It's been a rough two months for Toshiba and the HD DVD
Promotional Group, and the dark clouds show no signs of clearing. Gartner Inc.
is already calling
Blu-ray the winner in the high-definition disc arena and says that the
recent moves by Toshiba to cut
prices is nothing more than "useless
"Gartner believes that Toshiba's price-cutting may
prolong HD DVD's life a little, but the limited line-up of film titles will
inflict fatal damage on the format," said Gartner analyst Hiroyuki
Shimizu. "Gartner expects that, by the end of 2008, Blu-ray will be the
winning format in the consumer market, and the war will be over."
The news from Gartner isn't the only bit of bad news rolling
in for the HD DVD camp today, however. Woolworths may be a name that has long
since been forgotten in the United States, but the retail chain still lives on
in Europe and other regions around the world. The retailer recently announced
that its 820 stores will
no longer carry HD DVD titles and it instead will put its full support
The company states that the reason for the change of heart
was due to Blu-ray's stellar performance over the holiday season -- according
to Woolworths, Blu-ray titles held a commanding ten-to-one sales lead over HD
"Sales figures clearly show that the market is moving
towards one format of high definition DVD, Woolworths' Steven McGunigel. “The
main reason is the success of Sony's PlayStation 3 machine. Because it plays
Blu-Ray discs, there are over ¾ million homes in the UK that can view the new
high definition format. Switching to Blu-Ray only will provide one clear offer
to customers in the format they want to watch high definition movies in."
Woolworths' stores will become Blu-ray exclusive in March.
HD DVD titles will continue to be sold from Woolworth's online site, but
brick-and-mortar shelf space will be reserved for Blu-ray.
Blu-ray's momentum in the high-definition DVD format war picked
up steam when Warner Bros. announced that it would back Blu-ray and cease
further HD DVD releases beginning mid-year. Similar announcements were made
Line Cinema and HBO
Ken Graffeo, executive VP for Universal Studios and
co-president of the HD DVD Promotional Group, tried
to put a pleasant spin on the recent turn of events and notes that
Toshiba's HD DVD players are also perfect for upconverting
quote: Another thing I don't quite get is concern about regional locked titles. I mean I'm not someone who travels a lot, but I think even if I did, I wouldn't be effected by this. As such, I really find it hard to believe that someone can say that HD-DVD is significantly better.
quote: Either way I hope the prices of blu-ray burners come down and price, i'd like to be able to start storing stuff on these bad boys.
quote: I guess this site really hates it when Apple gives it a reality check.
quote: Right now BR and HD blanks are not worth the cost... we won't even get into the cost of the burners :(
quote: Actually the cost of the burners is not too bad, the LG drives at under $300 are a good deal and can even read HD-DVD.
quote: I was unable to find an HD DVD burner for desktops in my brief 10 minute search.
quote: watch it on a computer usually with a Region Free hack. Region coding is just an annoyance for consumers who can't get it locally and need to buy it online and have it shipped in. Region coding can kind of screw you there. There's many BBC series I would like to get here in the states but alas its region 2 only. Forcing me to either copy the disks and modify the region or use a region free hack on my computer to play them. That's my beef with region coding.
quote: Good luck with that. Even DVD burners took a long time to come down in price, not to mention the blank media. Right now BR and HD blanks are not worth the cost... we won't even get into the cost of the burners :(
quote: And all the BS about Blu ray having region coding and HDDVD not having is BS, since most Blu ray dont even use it
quote: Doesn't matter. Bluray is the superior format and the HD DVDistas needs to quit nit picking Bluray. Region coding has been a part of DVD for years. We're all used to it. Let's move on.
quote: I believe region coding is to allow for selling a blu-ray disk in, say, England, for $30, and then selling that same disk in, say, Pakistan for $3. Region coding prevents English users from using the Pakistani disk.
quote: It's mostly in the US that people are mainly concerned by price.
quote: Yeah, and I didn't realize Woolworths was such an international retail giant that it would have such an influence on anything.
quote: BTW, isn't the porn industy still stuck with HD-DVD since Sony won't license their BR technology to them? That would at least keep HD-DVD in existance.
quote: Woolworth is a large retailer out of the US, and Adult films are being produced on BD. That restriction ended months ago. It doesn't cost filmmakers any more to do this.
quote: Woolworth is a large retailer out of the US,
quote: Woolworth does not exist anymore in the United States.
quote: Woolworth is a large retailer out of the US
quote: Whoop whoop, however, IPTV // On-demand // Downloadable movies will probably kill off Blu-ray.
quote: Yes. Head over to the blu-ray.com forum and all you see are issues with the current players. Everyone is wanting firmware updates because there player doesnt support the features and the are having hardware issues. Sucks to be the masses that dont have an ethernet port. No firmware updates for you
quote: People bash the PS3 because it is over-hyped.
quote: It was supposed to have the best games, best graphics, etc.
quote: The response from PS3 owners is just wait and see how good it will be. Why purchase one just to wait.
quote: Like you said Once the great games come out I may pick it up, but I dont see any reason to buy one just to wait and see.
quote: There are plenty of reasons to pick one up, for 2008 is has at least 30 exclusive gaming titles coming out.
quote: Can anyone actually tell the difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. If you were to plug in the same movie to the same TVs with each HD-DVD and Blu-Ray would anyone be able to tell the difference?
quote: When Walmart says it's supporting Blu-Ray only, then it's over.
quote: using their video game devision to help them win the format war was a stroke of genius,
quote: In the end it equates to using children's gaming interests to create a large Blu-Ray install base
quote: I'm starting to wonder if they were trying to build a game system with Blu-Ray ability or a Blu-Ray player with gaming ability.
quote: I dont see how the PS3 was targetted towards kids considering its original $600 price tag.
quote: "Gartner believes that Toshiba's price-cutting may prolong HD DVD's life a little, but the limited line-up of film titles will inflict fatal damage on the format," said Gartner analyst Hiroyuki Shimizu. "Gartner expects that, by the end of 2008, Blu-ray will be the winning format in the consumer market, and the war will be over."
quote: The "Blu-ray Disc Founder" was founded in May 2002 by nine leading electronic companies: Matsushita, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung, and Sony. Spearheaded by NP Infotech, on February 19th 2002 the companies announced  that they were the "Founders" of the Blu-ray Disc and later changed their name to the "Blu-ray Disc Association" on May 18, 2004 to allow more companies to join their development. Some examples of companies that signed in include Apple, TDK, Dell, Hewlett Packard, The Walt Disney Company, Warner Bros. and Universal Music Group. As of December 2007, there are more than 250 members and supporters of the Association.
quote: I guess you do not realize that Blu-Ray is not just Sony?