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Logitech on the up amidst Microsoft bid talk

In the world of computer users, there are two types of mouse and keyboard users – those who prefer Microsoft and those who prefer Logitech. Oddly enough, Microsoft itself may prefer Logitech as stock traders speculated that the software giant would launch a takeover bid for the Swiss-based peripherals maker.

Shares of Logitech surged up to 12 percent based on the trader talk, despite comments from Logitech’s Daniel Borel expressing no desire to sell his stake in the company.

"I am a co-founder of Logitech. Would you be willing to sell your child?" Borel told Reuters in an interview. "I have no reason to sell. But I will not be the one to decide. I own only some 6 percent so I will neither enable nor prevent a sale of Logitech."

Buzz circulated in the market that Microsoft prepared a takeover bid of 48 francs per share for Logitech. "Rumours are rumours. I can't make any specific comment on them," Borel added.

Not everyone believes that the Logitech shares jump is a result of an impending takeover. "Today's share price rise is probably more related to a rebound in the market than any rumours," said an analyst at bank Vontobel.

Furthermore, even if Microsoft were interested in buying Logitech, the company would first need to overcome antitrust regulatory issues.

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RE: Monopoly much?
By Magnus Dredd on 1/11/2008 5:07:10 PM , Rating: -1
Microsoft's mice suck.

The spring in the wheel is so weak that I cannot scroll without clicking the middle mouse button. This is completely unacceptable for a mouse, especially one that's used for gaming.

I hope to God that Microsoft does not plan on taking over Logitech.

If, sadly they do, I hope they trash their own crap and just use the much better Logitech gear and slap on a M$ label. Otherwise I'll have to find another mouse manufacturer to buy all of my mice from. Or maybe I'll just buy 10 or so Logitech mice and hoard them.

RE: Monopoly much?
By xti on 1/11/2008 5:13:54 PM , Rating: 5
The spring in the wheel is so weak that I cannot scroll without clicking the middle mouse button.

Holy fat fingers batman!

RE: Monopoly much?
By Brockway on 1/12/2008 12:55:56 AM , Rating: 2
I have this problem too with their bluetooth laser intellimouse. You can accidently click it while scrolling, and you can accidently scroll while clicking. Its annoying as heck, especially since its a $70 mouse. I forget the designation, but its the grey steel one.

RE: Monopoly much?
By StevoLincolnite on 1/12/2008 2:05:27 PM , Rating: 2
And I'm still using a 5-Din Pin keyboard without that blasted Windows Key!
Seriously, Play a game and when you are button mashing trying to survive in an fps and you hit it on accident... Well I don't know about anyone else but all hell breaks loose on my end.

RE: Monopoly much?
By Clauzii on 1/14/2008 6:10:35 AM , Rating: 2
If on XP, You'll need this:

To disable use of the WIN-key in XP, open the registry and navigate to:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEM\CurrentControlSetContro l\
Keyboard Layout].

Find the value 'Scancode Map'. Set its value to:

"00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 5B E0 00 00 5C E0 00 00 00 00"

RE: Monopoly much?
By dayanth on 1/14/2008 7:02:35 AM , Rating: 2
Well, INSTEAD of destroying your registry with editing it by hand, you can just go into your Control Panel->Keyboard->Key Settings Tab.

Then edit what the keys will or won't do on your Win-Key featured keyboard. :-)

RE: Monopoly much?
By spudboy23 on 1/14/2008 8:03:20 PM , Rating: 2
um, i edit the registry at least once a week on various machines and i have yet to "destroy" any of them. idk what is with the fear-mongering that people do about stuff like this. many KB articles on MS support site specifically tell you to edit the registry for resolution of various problems.

RE: Monopoly much?
By Vanilla Thunder on 1/14/2008 11:56:37 AM , Rating: 2
Or you can pickup a Logitech G11/15 which has a "gaming mode" switch that disables the Windows button on your board.


RE: Monopoly much?
By tastyratz on 1/15/08, Rating: 0
RE: Monopoly much?
By StevoLincolnite on 1/22/2008 5:31:04 AM , Rating: 4
I Apologies if no one is exactly perfect like you're self, and never make mistakes. - Maybe you might grow out of that ignorance one day.

RE: Monopoly much?
By Motley on 1/11/2008 5:16:29 PM , Rating: 3
I've never had a problem with the microsoft mice at all. Of course, they make like 12 different versions of the mouse, so it's quite possible that the one you have has a weaker middle button. But that is why they make 12 different ones. I'd guess buying a mouse with a more sensitive middle button when you obviously have dexterity problems would be a user error.

RE: Monopoly much?
By Chernobyl68 on 1/11/2008 5:58:15 PM , Rating: 2
I've used a Logitech trackman trackball-mouse for years, I hope if this deal goes though that something similiar is still offered.

RE: Monopoly much?
By glennpratt on 1/12/2008 11:32:35 AM , Rating: 2
I know what he's talking about and it's not dexterity problems, there are several mice I've used where it takes about equal force to click the middle mouse button as it does to scroll down and you will frequently do the opposite of what you intended.

Many Logitech mice have strong middle button resistance and almost no scroll resistance, so you will frequently scroll middle while clicking middle.

Yes you can train yourself not to, but really, should you have to?

RE: Monopoly much?
By Magnus Dredd on 1/14/2008 9:34:34 AM , Rating: 2
First off, the reason I buy the Logitech mice is because I used the cheapo versions in computer labs and other people's houses before I ever bought one. Even the cheap Logictech mice work well. The (I didn't purchase it) Dell OEM mouse that I use at work is a Logitech.

The reason that I disdain Microsoft mice is drawn from the same places. I have used other people's, and lab mice. Perhaps it's not all of them, however, almost all of the Microsoft mice I've touched has had ridiculously weak springs. Weak to the point that when doing IT work for people using them, I've noticed lots of inadvertent middle clicks by their owners.

Simply notice the number of replies above by people who know what I'm talking about.

So, given that I've never had this issue with ANY other brand of mouse, why the hell would I buy a Microsoft mouse, especially a more expensive one than the standard $10 to $15 Logitech one I normally buy?

Let's see... This mouse sucks, so I should try out the other mice this company offers until I find one they make that has a decent spring.... Screw that, I'll buy from a company that doesn't make ANY crappy mice.

RE: Monopoly much?
By PandaBear on 1/11/2008 9:21:33 PM , Rating: 3
On the contrary I like MS mouse better than Logitech. I think it is really a personal preference rather than one is crap the other is gold.

RE: Monopoly much?
By The Sword 88 on 1/13/2008 12:25:51 AM , Rating: 2
I agree I love my Logitech MX518 but MS makes some nice mice as well, as for keyboards, I dont care that much.

I do think both of them staying separate is best for the consumer though

RE: Monopoly much?
By djtodd on 1/14/2008 8:27:56 AM , Rating: 2
QFT. I'm on my second mx518 now and it's hands down the best mouse I've ever used.

RE: Monopoly much?
By Magnus Dredd on 1/14/2008 10:00:29 AM , Rating: 2
Actually My current favorite keyboard is an OEM IBM model. This one: I buy my keyboards for $1 or $2 each at salvage yards, generally new or in great condition. My last purchase was 5 of these (new in boxes) for $10. Previously I mostly bought the beige PS2 Dell Quiet touch keyboards.

The current Dell keyboards with the volume knob are ok, but the IBM's have a nicer feel to the keys, and they're also more flat in design.

Interestingly, for USB keyboards I like the Apple keyboards that used to come with the G4 Macs. This one: The Apple key is easily mapped as a Windows key. I don't like the last keyboard Apple made, and I really, really hate Apple's new keyboards.

RE: Monopoly much?
By winterspan on 1/12/08, Rating: -1
"When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." -- Sony BMG attorney Jennifer Pariser
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