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Users outraged last October when they discovered Comcast messing with their P2P

The FCC announced a formal investigation into Comcast’s controversial practice of “data discrimination” in response to a flood of complaints from consumers and Internet groups.

Last October, users discovered that Comcast employed a novel implementation of traffic shaping against its subscribers, which impersonated subscribers' machines in order to trick their P2P software into disconnecting. While this form of traffic shaping met Comcast’s objectives – to control the massive bandwidth sink that results from illegal P2P use – it also affected legitimate P2P users, as well as unrelated services, like the network features in Lotus Notes.

User suspicion eventually culminated into an investigation by the Associated Press, of which the results were released last October. Shortly afterwards, testing at the Electronic Frontier Foundation reached a similar conclusion, and as a result released the “Test Your ISP” project – allowing users to see for themselves whether or not their ISPs implemented similar practices.

At the heart of the matter is whether or not Comcast’s “data discrimination” is permissible under the FCC’s guidelines of “reasonable network management,” and whether or not the practice is a violation of the current rules on network neutrality and service availability. Speaking Tuesday at CES in Vegas, FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told consumers that the FCC will “investigate” the matter in order “make sure that no consumer is … blocked.”

“The question is going to arise: Are they reasonable network practices?” said Martin. “When they have reasonable network practices, they should disclose those and make those public.”

Comcast’s PR team was caught off-guard by the initial turn of events in October, as even after the practice was outed by the Associated Press, Comcast continued to deny any kind of manipulation. However, facing the wrath of an increasingly angry Internet mob, Comcast’s tune quickly changed to a coy comparison of its actions with that of a busy signal, like one hears over landline telephones.

Complicating an already messy situation, a California man filed a class-action lawsuit against Comcast last November. In it, plaintiff Jon Hart accused Comcast of breach of contract, as well as violating the Covenant of Good Faith and Fair Dealing, the Business and Professions Code, and the Legal Remedies act by throttling bandwidth and “transmitting unauthorized hidden messages” to subscribers’ offending software.

“Comcast plans to work with the Commission in its desire to bring more transparency for consumers,” said Comcast executive VP David L. Cohen. “We do disclose in our terms of use our right to manage our network for the benefit of all customers.”

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Wait a minute...
By noirsoft on 1/9/2008 12:37:27 AM , Rating: -1
it also affected legitimate P2P users

There are legitimate P2P users?

RE: Wait a minute...
By rninneman on 1/9/2008 12:58:17 AM , Rating: 4
I download new Linux distros with BitTorrent all the time.

RE: Wait a minute...
By tdktank59 on 1/9/2008 2:21:32 AM , Rating: 2
I do as well. I also get some of my podcasts that was as well as free movies note the free not the copyrighted "free" movies that most p2p traffic takes...

RE: Wait a minute...
By FredEx on 1/9/2008 3:49:40 AM , Rating: 2
As well as all that has been said here in this portion of the comments, I also have purchased software and gotten a torrent download link to get it right away and gotten upgrades via torrent. I have a friend who is a programmer out of his home and the best way for him cost wise to spread his programs and upgrades to his customers many sites has been to use P2P.

RE: Wait a minute...
By TomCorelis on 1/9/2008 4:33:24 AM , Rating: 2
Ever played World of Warcraft?

RE: Wait a minute...
By Gholam on 1/9/2008 7:47:46 AM , Rating: 4
9 million World of Warcraft players, for starters.

RE: Wait a minute...
By metaltoiletry on 1/9/2008 9:29:15 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, you can download most new game patches (500mb sizes at times) way faster using torrents.

I'm just happy that I don't use Comcast

RE: Wait a minute...
By Staples on 1/9/2008 9:58:52 AM , Rating: 1
I'd love to see how much P2P traffic is for legitimate use. I'd imagine that Linux distros, podcasts and uncopyrighted work accounts for less than 5%, probably half of that at best. I love how people who have interest in getting illegal stuff off torrents make ridiculous arguments trying to make it sound like only a small percentage of BT is used for illegal activity. These arguments are almost as bad as "why don't they take down google, I mean it is a search engine just like the pirate bay."

RE: Wait a minute...
By jeff834 on 1/9/2008 2:58:44 PM , Rating: 2
It's a moot point. It doesn't matter how much is for legitimate use and how much is illegal. As long as some is legitimate they shouldn't block it until they can come up with a way to just block the illegal use.

The real problem with the whole ISP thing is lack of competition. Prices for dialup dropped quickly when there were dozens to choose from. We only have one cable provider per area and no other good ISP options so far. Guaranteed if you had 2 providers, same speeds, same reliability, same price, one blocks BT and the other doesn't the unblocked one would get more business from today's users. I personally am drooling over FIOS which is available in my town but has not reached my house yet. $50 a month for 20Mbps/5Mbps with no blocks.

RE: Wait a minute...
By The0ne on 1/9/2008 11:41:54 PM , Rating: 2
I agree but but some people are using it legally. You can't blame those who are using it properly for those millions *points fingers* that aren't. If you take that practice to real world situations you have chaos out in the streets.

I'm hoping Comcast gets a huge fine for what they are doing. I'm hoping FCC looks into other companies like Cox and Time Warner as well. Cox I know for sure they do as I have specifically been told and limited on how much I can do per month.

All this is really happening because there are NO competition. There are absolutely NO competition for Time Warner in my large San Diego area. Cox is more to the west side. You have no choice but to pay and live with the service you're getting. Either that or be without TV, phone, internet.

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