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Dell pulls specifications and photos of upcoming Crystal display from its site

Dell is well known for a few things, one is as being one of the largest computer and accessory makers on the planet. The other thing Dell is widely known for is atrocious embargo leaks.

HotHardware snagged specs and images from the Dell Crystal website before the page and press release were pulled from the Dell site. That would likely mean some wayward Dell PR schlep posted the information on the display ahead of its expected release at CES 2008 starting next week.

The specifications show that the very attractive display is a 22-inch screen with 1680x1050 resolution. The display boasts TrueColor Technology with a 98% color gamut and a 2ms typical gray to gray response time.

Dell claims a 2000:1 contrast ratio and the display has several connectivity options with DVI, HDMI, subwoofer to and a USB connector. A DisplayPort connector such as the one Dell put on its recently announced 30-inch 3008 WFP display is lacking from the Crystal display. A two megapixel webcam with microphone is built-in as well.

The displays surround is made from 4mm thick tempered glass and it holds a quartet of speakers. When looked at from the front, the Dell Crystal display appears to be made entirely of glass. The effect isn’t as attractive when you see the display from the side and can tell it’s merely a standard display with a glass surround holding the speakers. The price is a whopping $1,199 and availability is unknown at this time.

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By Brandon Hill on 1/3/2008 2:23:54 PM , Rating: 5
I may be in the minority here, but I think it looks hideous. The clear surrounds look totally out of place and tacky.

All I care about is the display; the surrounds are just superfluous. Sure, they hold the speakers, but I can't remember when the last time that I used an LCD monitor's built-in speakers.

RE: Ack!
By TomZ on 1/3/2008 2:30:55 PM , Rating: 2
It's interesting and unique, quite a departure from the usual boring LCD displays. I think it will probably sell well once the price comes down a bit.

RE: Ack!
By spluurfg on 1/4/2008 8:30:30 AM , Rating: 2
It does look nice, but a high end display in that price range will cater to: (a) those who are advanced users and (b) those who have more money than they know what to do with... but how many people in category (a) ever use their display speakers?

In my opinion, the price is justified only if the color accuracy is very high, where it would be useful to those who require precise color calibration (ie video/photo editors, content creation, etc. This seems to be something they are promoting, but "98% color gamut" and "TrueColor Technology" is pretty cryptic to me.

RE: Ack!
By BladeVenom on 1/3/2008 2:33:12 PM , Rating: 5
Stick a shiny apple on it, and people will love it.

RE: Ack!
By Polynikes on 1/3/2008 3:12:28 PM , Rating: 5
They certainly would.

RE: Ack!
By ChiefNuts on 1/3/2008 3:34:34 PM , Rating: 2
Is it just me, or is this the biggest truth of the last 3+ years?? If Dell were to merge with apple, and the name changed from Dell to Apple, all the crap systems they sell at Walmart & staples would suddenly become the hottest items this year..

RE: Ack!
By amanojaku on 1/4/2008 3:36:46 PM , Rating: 2
Not true. The Apple TV isn't doing so hot.

And this Dell display is FUGLY. No logo could save it!

RE: Ack!
By melgross on 1/3/2008 4:25:50 PM , Rating: 1
Apple would integrate the components better from all sides.

RE: Ack!
By Alexvrb on 1/3/2008 11:53:06 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah they are especially good at integrating extra "features" and then silencing/burying the brief outcry.

With Apple, all is forgotten, all is forgiven.

RE: Ack!
By Cappadocious on 1/3/2008 8:36:06 PM , Rating: 3
Stick a shiny apple on it, and people will love it.

I was thinking that it was remarkably Apple-esque also.

RE: Ack!
By robinthakur on 1/4/08, Rating: 0
RE: Ack!
By mmcdonalataocdotgov on 1/4/2008 7:49:22 AM , Rating: 2
I was thinking more of a 1967 vision of the future, but 1970's works for me. Aren't the 70's supposed to be hep now (according to Madison Avenue)?

RE: Ack!
By onwisconsin on 1/4/2008 9:50:49 AM , Rating: 3
Would it require a 2 year contract with at&t?

RE: Ack!
By Comdrpopnfresh on 1/3/2008 2:36:06 PM , Rating: 2
Yeh- I agree- put the control tabs on the panel, lose the surrounding glass, and if the sound is so meaningful, provide bar speakers of high quality that sit on both sides of the monitor and perhaps a center-channel for hanging underneath.

It'd be smart, because of the hdmi carrying digital sound- are those speakers the result of the hdmi's digital sound, or is it converted to analog?

RE: Ack!
By Hare on 1/3/2008 2:49:19 PM , Rating: 3
Your ears can't decipher a stream of ones and zeros so yes it's analogue. Speakers can't really be digital :)

RE: Ack!
By kamel5547 on 1/3/2008 3:24:20 PM , Rating: 2
Your ears can't really decipher an analog signal either. Actual sound waves consist of continuous variations in air pressure. The signal delivered to the speakers could be analog or digital.

RE: Ack!
By EidolWays on 1/3/2008 6:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
That actually depends on what definition of "digital" you are using.

There are two relevant definitions of digital, here.

1. Digital means discrete units. When an analog signal is digitized, it goes through a process called "quantization", which you can read about at the included Wikipedia link. ("Quantization (sound processing)" is the relevant article.)

Analog signals take on an infinite range of values. To use classroom math, this means they can use an infinite number of decimal places. Storing infinitely detailed values on your favorite CD isn't feasible, however, so in the digital world, you've only got so many decimal places to work with. Hence, your analog signal is "rounded" to get the digital values that are stored. This is one meaning of the word "digital."

2. Represented as 0's and 1's. Once your signal is quantized as detailed above, it can then be represented as 0's and 1's.


Here's where the difference gets tricky. If we have a 16-bit sound file, then we can represent 65,535 (2^16-1) discrete values. But each of these values is stored as 16 0's and 1's. Your typical CD is encoded at 44.1 kHz. This means there are 44,100*16 0's and 1's per second. But playing back all those 0's and 1's won't sound like music to you. It'll sound like gibberish because music isn't in terms of "on" and "off" like 0's and 1's. That's where we need an Analog to Digital Converter.

An Analog to Digital Converter (ADC) takes a stream of bits and turns it into the decimal values that actually corresponds to a meaningful sound. As stated, binary will sound like gibberish because your favorite record isn't played in terms of "on" and "off". Hence, those 16-bit values have to be converted back to the wider-ranged decimal numbers. When fed through an amp to your speakers, it's the values that come out of the ADC that sound like music.

Hence, the signal that is fed to your speakers is not digital in the sense that it is 0's and 1's. But once you've encoded something in 0's and 1's, you can never get back the full, infinite variability of analog. So in that sense, the sound delivered to your speakers is digital in that it still consists of discrete values (which, incidentally, means it's not as good as the original studio source, which had the infinite detail of analog).

RE: Ack!
By roadrun777 on 1/3/2008 9:24:47 PM , Rating: 1
I actually prefer the sound of 1's and 0's, so I don't think you speak for all of us when you say it would sound like gibberish.
I think it sounds quite nice actually.

RE: Ack!
By rcc on 1/4/2008 1:24:19 PM , Rating: 2
You have your As and Ds bassackwards.

you would use an ADC to record sound in a digital format. A DAC is used to restore it to an analog signal that you can listen to.

RE: Ack!
By EidolWays on 1/4/2008 5:41:30 PM , Rating: 2
You are correct. Thanks for the correction!

RE: Ack!
By FITCamaro on 1/3/2008 3:29:42 PM , Rating: 2
Well the speakers might be better than average though for an LCD monitor since they look a little bigger.

But yeah, $1200 for a 22" display? I think not.

RE: Ack!
By Master Kenobi on 1/3/2008 3:37:32 PM , Rating: 2
I can get 42" TV's for that price and use them as my monitor.

RE: Ack!
By theapparition on 1/3/2008 10:27:24 PM , Rating: 2
Point taken, and I understand where your coming from but 1080p on a 42" display looks like crap for most close computer work. There's just no way you can stretch out 1920x1080 over that size and still have the text look crisp. Even my wife's 17" laptop has 1920x1200 resolution.
I'd much prefer exactly what I have, the 30" 3007WFP display with 2x the resolution of 1080p sets.

RE: Ack!
By Master Kenobi on 1/4/2008 8:25:50 AM , Rating: 2
Well if you don't sit so close it isn't too bad. Sitting that close on a screen that big would likely give you a headache anyways.

RE: Ack!
By fleshconsumed on 1/3/2008 3:47:11 PM , Rating: 2
I disagree on one part. I think it looks pretty, pretty as in mac-pretty. However, like mac, practically wise it's a nightmare. I use dual monitors so I want monitors with a thin bezel. The glass part on this monitor means I can't use it, the tiny speakers are bound to be horrible and will be useless for anything but windows sounds, the glass bezel will get dirty in no time and in general it takes too much space, so you better have enough room on the table to accommodate it. Given humongous price tag for a 22" monitor I can't see too many people (at least the ones with a common sense) buying it.

RE: Ack!
By melgross on 1/3/2008 4:30:17 PM , Rating: 1
Apparently, you've never used one. Check out their monitors yourself.

RE: Ack!
By theapparition on 1/3/2008 3:59:13 PM , Rating: 2
Not a big fan of the looks myself, and the resolution, while typical of a 22", is unacceptable for a display of that price.

Also, they're not the first to do something similar.
While not as dramatic, the westinghouse still has the same effect with the glass at the bottom.

RE: Ack!
By TimTheEnchanter25 on 1/3/2008 4:14:32 PM , Rating: 3
I think it would be ok if they lost the useless speakers and made the glass smaller.

It seems kind of stupid to have 22" monitor that takes up as much room (and costs the same) as a 27" monitor. I would rather just get a 27" monitor.

RE: Ack!
By 80Morphine on 1/4/2008 12:23:33 PM , Rating: 2
It appears to me they are trying to make a display with mass appeal. Gamers want the 2ms response time. Professionals want the color accuracy. Shallow people want glass on anything.

The specs look identical (minus the color) to the Samsung 226bw which looks horrid in person. Although that panel is below 300 bucks. I guess thats the purpose for the glass, make it stand out from the competition.

2ms response time is still nothing but blur for gaming. Viva la CRT.

RE: Ack!
By OddTSi on 1/3/2008 7:33:17 PM , Rating: 2
I completely agree. I don't want superfluous crap on my monitor, I just want the monitor. Give it as thin a bezel as possible, a panel that's flush with the bezel, and a small but sturdy stand and call it a day. Basically if you were to take a saw to the extra glass on the top picture for this article, that would be a good looking monitor.

I hate how monitors have an inch-wide bezel all around the screen and they make it black in an attempt to hide it. Just make it as small as possible and you won't need to try to hide it.

RE: Ack!
By roadrun777 on 1/3/2008 9:41:01 PM , Rating: 1
I want a monitor that has a bezel of flesh (or at least simulated flesh). Soft to the touch and warm and squishy!
It would give an organic feel to something so cold and techno looking. Like the leg lamp from the Christmas Story, I always loved that lamp! A fleshy looking bezel would go good right next to that lamp!

RE: Ack!
By theapparition on 1/3/2008 10:29:19 PM , Rating: 2
That's either a really funny or really disturbing post. I haven't decided which yet.
But in the mean time..+1

RE: Ack!
By AnnihilatorX on 1/6/2008 8:20:32 AM , Rating: 2
If the whole panel is OLED, i.e. transparent and incorporated then it'd be much better

Of course that would not be possible currently with OLED technology yet

True Colour - don't eat that Elmer
By rgsaunders on 1/3/2008 2:33:00 PM , Rating: 4
Judging by the specifications in the linked PDF file, this would appear to be a 6 bit TN panel that they are dressing up and putting a good backlight on. You judge whether or not you want to pay an extra $900 for some glass trim and shoddy speakers, along with a non adjustable stand. Don't know about you, but somehow or another this doesn't strike me as a good value.

RE: True Colour - don't eat that Elmer
By MonkeyPaw on 1/3/2008 6:00:53 PM , Rating: 2
The people who will buy this have no idea what you just said.

By roadrun777 on 1/3/2008 9:28:36 PM , Rating: 1
I know what he said, and I know what a TN panel is. It's like a hog pretending to be a donkey with a dress and makeup. Or like a squirrel pretending to be a ravenous elephant trying to eat a squirrel or some nonsense thing like that!
I am just saying! I know a nut from a pecan!
I would rather have a SPVA panel or SIPS panel with OLED.

Different images..
By CLeW on 1/3/2008 2:39:25 PM , Rating: 5
Are there 2 different models or is one just an old image? The 2 images shown have different looks, the black bezel is larger on one and has the webcam inside it. On the other, the webcam is above the bezel and in the glass.

RE: Different images..
By mdogs444 on 1/3/2008 2:41:42 PM , Rating: 2
Yup - and the speakers are different colors in them - one is black, the other is silver. (unless im color blind? ha)

Poor design
By The0ne on 1/3/2008 7:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
It's a poor design. Unless your funishings are similar I don't think it'll sell much.

RE: Poor design
By roadrun777 on 1/3/2008 9:36:41 PM , Rating: 1
It's a poor design. Unless your furnishings are similar I don't think it'll sell much.

98% of all products on the market in the last 5 years have been mostly junk. It's like a lotto for consumers anymore. You may or may not get something that does whats advertised, who knows, you have to buy it to find out. Otherwise you have have to find obscure websites that demand you become an expert in the technologies to even ask a question about said product.
I have always wanted an entire house made of glass, and this would be really cool in it. Privacy glass would have been even better, you could have it look like a solid color then it becomes clear as soon as you drop the current through it. That would be stylish.

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Looks like a Sony
By Pneumothorax on 1/3/2008 10:45:19 PM , Rating: 2
Looks very similar to Sony's XBR series. WTH is Dell thinking developing this? Shouldn't they be putting money into things like their crappy customer service and new products that will actually sell in large numbers? (I'm a poor dell stockholder BTW)

By valkator on 1/3/2008 10:57:53 PM , Rating: 2
You know, this makes me want to buy a piece of glass and glue it to my 24" Dell right now! HA!

Version 2.0
By Visual on 1/4/2008 4:49:17 AM , Rating: 2
Ok, I am waiting for the next version then... they need to get rid of the black bezels if they want the glass around to look any good, and also, seriously, who would buy a less-than-full-hd monitor in this day and age?

This product hints of a nice future when the whole monitor can be fully transparent when turned off... but until then, it is just useless wasted space around the monitor.

This explains it all
By crystal clear on 1/4/2008 10:23:18 AM , Rating: 2
Those complaining about high prices should read this-

TAIPEI, Dec 28 (Reuters) - Taiwan's AU Optronics (2409.TW: Quote, Profile, Research) (AUO.N: Quote, Profile, Research), the world's No.3 LCD maker, said on Friday there could be a global supply shortage of LCDs next year, amid booming demand for LCD televisions.

"Supply is seen to grow by 22 to 25 percent, but demand is seen growing by 28 to 30 percent," an AU official, who declined to be identified, said on the sidelines of a news conference, referring to LCD panels.

The official also said the company's first-quarter sales for next year should beat the first quarter of previous years.

AU, which supplies PC-use LCD panels to Dell Inc (DELL.O: Quote, Profile, Research) and Hewlett-Packard Co (HPQ.N: Quote, Profile, Research), had said it plans to build a next-generation LCD plant to meet demand for bigger flat TVs, and will decide what technology it will use to make panels by the end of the year.

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