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The price tag will be Rs 22,900 (about $370 USD)

Apple originally introduced the iPhone 5C alongside the high-end 5S to provide a slightly broader price range. However, at just a $100 USD difference, the 5C isn't the budget phone we all thought it would be. 
That's why Apple is re-launching the iPhone 4 in India. According to India Times, Apple's iPhone sales in the country have dropped significantly because the iPhone 5S and iPhone 5C are both much too expensive next to other options, such as Android and Windows Phone. 
However, even the iPhone 4 doesn't seem to be re-launching at a super budget price. The India Times says the price tag will be Rs 22,900 (about $370 USD). This isn't terribly affordable, considering the phone shipped in 2010 for Rs 26,000, and that was four [smartphone] generations ago. 

[SOURCE: technorati]

The iPhone 4 re-launch in India will only offer 8GB models, and have specs consisting of a 1GHz single core CPU, a PowerVR SGX535 GPU, 512MB RAM, a 5MP rear-facing camera, a 1420mAh Li-Po battery, and a 3.5-inch 640 x 960 pixel IPS LCD screen.
These features are certainly outdated, and Indian consumers can purchase smartphones with better features for less money from Android and Windows Phone competitors. 
The iPhone 4 re-launch is a solution to the fact that the iPhone 5C, which was long touted as an "affordable" iPhone -- especially for markets like China and India where they don't have the subsidies that the U.S. does. 
But it remains to be seen whether the iPhone 4 will take off once again, either. 

Source: India Times

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By troysavary on 1/21/2014 2:55:17 PM , Rating: 3
Apple doesn't seem to understate depreciation due to obsolescence.

RE: Seriously?
By Motoman on 1/21/2014 3:19:00 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah...nothing at $360 is a "budget" phone.

This is a budget phone:

$80. And realistically, it'll do everything that 99% of all cell phone users in the world need to do.

RE: Seriously?
By Samus on 1/22/2014 1:06:15 AM , Rating: 2
This can't be right. The iPhone 4s 16GB is $299 brand new. After all, its 2+ years old.

What's next, Samsung re-releasing the Galaxy SII for $400 bucks?

RE: Seriously?
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/22/2014 9:17:55 AM , Rating: 2
Where exactly is it 299? Directly from Apple, the 8GB 4S is 450, unlocked.

RE: Seriously?
By Souka on 1/22/2014 3:32:22 PM , Rating: 2
I have an iPhone 4 actually... maybe I should sell it on :)

RE: Seriously?
By Samus on 1/26/2014 2:23:00 AM , Rating: 2
16gb models are $300 new on eBay for sprint. I know because I bought one for Xmas.

RE: Seriously?
By amanojaku on 1/21/2014 3:22:49 PM , Rating: 2
Because Apple is immune to factors that affect other companies. High prices, product defects, security holes, monopolistic practices, vague patents... Apple gets away with bloody murder. I was surprised it got sued by the DOJ for the ebook scandal; I'm still in shock that it lost. It's one of the few times Apple has been evaluate objectively.

RE: Seriously?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/21/2014 5:20:55 PM , Rating: 2
This is the same company who took the iPhone 5, wrapped it in a shi*tier case, and called it the "new" iPhone 5C. You know, the "budget" model that costs as much as an Android flagship.

RE: Seriously?
By ritualm on 1/21/2014 5:39:57 PM , Rating: 2
Apple and cheap are oxymorons.

RE: Seriously?
By rf40928 on 1/21/2014 6:11:20 PM , Rating: 2
Yes but many of you miss another relevant point... india what can a Samsung G4 do ? All Phones might as well be all the same price there.. I mean a smartphone is only as good as the network.. try using any modern elite smartphone on a 2g to 3g network at best... you can put an iphone 4 side by side to a Samsung G4 and it wont matter because youll be waiting on the network not the phone...

I have sprint in ohio ... the last state to be upgraded to 4g.. my same Galaxy is a piece of junk compared to my coworkers on a better network.. we have the same phone but smartphones are internet appliances.. without fast internet and apps the phones are very limited. His phone can do 10 videos by the time ive half loaded 1 video.. in india any phone will be fast your phone is on a network wont be perceived any differently when youre on 3gmat best or 2g in most areas

RE: Seriously?
By stm1185 on 1/21/2014 6:17:09 PM , Rating: 2
India doesn't have Wifi?

RE: Seriously?
By amanojaku on 1/21/2014 6:31:00 PM , Rating: 2
No, just GBs.

RE: Seriously?
By rf40928 on 1/21/2014 6:50:21 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe some at home but nowhere near usa levels.. not at every store amd coffee shop..we are way ahead..even China has one carrier that has 4g and thats limited..most areas are 2g and hear about the growing economy there yet the every day man has much less

RE: Seriously?
By ven1ger on 1/21/2014 7:20:10 PM , Rating: 2
If you were to compare China and India's cellular network there are similar in regards to how much coverage in service there is on the map.

China -

India -

Both of India's and China's major coverage is of course in the industrialized cities. Apple did release the 5C and the 5S to China but only releasing the 4 to India is a bit of a slap in the face to India. But, on the other hand, India's per capita income is about $1219 and China's is $3,912. China is #2 in GDP after US and India is #4 after Japan.

RE: Seriously?
By retrospooty on 1/22/2014 7:40:34 AM , Rating: 3
" india what can a Samsung G4 do ? All Phones might as well be all the same price there.. I mean a smartphone is only as good as the network.. "

Larger screen higher res, higher PPI, SD, removable battery, widgets and other customization options and many many other features. Wifi is everywhere and data matters less and less. In India the network speed is equal (and slow) on all counts, but that is NOT even close to the most important part of a phone. A smartphone can be way better than its network and still add value to the user.

RE: Seriously?
By Rukkian on 1/22/2014 10:03:23 AM , Rating: 2
There are many, many things I do all the time on my phone that do not need a high speed connection. If you want to stream video, or high quality audio, or download some app, then yes, a faster connection helps. Once you have an app downloaded, unless it is doing some sort of streaming, you are fine with a crappy connection.

Put music, or videos on an sd card at home, then you have plenty of entertainment. Try doing that on an 8gb iphone.

Marketing failure
By quiksilvr on 1/21/2014 3:22:10 PM , Rating: 3
Sell it for $100. Get it in as many hands as possible for cheap so when the new versions come out people will be more inclined to get it.

Market betterer.

RE: Marketing failure
By Flunk on 1/21/2014 4:28:11 PM , Rating: 2
Funnily enough, that's still not cheap enough. The average selling price of a mobile phone in India is about $40.

RE: Marketing failure
By Solandri on 1/21/2014 5:50:55 PM , Rating: 2
You don't understand. Apple isn't trying to get the iPhone into as many people's hands as they can. They're trying to extract as much money from people as they can.

1) They establish themselves as a "luxury" brand, with a premium price to match. This generates desire among the population to own one.

2) Once that market is saturated, they release a slightly lower-tier model at a slightly lower price. Lower-tier enough not to piss off the buyers of their higher-tier model. Lower price enough to add significantly more market share.

3) Once that market is saturated, go to (2) and repeat.

By increasing your sales this way, you extract $600, $370, $200, and $100 from the various segments of the market. You make a lot more money than if you went from a $600 model to a $100 model for everyone else. Normally what holds back this kind of market segmentation is the cost of designing the intermediate models. But by releasing an old phone as your intermediate model, you eliminate that cost - you get something for nothing.

RE: Marketing failure
By evo slevven on 1/22/2014 1:28:11 AM , Rating: 3
I'd actually say they have it wrong. I think this what I hate about certain brands: they have no realistic clue on how people obtain their devices. Guess what while the majority of people buy Androids, they do buy cheap Androids as the breakdown goes in India's economic news. What Android does get is the ecosystem margin: the cost of apps and add-ons.

Apple is horribly stubborn but what happens when someone in these countries buy a phone and apps for it? They aren't even in the position to debate the "oh I can just re-buy all of my apps". I said "f**k that sh*t" when Blu-ray came out and there was a general expectation to re-buy everything in blue ray. People will probably continue to stick with Android because everything brought is android. If the general consumer base was significantly pissed about changing accessories from iPhone 4 to iPhone 5, how do you think countries like India and China feel about it? At least China cna say they can product knock-offs in enough quantities easily.

RE: Marketing failure
By EasyC on 1/22/2014 7:41:58 AM , Rating: 2
Yea, but Blu-ray actually offers something that DVD doesn't. An iPhone 4 offers nothing over the competition, except the anal raping in the wallet.

By mmp121 on 1/22/2014 1:31:43 AM , Rating: 2
The iPhone 4 re-launch in India will only offer 8GB models, and have specs consisting of a 1GHz single core CPU, a PowerVR SGX535 GPU, 512MB RAM, a 5MP rear-facing camera, a 1420mAh Li-Po battery, and a 3.5-inch 640 x 960 pixel IPS LCD screen.

RE: Li-Po?
By ritualm on 1/23/2014 9:41:17 AM , Rating: 2
LiPo is very common for a lot of cellphones.

RE: Li-Po?
By Souka on 1/23/2014 7:06:40 PM , Rating: 2
original with lithium-ion, new ones are LiPo....

still 1420 mAh regardless

Competing phones
By silverblue on 1/22/2014 2:14:51 AM , Rating: 2
I thought I'd at least attempt to bash on Apple here for their pricing, but when I went looking for prices I was quite surprised...

Nexus 5 White 16GB - 30K
Lumia 1020 Black - 44K (add 3K for Yellow/White)
Galaxy S4 (Exynos) 16GB White - 34K
L2 G2 16GB Black - 35.5K (add 6K for 32GB)
L2 G2 16GB White - 36K (add 2K (?) for 32GB)
Galaxy S3 16GB - 24K

And for the Apple-to-Apple comparisons...

iPhone 5s 16GB Space Grey - 50K (add 1.5K for Silver, 2K for Gold)
iPhone 5s 32GB - 62.5K
iPhone 4s 8GB White/Black - 28K

(all prices courtesy of

So, whilst prices are bad, they could be worse...

RE: Competing phones
By superflex on 1/22/2014 1:52:49 PM , Rating: 2
If you want to compare apples to apples, the iPhone 4 was released the same time as the HTC EVO 4G or SGS2.

Off Topic
By PorreKaj on 1/22/2014 1:51:45 AM , Rating: 3
Hasn't it been ages since we last saw a post from Tony Swash?

By ie5x on 1/24/2014 2:47:38 AM , Rating: 2
I hope they wither and die in these markets.

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