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Heavily redacted blog posts they are, at that

Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) high priced legal team liked a post by blog TmoNews enough that they're using it as "evidence" in court.  The post describes how Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KRX:005930) (KRX:005935) dropped Universal Search from the Galaxy S3, only to later add it back with a software update.
 
The author of the post -- David Beren -- expresses enthusiasm for Universal Search's return, which Apple is citing as key evidence that Android users saw the feature as a selling point.
 
Apple is seeking $2.191B USD for accused infringements on five of its patents, including U.S. Patent No. 6,847,959 (filed: Jan. 2000, granted: Jan. 2005) -- the patent it says Android's Universal Search infringes upon.
Apple Redactions

But apparently Apple can't handle what the public -- or at least some supporters of Google Inc.'s (GOOG) Android operating system -- think of it.  As noted by FOSS Patent, Apple has heavily redacted the comments, removing such gems as:

Who cares, we've had content searches on OS since way before the iPhone did it. Hate this lawsuit garbage.

...and...

The people that were deprived of such privileges due to crapple's non-sense

...and...

ismell another stupid lawsuit by crapple

Apple's lawyers claim they just don't want jurors to be "confused."  So to avoid confusion they will black out at least half of what a person wrote so that their comment can be taken entirely out of context.  The lawyers write:

[The exhibit] should be redacted to remove irrelevant, inaccurate, and prejudicial reader 'Comments' that were appended to the online article, including irrelevant and inaccurate references to this litigation and the 1846 case. 

Any conceivable probative value of reader Comments speculating about and disparaging this case (and there is none) would be substantially outweighed by the high risk of confusing, misleading, and tainting the jury.


The Samsung Galaxy S3

Samsung naturally isn't happy with the redactions, but it has to tread lightly as it performed redactions of its own to remove certain unfavorable commentary about its 2012 lawsuit loss to Apple.

Samsung Galaxy S4
Apple is afraid that buyers prefer larger Androids to its smaller devices.
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Apple used a survey of users to estimate the value of the five patents in the case.  It considers its slide-to-unlock patent the least valuable, and the universal search patent the second least valuable.
 
At this point the case is viewed largely as an effort by Apple to squeeze some sort of large per-device licensing fees from Samsung.  Recently published documents in the case reveal Apple is upset about its slowing growth and is considering adopting a "me-too" approach to Samsung, move to larger screen sizes and devices priced at under $300 USD unlocked -- the key segments its says are growing globally.

Sources: TmoNews, FOSS Patents



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Now getting....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/10/2014 6:39:50 PM , Rating: 5
Beyond ridiculous. Apple is a joke.




RE: Now getting....
By retrospooty on 4/10/2014 6:43:33 PM , Rating: 1
It got old years ago. Now its just sad.


RE: Now getting....
By Reclaimer77 on 4/10/2014 6:52:27 PM , Rating: 2
This would have been a great April Fool's article. Even now I can't believe they're serious...


RE: Now getting....
By DT_Reader on 4/10/2014 8:01:33 PM , Rating: 5
The company that made it's fortune and reputation by "innovating" - the iPod's scroll wheel, like the one on my VCR, or the Mac's icons and mouse, which they lifted from Xerox - has turned to litigating. The reason is clear: they are out of fresh ideas, and are pissed that Android is winning. The only thing that made the iPhone a market leader was new technology that enabled it to be physically manufactured, technology that Apple did not invent and did not patent. The things they did patent - a rectangle with rounded corners, whoooo; slide to unlock, like a deadbolt on a door - are so obvious that the public sees them as laughable. It's only our stupid patent laws that consider them "unique". "A deadbolt? Forget it. Oh, it's a deadbolt on a phone? Granted."


RE: Now getting....
By retrospooty on 4/10/2014 8:08:43 PM , Rating: 1
Don't forget how they copied notifications from Android, the flat look and feel from windows, the task switching UI from WebOS, in a myriad of other things from all 3.I don't even know what to call it anymore because using the word hypocracy seems like a huge understatement. they copied highly useful things, then sue over highly trivial things like slide to unlock and rounded edges and the look of icons. Meanwhile the competition has passed them and isn't looking back.


RE: Now getting....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/10/14, Rating: 0
RE: Now getting....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/10/2014 8:27:30 PM , Rating: 2
And Highest.Ranked... I didn't think anyone could be so delusional but those 2, wow.


RE: Now getting....
By retrospooty on 4/10/2014 8:35:18 PM , Rating: 4
Nah, I never noticed them. I usually pop in and read. If I comment its usually 1 or 2 then I move on. But yes, those types are everywhere. The anger level people get to when you don't paint Apple in a positive light is absolutely hilarious.


RE: Now getting....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/10/2014 9:47:22 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Now getting....
By retrospooty on 4/11/2014 8:29:17 AM , Rating: 2
Yup... Pick and choose a few particular words out of context and totally miss the entire point, then fly off the handle at that non-point... Sounds exactly like the same type of loser.

People are hilarious.


RE: Now getting....
By Camikazi on 4/11/2014 12:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, never been to the Verge but that TomGarrot guy made my head hurt going in circles like that, how does he do it without getting dizzy?


RE: Now getting....
By retrospooty on 4/11/2014 1:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... But I wouldn't say that guy is worse than the angry clowns here... Seems exactly the same to me.


RE: Now getting....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/11/2014 8:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
LOL! He is one of the worst.


RE: Now getting....
By shooty on 4/10/2014 7:13:51 PM , Rating: 5
Careful, Apple lawyers have already redacted parts of your post and used it as evidence of Samsung's guilt.

quote:
Beyond ridiculous. Apple is a joke.


became

quote:
yo i cul. Apple is a ok.


RE: Now getting....
By augiem on 4/10/2014 10:52:12 PM , Rating: 2
Quit buying their @#$@# products and the problem is solved.


RE: Now getting....
By MrPerez on 4/11/2014 2:44:52 PM , Rating: 3
The joke is on those that swear Apple created all things.


Crapple vs innovations
By marlenejo on 4/10/2014 8:22:50 PM , Rating: 1
Make me want to buy every Samsung products on the shelves only to sink more "crapple". Is that a new word ?




RE: Crapple vs innovations
By KoolAidMan1 on 4/10/2014 10:45:43 PM , Rating: 3
The funny part is that Samsung did this in court two years ago. How unusual, an innovative thing from them that's worth copying.


RE: Crapple vs innovations
By TSS on 4/11/2014 9:02:57 AM , Rating: 3
Both companies should have all their cases thrown out of court then fined $3 billion for wasting everybody's time.

At this point the truth or justice has got nothing to do with the outcomes anyway.


RE: Crapple vs innovations
By retrospooty on 4/11/2014 1:41:15 PM , Rating: 2
"Both companies should have all their cases thrown out of court then fined $3 billion for wasting everybody's time"

Truer words have never been spoken. If only it worked that way. I am really tired of both of these companies and the crap they spew.


RE: Crapple vs innovations
By Reclaimer77 on 4/11/2014 4:40:54 PM , Rating: 1
Both? Umm what has Samsung ever done other than defend itself?

Also Samsung has been the only one to stand up and challenge the value of FRAND vs Apple's BS design patents.

What does it say about our Government's view of technology when important and fundamental technology patents are viewed as being worth billions less than rounder corners and slide to unlock?


RE: Crapple vs innovations
By retrospooty on 4/11/2014 5:18:53 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, you are right. I take that back... For whatever reason I thought Samsung was suing the crap out of everyone else too (my bad, listening to the mindless iTools here at at/dt). So I just looked it up. It really isnt, especially considering it is by far the largest player in the smartphone arena. Apple is really at the center of it all. Some of these other graphs show Nokia as very active, but not Samsung.

https://www.google.com/search?q=smartphone+lawsuit...


New Judge Please
By audioheaven on 4/11/2014 6:58:57 AM , Rating: 2
Judge Lucy Koh has already displayed gross incompetence on previous lawsuits between these two. Why is she presiding again?




RE: New Judge Please
By Camikazi on 4/11/2014 12:55:54 PM , Rating: 2
Probably because Apple has enough money to make it happen.


Consistency
By Wazza1234 on 4/11/2014 6:40:18 AM , Rating: 2
Well, like the article says - if you want to criticise companies for redacting parts of evidence - both Apple and Samsung are guilty.

It's not surprising that their lawyers try to hide the bad bits and show the bits which prove their point - both sides do it.




The question becomes...
By EasyC on 4/11/2014 1:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
What is more of a joke, Apple or our patent and judicial systems.....




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