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ASUS M2A-VM HDMI

Biostar TA690G-AM2

ECS AMD690GM-M2

MSI MSI K9AGM2

Albatron KI690-AM2
AMD finally launches "RS690" after a multitude of delays, with HDMI support too

AMD will finally launch its long-awaited 690-series chipset-family tomorrow. Two variants will spearhead the release: the RS690-based mainstream AMD 690G with ATI Radeon X1250 graphics, and the RS690C-based value AMD 690V with ATI Radeon X1200 graphics.

AMD’s 690-family hit plenty of snags along its development cycle. Early roadmaps showed a 2H’2006 launch, however, AMD kept pushing the launch back. Motherboard vendors blamed the delayed launch on AMD for multiple delays with the RS690. AMD’s discrete RX690 variant that was to launch in the same timeframe as RS690 has yet to make an appearance.

The integrated ATI Radeon X1250 and X1200 graphics cores are identical, in terms of 3D capabilities. Although the ATI Radeon X700-series provides the foundation for the ATI Radeon X1250/X1200 IGP, it is a neutered derivative. The ATI Radeon X1200-family IGP features four pixel-pipelines with four pixel-shaders -- there are no hardware vertex shaders. Unlike some ATI Radeon X1000-series GPUs, the pixel-pipelines have not been decoupled – the ATI Radeon X1200-family only has two pixel-shaders. AMD specifies a 400 MHz GPU-core clock for reference designs.

Gaming performance with the ATI Radeon X1200-family IGP is better than NVIDIA and Intel offerings, according to AMD’s internal testing. With an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ and 2GB of DDR2-667 memory, users should expect a 3DMark05 score above 1000, but under 1200-points.  Synthetic benchmarks aside, users should expect 30-35-fps in Half Life 2 and 35-40-fps in Far Cry, according to AMD. AMD’s internal testing was conducted with a screen-resolution of 1024x768, anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering disabled.

Video output capabilities differ between the ATI Radeon X1250 and X1200 integrated graphics processors. The ATI Radeon X1200 powered AMD 690V only supports D-Sub VGA and TV-output capabilities. AMD ups the ante with the AMD 690G with ATI Radeon X1250 graphics by integrating native DVI and HDMI output capabilities with support for HDCP, despite previous delays.

AMD’s 690G will drive simultaneous DVI and HDMI devices too. It is up to the manufacturer to support the output capabilities of the AMD 690G, though some manufacturers have opted to provide HDMI outputs via an ADD2-style add-in card.

Don’t expect to use ADD2 add-in cards on AMD 690G-based motherboards though, as the 690G video output expansion cards are physical outputs on a PCIe x16-sized card without any electronics on it. Both the AMD 690G with ATI Radeon X1250 and 690V with ATI Radeon X1200 support TV-output capabilities, though it is up to the motherboard manufacturer to provide the outputs.

Video processing is where the new AMD 690-series shines. Featuring AVIVO Technology, the AMD 690-series boasts hardware acceleration for H.264 and VC-1 high-definition video formats. Blu-ray and HD DVD disc formats use H.264 and VC-1 video encoding.

AMD touts high-quality DVD playback capabilities with the 690-series as well – earning a score of 80 in Silicon Optix’s HQV DVD-benchmark. Similar NVIDIA GeForce 7050 and nForce 630a configurations scored 20-points while Intel’s G965 scored 48-points. Silicon Optix’s HQV DVD-benchmark displays various video clips and test patterns to evaluate a video device’s processing capabilities. The maximum achievable score is 130-points.

The integrated ATI Radeon X1200-family graphics core also feature 10-bit digital video processing for up to 10.7 billion colors, the average video processor only displays 16.7 million colors. AMD touts 3:2 pull down detection for progressive DVD video playback too.

Users that prefer to install their own graphics card may do so with a single PCIe x16 slot. Graphics aside, AMD has moved certain south bridge functions to north bridge with the AMD690G and 690V.

Although the AMD 690G or 690V is paired with the SB600, high-definition audio and PCIe x1 is a north bridge function. With the native HDMI output capabilities on the 690G, the north bridge-located audio controller allows the HDMI output to carry digital audio while bypassing the high-definition audio codec.

Since audio and PCIe x1 expansion is moved to the north bridge, the SB600 south bridge is only responsible for ten USB 2.0 ports, 4x SATA 3.0Gbps, one PATA and the PCI-bus. Lastly, the AMD 690G is an AMD validated solution for its complete commercial platform.

The following AMD 690G and 690V-based products have been confirmed:
  • Albatron
    • KI-690-AM2
  • ASUS
    • M2M-VM HDMI
    • V2-M2A690G
    • V3-M2A690G
    • P1-M2A690G
    • P2-M2A690G
  • Biostar
    • R68CA-M2T
    • TA690G-AM2
  • ECS
    • AMD690GM-M2
    • AMD690VM-M
  • Epox
    • AT690VI Pro
    • AT690G Pro
    • AT690G-M
    • AT690V-M
  • Foxconn
    • A690GM2MA
    • A690GM2MA-RS2H
  • Gigabyte
    • GA-MA690GM-S2
    • GA-MA69G-S3
    • GA-MA69VM-S2
  • Jetway
    • M2A692-GHG
    • M2A692-GDG
    • M2A692-VP
  • MSI
    • K9AGM2
    • K9AG Neo
    • K9AG Neo2
  • PC Partner
    • RS690MKM-AB1S
    • RS690CMKM-A94L
  • Sapphire
    • PI-AM2RS690MHD
    • PE-AM2RS690M
  • Shuttle
    • XPC ST22G5
    • XPC ST23T
Expect AMD 690G and 690V-based motherboards to hit retail next month ready to take on NVIDIA’s GeForce 7050 and nForce 630a, and GeForce 6100 and nForce 410/405. Pricing will be around $80 USD for an AMD 690G-based motherboard.

Update 2/28/2007: The ATI Radeon X1250 has four pixel-pipelines and pixel shaders instead of the original reported two. There are no hardware vertex shaders in the IGP.


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HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By StriderGT on 2/27/2007 8:20:25 AM , Rating: 4
1. Are these chipsets capable of 24bit 96khz 7.1 channel LPCM audio output via HDMI?
2. Can the HDMI output be utilized for audio if an external PCI express GPU is used instead of the integrated X700 core?

I've created a thread discussing the HDMI audio/soundcard debacle. It's a tale of user frustration and company embezzlements of how something technically very easy and straightforward has become a complete and utter disaster for every PC consumer.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=79...




RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By hellokeith on 2/27/2007 11:19:15 AM , Rating: 2
Good post.

Supposedly HV's have been reluctant to use HDMI because of the royalties required, though to our best capability of getting public information, the royalties are pennies on the dollar, so it's more evasive excuses than providing solutions beneficial to the customer.

Integrated Video + Audio --> HDMI output with HDCP support. Such a simple request, and it would be especially easy for motherboard manufacturers and integrators to implement.

One theory I heard was that since HDMI is not in prevalent usage on computers monitors which favor DVI or VGA (d-sub), and some new competing formats like DisplayPort and UDI are possible, that the motherboard and video card companies are playing a wait-and-see regarding HDMI.


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By crimson117 on 2/27/2007 11:39:20 AM , Rating: 2
If I understand correctly, HDMI and variants add DRM capabilities to your graphics / monitor (maybe audio too). This in theory lets content providers ensure that you can't tap into the the audio/video stream when playing their protected media, so you can't "rip" music and video.

quote:
solutions beneficial to the customer


How exactly does what I described in ANY way benefit consumers, compared to the situation now? Is there a some wealth of wonderful content that the providers are holding back until HDMI is more prevalent, because they're scared of it being ripped?

Right now I can buy high quality unprotected music on CD's (and I do!), and buy high quality video on DVD's, which typically don't have any unbearable DRM (and the discs that do really get in your way, you can break the protection if you really want to).

So why would I as a consumer even want HDMI to move forward?


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By CorrND on 2/27/2007 11:48:37 AM , Rating: 1
There is one obvious benefit to the consumer: simplified cabling. I don't know if that outweighs the hassle of DRM (HDCP), but there is a benefit to HDMI.

It seems to me that many of the DRM arguments center around the fact that users want to imply the rights they have to content rather than accepting those rights set by content provider.


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By crimson117 on 2/27/2007 11:57:26 AM , Rating: 5
Legality and rights and constitutionality arguments aside, if some new technology introduces new non-trivial restrictions compared to present technology, consumers will not embrace it unless it also provides some significant benefit.

Personally, simplified cabling would not be a big enough benefit. I don't usually recable anything once it's first set up.


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By hellokeith on 2/27/2007 12:42:40 PM , Rating: 2
If I understand correctly, HDMI and variants add DRM capabilities to your graphics / monitor (maybe audio too).

No, you are incorrect. HDCP is completely optional. Video card producers can implement it or not, their choice. Also, HDCP can funciton over DVI. And lastly, HDCP is *only* used for protected content.. any unprotected content is delivered over DVI or HDMI without restriction.


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By teldar on 2/27/2007 3:06:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
1. Are these chipsets capable of 24bit 96khz 7.1 channel LPCM audio output via HDMI?


Digital audio is whatever it is. If your source is 24bit 96kHz 7.1 channel LPCM, a digital output should output it regardless. It should for any format.

quote:
Text2. Can the HDMI output be utilized for audio if an external PCI express GPU is used instead of the integrated X700 core?


I'm sure it won't. You'll not have any jumpers to allow a digital audio signal to be added to a separate video card, just like your thread on avsforums indicates.

Teldar


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By Samus on 2/27/2007 8:39:57 PM , Rating: 2
AMD needs this.


RE: HDMI audio/soundcard debacle
By StriderGT on 2/28/2007 11:02:45 AM , Rating: 2
To all those posting questions and suggestions to the HDMI audio/soundcard debacle just read a bit through the 5 pages of the AVS thread and you will actually see how deep the HDMI rabbit hole goes...


Is the
By chucky2 on 2/27/2007 2:47:19 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Expect AMD 690G and 690V-based motherboards to hit retail next month ready to take on NVIDIA’s GeForce 7050 and nForce 630a, and GeForce 6100 and nForce 410/405. Pricing will be around $80 USD for an AMD 690G-based motherboard.


The price is great and all (the $300 for a motherboard stuff is just insanity IMHO), but what's up with boards being available next month?

At this point, shouldn't the manufacturers have the product produced? It should be a matter of sending the product to folks like NewEgg, ZipZoomFly, etc., them updating their website for it to be listed, and us to buy it.

I can't believe that'd take a month to do... :(

What will be truly ironic is if MCP68 beats 690G to market...the behind the scene deal w/ nVidia for AMD to delay 690 so nVidia could get a competing product out theory that I have would pretty much be validated then...there's already no real true excuse for AMD to be this late anyway with 690, so making it later still really is just quite insane...

Chuck




RE: Is the
By Anh Huynh on 2/27/2007 3:00:26 PM , Rating: 3
The chipset officially launches tomorrow, Wednesday, the last day of February....:-p


RE: Is the
By chucky2 on 2/27/2007 3:13:53 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what that has to do with product being available in a month???


RE: Is the
By Anh Huynh on 2/27/2007 3:46:43 PM , Rating: 2
The product will be available next month, which means March, not in a month.


RE: Is the
By chucky2 on 2/27/2007 4:15:10 PM , Rating: 2
I really do hope you're right Anh , I've been waiting on boards based on this chipset for a long while now.

Got to wonder though how fast the MCP68 boards are going to be, and when exactly their planned to hit. OCWorkbench says in the following link they'll hit availability in late March...so MCP68 launches no later than a month after 690G? Coincidence? Probably not...

http://forums.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?t...

Chuck


Fatal1ty board?
By ricera10 on 2/27/2007 9:11:57 AM , Rating: 2
What happened to the Abit Fatal1ty board you reported on earlier? I thought that was based on the 690G chipset, and it's bit more noteworthy to enthusiasts.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6127




RE: Fatal1ty board?
By Anh Huynh on 2/27/2007 12:24:46 PM , Rating: 2
That is RS600, Radeon Xpress 1250 for Intel.


yeah
By sprockkets on 2/27/2007 2:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, I thought the previous AMD Albatron mini itx board was good for its size, then they release that one with dual ram slots, albeit laptop ram, cool




RE: yeah
By Seymourbbuts on 3/5/2007 5:50:09 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know how much the new mini-itx board might cost? I would hope for $100-$150 but it'll probably be $300 like the old one...


DFI board?
By dream caster on 2/27/2007 1:23:49 PM , Rating: 2
what about DFI?
I been expecting the 690 DFI board for months!




RX690
By raven3x7 on 2/27/2007 3:19:30 PM , Rating: 2
My guess is we wont see the enthusiast boards until summer. At that time we'll see them released paired with the SB700 southbridge(as shown on a roadmap that Chile hardware leaked) and the first K10 'Stars' processors. It doesn't make much sense for amd to release an enthusiast chipset right now.

Although i have to say for media center pcs these are perfect. Pop in a cheap single core CPU and you can throw any video or audio you want at it. Sweet!




TDP?
By dmce on 2/28/2007 6:27:57 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know the power output of these boards (roughly). Ive read the MCP68 is 11W TDP




waiting for the mobo to arrive!
By animous on 3/1/2007 2:55:35 PM , Rating: 1
Currently I'm using AMD + MCP51 combo and many games play but in very low settings. If this chipset can play in high settings, I ready to buy one!

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