backtop


Print 19 comment(s) - last by CoreGamer.. on Aug 23 at 9:24 PM


Image courtesy Gizmodo
iLounge gets an insider scoop on Zune

Details continue to leak out concerning Microsoft’s upcoming Zune portable media player. Today we have tons of new information on Zune including its design, user interface, and much talked about WiFi. There is also a new black and white image of a black Zune complete with headphones.

The first bit of information covers was presumed to be a touch sensitive click wheel on the face of the device. Not so according to iLounge. Instead, the wheel features four buttons (play/pause, menu and up/down scroll). The user interface has some nice touches including large album art due to the Zune's massive screen, customizable wallpaper and a larger capitalized letter that pops up on the screen as you scroll through your music library to tell you which part of the alphabet that you're on. Other details provided include an integrated FM tuner and the fact the Zune is larger than a 30GB 5G iPod and is made entirely of plastic. As for the integrated WiFi, here's iLounge's take:

Apparently you can use the Wi-fi feature to “loan” other Zune owners music for some short period (a day), giving them the opportunity to buy the tracks themselves from the Zune music store. While this is a cool idea, and could work well for ubiquitous iPods, it gets an “eh” here because you’re unlikely to randomly bump into other people who have Zune’s, and unless Microsoft actually gives away music, you’re even more unlikely to find people who are willing to purchase tracks from its latest music store. You may also be able to spool Zune music to a Wi-Fi-enabled Xbox 360, which again is a cool idea, but requires a $100 wireless adapter and the $300-400 console.

Whether all of the above is enough to convert the iPod faithful over to the dark side remains to be seen. iPod users are a loyal bunch and they always seem to come back for more. Microsoft may be able to pluck a few fresh buyers from the sidelines, but the road to any sizeable market share will be a long one.



Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

good luck.
By albundee on 8/18/2006 1:37:49 PM , Rating: 3
is it me?

or i just dont think Zune will take off. at all.





RE: good luck.
By boobot on 8/18/2006 1:54:46 PM , Rating: 2
hard to tell. The large screen is an advantage but we will have to wait for more information regarding true specs and services.


RE: good luck.
By michael2k on 8/18/2006 6:04:40 PM , Rating: 1
A large screen is an advantage... how?
Listening to music?
Finding music?
Longer battery life?
Lighter weight?
Smaller player?

It is an advantage when playing video... but as of yet the video market isn't the goal (though it is a target)... The iPod is the goal, isn't it?


RE: good luck.
By Mithan on 8/18/2006 10:09:55 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
It is an advantage when playing video... but as of yet the video market isn't the goal (though it is a target)... The iPod is the goal, isn't it?


And you know it isn't the goal? How? Because a bunch of people online are speculating about rumors?

My point is, we don't really know anything about the Zune. Its all leaks and speculation.

Could kick ass, could not kick ass.

DailyTech obsessing about things like "sharing music" is pretty dumb really. Even if nobody uses it, it doesn't detract from the system.


RE: good luck.
By jimmy43 on 8/19/2006 9:24:53 PM , Rating: 2
Not true, they are commenting on how these features are being advertised as big selling points, when in fact you need to spend money on additional accesssories and still they offer very limited functionality.


RE: good luck.
By defter on 8/19/2006 10:48:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A large screen is an advantage... how? Listening to music? Finding music?


A large screen is significant advantage for browsing the music. When you have >1000 songs available, it's much easier to find the specific song when you have a large screen.

quote:
It is an advantage when playing video... but as of yet the video market isn't the goal (though it is a target)... The iPod is the goal, isn't it?


I think the goal is mobile media player market. While video playback isn't as important as audio playback, good video playback capabilities are important to have.


RE: good luck.
By retrospooty on 8/19/2006 3:23:30 PM , Rating: 3
Is there anything that competes with an Apple product that you wont find points against? Is there anything that Apple can do wrong? Do you actually post here about any other subjust aside from Apple?


RE: good luck.
By michael2k on 8/19/2006 9:00:55 PM , Rating: 2
Is there anything competing against an Apple product that is better?

The MiniPC is more expensive than a Mac mini. A Dell dual-dual CPU is more expensive than a Mac Pro. The Creative Vision:M is bigger and more expensive than an iPod with video. The Samsung Yepp is harder to use than an iPod shuffle. Etc etc.

Apple doesn't make the best in everything. The iMac is nice, but not ideal. Apple doesn't make a small standalone desktop. Their 1.0 applications are feature poor and usually slow. Their hardware designs have become too cautious and evolutionary. Their OS kernel suffers from poor performance due to past design decisions. Their OS UI is inconsistent and the design sometimes arbitrary. Their hardware suffers from too many design flaws. Their two button mouse suffers from a design flaw that prevents it from right clicking if you rest your index finger on it. Their LCDs in the iMac and MacBook/Pro are too low in resolution.

None of that, however, detracts from the fact that Apple has some very good hardware and OS design, excellent applications, good usability, and great devices. With all the critics out there, why do I need to keep going on about Apple's problems?

And no, I usually don't post about subjects that don't involve Apple; most of the time it isn't interesting to me.

Now that I've answered your questions, can you answer mine?
Do you ever see anything right or good in Apple? Do you ever acknowledge or praise Apple? Or do you only ever bash Apple?


RE: good luck.
By retrospooty on 8/20/2006 1:02:31 AM , Rating: 2
Now that I've answered your questions, can you answer mine? Do you ever see anything right or good in Apple? Do you ever acknowledge or praise Apple? Or do you only ever bash Apple?

I do see some good in Apple, the ipod variants are easily the best Mp3 players out there, the UI is awesome. As for MAC's I dont personally want one, and dont personally think that OSX is all that (and yes I have used it extensively on a dual G5 at work, mostly troubleshooting browser issues, and our own software, not a whole lot of user apps), but I totally see why you, and many others like it. It's just not for me.

None of that, however, detracts from the fact that Apple has some very good hardware and OS design, excellent applications, good usability, and great devices.

Agreed.

Now, I have said nice things about Apple, and you have said some negative... The world is balanced again ;)

I will say this, I really, REALLY do hope Apple succeeds and takes back some marketshare. The 3% they are at isnt enough to spur much fear on the PC side. If Apple starts taking back a good chunk of the market share they lost over the past 15 years, it will force the PC side to innovate faster, and drop prices, and when that happens, we all win. Believe me, I want Apple to succeed.


By psychobriggsy on 8/18/2006 2:04:46 PM , Rating: 1
I strongly suspect that Apple will be upgrading their iPod hardware later this year.

What they bring is guessed at, but not confirmed in any way. I'd guess at:

- larger display (possible full-face of the device, with touch-screen navigation)
- 60GB & 120GB hard drives (Zune will probably get these too, once they're available)
- Wireless might be bluetooth (lower power) with facility to do sharing like Zune is purported to. With Bluetooth 2 it'd take a while (half a minute) to copy a song at 2mbps, but it won't kill your battery. Apple also likes Bluetooth. Maybe it'll use it to connect to the internet via your mobile phone.

The built-in FM transmitter sounds neat, although that's because practically all new cars have iPod docks available anyway, so the iPod is in far less need of this. Docks are safer anyway, you can control the iPod via the car's safer navigation controls rather than messing about with the player itself.

I'll make a random wild guess in the dark that the iPod will continue to look nicer to the majority of people.

The UI will be the primary issue. We all know the iPod's is very good, but will the Zune have an equally good or better interface, or will it turn out to be clunky or underfeatured?

In the end, we'll see how it looks and works when it comes out.




By Xenoterranos on 8/18/2006 2:09:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm most certainly waiting for something with a bigger screen. Nothing out right now, save for maybe the Archos, has a big enough screen. Touch would be nice too.

Hell, I want a DS Lite with a 120Gb hdd and a FM tuner.


By FITCamaro on 8/18/2006 2:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The built-in FM transmitter sounds neat, although that's because practically all new cars have iPod docks available anyway


Really? Because last I checked it was like 6-7. I won't buy an iPod. You can all enjoy your proprietary hell. Yet you still make fun of Microsoft for it....


By Xenoterranos on 8/18/2006 1:57:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You may also be able to spool Zune music to a Wi-Fi-enabled Xbox 360, which again is a cool idea, but requires a $100 wireless adapter and the $300-400 console.


When the largest media player right now gets away with charging 50 bucks for an FM Radio(http://tinyurl.com/bfdpj), you're complaining that it lets you intereact with your xbox 360 for $100? An that 100 doesn't just let you connect the player either, it also provides the console with Teh Intertron. (granted, a usb wifi adapter shouldn't cost $100, but I don't think that's the Zune's fault...I know it's all MS, but COME ON!)




By creathir on 8/18/2006 4:46:26 PM , Rating: 2
BUT NO!!! It's the iTrip... not JUST FM modulation...

...

- Creathir


Hmmmmm
By Smurfer2 on 8/20/2006 12:47:32 AM , Rating: 2
I've been wanting to get an MP3 player and thought maybe the Zune would be a better option over the Ipod. (Not much of a fan of Itunes and yes I've used it quite a bit...)So far it seems like the Ipod will stay dominate from what has been reported. Guess I will need to keep a ringside seat and see how the MP3 battle plays out in the next 6 months.




RE: Hmmmmm
By CoreGamer on 8/23/2006 9:24:53 PM , Rating: 2
Depends on what size, if your looking for something small the Sandisk sansa is an awesome buy, If you looking for something bigger than the zune might be good. The only thing that puts me off on this thing is the high price range.


By pixelslave on 8/18/2006 2:40:34 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
While this is a cool idea, and could work well for ubiquitous iPods, it gets an “eh” here because you’re unlikely to randomly bump into other people who have Zune’s, and unless Microsoft actually gives away music, you’re even more unlikely to find people who are willing to purchase tracks from its latest music store.


It will be really sad if the "loan" feature doesn't take off. "Loaning" music thru a mobile device is the first attempt to answer a shortcoming of DRM. You can no longer share the music you like to your friends. It's an acceptable compromise -- of course, that depends if you believe in copying a song and give it to a friend is your legal right.




looks like bad photoshop job to me
By aguilpa1 on 8/18/2006 2:47:52 PM , Rating: 2
the screen reflection of an object is off, its reflecting off the screen, and the edge as if the object is right above it, but I dont see an object?




my opinion...
By jimeco on 8/19/2006 7:46:18 PM , Rating: 2
For me it's sort of like:
iTunes -> Media Player 11
Tiger -> Vista
iPod -> Zune

As for the bigger display with touch screen, I already posted my thoughts under the "iTunes Movie Studio..." article: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3846




"Folks that want porn can buy an Android phone." -- Steve Jobs

Related Articles













botimage
Copyright 2014 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki