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The future of Madonna and Metallica's music videos may be in jeopardy thanks to an ultimatum issued by Google in a contract dispute between its property YouTube and Warner Music.  (Source: Comedy Central)
Warner Music and YouTube -- the children aren't playing nice

In an increasingly high profile spat hearkening back to Apple and NBC's drama-laden contract dispute over TV royalties, YouTube and Warner Music are at each others' throats after talks between the pair over video content royalties fell through.

Late last week talks seemed to be going well between the pair.  A contract had almost been reached, when Warner decided to pull its terms and replace them with more favorable ones.  An angry Google retaliated by dubbing Warner “unforgiven” and announcing that it was pulling Warner's music videos from YouTube.  Madonna and Metallica were among the top viewed items scheduled to be pulled from the video sharing site.

Ever since, the rift has grown increasingly nasty and has descended into the realm of he-said-she-saids.

Some are saying the harsh words on both sides are just ploys to try to get more favorable terms, as many concluded was true with NBC and Apple.  Warner Music's contract with YouTube expired months ago, according to The New York Times, yet its videos remain up on the site.  Even with its threats of action, Google has yet to pull Warner's music videos as it has said it would, perhaps uneager to kill some of its top traffic items.

The spat is significant, though due to the large amounts of money involved and ramifications on YouTube's dealings with other labels.  Sony, Universal and EMI's contracts with YouTube all have soon-to-expire contracts with YouTube and are likely waiting to see how Warner's gambit plays out.

While Warner's income from YouTube is significant, overall it's a drop in the bucket, albeit a growing one.  Warner reported $639M USD in digital revenue for the fiscal year that ended in September, with only roughly 1 percent ($6.39M USD) coming from YouTube deals.  However, the field is growing -- Universal Music Group announced this week that its yearly YouTube haul is in the "tens of millions".

Despite the harsh words, both sides are likely eager to make up, deep down.  Six of YouTube's current top ten videos are music videos and the site's traffic is heavily reliant on music videos.  It has become an MTV of the internet generation; however, in order to maintain this content it must continue to eke out deals with the major record labels. 

Likewise with 25 percent of Google's searches now accounted for by YouTube, that's one growing income source that the cash strapped record labels will find hard to resist for too long.



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Ugh.
By BillyAZ1983 on 12/22/2008 2:32:10 PM , Rating: 1
I am a big fan of Metallica, and while I dont neccessarily agree with all the things that they have done and said, I wonder how much of, if any, say they truly have in this or even Madonna for that matter.

As we all know based on the legal proceedings the RIAA has brought forward, the record companies seem to have less of the band's interests at heart, (and thats for any band) and I believe this is solely the record company just wanting to be greedy.




RE: Ugh.
By UNHchabo on 12/22/2008 2:57:39 PM , Rating: 2
Supposedly the whole Napster thing was entirely Lars, and the rest of the band didn't really have an issue with it.

Hell, Metallica's always been a huge supporter of anyone who wants to bootleg their live shows. It's the studio material that they went after people for.


RE: Ugh.
By artemicion on 12/22/2008 10:49:02 PM , Rating: 2
Security guy at the Metallica concert I went to last week made me go back to my car after trying to bring in a digital camera, so I think their stance on recording live shows must've changed. Claimed it was "Metallica's Rule". I'm sure it's a common rule at big concerts. My cell phone has a camera on it that video records anyway so I dunno how effective it is.

Not that I care either way. If I were a big-time artist I'd be hoarding every dime I could from you all too. Welcome to America.


RE: Ugh.
By DFranch on 12/23/2008 12:50:56 PM , Rating: 2
Was he Metallica security or arena security. Arena Security can be a$$holes.


RE: Ugh.
By whiskerwill on 12/22/2008 3:14:03 PM , Rating: 4
Record companies spend millions to turn no-name bands into profitable, popular acts. You can hardly blame them for wanting a return on their investment.


RE: Ugh.
By BillyAZ1983 on 12/22/2008 4:43:45 PM , Rating: 1
Sure I can! At some point it stops becoming a return on your investment and becomes pure profit.

While Most bands never see the light of day or get the recognition that they deserve, you can't tell me artists like Metallica or Madonna, who have been around for 20+ years, are a risk anymore for the record label. In fact, its bands/groups/singers like them , that actually generate the revenue to let the smaller groups/singers see the light of day.

Metallica has the 3rd best selling album of all time and has 8% of all radio air-play in america. Can you honestly tell me that this is costing warner more then what they are bringing in? C'mon!


RE: Ugh.
By Reclaimer77 on 12/23/2008 11:48:19 AM , Rating: 1
So uhhh its been what ? 10 years since they took down Napster ? And they are still being dicks.

Metallica, know what would REALLY help your sales ? Getting back to making good music. Or did you forget that when you decided to sell out and milk your name for all it was worth ?

But continue to be dicks and blame the Internet for everything.


Sorry, video cannot be displayed...
By Screwballl on 12/22/2008 2:44:34 PM , Rating: 5
Don't pull the video completely, just replace it with this page:

Sorry, video cannot be displayed because Time Warner is refusing to work with us on a contract that would let you the user see this content. Please contact them at xxxxxxx@timewarner.com or 800-555-1234 to let them how you feel about this.




RE: Sorry, video cannot be displayed...
By Kary on 12/22/2008 5:37:17 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, that's how Dish Network handled it :)


Good one!
By kristof007 on 12/22/2008 2:29:45 PM , Rating: 2
At least we can see that someone still has a sense of humor in the business when they can call the other the "Unforgiven".




"Unforgiven"?
By UNHchabo on 12/22/08, Rating: -1
RE: "Unforgiven"?
By amanojaku on 12/22/2008 2:44:39 PM , Rating: 3
If Warner is "Unforgiven" does that makes its artists "Disposable Heros?"


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By onwisconsin on 12/22/2008 3:00:46 PM , Rating: 2
Or are they the Master of Puppets...


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By MrBowmore on 12/22/2008 4:08:40 PM , Rating: 2
They can Ride the lightning!


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By jay401 on 12/22/2008 2:57:57 PM , Rating: 5
Thank you, Captain Obvious.


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By bodar on 12/22/2008 3:58:19 PM , Rating: 5
UNHchabo, meet The Joke; Joke, meet UNHchabo. I'm sure you two have a lot in common, drinks and snacks are in the kitchen.


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By UNHchabo on 12/22/2008 6:53:55 PM , Rating: 3
I worded it like that cause I didn't figure there'd be many people that familiar with Metallica's song titles, and I didn't want to be too subtle. Turns out that everyone got the joke, and I looked stupid... :/


RE: "Unforgiven"?
By walk2k on 12/22/2008 4:41:19 PM , Rating: 4
Oh no, now rich pop stars will have to drive Bentleys with only 22 inch gold plated rims instead of 24 inch gold plated rims with diamond studs!


"So, I think the same thing of the music industry. They can't say that they're losing money, you know what I'm saying. They just probably don't have the same surplus that they had." -- Wu-Tang Clan founder RZA














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