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Google won't host CBS content legally, as was originally promised

The Wall Street Journal reports that a deal between Google and CBS collapsed when the companies weren't able to reach an agreement. If agreed upon, the deal would have created a revenue sharing partnership between the two companies in which YouTube would legally host clips from CBS shows including "The Late Show with David Letterman" and "CSI."

The inability to create a partnership comes as a blow to Google, which had guaranteed ad revenue in excess of $500 million for CBS. The deal unraveled because neither company was able to decide on key issues such as the length of the partnership. Although the companies will still work together on some projects, they will be at a much more modest level.

Google's relationship with U.S. TV companies has steadily worsened since its acquisition of YouTube for $1.65 billion in stock. Last year Google was working on a deal with media giant Viacom Inc., but it never matured and Viacom instead accused Google of copyright infringement, demanding YouTube remove around 100,000 clips. Just this week, Viacom announced that it would be licensing its content to Joost, a new startup company founded by the same people behind Skype and Kazaa.

NBC isn't very happy with Google either. Last June the company announced that it would place promotional clips on YouTube and buy ads, but last week the general counsel of NBC sent Google a six-page letter telling Google to keep unauthorized content off of YouTube.



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1.65 billion for what?
By OrSin on 2/23/2007 4:15:01 PM , Rating: 3
It seems they have no legit services now. They ahve to depend on pirated video and home movies. Sorry i dont see it paying off. And now Mysapce is lossing people like water so that $900 million is looking ill spent.

Still I like google. They are trying. Just not everything they touch is gold any more.




RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Mitch101 on 2/23/2007 4:22:59 PM , Rating: 3
Wow could this be the pendulum swinging the other way for Google?

One thing is for sure YouTube was sold at the peak. Imagine if all this happened right before the sale?


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Zurtex on 2/23/2007 5:44:35 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm, I think Google knew the challenge before they started. The reason YouTube weren't attacked much before hand is that they had no money, now they are owned by Google, if people sue they could potentially make lots of money, so Google had to be somewhat careful.


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By cochy on 2/23/2007 9:01:23 PM , Rating: 2
It wouldn't have happened before the sale for a very simple reason. Google has way more money to go after in law suites than YouTube had before they were bought over. NBC, Universal and the rest of them aren't stupid. They waited for someone with deep pockets to buy YouTube and now the fun with lawyers begins.


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Mitch101 on 2/27/2007 11:56:23 AM , Rating: 2
Good point on the deep pockets guys lets add the idea that Im sure the networks dont want Google becoming a media company especially with the networks content. Media companies make their money from the commercials You Tube was all the stuff without the commericals and advertising revenue would all go to feeding google and not the media networks.


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Xenoid on 2/23/2007 4:30:08 PM , Rating: 2
Why don't they just move all their servers to a different country and host whatever the hell they want?


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Flunk on 2/23/2007 4:34:06 PM , Rating: 2
Because eventually the US goverment would require all US ISPs to filter out access to google sites. Plus moving all of their business operations to a new country would be a logistical nightmare.


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By Xenoid on 2/23/07, Rating: 0
RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By goku on 2/23/2007 6:22:14 PM , Rating: 2
wouldn't that be sensorship?


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By bdot on 2/24/2007 1:19:29 PM , Rating: 2
And what problem does the US Gov. have with Sensorship?


RE: 1.65 billion for what?
By creathir on 2/24/2007 3:46:12 PM , Rating: 2
Believe it or not, the United States is NOT communist China (contrary to popular belief here on DT)

The US Government has NO CONTROL over the routers routing traffic on the public Internet. Zero. This is why you can still access sites such as The Pirate Bay and what not.

Doing so would violate the First Amendment.

As far as moving their business operations to a new country being a nightmare, I would IMAGINE they already HAVE datacenters in other countries, otherwise, when those trans-oceanic lines go down, so does their site to the world.

Any major company with a disaster recovery plan has this sort of stuff in place already.

- Creathir


Not surprising because
By Korr on 2/23/2007 7:15:51 PM , Rating: 2
Google is doing too many things at a time.

A few years ago it was just a simple and kickass search engine (and it still is). But then came the Toolbar, Blogger, Picasa, Gmail, Maps, Earth, Chat, Desktop, Video, Froogle, Sidebar, Mobile, Docs & Spreadsheet, Checkout, Talk, Gadgets, Pack, Apps, Myspace, Youtube, sponsoring this, investing in that company, buying this company, research centre here, engineering office there, sales offices here and there, expand to overseas market there...

Take it easy Google... do you want our souls next or something?




RE: Not surprising because
By bottle23 on 2/23/2007 8:50:03 PM , Rating: 3
What a bunch of nonsense.

This has nothing to do with Google "doing too many things at a time".

This is to do with content companies realising that its more profitable NOT to use Youtube and go with another party.

Have you not notice the timing? Viacom just signed up with Joost. Their negotiations ALSO failed with Youtube. (resulting in many videos being deleted for copyright infringement). Now CBS is following Viacom.

100 to 1 says CBS will also sign up with Joost.


RE: Not surprising because
By Korr on 2/24/2007 2:25:27 AM , Rating: 2
It has everything to do with Google doing too many things at a time. The point I'm trying to make is that when you are as ambitious as Google is, not everything is going to well and stuff like this is going to happen, thus not surprising.


RE: Not surprising because
By Icepick on 2/24/2007 9:01:47 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed.

Off topic - why can I no longer rate posts? I used to be able to months ago when this site first started.


RE: Not surprising because
By cochy on 2/23/2007 9:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pack, Apps, Myspace


Google doesn't have anything to do with Mysapce. Myspace is owned by News Corp.


Situation out of control
By crystal clear on 2/25/2007 12:11:07 AM , Rating: 2
"Google of copyright infringement,"

Unquote-

* Google/You tube are busy/preoccupied fighting it out with copyright holders of all sorts spread across the globe,
trying to make deals with them & busy removing those that are copyright infringements .

*They like the press & websites &the WEST in general seem to
be preoccupied with these issues,that they fail to NOTICE
some very serious issues that need to dealt with urgently.

*Sometime ago I had made a comment on this(read below)-

"They got to stop this "
By crystal clear on 2/14/07, Rating: 2
By crystal clear on 2/14/2007 6:02:05 AM

One popular video on the site shows a man being shot in the head. A stomach-churning series of photos shows another execution victim, his missing face a mangled mess of flesh

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?typ...

Unquote-

Today it is criminals like the above,then Blackmail & extortion & threats by organized crime then terrorist??????

This blatant misuse/abuse of technology.

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=6087&...

*Islamic Fundamentalist/Terrorist/Muslim extremist etc
are using You tube & other similar sites to spread their
propoganda material with the convinience & ease provided to them by such vedeo uploading sites.

*Propoganda material is INCITEMENT to COMMITE ACTS OF TERROR.
They also RECRUIT new followers with those inflamatory vedeos that they upload.
They also can instruct/show how to commite ACTS of TERROR,by
showing how to make Home made BOMBS-Suicide JACKETS-What materials & devices to use.Inshort all the TECHNOLOGY required to execute ACTS OF TERROR.

*They use the sites for Blackmail & extortion,
also showing the kidnapped victims followed by threats to kill etc,asking for a ransom etc.

*The ex wife of a famous Brazilian football star found her
vedeo clips on "You tube" having sex on a secluded beach.

* The list is endless, how people use these sites for bad motives/purposes.

*Daily millions of vedeo clips of all sorts are uploaded on all these sites-You just cannot control what is loaded on.

*Its a situation OUT OF CONTROL-this can be stopped only by Goverments/courts that change "HOW THESE SITES OPERATE".
Every vedeo clip has to revued/checked before allowed to be loaded on to the site.

*So behind the copyright issues is a huge stackpile of other
VERY dangerous issues, that are ignored.

So WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE for this LACK OF CONTROL,MISUSE,
ABUSE,etc??????




RE: Situation out of control
By jtesoro on 2/25/2007 8:13:50 AM , Rating: 2
Hey man, I don't know if it is just me, but somehow I have a hard time reading your posts. To start, part of it is the irregular line breaks in your posts. Then sometimes the sentences are preceded by an asterisk (*), sometimes a pound sign (#) and sometimes nothing. Minor stuff, but it throws me off!

It can also be difficult to distinguish quotes from regular comments. Often i see "Quote-" and "Unquote-" which don't match up. You might want to use the Quote button while posting, as this indents and italicizes the relevant text.

Anyway, I'm not dissing you or anything, as I always try to read through and understand what you're saying, but truth to say that it can be a challenge occasionally! :)


RE: Situation out of control
By crystal clear on 2/25/2007 11:28:21 PM , Rating: 2
Accepted-I take your comments in a positive mode.

Just for your information,I post my comments certainly not in ideal conditions.I get constantly interupted my phone calls that need to be responded first,It could be my staff members/secretary/clients/ etc etc.
Plus I am not always in my office rather at the airport lounge,or hotel,at a lucheon,etc etc.I work on my laptop most of the time.
Also all my letters/memos etc are drafted/typed by my secretary.(All I do is to dictate-sorry I am a spoilt guy)

Anyway NOTED YOUR COMMENTS-got to improve.ok
Thanks.


RE: Situation out of control
By iNGEN on 2/26/2007 11:10:20 AM , Rating: 2
The people who post those clips are responsible.


RE: Situation out of control
By iNGEN on 2/26/2007 11:10:20 AM , Rating: 2
The people who post those clips are responsible.


joost is probably ecstatic
By RamarC on 2/23/2007 4:47:58 PM , Rating: 3
joost is looking more and more like the next-gen video winner even before they release a public product. they have access control built-in and are getting content from the producers. youtube will still be popular for community video but the major content producers won't tolerate their content on youtube especially if its available 'legally' on joost.




RE: joost is probably ecstatic
By Charlemain on 2/23/2007 7:48:31 PM , Rating: 2
I agree...Google should probably have rebranded their commercial TV activity as a seperate division of Youtube, maybe under a new brand name.


Music Videos
By dude on 2/23/2007 11:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
Other than music videos, I don't remember ever watching anything else illegal on youtube.

To watch CSI, which requires you to look at some stuff with finer detail, youtubes' small grainy quality is not going to satasify alot of people.

Most of the music videos I watch because I do not watch TV. My experience of TV shows consists of complete season dvd's, which I would purchase at the end of every season/beginning of next season.




Distrobution & Production
By iNGEN on 2/26/2007 11:12:22 AM , Rating: 2
So, when are we going to hear about Google buying one of the media production companies? My guess is after they all sign up with Joost. Anyone else want to venture a guess?




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