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While beautiful, Yellowstone National Park is one of the most geologically active sites in the U.S. A supervolcano eruption, which could blanket the U.S. in a thick smog of ash, has not occurred in 640,000 years, but recent quakes have scientist on high alert. The quakes themselves could also pose a threat.  (Source: Corbis/Discovery Channel)
Could Yellowstone's quakes lead to an eruption or could the quakes themselves pose a threat?

Scientists at Yellowstone National Park are carefully monitoring a series of recent quakes, but insist that there is current no reason to believe that the area is going to blow.  Yellowstone, home to famous geysers and hot springs, is among the most geologically active sites in the continental U.S. 

Massive eruptions have already occurred three times at Yellowstone, 2.1 million, 1.3 million and 640,000 years ago.  The last eruption sent 240 cubic miles of debris and ash into the air, enough to block out the sun over the continental U.S. for a prolonged period of time and cause extinction of species.  A new eruption could one day blanket the U.S. in a choking cloud of ash.

Scientists have observed over the past several decades a gradual swelling of the Yellowstone caldera of approximately 0.6 inches per year, indicating magma pressure.  Over the last three years, the rate of swelling has increased dramatically to approximately 3 inches per year.

Spooked by the swelling magma, many are fearful that a series of recent quakes which have rocked the region are a precursor to an eruption.  Not necessarily so, say scientists.  They say that the earthquakes are not induced by magma, but rather by hydrothermal fluids, and are thus not a predictor of eruptions.  Still they are closely monitoring the quakes for fear that they could trigger an eruption.

The largest quake storm appeared in 1985, with over 3,000 quakes over several months.  The current swarm and the 1983 swarm are classed as "small swarms" as they consist of less than 1,000 quakes.  The 1983 swarm consisted of 70 some quakes, while the ongoing current swarm has seen 250+ quakes.

Robert Smith, a professor of geophysics at the University of Utah says that while quakes and quake swarms are a fact of life at Yellowstone, the very short period over which these quakes have occurred has scientists on high alert.  Scientists are watching Yellowstone carefully for the sudden dramatic changes in earth shape or the release of smoke which could indicate an eruption is imminent.

Professor Smith describes the recent quakes saying, "They're certainly not normal.  We haven't had earthquakes in this energy or extent in many years."

The strongest quake thus far in the current swarm has been 3.8 in magnitude.  A magnitude of 4 is sufficient to produce moderate damage to surrounding structures.  Says Professor Smith, "This is an active volcanic and tectonic area, and these are the kinds of things we have to pay attention to.  We might be seeing something precursory.  Could it develop into a bigger fault or something related to hydrothermal activity? We don't know. That's what we're there to do, to monitor it for public safety."

The quakes have been occurring primarily centered on the northwest end of Yellowstone Lake.

Even if fears that an eruption is impending go unrealized, the quakes themselves could pose a danger.  In 1959 a 7.5 magnitude quake near Hebgen Lake triggered a landslide, which killed 28 people.



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I dunno about you guys
By Ryanman on 1/6/2009 9:20:29 AM , Rating: 5
but I'm all for an apocalyptic volcano blast.

Seriously. With the exception of nuclear warfare or an asteroid, name ONE cooler way the human race could be driven into extinction.




RE: I dunno about you guys
By mattclary on 1/6/2009 9:25:07 AM , Rating: 5
It would not even come close to wiping out humans, but the effects on our country would be devastating, especially right now.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By FITCamaro on 1/6/2009 9:35:50 AM , Rating: 5
Especially right now? Would it be less destructive to the country if the economy was doing well?

But yes this would only affect the US.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By CommodoreVic20 on 1/6/2009 9:42:35 AM , Rating: 5
A super volcano would effect the entire world. People in North America would die relatively quickly, the rest of the world would starve.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By FITCamaro on 1/6/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By masher2 (blog) on 1/6/2009 11:16:07 AM , Rating: 5
Depending on the size of the eruption, it most certainly would block out sunlight globally.

The year Tambora exploded in Indonesia it was known in England as "the year without a summer", and a supervolcanic eruption would be at least 10 times larger than this.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By therealnickdanger on 1/6/2009 11:43:54 AM , Rating: 5
One thing's for sure, we would go broke paying out all those carbon credits! Oh the humanity!


RE: I dunno about you guys
By FITCamaro on 1/6/2009 2:55:39 PM , Rating: 2
Nice nick.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By poundsmack on 1/6/2009 12:13:00 PM , Rating: 3
there was a great discovery channel piece on yellowstone as a super volcano a while back and it's effects. more can be found here http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/...


RE: I dunno about you guys
By just4U on 1/6/2009 4:07:52 PM , Rating: 2
The really sad thing is .. there are alot of people out there who would believe it was all linked to emissions, pollution and what not.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By austinag on 1/6/2009 10:04:22 AM , Rating: 2
Don't be so heavy, according to the Mayans we have until Dec. 12 2012 anyway.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Jacerie on 1/6/2009 10:31:57 AM , Rating: 2
12/21/2012 to be correct.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By codeThug on 1/6/2009 11:13:34 AM , Rating: 5
thank you mr. spock


RE: I dunno about you guys
By threepac3 on 1/6/2009 12:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
But most of the hoopla/apocalyptic fears will dissipate after Jan. 1st 2012.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 1/6/2009 1:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But most of the hoopla/apocalyptic fears will dissipate after Jan. 1st 2013 .

;-)


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Lord 666 on 1/6/2009 7:13:50 PM , Rating: 3
HAHA!!! You mean after Obama leaves office?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Dark Legion on 1/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno about you guys
By FITCamaro on 1/7/2009 8:32:22 AM , Rating: 5
You're right. The people who elected him are the downfall of America.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By retrospooty on 1/7/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By seamonkey79 on 1/7/2009 2:57:30 PM , Rating: 5
The idea that pure liberalism is the cure for pure idiocy is... pure idiocy.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By retrospooty on 1/7/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Nfarce on 1/7/2009 7:40:50 PM , Rating: 3
Bush voters the downfall of America, spooty?

Say that with a straight face after watching these dumbmASSES who voted for Obama. At least Bush voters knew who the f#ck was in Washington at the time. This video says it all about the stupidity of America...and many Obama voters who helped put him in office. I mean come ON now...not knowing that DEMOCRATS run congress? Pathetic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8


RE: I dunno about you guys
By retrospooty on 1/8/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Nfarce on 1/8/2009 6:38:07 PM , Rating: 2
No spoot, WE ALL will lose. I will say this however: Democrats are sure making things fun to watch.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By seamonkey79 on 1/11/2009 10:26:33 AM , Rating: 3
Oh please, the guy sounds like he's read all of FDR's paperwork and decided that those were good ideas. Pure liberalism, indeed he is.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Dark Legion on 1/8/09, Rating: 0
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Armorize on 1/6/2009 1:33:49 PM , Rating: 1
I suppose you also dont know that the current calendar we go by was changed during the 12th century or so. so unless someone transcribed the date and did some homework, that date is very wrong.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By theapparition on 1/6/2009 2:49:20 PM , Rating: 2
That date was based off the Mayan calendar, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Gregorian calendar.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Klober on 1/7/2009 8:26:55 AM , Rating: 2
Well actually, if you do some research, the Mayans weren't the only ones to predict a 2012 date as the "end of the world" - the different cultures that predicted December 21, 2012, are spread across the globe. The ones that I know off the top of my head are the Mayans, Aztecs, Incas, Egyptians and the Chinese. Somehow I have this hunch that all 5 of those civilizations weren't using the same calendar, which means the dates must have already been transcribed to our current calendar. Thank you for playing, please try again later. :)


RE: I dunno about you guys
By masher2 (blog) on 1/7/2009 8:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
> "Well actually, if you do some research, the Mayans weren't the only ones to predict a 2012 date as the "end of the world""

Actually no one-- not even the Mayans themselves-- predicted 2012 as the end of the world. The date is simply the end of a cycle on the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar. There's no evidence the Mayans believed that to be a cataclysmic event, and the tinfoil-hat types suggesting that other civilizations also predicted an apocalypse at the same time are wildly misinformed.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By foolsgambit11 on 1/6/2009 7:23:19 PM , Rating: 1
Dec. 21, 2012.

Great. I'm sure the Republicans will blame this on Obama.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By zombiexl on 1/7/2009 12:55:56 PM , Rating: 5
Why not, the . com crash was blamed on bush and he had hardly been in office.

Look at the brightside Obama has almost 4 years to solve the end of the world. Based on the way most of his supporters talk it shouldnt be a problem.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Samus on 1/7/2009 2:50:37 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A super volcano would effect the entire world. People in North America would die relatively quickly, the rest of the world would starve.


What in the hell are you talking about? I'd be surprised if this thing were capable of wiping out even 1% of the human race. When they talk about extinction, they're refering to animals.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By psychobriggsy on 1/7/2009 8:56:27 AM , Rating: 2
Well if all the major food production areas of the planet failed due to a lack of sunlight over a summer, then once supplies ran out people would begin starving, people would fight each other for food and out of desperation, and this would be worldwide. If the effects lasted another summer, you could be looking at a good 50% of humanity dying out, maybe 95%. Sure, you could get yourself room of rice, grain, lentils and beans, but that's no good for you when your neighbour has shot you and has human curry with rice for dinner.

Basically, if this thing explodes, get in the car and go to the supermarket (before everybody else catches on), and buy a couple of years worth of supplies. Then get enough wood and nails to secure your house (when this become necessary). Never mind all the other survival equipment necessary. In the best case you'll end up with a lot of food. In the worst case, you may survive.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Samus on 1/7/2009 9:10:20 AM , Rating: 2
Geothermal and Nuclear power would satisfy our horticulture needs for synthetic light and hydroponic crops. It's the 21st century -- the sun is nice, but not absolutely neccessary for food production. I'd be more concerned about the environmental impact on health, but that would be addressed after the initial fallout with carbon-based gas masks to allow people to roam outside until the dust settles.

Haven't you seen teh Matrix?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By masher2 (blog) on 1/7/2009 1:05:36 PM , Rating: 2
> "Geothermal and Nuclear power would satisfy our horticulture needs for synthetic light and hydroponic crops"

Those plants take years to construct, as would the massive greenhouses needed for the crops. We wouldn't have that much warning. You're right that mankind wouldn't go extinct...but a huge percentage of the population would certainly die. Civil unrest alone would wipe out billions.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By psychobriggsy on 1/7/2009 3:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
How long will they take to build in a world already plunged into panic and darkness by such an event, with the dominant superpower mostly destroyed and burning. Money would become useless overnight and civilisation would collapse. Building geothermal plants and massive indoor hydroponic plants that can feed 1 in 10 people, never mind everybody, would be out of the question.

Now if someone had the foresight to build these things, then it would be fine. It won't happen though. Not for something that is still pretty unlikely in our lifetimes.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Ratinator on 1/6/2009 10:28:17 AM , Rating: 1
Of coarse because the US is the only country in North America. It is not like parts of Canada are closer to Yellowstone than some parts of the US. Welcome to the world of the geographically inept. Hitler used to think his country was the only one that mattered too.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Screwballl on 1/6/2009 11:11:18 AM , Rating: 2
Yes but look at the jet stream... it would pull it southeast into Texas and then up the eastern seaboard... of course there is usually enough northerly flow from the gulf in my section of FL that we should be reasonably safe... but I would be worried about my parents in western South Dakota if it blew.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Kefner on 1/6/2009 11:57:24 AM , Rating: 2
A super volcano would just laugh at the jet stream, and spew its ash and debris where ever it feels like spewing! :)


RE: I dunno about you guys
By rudolphna on 1/6/2009 12:16:07 PM , Rating: 3
Uh... No. The ash leaves the volcano and is spewed tens of thousands of feet up, where it hits the jet stream. That is a huge river of air moving at several hundred MPH if I remember from science class right. The ash would be carried to the east by the jet stream and high level air currents, within weeks carrying it completely around the globe.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Kefner on 1/6/2009 1:58:17 PM , Rating: 3
I know exactly what the jet stream is. I meant what I said more as a joke though, comparing the amount of energy released from that kind of volcano to that of the jet stream. (hence my little smiley at the end) Now I am no scientist, but I believe that kind of explosion would blanket that entire atmosphere regardless of the jet stream. Now the jet stream may help it cover the entire world quicker, but it's going to happen regardless.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Ratinator on 1/6/2009 12:04:16 PM , Rating: 2
Depends on time of year. The jetstream in summer is many times bordering on the Northwest Territories which is about 1000miles north of the US/Canada border.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Ratinator on 1/6/2009 12:20:00 PM , Rating: 2
Forgot to mention that in winter it can easily be below Yellowstone potentially pushing it to the north. Literally everyone will be affected, not just the US.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By jjmcubed on 1/6/2009 5:50:24 PM , Rating: 4
One comment about the US that doesn't include Canada and you are comparing him to Hitler?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By arisch on 1/8/2009 1:45:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Hitler used to think his country was the only one that mattered too.

No, he tried to unite humanity. You're just buying into propaganda.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Myg on 1/13/2009 1:21:41 PM , Rating: 2
Just like every other misguided control-freak with too much influence and time to ponder "unity" from a selfish point of view...

All the intents were the same, so its pointless to rest on intents as a comfort zone for wrong doings; its the means which define whats important and we all know which means they were (even if they were outsourced/moved out of seeing eyes).

One ideal to rule them, one ideal to find them, one ideal to bring them all; and in the darkness: bind them!


RE: I dunno about you guys
By SiliconAddict on 2/1/2009 4:09:04 PM , Rating: 1
Ummm propaganda?! WTF? Holy shit there is so much documented history that they only thing he wanted to unite was Germany, and the Aryan race that its not even funny. He and the Nazi party wanted anything else destroyed. Period. Gays, blacks, Jews, gypsies , and pretty much any minority were fodder for him. Only brain dead clueless people who stick their heads in the sand and cover up their ears and NEVER think for themselves believe this BS. Do everyone a favor and read Mein Kampf. The shit is scary as hell. Ignorance, and people like you are more dangerous then any nuclear bomb or super volcano.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Lord 666 on 1/6/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Scabies on 1/6/2009 12:23:01 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah but it would still be blamed on Bush.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By TomZ on 1/6/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Tacoloft on 1/6/2009 6:32:40 PM , Rating: 3
What about the Governor during the time? I guess there is no accountability at the state level is there? Somehow Bush is always characterized as this evil genius and then two seconds later I am reading he is a monkey puppet. How do you give all bad credit to one man? Maybe others could be culpable?! Think about it…


By overlandpark4me on 1/6/2009 6:43:40 PM , Rating: 1
Calm down sweetie, he inherited this mess and if blacks had left town like they were told to, this wouldn't have been so bad. They could take a friggen bus out for Gods sake. Also, Dem's, and racist dems at that run that state and that bitch wouldn't let the guard come in when he wanted them to. Alex, I'll have "chocolate city" for 800 please. Start at the local level because they screwed him from the start making the unnecessary recovery harder than it needed to be. The black population was in charge of this state, and as we all know, I don't recall white people with big screen TV's in boats. "I is hungry, but I got my TV set." Losers.
I pity people like Tom Z


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Chernobyl68 on 1/6/2009 5:31:12 PM , Rating: 2
doubt it...where are you going to put a foot of volcanic ash that covers most of north america?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By callmeroy on 1/6/2009 10:54:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
It would not even come close to wiping out humans, but the effects on our country would be devastating, especially right now.


Actually you couldn't be further from the truth and trust me -- I wish your statement was correct, I really do.

A supervolcano (not just from Yellowstone - though its the one getting the most attention -- there are at least a half dozen possible supervolcanoes around the world) according to even conservative scientific calculations would at worse be the end for humanity and all life as we know it or at least would come close to wiping out the human race.

Trillions (yes that's not a typo) of metric tons worth of volcanic ash is one some projections of a yellowstone super volcanic eruption would eject (miles btw) straight up into the atmoshpere. The Earth's climate and own natural weather conditions would circulate the ash across the globe. Sunlight would indeed be blocked out enough to impact food supply, among other things. Think of anything that requires ventilation to work properly w/o overheating -- yeah that would all be clogged, equipment would be shorting out left and right, generators shorting possibly causing fires everywhere, then naturally for about a thousand miles from ground zero of the ejection site it would be pretty much nothing by fire both from direct contact with lava, and the (there's a name for it I forget what it is now) lava rocks blasting out of the volcano like mini-fireballs for hundreds of miles..then of course just from the fire spreading as fire does.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Ratinator on 1/6/2009 12:41:35 PM , Rating: 1
To add to this, look at this picture from Mount St. Helen's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1980_Mount_st_he...

The ash doesn't just magically stop at the Canada/US border like some would think, it goes up into Canada as well.

Another note from a website dedicated to Mt. St. Helens:
"The massive ash cloud grew to 80,000 feet (18 kilometers) in 15 minutes and reached the east coast in 3 days. Although most of the ash fell within 300 miles of the mountain, finer ash circled the earth in 15 days and may continue to stay in the atmosphere for many years."

Lastly the Mount St. Helen's eruption, as big as it was, would be miniscule compared to that of a super volcano.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By jjmcubed on 1/6/2009 5:54:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The ash doesn't just magically stop at the Canada/US border like some would think, it goes up into Canada as well.


Nobody said it would stop at the US/Canada border. We do understand that it will affect more than the US. We get your point my friend.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By snakeInTheGrass on 1/13/2009 11:01:30 AM , Rating: 2
Well then it's just lucky that nobody lives there.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By masher2 (blog) on 1/6/2009 6:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
Here's a photo of the massive ash plume from the Chaiten eruption last year.

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?200812...

That was about the same size as Mt. St. Helens, about a 5 on the VEI scale. A supervolcano would be an 8, about 1000 times the ash volume.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Chernobyl68 on 1/6/2009 5:32:58 PM , Rating: 2
lava bombs, iirc.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By MamiyaOtaru on 1/7/2009 6:18:34 AM , Rating: 2
Screw that, it's effect on me would be devastating. I live right outside Yellowstone in NW Wyoming :(


By CascadingDarkness on 1/7/2009 11:09:20 AM , Rating: 2
Duck and Cover


RE: I dunno about you guys
By callmeroy on 1/7/2009 11:36:21 AM , Rating: 2
Actually when (and yes its "when" not "if") this happens I'd trade places with you in a heartbeat....even more so the more massive the supervolcano is....I'm on the east coast about thousands of miles from you, I'd actually have to suffer first before I die...in your case you wouldn't feel a think...morbid I know...but true....


RE: I dunno about you guys
By MamiyaOtaru on 1/10/2009 12:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
Very true, and pretty much how we look at it. if it goes, we won't really be aware of it.

We're pretty happy up here with no hurricanes or tornados, and a local natural disaster that won't leave us to suffer.

Well, it'd be peachy if there weren't wildfires and drought to worry about :-/


RE: I dunno about you guys
By PhoenixKnight on 1/6/2009 9:28:59 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
name ONE cooler way the human race could be driven into extinction.


How about a freak accident of the Large Hadron Collider that destroys us all in a black hole? That would be so much cooler than an asteroid or nuclear war.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By AlexWade on 1/6/2009 9:34:16 AM , Rating: 5
Super collider? I just met her! And then they built the super collider. -- Humorbot 5.0 (from Futurama)


RE: I dunno about you guys
By gcouriel on 1/6/2009 9:50:02 AM , Rating: 2
"Wow... all this stuff happens when Lauren isn't here."

that's for all the fans of The Soup.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By JKflipflop98 on 1/6/2009 4:13:57 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, you and Joel McHale.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Graviton on 1/6/2009 8:48:38 PM , Rating: 2
yeah.. but what's the point if nothing will be left to show alien passers-by how totally wicked our demise was? :(


RE: I dunno about you guys
By callmeroy on 1/7/2009 4:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
The Super collider thing is my favorite BS thing people over hype diaster with.

to the uninformed its - OMG they can destroy the space time continuum , rip the fabric of reality, suck the planet in like a black hole...

To folks who read or pay attention to interviews or articles from real scientists know otherwise....there's a better chance of ME marrying Jessica Alba than ANYTHING remotely resembling trouble for all mankind from this Collider.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Mitch101 on 1/6/2009 9:30:51 AM , Rating: 2
Dont laugh you might get your wish sooner than you think.

This is one item I watched on discovery channel that sent shivers down my spine and one I wouldnt bet against happening in my lifetime.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Klober on 1/7/2009 8:36:06 AM , Rating: 2
I'm with you Mitch. The Discovery show was very sobering to say the least.


By Mojo the Monkey on 1/9/2009 4:55:41 PM , Rating: 2
Over the last 5 years, the dicovery channel and its partner networks (science channel, history channel), has been progressively dumbed down and sensationalized for ratings.

If the show you watched about this sent a shiver down your spine, its because it was calculated to do that and to get your attention. I saw 2 different segments on the caldera eruption process about 6-7 years apart on the discovery channel. With the EXACT SAME DATA being thrown around, the first show was very well executed and had a spectrum of possibilities. I saw the latter one and had to laugh! everything was SUPER-APOCALYPSE!!! FEAR FEAR FEAR!

Its a shame. Even the history channel now feels compelled to have third rate re-enactments of historical events during their discussions about facts and theories.

In short, don't buy into the once-reliable history channel as "gospel" about what could happen here. They take the small segment of science they want to show you for ratings.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By on 1/6/09, Rating: -1
RE: I dunno about you guys
By Jacerie on 1/6/2009 10:33:35 AM , Rating: 5
Does this poor bastard ever get a positive rating?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By MrBlastman on 1/6/2009 10:43:31 AM , Rating: 2
He should get more so he can't get a -1 rating.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By MrBungle123 on 1/6/2009 10:44:37 AM , Rating: 3
He is a troll and people have gotten so used to rating him down that even if he did post something that actually contributed to the conversation he would still get negative ratings.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By just4U on 1/6/2009 4:16:16 PM , Rating: 2
Funny you should say that. The other day he did actually contribute to a conversation. It was even well written with no hint of a flame. Ofcourse he was still rated down out of habit but that's to be expected.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By ebakke on 1/6/2009 10:45:25 AM , Rating: 2
A better question might be: Does this guy ever post something of value?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Gzus666 on 1/6/2009 10:46:53 AM , Rating: 2
At least once, check his post in the Thailand article. It is actually reasonable.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By austinag on 1/6/2009 1:11:42 PM , Rating: 2
Only by accident. He was trying to be offensive and fell short.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By TomZ on 1/6/2009 3:29:24 PM , Rating: 2
Even monkeys typing randomly at keyboards might, given enough time, form a reasonable response on DailyTech.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By just4U on 1/6/2009 4:23:16 PM , Rating: 2
Some of his statements have been getting better of late and are on point. Perhaps he/she realizes you can only sit on the sidelines and throw tomatoes for so long before you get bore (or interested) in the topic at hand and take part in it.

Shoot tho, not many of us have topic's about us on Daily Tech ... so it definitely has put him/her in the spotlight at times.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By TheRagnarok on 1/6/2009 2:18:20 PM , Rating: 1
Playing a bit too much of Spore?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Snowy on 1/6/2009 11:22:15 AM , Rating: 4
An alien invasion would be way cooler. In fact, if the world doesn't end in an alien invasion (think Prey), I will be severely disappointed.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By DASQ on 1/6/2009 11:33:03 AM , Rating: 3
Death by rocking out too hard?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By CZroe on 1/6/2009 11:55:58 AM , Rating: 3
"...name ONE cooler way the human race could be driven into extinction."

How about an out-of-control swarm of self-replicating nano-bots?


RE: I dunno about you guys
By Klober on 1/7/2009 8:40:12 AM , Rating: 2
Nah, we can handle that. We're still using ballistic weapons. :P


RE: I dunno about you guys
By exanimas on 1/6/2009 5:43:42 PM , Rating: 3
Easy. Everyone on Earth simultaneously chokes themselves to death with their own hands. Manliest way to die.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By initialised on 1/6/2009 6:33:59 PM , Rating: 2
A virulent, fast acting strain of rabies with an extended hyperactivity phase spreading amongst the human population might be cooler.

Cooler is the right word, the volume of ash would block out enough light to trigger an ice age.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By phxfreddy on 1/9/2009 7:30:52 AM , Rating: 2
Spoken like a true enviro - nut - job.


RE: I dunno about you guys
By SiliconAddict on 2/1/2009 3:55:37 PM , Rating: 2
A third Bush term?


Link?
By mdogs444 on 1/6/2009 9:28:37 AM , Rating: 1
Is it just me, or is anyone else surprised that we haven't heard any linking between the quakes and climate change in the liberal media?




RE: Link?
By FITCamaro on 1/6/2009 9:38:31 AM , Rating: 1
They'll find a way. If it happens in the next 4 years, lets see if Obama gets blamed for it happening like Bush was blamed for Katrina happening.

Not like it'll matter since those of us unable to leave the country will be dead in probably a month.


RE: Link?
By lennylim on 1/6/2009 2:57:23 PM , Rating: 2
Bush was not blamed for Katrina (except by the phenomenally stupid). He was blamed for the response to Katrina.


RE: Link?
By FITCamaro on 1/7/2009 8:33:52 AM , Rating: 1
Neither was his fault. The President doesn't oversee the mobilization and distribution of aid after a disaster. The person in charge of FEMA does.


RE: Link?
By arisch on 1/8/2009 1:47:38 PM , Rating: 2
That would be *ahem* Micheal Chertov.


RE: Link?
By SiliconAddict on 2/1/2009 4:16:27 PM , Rating: 1
Umm excuse me bitch? The president places in charge qualified people to run things like FEMA. He should have been on the phone asking for hourly updates when it was obvious what was going on. He should have flown home from his vacation when it was obvious that the shit was about to hit the fan. He damn well was responsible in this cluster fuck. He may not have been responsible for the actual hurricane but any president worth even 2 cents would have been instructing FEMA to mobilize 3 days in advance if not more...instead of what? A week later? That is the difference between a leader and a retard that would be President.
Watch everyone. We are going to seen a concerted effort to "revision" history over the next 10 years as Bush does his damnedest to try and paint is legacy in the best possible light. The problem is it doesn't matter what you paint it....a stinky turd of shit is still shit.


RE: Link?
By Yawgm0th on 1/6/2009 9:48:13 AM , Rating: 5
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of people from all parts of the spectrum politicizing science?


RE: Link?
By TwistyKat on 1/6/2009 10:01:02 AM , Rating: 4
No, it is sickening. Especially when these people are just parroting talking points instead of anything based in reality.


RE: Link?
By CurtOien on 1/6/2009 10:05:58 AM , Rating: 3
I agree. It is getting old. You would think that at a site like this there would be a higher level of discussion.


RE: Link?
By codeThug on 1/6/2009 11:17:47 AM , Rating: 2
it's just you


RE: Link?
By JKflipflop98 on 1/6/2009 4:20:01 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, it really shows you what type of person it is when they're manipulating science for their own gains. Science in itself is totally neutral. It simply is. Fact beyond contention.

As soon as someone labels any part of that as "good", "bad", or anything else, they're pushing a personal view.


RE: Link?
By androticus on 1/6/2009 6:02:53 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Science in itself is totally neutral.


Actually, I would dispute this. Science is both a body of knowledge AND the active process that generates and supports that body of knowledge. What gets investigated, and the point of view of the investigators, has a big impact on the body of knowledge, via papers, articles, etc. And like it or not, science is hugely political, insofar as things like NSF, NIH, etc. fund a lot of research; and indirectly, they have impacts on what gets researched, the credentials of scientists (by way of their grant histories). As just an example, homosexuality was and in many ways still is a taboo and politicized concept; as such, objective research on the extent of homosexual and other gender and sexual variations of behavior in animals has historically been vastly underrepresented. So "scientific fact" on homosexuality has been egregiously skewed. Likewise, more currently, "global warming" is the "politically correct" scientific view, even if not supported in the field nearly to the degree the liberal popular press tries to make seem. So what is more likely to get funded: a review paper written from a pro-warming viewpoint, or one written from a skeptical viewpoint? The idea of "raw" scientific data is a bit of a myth -- a person would need to be a thousand Einsteins to somehow synthesize all scientific theory themselves firsthand from "raw" scientific data -- everyone depends on theoretical intermediaries to synthesize the facts into overall coherent theories. And that process has implicit viewpoints and biases.


RE: Link?
By JKflipflop98 on 1/6/2009 8:41:43 PM , Rating: 2
You're still talking about what people do with the facts. Not the facts themselves. Facts are facts. Not right and wrong. They simply are.


RE: Link?
By jjmcubed on 1/6/2009 6:04:54 PM , Rating: 2
Some science is hypothesis that can't be proven(well, can't be with science as we know it). String theory? The origin of our universe? The list could go on forever.


RE: Link?
By SavagePotato on 1/6/2009 5:01:52 PM , Rating: 3
It's not just you, I want to clobber someone on top of their cowboy hat wearing head with their burning cross covered in nascar stickers, every time I see a post that starts with "the liberal media" in the first sentence.

Or with it in any other sentence for the most part.


RE: Link?
By masher2 (blog) on 1/6/2009 10:02:17 AM , Rating: 3
> " is anyone else surprised that we haven't heard any linking between the quakes and climate change in the liberal media? "

Actually, MSNBC last year was suckered into reporting that an "esteemed scientist" had found a link between global warming and earthquakes, on the idea that melting ice sheets would redistribute weight and cause quake storms.

A few hours after it was reported, the blogosphere pointed out it was essentially a hoax, and they quickly retracted.


RE: Link?
By Chernobyl68 on 1/6/2009 5:37:29 PM , Rating: 2
I saw a show on this on History channel I think. I believe it had to do with earthquakes off the coast of Alaska.


RE: Link?
By webdev511 on 1/6/2009 10:40:08 AM , Rating: 2
We sure as heck aren't going to find anything on this in the conservative media because as everyone knows, facts have a known liberal bias


RE: Link?
By Gzus666 on 1/6/2009 10:41:55 AM , Rating: 4
Isn't that a Stephen Colbert quote? Ha.


RE: Link?
By foolsgambit11 on 1/6/2009 7:25:35 PM , Rating: 2
I love this. The statement gets rated down, while saying it's by Stephen Colbert gets rated up.


it would be funny...
By acejj26 on 1/6/2009 1:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
if mankind perfects solar cell technology where it is cheap and widespread and relegates all other energy producing industries obsolete to where they don't exist anymore. and then this happens, and we have no means of energy production anymore.

nuclear ftw




RE: it would be funny...
By PhoenixKnight on 1/6/2009 2:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad we can't grow plants with nuclear energy, so we'd still starve to death.


RE: it would be funny...
By Grast on 1/6/2009 2:16:09 PM , Rating: 2
Actually we can, It is called a light bulb in a greenhouse powered by nuclear.

see.


RE: it would be funny...
By bubbastrangelove on 1/6/2009 2:40:46 PM , Rating: 2
Think of all the corpses at our disposal for nutrition and with sunlight blocked out and temperatures constantly below freezing the decaying process will be much slower.

Low carbs too.


RE: it would be funny...
By TheRagnarok on 1/6/2009 2:48:56 PM , Rating: 3
Wow. Although eating your own species gives you the uncanny chance of developing a malformed protein "hence mad cow disease", and a tribe in Africa "who would ritually eat the dead" developed something similar to it. Personally, I don't want a brain that looks like swiss cheese. -.-


RE: it would be funny...
By itzmec on 1/6/2009 4:05:16 PM , Rating: 2
thats theory, not proven


RE: it would be funny...
By Rivenburg on 1/6/2009 4:34:49 PM , Rating: 2
"thats theory, not proven"
WRONG!
It's called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (a Prion disease), and yes eating your own species is REALLY bad idea because of prion disease.

Move next to a nuclear plant and use electric lights. Fortunately my city (PHX) is one of the few with our own massive nuclear plant, oh yeah, CA can eat darkness.

The truth is, it really depends on the time of year and the weather if the jet stream will push the ash east at a really high rate of speed. It would be good for the rest of the nation but EVERYTHING directly east of yellowstone will be under twenty feet of ash if the jetstream is over the eruption at the time. There are existing ash distribution maps of the last two eruptions, it's really obvious the jet stream was going a different direction 640,000 years ago AND 1.2 million years ago. The projected distribution maps I've seen really point out the death of the American east.


RE: it would be funny...
By masher2 (blog) on 1/6/2009 5:01:24 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
yes eating your own species is REALLY bad idea because of prion disease
Eating your own species is bad for a much simpler reason. Almost none of the countless millions of animal diseases can jump to a human host (the term is zoonotic). But pretty much anything living in one human will transfer to another.

And yes prions as infectious agents are indeed still somewhat hypothetical.


RE: it would be funny...
By Bateluer on 1/6/2009 3:04:13 PM , Rating: 2
Humanity would survive a Yellowstone super volcano eruption. We survived the last few Yellowstone eruptions, after all. Plus, we survived the much larger Toba eruption, which was a VEI 8, the highest the scale goes.

The United States, Mexico, and Canada would mostly be screwed though. Humanity around the world would experience massive population drops, which would have an upside. Technology would allow many more humans to survive than did Toba, which nearly wiped us out totally, but we can't feed 7 billion humans with greenhouses. :p


RE: it would be funny...
By just4U on 1/6/2009 4:32:46 PM , Rating: 2
Sure we can. It would however require a massive effort by mankind. A plan of action would have to be implemented swiftly and hopefully greed wouldn't wouldn't be in the driver's seat.


RE: it would be funny...
By SavagePotato on 1/6/2009 5:05:59 PM , Rating: 4
Try to read what you just wrote with a straight face.

Hmmm massive effort by mankind. No I am going to go with cannibalism looting and raping followed by freezing and starving to death being the route mankind will go for.


RE: it would be funny...
By JKflipflop98 on 1/7/2009 12:25:07 AM , Rating: 2
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Oh wait. . . you're serious?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


New video Game?
By DFranch on 1/6/2009 9:36:04 AM , Rating: 2
It sounds like a cool plot for a video game. Instead of the same post nuclear war scenario we usually see.




RE: New video Game?
By Noubourne on 1/6/2009 10:25:20 AM , Rating: 4
HEY! ARE YOU CRITICIZING FALLOUT 3?!!

I challenge you to fisticuffs, sir.


RE: New video Game?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/6/09, Rating: 0
RE: New video Game?
By Dharl on 1/6/2009 12:45:05 PM , Rating: 2
As a game it was ok...

Personally I feel it should have gone by a different name.

Fallout 1 & 2 were so much better. People don't even know what they are missing.

I hate to hear the kids whom, at the time of release, wanted to play "that new first person shooter". Ugh.


RE: New video Game?
By TheRagnarok on 1/6/2009 2:41:38 PM , Rating: 2
I downloaded a copy of Fallout "1" a while ago, but I din't play it because it was in Spanish. Your comments have me feeling curious again. So I'll seek 'em both out as I personally thought FO3 was a little too much like Oblivion, but still a kick arse game.


RE: New video Game?
By Bateluer on 1/6/2009 2:58:36 PM , Rating: 2
Fallout 1 and 2 are on Good Old Games for a 10 bucks together, I believe.

I picked them both up at the BX a few years back for 2 dollars, a steal.


RE: New video Game?
By Vanderoh on 1/6/2009 12:51:02 PM , Rating: 2
Unlike all those great Star Wars games.


RE: New video Game?
By FITCamaro on 1/6/2009 3:00:46 PM , Rating: 1
I'm finally getting around to playing it. It's ok. Not the best game I've ever played by any means that's for sure. I mean the level of options is impressive. You don't get the option to blow up a "city" with a nuclear bomb very often.


I've done the calculations.
By FaceMaster on 1/6/2009 10:26:43 AM , Rating: 2
It doesn't look good, guys.

quote:
Massive eruptions have already occurred three times at Yellowstone, 2.1 million, 1.3 million and 640,000 years ago.


I won't go into detail about how I did it, but 1300000/640000 = 2.03125 years before the cataclysmic event. This means that in January 2011 it'll erupt. What is everybody planning to do for the last 2 years of their life? I'm going on an expensive holiday. And I'm going to tell the boss what I did to his Mum.




RE: I've done the calculations.
By bldckstark on 1/6/2009 12:30:37 PM , Rating: 5
To his Mum? What did you do to the bosses flowers?

Yeah, I know he is probably British, but I couldn't stop the picture in my head of some guy raping his bosses flowers so I thought I would share it.


By gstrickler on 1/6/2009 1:25:55 PM , Rating: 2
Some thoughts should be kept to yourself, that's not an image I needed. Still, it was funny so +1.


Boom?
By bubbastrangelove on 1/6/09, Rating: 0
RE: Boom?
By HaB1971 on 1/6/2009 12:18:17 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
If you thought your brother holding your head under the covers after letting off a stinker was bad


It would be worse if your brother was in his 30's and doing that!

No, I don't speak from personal experience thank you very much


RE: Boom?
By FITCamaro on 1/7/2009 8:35:34 AM , Rating: 2
The bigger worry is what is he doing in bed with his brother.


This just in...
By WalksTheWalk on 1/7/2009 9:52:29 AM , Rating: 2
Scientists are worried about something that has a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of happening in the next 10,000 years.

Scientists are also worried about:
Global Cooling
Global Warming
The Environment
Vehicle Mileage
What You Eat
What You Wear
What You Think

After the break we'll discuss the various crises in the world and how they can be solved by investing in public research grants.




RE: This just in...
By masher2 (blog) on 1/7/2009 12:16:47 PM , Rating: 3
> "Scientists are worried about something that has a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of happening in the next 10,000 years."

With all due respect, supervolcanic eruptions are expected about once every 10,000 years. We have historical records of many such eruptions in the past.


By imaheadcase on 1/6/2009 3:39:58 PM , Rating: 3
Most researches agree that if a eruption happens now, most the activity would evaporate yellowstone lake in seconds.

That being said the pressure relived because of all the water would cause a eruption of catalytic proportions. So you win some you lose some. :D




BREAKING NEWS!!!
By bubbastrangelove on 1/7/2009 12:16:24 PM , Rating: 3
Obama and Biden are on their way to Yellowstone as I type riding their recycled, tadum bike where they'll pee in the hole and put the fire out.

God Bless that Man!!!




The capping effect...
By RoberTx on 1/10/2009 1:01:19 PM , Rating: 3
As usual the scientist are leaving out the fact that the people are fatter these days so it will take a tremendous amount of grunt from that volcano just to heave the tourist off its back.




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