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  (Source: Reuters)
Yahoo and Microsoft continue in their Hills-esque drama

Yahoo seemingly made its position absolutely clear -- it felt Microsoft's offer of $31 a share, a 62 percent premium on current prices at the time of the offer, was unfair and undervalued the company.  It argued that anything less than $37 a share, or roughly a 91 percent premium on the price at the time, would be unsatisfactory. 

In the end Microsoft dropped its offer, citing that Yahoo's expectations were unrealistic, while Yahoo tried desperately to reassure employees and shareholders that it had a plan to weather the tough times ahead.

However, it didn't take long for Yahoo to apparently start hoping that Microsoft would consider pursuing it again.  In a move like something out of a television drama, the company announced only 48 hours after Microsoft dropped its bid that it would be willing to negotiate for a sub $37 price and that it would be happy to reopen talks with Microsoft.

Chairman Roy Bostock indicated that Yahoo's stubbornness on the $37 dollar price was basically an effort to get a bit more money out of Microsoft and it really didn't hope to get that much.  He told the Wall Street Journal, "Listening to shareholders is very important but you'll get lots of points of view...we think a fair value for the company is $37. It was not a take-it-or-leave it statement."

Yahoo is getting blasted by its largest shareholder, Capital Research Global Investors, one of the most respected investment institutions on Wall Street.  Gordon Crawford, a portfolio manager with the firm remarked in the WSJ article, "I'm extremely disappointed in Jerry Yang, I think he overplayed a weak hand. And I'm even more disappointed in the independent directors who were not responsive to the needs of independent shareholders."

In a separate New York Times article, Crawford continues to voice his disapproval stating, "I am extremely angry at Jerry Yang and at the so-called independent board."

In regards to Bostock's claims of shareholder support he challenges, "I would love to know who these shareholders are. It’s none of the ones that I talked to today. Everybody I talked to would have sold their stock at $34."

He continues, "I’m hoping that there is such an outpouring of outrage that the board is embarrassed into revisiting this thing, but I’m not optimistic about that."

Henry Blodget with the Silicon Valley Insider writes on the Yahoo's hardball stance and its recent reversal, "In other words, it was just a gambit--which Roy, Jerry et al, expected Steve would quickly counter with a bid of, say, $34-$35 because he was so desperate to buy Yahoo. Oops."

Now it appears that the price has dropped to $34, but it remains to be seen if Microsoft shows any interest in the company after it made up its mind to reject it.  Microsoft has said it will remain open to offers, but at this point it has to wonder -- if Yahoo only took this long to drop the asking price $3, how much longer will it really take for Yahoo to drop $3 more to the original asking price?  The only thing that seems sure at this point is that there's sure to be more drama between the pair.



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Please please Microsoft...
By Marlin1975 on 5/6/2008 4:20:45 PM , Rating: 5
Don't buy yahoo. You offered to much to start with and what they want now, not only in terms of money, would be dumb to follow through.

Maybe gates will come back and kick ballmer in the balls for even thinking of offering 40+ Billion for yahoo.




RE: Please please Microsoft...
By Fusible on 5/6/2008 4:28:39 PM , Rating: 5
LOL!!! I really thought this would be over for awhile but 48 hours. Sounds like a wife who is all of sudden worried that her husband is leaving her with nothing, and now wants to compromise. How classic is that.


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By Hiawa23 on 5/6/2008 5:20:51 PM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%. Looks like they tried to play hardball to drive up the price, when MS said F YOU, things have changed, LOL....


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By jlips6 on 5/6/2008 5:45:56 PM , Rating: 1
Will you buy us now?
No.
What will you do!?
We can give you this coupon.
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/7761/slap6jq.gi...


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By jlips6 on 5/6/2008 5:49:03 PM , Rating: 1
there was another word on this originally (before slap) but I can't find a link to the one with it.


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By inperfectdarkness on 5/6/08, Rating: -1
RE: Please please Microsoft...
By jlips6 on 5/6/2008 7:12:53 PM , Rating: 5
i would have thought so too until I actually played it.


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By lexluthermiester on 5/6/08, Rating: -1
RE: Please please Microsoft...
By Adonlude on 5/7/2008 2:25:30 PM , Rating: 5
Are we playing a game of lets see how controversial/off topic we can get?


By lexluthermiester on 5/8/2008 1:28:48 AM , Rating: 1
I didn't start this topic, but I "dissed" a Microsoft product, so I was expecting the down-rating... Of course none of this discussion changes the fact that the Xbox360 is STILL suffering a horrendous defective rate AND is still losing the division money... Not to mention losing ground to both Nintendo AND Sony. There are now more Wii's out than 360's. And PS3 isn't far behind. The NDS even has more systems sold than 360's. So you all can whine about how bad I'm "dissing" the 360 but it doesn't change the fact that the system is a mistake for Microsoft. They need to get out of gaming hardware and stick to what they do better, software.


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By Samus on 5/7/2008 6:52:57 AM , Rating: 2
Arguing the XBOX was a bad idea is simply a stupid arguement from an individual perspective...unless you own MSFT stock. Although Microsoft has lost a ton of money on the XBOX division, I don't really give a rats ass because I haven't lost shit. So there is absolutely no basis for arguement inperfectdarkness.


By lexluthermiester on 5/6/2008 11:21:02 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Don't buy yahoo. You offered to much to start with and what they want now, not only in terms of money, would be dumb to follow through.


I couldn't agree more, but for differing reasons...

quote:
Maybe gates will come back and kick ballmer in the balls for even thinking of offering 40+ Billion for yahoo.


Once again, couldn't agree more. Ballmer needs a good swift kick in the jimmies, but for mucking about in things he needed to stay away from... I personally believe that Ballmer may soon be replaced/removed from his post. His mouth is writing checks his rear-end can't cash, that is of course assuming he stops talking long enough for people to get through his gale force wind...


RE: Please please Microsoft...
By Omega215D on 5/7/2008 12:41:21 AM , Rating: 2
sounds like an ex trying to get back with their SO...


Does anyone else smell some kind of a setup???
By RogueLegend on 5/6/2008 6:12:36 PM , Rating: 5
Ok- I'm not some yahoo loyalist, nor am I an MS loyalist- but ever since the beginning of this whole thing, I've gotten the feeling that something is going on behind the scenes that either MS or Yahoo didn't want to share with us. While the rest of you are just sitting there hoping Yahoo does or doesn't get bought, no one seems to be analyzing the sequence of events.

The key fact in this whole thing is Microsoft's bid- they offered way more than Yahoo was worth. On top of that, certain analysis I've seen suggests that Microsoft would have had to borrow to complete the purchase. Yahoo is/was rejecting money that is more than what they're worth.

This leads me to one of three conclusions (in order of likelihood).

A) Yahoo is developing some amazing service/application/product behind the scenes that Microsoft wants and Yahoo just doesn't have the resources to finish it in a short amount of time.

B) Microsoft is experiencing some kind of internal crisis (lost ad revenue due to competition from Google, outpouring of clients, etc) or is simply trying to prevent Yahoo from teaming with Google. Either way, they disparately need/want Yahoo's customer contracts to remain competitive and stop their own stock price from diving.

C) MS offered more than what Yahoo was worth with the expectation of a rejection. At some level Microsoft must have known that the likelihood of this deal going through was extremely small, whether it came in the form of a rejection from Yahoo or regulators. So they offer it to discredit Yahoo's business sense and/or to kill Yahoo's stock price as we are seeing now. Either effect would assist in killing a competitor, and making them easier to swallow later from a regulatory standpoint and from a monetary standpoint.

There is a bit of logic here that I think people are avoiding: if Yahoo is truly already dying in MS's view, then why offer such an obscene amount of money to begin with? Why not wait until the price has bottomed out? If Yahoo is a dying brand, none of what Microsoft is doing really makes much sense unless there's an ulterior motive.

Again, I'm not some anti-Microsoft freak, nor am I an anti-Yahoo freak. Feel free to disagree with my theories, and please, present alternate ideas; but I think you must admit this move by MS doesn't really make much sense on several levels.




By See Spot Run on 5/6/2008 8:02:08 PM , Rating: 1
Actually, this move makes quite a bit of sense and is quite frequent in the business world. Nothing new here.

In the normal process of things, when a company (such as Microsoft) announces its plans to buy a company, it can't do so immediately. There is a period of time (a month or two or something like that) that they must wait to allow any other potentially interested parties the opportunity to place a bid. What many companies do, and Microsoft is no exception, is offer such a high bid that it discourages any other companies from placing a bid and thus create time delays and competition. Quite normal. Have you ever wanted a rare item really bad and are willing to pay more for it? Same thing here.

Also, Microsoft has to make the shareholders want to sell. If they offer a couple of dollars above what the shares are trading at, shareholders will laugh them out of the stock exchange. They need to make an offer lucrative enough that shareholders will want to sell. For example, let's say a companies stock is trading at $10, and the share holders are holding the company for the long run, expecting the companies stock to go up 10% each year. So next year it'll be $11, the next year $12.1, the year after $13.31 and in the 4th year it'll be $14.64. So in 4 years time investors are expecting this $10 stock to be $14.64.
Now bring it back to the present. Another company (lets say company B) wants to buy this company, and offers the shareholders $15. They are gonna get rejected, because big shareholders (not individuals) are in it for the long run. So this offer is essentially market price, and share holders are not gonna sell at $15. So company A must entice the shareholders to sell, so they'll offer $20. At this price share holders will sell.

So you can put away the tinfoil hat. This is perfectly normal, and happens all the time.


By RogueLegend on 5/7/2008 12:06:12 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
So company A must entice the shareholders to sell, so they'll offer $20. At this price share holders will sell.


First off, I'll ignore the tinfoil hat comment, as well as what I interpret to be your condescending tone (which was punctuated by your hat comment) and actually treat you with the consideration you failed to give me.

I don't disagree with the idea of enticing shareholders to sell. Believe it or not, this idea is fairly obvious. I'm trying to think beyond the obvious.

Considering Yahoo ended up rejecting what is considered to be a really good offer, your obvious explanation seems to be wrong, or in the very least is failing to take some factor into account. This also fails to take into account the strong chance of regulatory issues preventing the purchase.

Again, the problem is, throughout the bidding process, Balmer is acting like Yahoo has little to no value as a future brand- an opinion which seems to be mirrored by a few editorial groups as well as steadily declining stock prices since 2006 (something else your explanation is failing to take into account).

So, unless you have something else to contribute other than a condescending tone and an overly simplistic explanation of how buyers entice sellers to sell, you needn't bother responding.


RE: Does anyone else smell some kind of a setup???
By JustTom on 5/6/2008 9:29:46 PM , Rating: 2
You missed a 4th possibility: that Yahoo is worth more to Microsoft than its stock price would suggest. Most mergers are done significantly above whatever the current stock price may be, the hope is that the synergy of the merged company will increase its value. This very often does not work, see Time Warner/AOL for a great example.


By Regs on 5/7/2008 7:11:48 AM , Rating: 2
In accounting, we call this an offer of "good will".


By teflon billy on 5/7/2008 7:06:03 AM , Rating: 2
What about value in name? Yahoo is so well known online and has become a home page for a huge user group. Remember, if you're reading this you are way too in the know to be a regular internet user. Most people are your basic user, who doesn't have a clue about whats good or bad, they just surf. Like buying an Ipod. Its not the best but you know the name. For many thats what Yahoo is. So if MS can get that name and use it for their own products they suddenly link to a huge user base that would not normally think to change. Its done for them. Pretty simple in my eyes. And with all the regular news media covering this it puts the name even more in the minds of people.
I could see that alone being worth a lot of money, instant access to a set user-base.