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She said Yahoo protects its users by working "within the system"

Yahoo's chief executive officer said she was apprehensive about not giving in to the government's requests for data because of possible imprisonment for treason. 

Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer told an audience at a TechCrunch Disrupt conference in San Francisco that she feared treason charges and imprisonment if she refused to give the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) what it wanted. 

"If you don't comply, it is treason," said Mayer. "We can't talk about it because it is classified. Releasing classified information is treason, and you are incarcerated. In terms of protecting our users, it makes more sense to work within the system."

Mayer explained that Yahoo typically battles US government data requests from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, but if Yahoo loses that fight, the company doesn't have much of a choice. 

Many tech companies like Yahoo, Facebook and Microsoft are trying to receive permission to disclose what kinds of information the government requested in the past in order to increase transparency for users. 


Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer [Image Source: NPR]

This all stemmed from former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden's revelations about the NSA's spy programs, and how it tapped into the phone calls and emails of Americans. The government said this data was used to fight terrorist attacks, but the public feared for their privacy after the discovery. 

Last month, reports said that the NSA admitted to touching 1.6 percent of total globe Web traffic. Its technique was to filter data after harvesting it, which led to over-collection on a major scale. 

Days later, an internal audit showed that the NSA broke the law nearly 3,000 times from 2011 to 2012. More specifically, the May 2012 audit revealed that the NSA had abused its power to either accidentally or intentionally spy on Americans and green card holders 2,997 times in that time period. 

More recent reports show that the NSA bypasses several types of Internet encryption, and even used back-door access to tech giants like Google, Yahoo, Facebook, and Microsoft for three years to gain the information it wanted. Furthermore, Snowden said that the NSA spends about $250 million USD to diminish international encryption standards (as well as products) so that it can decode what it wants.

Source: Yahoo News





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Treason?
By amanojaku on 9/13/2013 11:24:33 AM , Rating: 6
The federal and local governments are committing treason by blocking transparency, violating privacy laws, and performing acts against the will of the people. Funny thing, though. We can't seem to get politicians held accountable as easily as they can abuse us.




RE: Treason?
By jRaskell on 9/13/2013 11:28:00 AM , Rating: 5
The sad reality is the bulk of voters just don't care.


RE: Treason?
By Argon18 on 9/13/2013 12:11:54 PM , Rating: 5
The bulk of the voters are too stupid to educate themselves on the issues of the day. How do you think Obama was elected? You can sell anything with enough media hype and celebrity endorsements...


RE: Treason?
By Schrag4 on 9/13/2013 12:20:23 PM , Rating: 5
When someone votes for the guy promising them something, it doesn't necessarily mean they're too stupid to realize that they're essentally stealing from others (their children more than anyone). Many are stupid, yes, but I believe it's more about a lack of integrity. There are many who are quite skilled at gaming the system for their benefit.


RE: Treason?
By Schadenfroh on 9/15/2013 12:49:13 PM , Rating: 4
There was a reason why originally only landowners (modern day equivalent of net income tax payers) were allowed to vote...


RE: Treason?
By hpglow on 9/13/2013 1:07:38 PM , Rating: 1
Yes because it is just Obama that is corrupt in the government. I hate to break it to you but the whole house and senate are bought as well regardless of party. They are all fed massive amounts of money from special interest groups. Our country is pretty much run by the most corrupt institutions like big corporations, the federal reserve, large corrupt churches, banks, the NRA, and unions. Who isn't represented in our government? Oh like the working person or 90% of the population.


RE: Treason?
By Jeffk464 on 9/13/2013 1:31:12 PM , Rating: 5
Any system where you are allowed to buy elections will eventually lead to corruption its a no brainer. Until you get big money out of elections this will never be fixed.


RE: Treason?
By ebakke on 9/13/2013 8:13:01 PM , Rating: 2
Any system where the majority's allowed to have their way with the minority will eventually lead to corruption; it's a no brainer. As soon as the majority learn they can just take from the minority, they'll keep hiring politicians to steal on their behalf.


RE: Treason?
By mmatis on 9/14/2013 11:59:12 AM , Rating: 2
More like any system where the "Law Enforcement" spit on their very oath of office to the Constitution with impunity is thoroughly corrupt. THEY are sworn to deal appropriately with these traitors, and are armed to do so. Instead, they grovel before whoever signs their paycheck, and then do WHATEVER they are told. A Praetorian Guard in the very worst sense of the term. Nothing more.


RE: Treason?
By Piiman on 9/14/2013 1:40:56 PM , Rating: 2
That's because Law enforcement types are like robot. If it’s against the law they enforce it. Unfortunately all these crooks have to do is pass a law that favors themselves and poof Law Enforcement is now on their side.


RE: Treason?
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/13, Rating: -1
RE: Treason?
By jeepga on 9/13/2013 8:02:16 PM , Rating: 3
While your statements are true, your point isn't relevant to who you replied to. Obama is the figurehead for this. And it's just one of a slew of his scandals.

Republican or democrat makes no difference. It's just a shell game to them to keep and grow control. "Hey little citizen look over here. Now look over here."


RE: Treason?
By Reclaimer77 on 9/14/2013 9:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
Now Obama is a "figurehead" for some GOP/Democrat conspiracy? Just lol.

Its amazing how some people cannot bring themselves to blame Obama for anything that happens under his Presidency.


RE: Treason?
By Skywalker123 on 9/15/2013 6:02:37 AM , Rating: 3
Obama is a puppet, that doesn't make him innocent.


RE: Treason?
By euclidean on 9/17/2013 10:48:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Now Obama is a "figurehead" for some GOP/Democrat conspiracy? Just lol.

Its amazing how some people cannot bring themselves to blame Obama for anything that happens was outed under his Presidency.


Doesn't give him a free pass, but putting all of the blame on 1 president, when the majority of this was started by the previous administration, and upheld by congress (committees made up of both parties were aware of what was going on) is just ridiculous.

Integrity:
quote:
: the quality of being honest and fair

: the state of being complete or whole


I would say that Snowden has more Integrity than many, if not all, of our pols & the companies who 'fear' going to prison by fighting back on these requests. If it wasn't for him, know one would know the scope (well, I feel we only know a small part of the scope of this so far...) of the NSA/CIA in this mess.

One thing you can always count on: Executives & Pols trading their integrity for more power/money. If they really cared, they would take the hit and fight back. To blame all of this on a single person (Obama) shows how blind you are to the problems at hand.


RE: Treason?
By michael67 on 9/14/2013 9:19:54 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
The bulk of the voters are too stupid to educate themselves on the issues of the day.

And how can they do that ?

When the news is delivered by companies like News Corp, that has run down every news outlet it got its hands on, from a serous news outlet to infotainment fluff papers, and news programs that purposely twist the truth(1).
(1) www.google.com/search?q=fox+news+purposely+twisting

Owned by the worst modern day robber baron(2) that has no problem running competitors in to the ground by stealing there intellectual property(3), and cry at politicians that there is stolen by consumers, and want if possible the dead senescent for those pesky consumers that dear to steal from him!
(2) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron
(3) www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/murdoch-tv-hackin g

That man has done more damage to modern society then Germany did in the 40s, at least most of the Nazis did it out a believe that they ware doing it for the Fatherland and improving the world (even do it was a very twisted one), Murdoch dose it because he is sociopath that gets of on controlling people, and getting even more money that he dose not need anymore.

Crappy links due to incompetence of the DT website designer that don't allow us to use normal links. (failing anti spam protocol)


RE: Treason?
By Piiman on 9/14/2013 1:36:57 PM , Rating: 4
"The bulk of the voters are too stupid to educate themselves on the issues of the day. How do you think Obama was elected? "

By educating ourselves about Mitt.


RE: Treason?
By Nfarce on 9/16/2013 11:36:47 PM , Rating: 2
And he's been such a hell of a success story, hasn't he?


RE: Treason?
By EyesWideOpen on 9/13/2013 12:05:39 PM , Rating: 5
A combination of factors all coming together at the same time is allowing the NSA to violate the constitution. This problem is greater than this single incident. The federal government is structured and growing its power over every little detail of life and they are hoping that we will look at this as just another little thing we will have to put up with. This situation is caused by both the far left and the far right sides of the political spectrum; because when they have the power, it will be their weapon to use as they see fit. There is a reason that the constitution is scared ground that you do not tread upon; because every step they take in violation is allowing them to take more. Old saying “Give them an inch and they will take a mile”. Here is another old saying “If you let a camel can stick its nose in the tent, it won’t be long before the entire camel is in the tent”. The security that they say they are protecting isn’t an easy job; they are just lazy and taking short cuts across the constitution. <End Rant>


RE: Treason?
By Jeffk464 on 9/13/2013 1:26:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm liking her more and more all the time. Smart, good looking, successful, and willing to stand up for people's rights.


RE: Treason?
By Jeffk464 on 9/13/2013 1:27:43 PM , Rating: 5
Marissa Mayer please keep this issue in the press.


RE: Treason?
By ebakke on 9/13/2013 8:16:31 PM , Rating: 2
These guys are standing up for people's rights. http://mashable.com/2013/08/09/silent-circle-lavab... They deserve your kudos.

Mayer's better than others, but she wasn't out there standing up for your rights until someone threatened her livelihood. Consider me a cynic, but it certainly seems like she's trying to protect her company (and thus, herself) far more than she's trying to protect you.


RE: Treason?
By 1prophet on 9/14/2013 12:42:48 PM , Rating: 4
Stand up for peoples rights?

She went to the back of the bus when she was told just like all the other cowardly CEO's.


Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By DaveLessnau on 9/13/2013 11:58:34 AM , Rating: 4
From wikipedia:

quote:
To avoid the abuses of the English law (including executions by Henry VIII of those who criticized his repeated marriages), treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows

Iva Toguri, known as Tokyo Rose, and Tomoya Kawakita were two Japanese Americans who were tried for treason after World War II. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.




RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By retrospooty on 9/13/2013 12:03:41 PM , Rating: 5
The problem with that is the US govt. doesn't care what the constitution says about this...


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By Schrag4 on 9/13/2013 12:23:44 PM , Rating: 3
Meh. Unless she's trying to change how things work over at the NSA, this is a PR move, plain and simple.


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By danjw1 on 9/13/2013 12:39:46 PM , Rating: 5
The government believes that disclosing sources and or methods is "giving them Aid and Comfort" to the enemy. That is the justification.

I believe that we have essentially surrendered to terrorists. The government is committing unconstitutional acts to "protect us". When we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear, then the terrorists win. And that is what is happening. The Unpatriotic Act, that was passed after the September 11th attacks, was a reaction to that fear. And that law is what the government uses to justify its behavior.

The the judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) are appointed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme court. It has been stacked with conservative judges that have served in presidential administrations by Chief Justice Roberts. It is like asking the fox to guard the hen house.


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By jido on 9/15/2013 9:54:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I believe that we have essentially surrendered to terrorists. The government is committing unconstitutional acts to "protect us". When we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear, then the terrorists win. And that is what is happening. The Unpatriotic Act, that was passed after the September 11th attacks, was a reaction to that fear. And that law is what the government uses to justify its behavior.

That.


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By fic2 on 9/13/2013 12:51:12 PM , Rating: 3
Somehow I just see the gov't throwing a pretty well known CEO into jail for non-compliance of an unconstitutional request. That certainly would have blown the cover of Prism way before anyone outside of gov't knew anything about it.

Unless, of course, they made up other charges to throw her in jail. This course of action by the gov't wouldn't surprise me at all.


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By fic2 on 9/13/2013 1:05:09 PM , Rating: 2
Should read "just don't see".


RE: Doesn't Yahoo have Lawyers?
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2013 1:48:37 PM , Rating: 2
Easy to say when you're not the one being bullied, threatened, and intimidated. The absolute power being wielded is too much for any company to stand up to.


Marissa Mayer has...
By Spookster on 9/13/2013 12:51:53 PM , Rating: 4
got to be the hottest CEO ever in the history of CEO's. Wait what were we talking about again?




RE: Marissa Mayer has...
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/13/2013 1:06:15 PM , Rating: 5
RE: Marissa Mayer has...
By Spookster on 9/13/2013 6:44:37 PM , Rating: 2
Oh my gosh make her stop laughing!!! Ok she's hot as long as she doesn't laugh.


RE: Marissa Mayer has...
By amanojaku on 9/13/2013 1:06:38 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe the hottest technology company CEO. I'm sure there were/are hotter CEOs in fashion, makeup, etc...

Like Dannia Ashe, the former porn model, stripper, and customer of mine. Her website was one of the most technologically advanced back 1999, running on clustered SGI servers with custom software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danni_Ashe

Anyway, back to the topic...


RE: Marissa Mayer has...
By Jeffk464 on 9/13/2013 1:44:01 PM , Rating: 4
Na Mayer is better.


RE: Marissa Mayer has...
By km9v on 9/16/2013 10:02:28 AM , Rating: 2
I concur.


By Cerin218 on 9/13/2013 6:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
She's a bundler for Obama. What in the H would she fear treason charges for? If the people ACTUALLY responsible for the actual treason on illegally spying didn't worry about jail why would she? Why would Obama jail her? 99 out of 100 stories on Yahoo's homepage are Obama/liberal agenda propaganda pieces.




By Solandri on 9/14/2013 1:44:49 AM , Rating: 2
I suspect this whole thing has progressed to the point where it's taken on a life of its own. And like the French Revolution, McCarthyism, and the Cultural Revolution, the most loyal followers and even the leaders of the movement themselves feared for their lives.

At least that's what I hope is happening. The alternative - that a significant fraction if not a majority of government workers actually believe this sort of warrant-less monitoring and eavesdropping is in some way justifiable under the Constitution - is just too frightening to consider.


Just say no
By PaFromFL on 9/14/2013 8:53:30 AM , Rating: 3
'"If you don't comply, it is treason," said Mayer. "We can't talk about it because it is classified. Releasing classified information is treason, and you are incarcerated. In terms of protecting our users, it makes more sense to work within the system.'

Anyone with a high school understanding of the Constitution knows that the real treason is what the spy agencies are doing. I've often wondered why the rich and powerful always go with the flow even though they have the intelligence and information to know they are harming society. I guess they just have more to lose. An opposite example is the suicide bomber who has very little to lose other than a miserable life. I'm guessing Snowden didn't enjoy his job and therefore was more willing to protect society (or seek glory).

I think Mayer is cynically exploiting these events for free PR to further her future business and political career. I would have been willing to contribute to her future campaign if she had just said no.




300
By hiscross on 9/15/2013 10:45:00 PM , Rating: 2
The Spartan's would rather die than give in to the Persians. Today only a few of disciplines of Christ are willing to do the same thing.




Patriot Act
By Hector2 on 9/19/2013 12:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
Just so you don't forget. This was all voted in by both parties with the Patriot Act during the Bush administration. I don't remember knowing specifics then, but I think we all knew generally what was being proposed with the "Patriot" Act and I don't recall any voter rebellion then. By the way, beware of politicians wrapping words like "patriot" around laws to get them passed.




hi
By amaryllis on 9/15/13, Rating: 0
HI
By dsosce on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
"Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?... So why the f*** doesn't it do that?" -- Steve Jobs













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