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Retail box with Target reciept for $479.99

eBay seller holding the elusive item
Target store breaks Xbox 360 Elite street date

The Xbox 360 Elite with its HDMI and 120GB hard drive aren’t set to officially launch until April 29, a lucky Chico, Calif. man was able to score one such console from a Target store. Pictures proving his purchase hit Photobucket and other various Internet forums.

Before long, the purchase made its way onto Internet auction site eBay, which the seller is advertising, “I have one BRAND NEW XBOX 360 Elite in my posession FACTORY SEALED!” and noting that the item is not a preorder and is ready to ship at the end of the auction. At time of publication, the Xbox 360 Elite sits at an $600 bid. The auction is set to end on April 23.

Assuming that the winning bidder selects the $99 next-day shipping option, the soonest he or she will have the still unreleased is on April 24, a full six days before the official launch.

Microsoft has not disclosed the number of Xbox 360 Elite units it plans to launch with, nor exactly if the console will be part of a distinct limited edition. The console, however, has apparently sold out of its initial allocation at Circuit City, who has replaced its preorder link with a “coming soon” button.

Update: A number of other 'early' Xbox 360 Elite consoles are now available on eBay, giving eager early birds a greater selection of worms.

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By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 10:03:22 AM , Rating: 2
so 699 for an elite shipped overnight (assuming its still $600)?

Hmm.. Or i could walk down to any local store and get a PS3 for 599. Or the other option wouldbe to wait a few weeks. There shouldnt be a shortage since most of the parts are already being made in quantity.

I'd be willing to bet that even the newer built premiums will have the same chips and HDMI capcabilities, although they may be turned off. Just becuase it should make production costs lower in the long run to buy one chip rather than 2 different ones. Beyond that, the packaging, 120GB (shouldnt be too hard to come by) and color what would make anyone think there would be a long term shortage?

RE: WHy?
By BZDTemp on 4/19/2007 10:17:46 AM , Rating: 2
Supposedly there is to be a limited production of these things. However I predict they will be replaced by a standard unit with the same features except perhaps with a different colour scheme. Like who cares anyway :-)

If they put out a super silent compact model it would be something else. I hate that my 360 sounds like a leaf blower and find my self turn up the volume to drown the fans + DVD drive even when playing racing games!

RE: WHy?
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 10:30:54 AM , Rating: 1
IMO its not elite until it include an HD or BR drive.

I have the HD Addon for mine and i actually like it being separate so i dont burn up the game drive as quickly. It could at least come with the addon if they are going to call it elite.

Hmm.. Wonder if there will be a black HD-DVD addon drive next.

RE: WHy?
By Verran on 4/19/2007 11:10:25 AM , Rating: 3
Meh. The higher capacity discs aren't necessary for game functionality and won't be for a long time. So why cram these HD drives down everyone's throats at the high prices of early-adoption when most people won't use them and don't even really want them?

Sony tried to force those high costs on consumers, and look where they are... clutching the third place bronze in a three man race.

HD drives should be add-ons for at least the next year, until the format war settles and market penetration lowers prices. I commend Microsoft on not forcing their customers to buy content they don't want.

RE: WHy?
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 11:51:19 AM , Rating: 2
Meh. The higher capacity discs aren't necessary for game functionality and won't be for a long time. So why cram these HD drives down everyone's throats at the high prices of early-adoption when most people won't use them and don't even really want them?

The Elite doesnt have much special on it beside the larger drive so it wouldnt really be forcing anything on anyone. Are you really telling me that if they gave you the addon for free with the elite that you would be upset?

Based on what their cost for the bigger drive probably is, they are making a killing on this new model.

RE: WHy?
By Verran on 4/19/2007 12:46:34 PM , Rating: 5
Oh, I see your point. I guess my mistake was assuming that your suggestion was in some way based on reality. But I guess few people live there these days...

Adding a $200 drive to the elite without changing the cost would effectly make then take a 42% price hit on each unit sold. But I guess you're right, it's not a true "elite" without it. In fact, I can't see how it's even legally possible to call it "elite" without including at least four controllers and headsets, plus 6 or 7 games. All while matching the price-point of the Wii, of course.

You keep bucking for that free $200 upgrade. Let us all know how that works out for you.

RE: WHy?
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 3:35:39 PM , Rating: 2
You're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.

If you dont agree with my point about it not being elite then fine, but you dont have to be a dick about it.

I think I make a valid point that if they were going to introduce I new more expensive sku that it should be better suited to compete with the PS3 as a true HD system. MS wants their system to be a media hub, but they seem to be missing a big chance while they are turning a profit.

Seriously they are probably making $100 on the Premium by now. So adding the 120GB drive, which probably cost not much more that the 20, since no one wants to make 20GB drives anymore. They added $179 to the price. They are making a profit on the HD-DVD drive already so with close to $279 to play with they could include it and they would still make money.

By the way I've had one for over a year now (and the HD-DVD addon for a few months), so I'm not anti 360.

RE: WHy?
By Verran on 4/19/2007 4:20:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, I'm using sarcasm to point out the flaws in your logic :)

First of all, you say they have $280 to "play with". So you apparently believe that they can build a 360 Elite for around $200? Sorry, but I don't believe that. Besides, you have to figure in more than the cost of the components, which a lot of people forget. There's marketing, packaging, and the killer... R+D. And despite the fact that you feel you're entitled to a free $200 upgrade, M$ wants to make some money off this venture at some point.

And as far as having to compete with Sony, well I think they're already doing a mighty fine job of that. They don't seem overly worried. And besides, they may not have an HD drive, but they STILL have the lower price by $120, and that's a big factor. And it's not like they don't have a drive, because they do, they're simply not forcing it on you like Sony.

Basically, my point still stands. You can ask for a free $200 HD-DVD drive til you're blue in the face, but it's not even close to a reality, and everyone knows it. I'd rather talk about suggestions that might actually happen.

RE: WHy?
By Belard on 4/19/2007 9:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
The difference in cost for a 20gb vs 120gb drive:

$30 (retail = Hitatchi 20GB, 1 choice on Newegg)
$75 (Retail = WD 120B, 11 choices on newegg)

Okay... the the price different between the PREM and Elite is $80. Considering how horrible 20GB is...

Bulk OEM drives maybe $15 for 20gb and $45 for 120gb. So M$ would be making a bit more profit from the revised Elite (HDMI / 120gb HD)

I think M$ is going to charge $180 for the 120GB HD upgrade module - as the 20GB module is an expensive $100 unit.

Keep in mind, the PS3 has a HD-BAY that is consumer servicable. You can go to newegg, pay $180 for the 200GB drive and stick it into the PS3. It will auto format the drive and prep it for use! (Then sell the 60GB to a PS3-20GB owner for $25 or so) Hence, a lot of people are buying the now-discontinued PS3/20GB version and replace the HD themselves.

Still at almost $500, the XB360E is $120 shy of the PS3 which includes wireless internet and controllers... and HD movie playback with BluRay. Once you start adding the ADD-ONs, the XBOX360 starts to easily become more expensive.

$600 = PS3/60GB HD / BluRay / Wireless internet & Controllers.

$770 = XBox360e-120gb HD / HD-DVD / Wireless internet.

RE: WHy?
By zombiexl on 4/20/2007 9:43:57 AM , Rating: 2
I remember a few years ago it was cheaper to get an 80GB drive that a 40GB drive. No company wants to make 20GB drives anymore, why do you think there is only 1 option on newegg?

I wonder however that now that the 120GB is avaiable if i can just trade my 20 out for a 120 and get it to work and see the full drive.. If they relase the 120 drive they will need to send an update so the 360 can use the space, right?

RE: WHy?
By Aikouka on 4/19/2007 11:02:50 AM , Rating: 2
I thought they said the Elite would be a standard SKU and not a limited edition?

I've also heard that there will supposedly be a sort of step-up-esque program from Microsoft... is there any merit in that rumor?

RE: WHy?
By zombiexl on 4/19/2007 11:56:39 AM , Rating: 2
I dont think MS has ever confirmed one way or another.

My guess is in 6 months this model becomes the premium, the 20GB model adds HDMI and becomes core and the core goes away. With the price points at the same place(399 and 299 respectively).

RE: WHy?
By Tegeril on 4/19/2007 12:17:24 PM , Rating: 2
Engadget previously reported that it would not be a limited edition.

Microsoft did make some marketing decisions since our sources spilled the beans on this thing though: it's not going to be limited edition, as we previously had. Instead, the Elite will be a permanent SKU, the third and top-tier Xbox device.

RE: WHy?
By Ard on 4/19/2007 2:38:16 PM , Rating: 2
The Elite is a permanent SKU.

RE: WHy?
By Tides on 4/22/2007 1:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
According to Gamespot: "The Elite will be a permanent addition to the Xbox 360 lineup, not a limited-edition offering as rumors have speculated."

Link to article:

By daftrok on 4/19/2007 12:23:08 PM , Rating: 2
Why, why, WHY did they keep the same components inside this damn thing?! Why didn't they use 65 nm architecture so that this fucking thing doesn't keep overheating? Why no internal wireless? (the adapter costs 100 dollars, 60 online) Why no frigging bluetooth (or bluetooth usb support)? Why in the HELL is this thing $479.99 when it costs at most 10 dollars for the integration of HDMI and around 10 dollars for the 120 GB HDD that they are selling to us for $179.99? How is this competitive? What were they thinking?!

RE: Ugh...
By BillyBatson on 4/19/2007 1:00:05 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you on this one. I want one of these but the cost is crazy! I currently have a premium AND i purchased the HD-DVD addon. I have not downloaded any content and don't think I will at least not for years to come so the larger HD is crap for me (when i buy elite and put my 20gb on it, who wants to buy my 120gb?!), and i HATE the color it jsut doesn't look good ont he 360 and would make it look tacky in my living room next to my TV etc. So the only reason I would be upgrading is for the HDMI (I have a 47" 1080p LCD) and it would cost me $179.99!? Wholly hell! I would be more willing to do this or recommend it to people if they did shrink to 65nm to reduce heat and fan noise. Also with it drawing less power maybe then they could shrink the external power brick a little? My HD External white won't look good on top of it and my extra controllers won't match =\
All in all though I will take mine back to Costco and get the Elite once they have it in stock

RE: Ugh...
By ATC on 4/19/2007 2:47:11 PM , Rating: 2
I completely agree with you. I am especially disappointed in the omission of 65nm chip after they promised a cooler and quieter 360. This ain't it I guess.

RE: Ugh...
By stubeck on 4/19/2007 3:22:47 PM , Rating: 2
65mm isn't ready. Where are you getting 120 GB 2.5inch SATA hard drives from? Cheapest price on NewEgg is $75 for a 120.

RE: Ugh...
By daftrok on 4/19/2007 8:54:15 PM , Rating: 2
Do you really think it costs Microsoft 75 dollars for a 120 GB 2.5" 5400 RPM HDD?

RE: Ugh...
By ATC on 4/20/2007 11:02:31 AM , Rating: 2
Last time I checked MSFT was not purchasing their bulk hardware from NewEgg.

By Souka on 4/19/2007 12:27:41 PM , Rating: 2
I see quite a number of Xbox 360 Elite's for sale on eBay....

The article makes it sound like only 1 was for sale... also, soonest ending auction is in 30min (10am 4/19) currently at $699

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By DigitalFreak on 4/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: Yippie
By bubbacub616 on 4/19/2007 12:23:30 PM , Rating: 2
the same can probably be said for your ancestors!

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