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Paris Hilton holds an Xbox 360 goody bag  (Source: MSN Entertainment)
Xbox 360 price drop spurs hardware sales prior to Halo 3 launch

NPD Group released last week its video game sales data for the month of August. To no one’s surprise, the month once again belonged to Nintendo. The Wii and the DS continued to be top sellers, with Nintendo’s home console holding top spot at 403,600 units and the portable selling 383,000 units. 

The big change for August was Microsoft’s surge that put the Xbox 360 past the PS2 and PSP. During the month, the Xbox 360 sold 276,000 units – a considerable jump from July’s 170,000.

Sales of the Xbox 360 were clearly boosted by a price cut of the console enacted by Microsoft on August 8. Retail prices were cut by as much as $50, making the Premium console $349, the Elite at $449 and the Core at $279.

Gamers looking to buy into the Xbox 360’s impressive fall line-up may have found the price drop reason enough to pick up Microsoft’s machine. Madden NFL 08 for Xbox 360, which released mid-August, became the top selling game for the month with 896,600 units, beating the second best-selling PS2 version by over 250,000. 

The anticipated release of Halo 3 is another driver of Xbox 360 sales. Microsoft’s marketing machine is firing in all cylinders, devoting millions of dollars into cross-promotions to reach non-traditional gaming channels. As a first, 7-11 convenience stores are taking pre-orders for Halo 3 and will be selling the game at 12:01 A.M. on September 25. While at 7-11, gamers may also purchase Game Fuel, a limited-time Mountain Dew drink branded with Master Chief.

Sony’s hardware made up the latter half of NPD Groups sales list. The PlayStation 2 remained Sony’s top seller with 202,000 sold. The PSP, even only a month shy of release of the slimmer, lighter hardware managed to move 151,200 units. The PlayStation 3 maintained a second month of six-digit sales, with 130,600 sold.



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360 outsells PS3 two to one
By mcnabney on 9/18/2007 11:18:10 PM , Rating: 4
And the PS3 continues to underperform.




RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By ruibing on 9/18/2007 11:26:24 PM , Rating: 1
It is hard to say in August and September with the Halo 3 hype. The main contest is in November and December between PS3 and 360, when all the preholiday games have been introduced. And we need to look at both U.S. and Japan.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By rudy on 9/18/2007 11:48:58 PM , Rating: 5
Is Christmas a big holiday in Japan?


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By smitty3268 on 9/19/2007 1:26:37 AM , Rating: 2
Sort of, the big holiday is actually New Years and Christmas gets carried along for the ride - more as a retailers thing, though, than something with any religious significance.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 9/19/2007 7:39:24 AM , Rating: 5
As if Santa Clause and presents in the U.S. has anything to do with religion....


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By Spivonious on 9/19/2007 8:49:47 AM , Rating: 2
You mean Jesus and Santa aren't related????? My world has been shattered :(


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By clovell on 9/19/2007 10:41:52 AM , Rating: 3
Well, without religion, we wouldn't have St. Nicholas (aka Santa Claus)...


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By Locutus465 on 9/19/2007 10:50:13 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps you're not very religious? St. Nicholas isn't a fairy tale, he's a very real sait that lived long long ago. He didn't fly around in a slay powered by 8 tiny raindeer, but he did exist.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By killerroach on 9/19/2007 9:21:57 AM , Rating: 2
Although the Japanese are pretty good at patching together a curious amalgam of cultural and religious traditions... I remember one person using the analogy that, in terms of customs, it wasn't unusual in parts of Japan to be "raised Shinto, married Christian, and buried Buddhist". To each their own.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By afkrotch on 9/20/2007 8:23:45 PM , Rating: 2
Christmas time is big for sales. New Years is big for those stupid bundled bags. Every New Years in just about every store, they will create a bundled bag. The bag is usually paper and sealed, so you cannot see what's inside. They will cram all the junk that did sell into them and sell them off for a semi-reasonable price.

Expect to see a gift bag of like, three Xbox 360s in them, as those aren't selling worth crap in Japan.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By therealnickdanger on 9/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By FITCamaro on 9/19/2007 11:46:24 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, for their gaming business, Sony is doing better since its selling two different products whose combined sales out pace Microsoft's.

But thats like saying Ford is doing better than GM because they sell more cars total than just the single Chevy brand of GM.


RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By therealnickdanger on 9/19/07, Rating: 0
RE: 360 outsells PS3 two to one
By afkrotch on 9/20/2007 8:38:06 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, you shouldn't look at the forest while the trees are being planted, as you don't know what's going to happen in the future.

The console wars have barely started. Maybe Nintendo will replace it's Wii in a couple of years with something more updated. Taking an approach more reminiscent of their handhelds. This leads to them selling millions more consoles and games, while making tons of money. With each new Wii revision, it not only supports all the old games, but adds in new features. 1080p, HDMI, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, USB3.0, etc.

Maybe Microsoft will spend billions to snatch exclusives in Japan. This leads to more Japanese buying the console and more Japanese developers jumping onto the 360. Microsoft jumps past 65nm and pushed a new 45nm Xenon and Xenos procs. This alleviates all RROD issues and lowers production costs.

Maybe Sony ends up finding a way to greatly reduce production costs of the PS3 and ends up being able to give a $250 price drop on the machine, putting it well below the Xbox 360 Premium and Elite prices. This leads to 6 million consoles being sold in a couple months and over 15 million in 1/2 a year.

Course, who's to say what will happen. Not me. All I know is that I enjoy games on both my Xbox 360 and PS3. Nothing worthwhile to me for the Wii, so I haven't bothered getting it.


By SaySomeThingOrDIE on 9/22/2007 4:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but how many defected X360 are there?!!
this is one of my posting.

The problem is that about 68+% of all X360 manufactured from 2005-2007(February)[MS only sold 11+ million X360], all factor in this "recall" (call it whatever, extended 3 year warranty or send it back..) I found there's been complaints about: Faulty DVD player(about 10+ million games own by consumers have been scatched), Hardward Failure, HardDrive defect (HD failure, software is mostly to blame.), video/audio defect (faulty connection to the motherboard and other things), overheating (happens to all consoles when you play for 18 hours straight. But with X360, it's still a computer, which produce 3+ time more heat than a PS2,PS3; 8+ time more than a Gcube/WII.)

The probability that MS will spend $3+ billion on 4-5 million X360 sold during 2005-2007. MS was receiving about 2,500 X360 a day for the the past year. And that's about 2.4+ million console with defect. And there's no doubt that there's several class action suits against MS right now.


Paris?
By MonkeyPaw on 9/18/2007 11:27:58 PM , Rating: 5
I wonder what was really in that "goody" bag? There's no way that Paris Hilton could hold up a real boxed 360 console--those things weigh more than she does.




RE: Paris?
By chrispyski on 9/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: Paris?
By Avatar28 on 9/19/2007 2:08:21 AM , Rating: 3
Hmm, being Paris Hilton I would say probably a bottle of booze and maybe a vial of coke or something. :)


RE: Paris?
By Mithan on 9/19/2007 7:57:56 AM , Rating: 4
What is in the bag?

A brain would be cool.


RE: Paris?
By anonymo on 9/19/2007 8:43:06 AM , Rating: 2
It's obviously a 360, you can see she's struggling to hold it up for the camera. Plus after the picture someone most definitely relieved her of the burden.


RE: Paris?
By BladeVenom on 9/19/2007 9:43:52 AM , Rating: 5
You know she just got it for the rumble controller.


RE: Paris?
By FITCamaro on 9/19/2007 11:36:52 AM , Rating: 2
Did someone punch her in the face when she was in prison? She's uglier now than ever before.


RE: Paris?
By 9nails on 9/20/2007 4:49:12 AM , Rating: 2
It's not a good photo, but I see your point. I can easily picture her as that slutty old woman who tries to pick-up the young men at the wedding. The photo suggests, "Want to rumble with Na-na?"


RE: Paris?
By erikejw on 9/21/2007 1:13:12 PM , Rating: 2
Probably condoms and some sex gears otherwise she'd never accept it. Maybe a camera to shoot it too.


Attach Rates ??
By ZimZum on 9/18/2007 11:31:00 PM , Rating: 2
I'd like to see some up to date info on the Software attach rates of the 3 next gen consoles. Especially for the Wii. Even though Software sales probably aren't as critical for Nintendo since they are the only ones who actually manage to turn a profit on console sales.




RE: Attach Rates ??
By ajfink on 9/19/2007 12:53:10 AM , Rating: 3
I'm not positive, but I think Ars Technica had a report that the 360's attach rate was somewhere around eight (8) per console. Microsoft is only mildly happy about this, since it means that they're selling plenty of games per console but that they're only reaching the typical "gamer" demographic.

Not sure about the PS3 / Wii, but I wouldn't think they'd be as high simply due to the fact they haven't been out as long.


RE: Attach Rates ??
By Bonrock on 9/19/2007 1:00:26 AM , Rating: 2
"Not sure about the PS3 / Wii, but I wouldn't think they'd be as high simply due to the fact they haven't been out as long."

Also because one year after its release, the PS3 still doesn't have a single must-play game...


RE: Attach Rates ??
By RubberJohnny on 9/19/2007 3:07:27 AM , Rating: 2
How about warhawk? It looks pretty good for a multiplayer romp...

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/09...


RE: Attach Rates ??
By anonymo on 9/19/2007 8:40:56 AM , Rating: 2
As a heavy gamer, Warhawk is the first game that actually entices me to consider a PS3, so Sony has one title.


RE: Attach Rates ??
By theflux on 9/19/2007 11:33:20 AM , Rating: 2
Funny you mention that, since the same was true of the 360 before Gears of War.


RE: Attach Rates ??
By FITCamaro on 9/19/2007 11:51:09 AM , Rating: 2
Ah but you see the difference is that Gears of War was accepted by the majority as an excellent, fun game. Warhawk is a game for the niche market of people who only want an online multiplayer game. It has no single player of any consequence while Gears of War is insanely good (and its multiplayer is quite fun too). Warhawk has gotten poor reviews and feeds solely off the PS3s lack of any other titles to buy instead of it. I don't know about you, but I haven't heard that Warhawk's sales have been anything to get excited about.


RE: Attach Rates ??
By peritusONE on 9/19/2007 4:27:24 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Funny you mention that, since the same was true of the 360 before Gears of War.

Wrong. Ghost Recon Advanced Warfigher and Oblivion were a couple of huge next-gen titles that came out very shortly after the console's launch.


RE: Attach Rates ??
By afkrotch on 9/20/2007 8:45:20 PM , Rating: 2
Resistance wasn't good? I enjoyed that game. Gears of War doesn't have me playing quite as often. Not saying that it's a bad game, but the story doesn't keep me as interested, so I'm finding that I only play it an hour at a time, if not less.


The numbers don't match up
By webdawg77 on 9/19/2007 10:04:08 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
NPD Group released last week its video game sales data for the month of August. To no one’s surprise, the month once again belonged to Nintendo. The Wii and the DS continued to be top sellers, with Nintendo’s home console holding top spot at 403,600 units and the portable selling 383,000 units.


From the article

http://www.dailytech.com/Wii+Won+Report+Confirms+N...

the Wii sold 475,000 in August, a difference of 71,400 or a percentage based on 403,600 of 17.7%

quote:
The big change for August was Microsoft’s surge that put the Xbox 360 past the PS2 and PSP. During the month, the Xbox 360 sold 276,000 units – a considerable jump from July’s 170,000.


From the article

http://www.dailytech.com/Wii+Won+Report+Confirms+N...

the 360 sold 180,000 in August, a difference of 96,000 or a percentage based on 276,000 of -34.8%.

And, in that article, the PS3 only sold 1,000 less than the 360 in August.

My point is that you can't trust numbers from sales until several months afterwards. There are too many inconsistencies.




RE: The numbers don't match up
By omnicronx on 9/19/2007 12:16:10 PM , Rating: 2
I think you are looking at two sets of numbers here, one of for estimated consoles actually sold, one is for estimated consoles shipped (may or may not be sold)


By SigmaHyperion on 9/19/2007 12:27:55 PM , Rating: 2
Actually both stories claim to use retail sales data. In fact the one linked to claims to use the data from this story (NPD retail data) as one of its sources.


RE: The numbers don't match up
By DFranch on 9/19/2007 12:23:57 PM , Rating: 2
Did you miss a little something in your own link?

quote:
The Financial Times, has analyzed worldwide sales data through July, and through August for Japan


the financial times only has worldwide sales figures through July worldwide, and through August for japan. Which means their August numbers must be an estimate. It would explain the asterisk for August in the chart.


RE: The numbers don't match up
By webdawg77 on 9/19/2007 1:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but part of the point was how were the estimates so skewed in different directions for each? How could they have estimated the Wii selling so many more than it actually did? And vice versa for the 360. I'm not an industry analyst. But, if I was off by over 1/6 (Wii) and 1/3 (360) on estimates then how long would I have my job?


September purchase here
By Rampage on 9/18/2007 11:22:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm in with the September buyers. I haven't been this excited about a console since... ever.
Great system, great games and a great time! This is gonna be HUGE! Xbox 360 FTW




RE: September purchase here
By slunkius on 9/19/2007 1:00:06 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
This is gonna be HUGE!


you sound like those spam letters urging to buy stocks which are about to explode


RE: September purchase here
By eyebeeemmpawn on 9/19/2007 10:12:18 AM , Rating: 2
Ballmer? is that you???


RE: September purchase here
By Locutus465 on 9/19/2007 11:06:05 AM , Rating: 2
Someone being exceited about x-box means they're Steve Ballmer somehow? Does that mean anyone who gets excited about PS3 is automatically Howard Stinger?

Or perhaps there are just people out there to whom the x-box really appeals (kind of like there are people who find the PS3 or Wii to be exciting game systems).

Personally I think the x-box 360 is a great system over all. I'm liking it as much for it's HD media functions as I am the games. In fact if you happen to own a Wii as well (like I do) then you might find that the media functions really help complament the more practical functions of the wii (forcast channel, news channel) to give you a really nifty set of tools for your home theater.


Question?
By Bioniccrackmonk on 9/19/2007 9:31:38 AM , Rating: 1
Does anyone know if the 360's that are being sold have been redesigned or have an upgraded heatsink in them? If not, I would imagine all these people buying it for Halo 3 will probably be playing their new consoles a lot and this will probably be a good chance to see what the true failure rates are. Just a thought.




RE: Question?
By FITCamaro on 9/19/2007 11:39:25 AM , Rating: 1
65nm consoles could already be on the shelves. But the new HDMI equipped Premiums have the same upgraded heatsink design and motherboard as the Elite's. So yes.


RE: Question?
By Locutus465 on 9/19/2007 11:48:24 AM , Rating: 2
Smart shoppers are specifically looking for the HDMI version of the premium (or an elite)... This version has the upgraded heatsink, which thus far (true it hasn't been long) seems to have put a hault to RROD. I can tell you that my HDMI permium version of the console seems to not run exessivly hot.


RE: Question?
By Praze on 9/19/2007 6:57:20 PM , Rating: 2
All of the HDMI equipped 360's do have the new heatsink for the GPU, however, it is still questionable wether or not the 65nm shrink will have any affect on the RROD pandemic. The 65nm shrink is on the CPU, while the upgraded heatsink is on the GPU. While this doesnt mean that the problem isnt solved, by no means, it just means there's still potential for the RROD. I'd like to see this fault explained in detail through a Microsoft release, personally. Can anyone back this up or shed more light?


False Advertising
By Screwuhippie on 9/19/2007 10:29:01 AM , Rating: 4
Seriously though ... that Mt. Dew Game Fuel slurpee doesn't work ... I dumped 3 40oz Slurpee's full of that stuff on my 360 and it still work run. Maybe I should read the instructions first ...




Props to the 360 side of the house...
By Praze on 9/19/2007 7:15:35 PM , Rating: 2
Who knew that the release of Halo for Xbox1 would have started such a domino effect that it would drive sales figures for generations of consoles to come... I generally side with the sony consoles when it comes to my consumer dollars, but Halo 3 gets respect points with me for the 360 camp regardless. Way to go Bungie...




By slickr on 9/19/2007 11:06:10 PM , Rating: 2
You would think that Sony and Microsoft learned something from the years of selling consoles but they heaven't. What sells consoles is not the hardware in it, its the games what sells them. Ofcourse movie playability and few extra functions aren't bad but are not that essential.
Consoles are looking to get into the PC field as much as possible but forgeting that they are originally designed for playing games. For example even though the WII is only for games and has no powerful graphic chip it still outsells the competition. People like cheap gaming console they can play games on. If they wanted to watch movies, download content, surf the internet and create own profiles they would just use their PC.
This is where Sony failed most, beacose of their market domination with the PS and PS2 they forgot the roots of the gaming console. But the company that started all this is actually Microsoft, in an effort to gain more market share they pumped up the graphics and processing power of theit Xbox360 and added more functionality for it. Sony like blinded people took the bait and went for expensive feature rich and powerful console rather than just making a better gaming console.
They may have realised by now or may have not but its certain that they are looking to making more games their own console only.




The title is incorrect
By cheetah2k on 9/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: The title is incorrect
By darkpuppet on 9/19/07, Rating: -1
By neothe0ne on 9/18/2007 11:27:44 PM , Rating: 3
Where do you see Microsoft publicizing this? NPD Group releases monthly sales in North America and has nothing to do with Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo.


By rudy on 9/18/2007 11:52:37 PM , Rating: 2
When has a review ever not been bias? I mean the guys who review console games usually are not all that adept with PC games. It's just the way it is. Yes Halo is way over hyped I was laughing at their video where they were calling jump pads from a decade ago man cannons and talking like it was some amazing new thing. But it works quite well expect to see Halo 3 break new records and eventually eclipse PC deathmatch games as the big money competitions.


By troublesome08 on 9/19/2007 2:03:07 AM , Rating: 2
Way Over-hyped is right, but it seems to be working, they've probably already turned a profit on pre-orders alone...

I'm curious to see how many 360 systems get sold this holiday season as opposed to PS3, it should be interesting


By rdeegvainl on 9/19/2007 2:28:08 AM , Rating: 2
I'm curious as to which system will put something out that I want, cause until then I won't buy any of the systems. poor me, I'm a niche market kind of guy is a "sell to the highest denominator" world


By PurdueRy on 9/19/2007 12:45:13 AM , Rating: 4
Um...look at the numbers...the Wii sells more than the DS


By rdeegvainl on 9/19/2007 2:29:18 AM , Rating: 2
Did you not READ, the XBOX 360 is now selling more than the PS2, and is Double the price.


By mdogs444 on 9/19/2007 8:43:46 AM , Rating: 1
First off, its called the "Shuffle", not the Shuttle.

Second, its obvious that you do NOT have a PhD if you are comparing sales figures of a mid size Honda Accord/Toyota Camry to a Corvette/Aston Martin.

If you are going to compare, you might as well compare things in the same category.

Honda Accord/Toyota Camry vs. Chevy Impala/Ford Fusion, or something similar.

Ipod Shuffle is not in the same category as the nano at all. Compare like products in the same category.


By wallijonn on 9/19/2007 11:18:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I bet a bunch of people buy one and never buy a single game for it and just play the pack in stuff.


And Nintendo would still be happy. It is no different than someone buying a 360 or PS3 for one single game. I feel that anyone who buys a Wii is more likely to rent a Wii game than buy it. After all, they may be more cost conscious. If it is a matter of a 10 hour game, why not rent it and beat it on a weekend?


By 9nails on 9/20/2007 5:10:32 AM , Rating: 2
The Wii packed in game is quite fun in fact! The Wii was a good purchase for my family. We've enjoyed it since November. And I bought it for the games, both retro - through the virtual console, and the new titles. And especially for the fact that new titles are $10 - $20 cheaper than on the other console systems. So, it's not the whole fad thing, it's just a smarter purchase.

I do plan to buy an Xbox 360 as a second console to the Wii. Mostly because of "the Halo effect", but also for the Xbox Live Video.


Reality check
By wordsworm on 9/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: Reality check
By mdogs444 on 9/19/2007 8:39:27 AM , Rating: 4
Why is that a reality check? Your saying that its time to come to terms that two consoles combined by a manufacturer are selling more than one console of a different manafacturer? If the regular xbox was still available with all its games at under $100, im sure those would sell too. But Microsoft doesn't need to. Their console is actually priced right to sell from the start.

Stupid.


RE: Reality check
By mdogs444 on 9/19/2007 8:39:29 AM , Rating: 2
Why is that a reality check? Your saying that its time to come to terms that two consoles combined by a manufacturer are selling more than one console of a different manafacturer? If the regular xbox was still available with all its games at under $100, im sure those would sell too. But Microsoft doesn't need to. Their console is actually priced right to sell from the start.

Stupid.


RE: Reality check
By anonymo on 9/19/2007 8:59:41 AM , Rating: 2
Time for your reality check.

Sure the PS2 and PS3 combined outsold the 360 but how relevant is that?

The PS2 outsold the PS3 and considering what you get with the PS3 that is just sad. Even worse the Wii outsold both the PS2 and the PS3 combined. Considering the PS2 is nearly 8 years old and has many iterations it is no wonder it has sold so many copies. It deserves the recognition (to a degree) but to use that in an argument to put down the 360 for overtaking it in current monthly sales is just a weak attempt at a reality check.


RE: Reality check
By ruibing on 9/19/2007 11:34:02 AM , Rating: 1
A better reality check is that those who bought a PS3 didn't buy a PS2 because a PS3 can do everything a PS2 can. You combine them when you are talking about PS2s. Since I bought my PS3, I've only got Warhawk and some PSN games, but I've bought over two dozen PS2 games, costing over $300 dollars.

What is really sad is the fact that the 360 is relieved that they've outsold a product about a decade old.

And really, Halo 3 is the driving force for August and September sales for the 360. The next batch of exclusive games for the PS3 will hit October and November. The matchup between the two consoles for the holiday season will be interesting:

Halo 3
Mass Effect
Lost Odessey
Fable 2
GTR4
Eternal Sonata (for this holiday season at least)

vs

Haze
Heavenly Sword
Warhawk
Ratchet & Clan
GT5 Prologue
Uncharted
UT3 (for this holiday at least)


RE: Reality check
By FITCamaro on 9/19/2007 11:42:08 AM , Rating: 3
Except Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are already out and both have gotten rather lackluster ratings. Neither lived up to the hype.

And you forgot BioShock on the 360.


RE: Reality check
By ruibing on 9/19/2007 1:40:19 PM , Rating: 2
Bioshock is available on PC, so its not an exclusive for the 360.


RE: Reality check
By SigmaHyperion on 9/19/2007 12:05:43 PM , Rating: 2
Those are some decent games that the PS3 has coming out, but none are the type of game that has millions of people salivating for it to come out with the exception of GT5: Prologue and to a much lesser extent the new Ratchet and Clank. Unless Haze or Uncharted can pull something out of their sleeve at the last minute I don't see them helping much in selling a lot of consoles.

And, for all the hardware that the GT series has sold over the years, I don't think what amounts to a demo downloaded off PGN, is going to move many consoles. The vast majority of consumers, even amongst those that like the GT series, aren't going to know about it if they don't see it in the store when they're there. They're not going to know anything about some demo that's available for them to download.

Not picking on just the PS3 -- from your list I also don't think Lost Odyssey and definitely Eternal Sonata are going to move a lot of hardware either. The new Ace Combat(which MS 'stole' from Sony) will likely outsell both.

Who knows, maybe the relative obscurity of some of the titles the PS3 is coming out with this holiday season will actually help them. Lord knows that the titles that Sony marketed the hell out of have been somewhat dissapointing. Or, in the case of Lair, a complete train wreck.


RE: Reality check
By ruibing on 9/19/2007 1:52:24 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, you're right, I did forget Ace Combat. I have one of the earlier ones on PS2 and it was pretty good. My two main favorites from the 360 are actually Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata (I'm a RPG fan).

The main problem for the new games is that most are new IPs. I think Haze and Uncharted can become a very popular franchise, especially Uncharted. I've read that GT5 Prologue will be available on PSN and retailers. It will function as the full game.

I'm not saying the PS3 titles are better or worse, I just wanted to point out that they are on level with the new 360 titles now. With a better marketing campaign (and maybe a price drop), the PS3 should continue to perform better and better.


RE: Reality check
By just4U on 9/19/2007 11:51:25 PM , Rating: 2
What is really sad is the fact that the 360 is relieved that they've outsold a product about a decade old.

The PS2 is the standard that everyone goes by.. did it not win that generations console war? has it not been so popular that it's still selling well 8 years later? I'd be glad to considering how many consoles the PS2 still sells. Altho I agree with another poster. If I were inclined to play PS2 games... I'd probably pick up a PS3 instead for future proof considerations.

As to this whole console war talk and such I look at it this way. Microsoft has to be mildly pleased that their doing fairly well in this area. Maybe not quite where they want to be but it's moving along. Nintendo must be just tickled pink right now. I know I would be in their shoes. They've got a nice product that appeals to many.(Cheers to them, I've always liked Nintendo) Then there is Sony. Like other's I think they will pick up steam with their latest gen console as time goes by. I don't think they can reasonably expect the same level of success as they had with the PS2 as the rules have changed somewhat since then. But, I am sure it will do fine over the long haul.


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