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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer introduces Windows Phone 7 in New York City.  (Source: Microsoft)

Microsoft showed off 9 handsets which will available at next month's launch (on November 8 in the U.S.).  (Source: Microsoft)
We detail the platform's competitive mix of hardware and software

Microsoft was live in New York City this morning presenting (video) its brand new Windows Phone 7 smartphone operating system, and while there are a few minor rough edges the results look quite impressive.  Below we outline a quick overview of the platform and then dive into hardware and software details.

Overview

Windows Phone 7 enters a market in which Android is the rising star and a pair of veteran players (Apple and RIM) cling to large market shares, thanks to unique niches (business, entertainment).  Having seen the Windows Phone 7 in action and contrasting the experience to Android, iOS, and BlackBerry OS, we feel the that WP7 has the potential to do very well.

It may be too early to say for sure, but Microsoft's decision to redesign the interface from the ground up seems a very wise one.  Scrapping the stale Windows Mobile 6.5, the company now has a fast, intuitive-seeming interface laid over a solid set of hardware and software.

The OS really shines at business productivity, so we could see it snatching some marketshare from RIM among the business-minded.  The phone also seems very slick in terms of entertainment and social connectivity.  This may help it to compete with Android and Apple's iOS, or at least differentiate itself as more versatile than the RIM's BlackBerry phones.

Windows Phone 7 Launches on November 8th in the U.S., as previously rumored.  In addition, most WP7 phones will be available for $199.99 with new 2-year contract.  

In the U.S. T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint have all be confirmed as launch partners (Verizon will likely have WP7 handsets as well, but was not mentioned specifically).  Abroad, Vodafone (UK) and Orange (France) were among the carriers mentioned in Microsoft's presentation.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer at the release event commented, "I've been looking forward to this day for some time I say."

We can see why.  Windows Phone 7 is pretty revolutionary in that it's definitely a "different kind of phone" as Microsoft's presentation billed it, in terms of interface at least.  And while it remains to be seen how competitive it can truly be, it seems a vast leap from the weak Windows Mobile experience.

Hardware

At the launch event, Microsoft stated that there would be nine handsets available at launch and mentioned explicitly four partners -- Dell, Samsung, LG, HTC.  A fifth hardware partner, ASUSTek, was previously announced by Microsoft, but was not discussed at the presentation.

AT&T CEO of AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets was on hand to personally introduce the three WP7 handsets that will be available on his network at launch.

First up is the LG Quantum.  AT&T's WP7 slider, the Quantum packs a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, a 3.5-inch capacitive touch screen, 16 GB of flash memory, and a QWERTY keyboard.  

The second handset shown was the HTC Surround, a phone similar to the HTC EVO geared towards the "media and gaming enthusiast".  Like the EVO, the phone packs a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon, but it packs a slightly smaller 3.8-inch touch screen and lower resolution 5 megapixel camera.  Like the EVO it will feature a kickstand, but unlike the EVO it will feature 16 GB of flash instead of microSD expansion (it's possible this will be included, but it wasn't mentioned).  But the handset does have one very cool feature that differentiates it from the EVO -- it is the first phone to have dual surround sound speakers (made by Dolby Labs), which slide up out of the central body.

Last, but not least, is the Samsung Focus, which AT&T claims has "best looking screen on any Windows phone".  The 4-inch screen uses Samsung's SuperIM OLED technology.  It packs a 1 GHz Snapdragon, a 5 MP camera, and a slightly smaller 8 GB of flash memory.

If you've noticed a trend (1 GHz processors) in these models, it's because Microsoft's hardware spec requires all WP7 handsets to have a 1 GHz processor.  That's a bit different than Android's approach.  It may hurt Microsoft among entry level buyers, but on the other hand it may provide WP7 users with a better, more consistent experience.

A couple of other handsets were not shown off at the release event, but have popped online.  

T-Mobile will be getting the HTC Mozart, a 8MP camera with Xenon flash, one-speaker Dolby Mobile with SRS Wow HD for "virtual surround sound", and 8 GB of flash storage.  It's also getting the beastly HTC 7 HD7, a 4.3-inche device featuring 16GB of storage and a 5MP camera.  The carrier also has a 4.1-inch ruggedized vertical slider, the Dell Venue Pro.

Sprint is getting its own slider, dubbed the HTC 7 Pro.  This handset features a 1GHz Snapdragon processor and 16 GB of storage.

Looking at the seven revealed WP7 handsets in summary, it seems that they are quite consistent on a hardware basis with the chief difference being the inclusion of a keyboard, size of the flash memory, screen size, camera resolution, and surround sound (or lack there of).

Looking at the hardware overall, if microSD is indeed not supported, it will be quite disappointing.  Lack of expandable memory is a key downside for Apple and a key upside for Google's Android.  

Otherwise, the hardware platform looks to be very competitive with Android handsets, with many models having specs superior to those of the Apple iPhone 4.

Software

If there was one compelling reason to buy a WP7 handset it would have to be the interface.

Microsoft has deeply integrated search via Bing into the interface and has designed a quick and intuitive UI.  Looking at the home screen, you will notice many square tiles known as Hubs.  Many of the tiles seem intuitive -- Messages, Phone Calls, Email, etc.  While these may be similar to icons in other smartphone operating systems, they're a bit different in that they're all animated.  In this respect, they're perhaps most similar to Android's widgets.

You can turn your contacts into a tile on the homepage sprawl.  You can also unpin any tile by simply touching, holding, then clicking the upper right corner of the tile.  This lays to rest a false rumor that the homescreen in WP7 would not be customizable.  You can move tiles by then touching, holding, and dragging.

In terms of business functionality, the phone includes some slick features.  For example, your next appointment shows up on the home screen so you don't even have to unlock your phone.  Emails suggesting appointments come with a one-touch option to check for conflicts.  You can sync appointments from Exchange servers, Yahoo Mail, Gmail, Hotmail, and more.

Email brings us to another key point -- typing.  Typing looks to be a pretty fast experience as Microsoft includes a pretty souped up autocorrect.  Typing quick bursts of a few sentences looks to be possibly a bit faster than in Android, and on par with Apple's leading interface in this department.  Of course, once you've scribbled out a few sentences, you'll often have to go back and tweak the autocorrections.  Microsoft has a few good ideas here -- for example the original word that was autocorrected from is stored and can be reverted.

Also involved with the email experience is addresses.  Addresses can be clicked to bring up Bing Maps.  These maps tell you the best way to get there (walking/driving), let you get directions, and even show you satellite views.

Search can be done in two ways.  First you can press and hold the start button and speak to the phone.  The audio is transmitted to Microsoft's servers and Microsoft's "Tell Me" backend then tries to parse it into a search query.  A second approach is to press the search button and then type in the Bing search bar that pops up.

Microsoft showed off a mobile version of Powerpoint -- part of a WP7 Office suite.  Sadly, copy and paste has been confirmed to be absent, so editing in mobile Word or Powerpoint will likely be an onerous task.  Microsoft also showed off OneNote -- the WP7 version of its Office note-taking software -- and demonstrated how it syncs your notes to the cloud.  These notes can be accessed from anywhere on the internet.

Picture-taking on the phone looks a bit more intuitive that in Android.  If you press the camera button the phone automatically wakes up and shoots, no unlocking required.  We could see this as causing some unwanted "pocket pictures", but then again it should offer faster photos.  Photos can be set to automatically upload to cloud storage on sites like Facebook.

Look at Music and Videos, the interface is very similar to Zune's.  Third parties can design plug-ins that offer up new elements in this plug.  Slacker Radio and YouTube were among those shown in the presentation.

Turning to the "People" tab, Microsoft syncs contacts from multiple places -- Facebook, Gmail, Exchange, and more.  The second you log in one of these accounts, the syncing process starts.  This may be a bit problematic for some.  Say you have 500 Facebook friends, but most of those are high school classmates and college friends you only vaguely knew.  ALL of them will be added to your phone's contacts.  So you might want to be wary of what accounts you log into (i.e. watch out for Facebook) unless Microsoft has some sort filtering scheme that it hasn't revealed yet.

Turning last to games, the phone should offer an Xbox Live-like experience, with Gaming invites, avatars, multiplayer gaming, and more.  Microsoft showed off a couple titles, including a WP7-version of EA's The Sims.

In terms of apps, it's to be expected that Microsoft won't have as huge a catalog as Android or Apple at launch.  However, it did show off some cool third party apps.  For example AT&T will be offering its customers a Uverse app, which will allow you to watch TV shows on the go.  Non-Uverse subscribers can pay a "small [monthly] fee" according to Mr. de la Vega to access this option.

One final note -- it appears that multitasking will be available in some form (at least via notifications) given the stream of live feeds from multiple apps on the home screen.  However, Microsoft did not mention that true multitasking (freely switchable-apps) would be present.  Further no third party app tiles were shown to be updating with live feeds, so it seems likely that the previous rumor that third-party multitasking would not initially be included may be true.



Looking at the demonstrated software (operating system, third-party) in overview, Microsoft clearly will lag behind Apple and Google in volume, but it makes up for it somewhat in quality.  The only egregious omission hear is copy and paste, and that will be coming early 2011 according to Microsoft.  Otherwise, the interface looks polished and the software seems very business/connectivity friendly.

Conclusions

There's the bad (lack of microSD, no copy and paste) and there's the good (the interface, the wide array of hardware options, and the cross-carrier availability) when it comes to Windows Phone 7.

Ultimately, while Microsoft has claimed in the past to be "following in Apple's line" with Windows Phone 7, it actually is following both Apple and Google in some regards.  In terms of hardware and carriers its taking Google's diversified approach, but in terms of interface and feature support its taking Apple's more detail-oriented/refined approach.  That focus on details can largely be blamed for missing features like copy and paste, but it can also be credited for the overall ease of use.

In these respects Windows Phone 7 is like a strange fusion of Android and iOS.  However, it offers its own unique style as well, when it comes to looks.  With its smart phone market share plunging, Microsoft desperately needed a strong product -- and it looks like it just might have delivered one.  Windows Phone 7 should be a worthy competitor when it hits the market on November 8.

 



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Samsung Focus
By Aikouka on 10/11/2010 1:40:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm curious why Samsung used the Snapdragon in their Windows Phone 7 offering rather than their much touted Hummingbird that they use in their Galaxy series Android-based phones.




RE: Samsung Focus
By B3an on 10/12/2010 3:21:29 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah i'd like to know why as well. All WP7 phones seem to have 1GHz snapdragons.

Kinda disappointed with the hardware and speed of these phones, not really any better than stuff that was out many months ago.


RE: Samsung Focus
By Da W on 10/12/2010 6:11:06 AM , Rating: 2
It's the only processor WP7 supports for now. Everybody seems to understand MS ask for a 1 Ghz processor, but they are asking for a 1Ghz snapdragon processor.

It's not that bad though. It's just that they are still 65 nm parts, otherwise, there are no better alternative out there yet.


STOP SAYING "slick"!
By adiposity on 10/11/2010 3:24:00 PM , Rating: 1
Please, would you stop saying "slick"?

And can't you at least leave the editorializing out of title? Jeez!




RE: STOP SAYING "slick"!
By Moishe on 10/11/2010 3:42:10 PM , Rating: 5
You posted a very slick comment. Kudos!


What I'd like to know
By alexsch8 on 10/11/2010 1:12:40 PM , Rating: 1
How good is the Exchange integration? Apple's iPhone is pretty good but it still irks me that replies are not marked as such on the server.

Also, will it play back AAC audio files purchased from iTunes?

To really consider this as a possible iPhone replacement I would also like to know which developers have committed to this platform. To even dream of succeeding, this phone will need to have the basic and most-wanted apps. Otherwise it will go the way of the Palm Pre - a good idea but...




RE: What I'd like to know
By Moishe on 10/11/10, Rating: 0
RE: What I'd like to know
By dazzajc on 10/11/2010 3:08:21 PM , Rating: 4
What year are you living in? All iTunes AAC files purchased since March 2009, and some as far back as 2007, do not have DRM protection. They can be played on any device that supports the open AAC standard. How exactly does Apple prevent competitors from playing these files?


MS's history
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 1:15:17 PM , Rating: 1
They beat Palm by blowing their doors off with features. It may not have been better looking, but PocketPC brought features that functionality that Palm couldn't touch.

Then they sat back and did next to nothing while Smartphone OS's grew up.

So now, their bid to get back into the game is just making a pretty UI and killing features/functionality?




RE: MS's history
By Moishe on 10/11/2010 2:47:13 PM , Rating: 3
Ridiculous.

The WinCE core has grown and evolved over the years and it is a solid base. The UI of Win mobile was the real drawback. By releasing a quality competitive interface on good hardware, they are indeed in competition.

You're ridiculous for expecting unpatched version 1 to be perfect.


RE: MS's history
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 6:48:19 PM , Rating: 1
I never said CE wasn't a good base, I think it is incredible base now neutured by a glossy finish.

Windows 7 came out of the gate well didn't it? So has Office 2010. Both far bigger projects than this phone.

I'm not expecting too much.


I am a premier developer partner with Windows Phone 7
By dehx on 10/12/2010 2:32:35 PM , Rating: 3
And I can attest right now, that yes, thrid party apps can do Push notifications and tile updates on the home screen.

We were given a Handset that had the developer build of the OS on the phone to work with, as well as having direct access to the latest SDK builds.

I'm not allowed to mention, but there is a good list of great software coming to this phone. Not just games either. I'm not going to be too specific. But the developers that were allowed into the early builds and preview were also allowed to fly up to Microsoft and get access to the very developers of the OS. Developing on this phone is a breeze and the UI and IDE design process blows iPhone and Andrid out of the water. So expect alot of developers of those platforms to make quick versions of their apps for this phone.

Our company, for example, has a fairly complex app in terms of the features we have. It took us almost a year to develop the iPhone version, which was our first. Over 8 months for the Android version. The Windows Phone 7 version: just finished it last month, and we started at the end of June when we got the invite from Microsoft. So we were able to design, develop, test and release just inside of 3 months, what it took nearly a year on the other phone platforms.

Games: Microsoft has included the XNA framework... so getting the XBOX Live arcade games on this phone, is a matter of a week or two's work. Not months.

We, and other developers were given uber access to alot of amazing UI design tools as well as the OS developers, and there were hundreds of us. So I am looking forward to seeing this thing launch. It has alot of potential. It's already my favorite platform to develop on.




By cjohnson2136 on 10/13/2010 3:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
One of my classes is all about developing on Win 7 Phones. My teacher went to something last week in DC about the Win 7 and I am excitied to see what he comes back with for us. I love the developer tools for Win 7 compared to Android. I have not used the SDK for iPhone though.


MS using WebOS functionality
By vcolon on 10/12/2010 1:15:34 AM , Rating: 1
Over at precentral.net there are rumors that Windows mobile 8 is using alot of WebOS functionality. Can anyone confirm this?




RE: MS using WebOS functionality
By retrospooty on 10/12/2010 8:23:06 AM , Rating: 1
I hope so... WebOS beats the stink out of iphone and Droid, and anything else out there. Its just that Palms hardware sucks and their hardware choices suck even harder.


Nvidia's Tegra 2 chip
By CoZmicShReddeR on 10/17/2010 6:36:30 AM , Rating: 2
Whatever happened to Nvidia's Tegra 2 chip is what is confusing me! I mean it showed so much potential for making phones into portable super gaming/media computers!




*yawn*
By Warwulf on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: *yawn*
By Suntan on 10/11/2010 1:05:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
late-to-the-gate


Ah... Because everyone that owns a cell phone already has a smartphone...

-Suntan


RE: *yawn*
By PAPutzback on 10/11/2010 1:25:01 PM , Rating: 2
No, but most of those who can afford or get their smartphones from work have upgraded over the last year. Those without smartphones probably could care less or are people that think needing an everything plan to make phone calls is ridiculous.

The one thing that MS has going for it is the workplace. Most of the companies I know are not open minded enough to take a look at anything other than RIM devices. They require the exchange security. MS will be the only alternative until the early adopters of Android and iOS start sharing their thought with the other CIOs out there.


RE: *yawn*
By 2uantuM on 10/11/2010 1:33:28 PM , Rating: 5
Have any numbers to back up those claims? I can afford it, yet I have not upgraded. Neither has anyone in my family and most of my friends.


RE: *yawn*
By Mint on 11/8/2010 4:44:53 AM , Rating: 2
LOL so the whole smartphone industry is going to shut down for the next year or two?


RE: *yawn*
By haldiggs on 10/11/2010 1:10:02 PM , Rating: 3
Not I! I am looking forward to more competition. Not happy with the iPhone, impresed with Andoid but not the phones that are using it. They just aren't what I want.

I don't want to carry a huge phone around. I like that they aren't racing to make a 4.5 inch screen on these. Doomed? nah, just late.


RE: *yawn*
By ranger203 on 10/11/2010 1:12:13 PM , Rating: 4
I own an Iphone. There is one thing this phone does well. Play! Apps are fun, ipod is great. 1 thing it doesn't do well. Integration to work! Outlook support is bare bones. Document editing is below average. Certificate support is left up to 3rd party players to get them installed.

Apple = fun
Microsoft = Work? Man, I hope so!

I can't even snooze my calendar reminders Apple! come on!


RE: *yawn*
By xaders on 10/11/2010 9:16:44 PM , Rating: 2
It is not too late look at WebOS & Nokia Symbian. This is a 1st generation WP7 & device, ill wait for the update because im on verizon so all the bug will be work out. Id like what Microsoft did with integration with Zune, Xbox, Office but not Bing. The interface is interesting and too simple and would like to see if HTC UI in WP7. considered Microsoft was handicapped for the decade with antitrust from both the USA and Europe.

Finally, a phone from Microsoft that can compete because just like the computer, "it is always, will be Mac vs PC" Microsoft employee can now use their cell phone probably instead of worrying about having an Iphone, benefit. What would apple employee do when they have WP7?
Both CEO from Apple & Microsoft (Steve's) are in way over the heads from one into their own ego and the other in denied. 10-11-2010, Today show where Steve Ballmar avoid most of all Matt's questions about the Iphone and probably Matt has an Iphone. To Apple, they are not the center of the universe and if apple is so rich & profitable now why dont they help the poor/other around the world like Bill Gates. Even Facebook Founder & CEO donate money to help out even if we dont know how much he is worth. Steve Jobs is laughing all the way to the bank!!

In the end, We (as consumer) will get the better devices with more competition from Apple, Google, Blackberry & etc. with Microsoft. The only thing now is the "stupid" tier limited data plans and service contracts. Ill wait for 2nd one with Battery life & cell phone reception data. Wait and See it is is a failure. Id dont think it will slow Iphone or Android sales much until Microsoft with cut/past, multi-trusting & flash & etc.


It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Gungel on 10/11/2010 12:58:00 PM , Rating: 4
Yes, it does unit early next year. Microsoft already announced an update which will include copy/cut/paste.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Motoman on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 1:09:41 PM , Rating: 1
Not to mention they seem to be only targeting iOS, not Android.

I wouldn't be looking forward to re-encoding all my x.264/MKV movies to watch on this, when my Winmo and Android phone play these fine.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By UnWeave on 10/11/2010 1:19:39 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, because the iPhone sold so poorly at launch, didn't it?

'We' are not the target audience, clearly, but that doesn't mean no one will buy one.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By GladeCreek on 10/11/2010 2:09:52 PM , Rating: 3
Ballmer made it quite clear in the presentation that all launch phones would get the patch to add copy/paste and other functionality.

The tighly controlled HW spec should allow them to keep everyone at the same patch level.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Tony Swash on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Moishe on 10/11/2010 2:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
C will happen. This is not the Kin. Microsoft is actually entering the market and putting the time and money behind it to compete.

In one year, the OS will be patched with the missing features and the app store will be filling up and they will be competing. Will they win? Doubtful at first, but everyone has to start somewhere.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Da W on 10/11/2010 3:32:52 PM , Rating: 2
E) The 97% of the world population who have not yet a smartphone will look at WP7. iOS / Android growth will slow, but i don't see them loose much loyal fellowers.

RIM is doomed though.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Alexstarfire on 10/12/2010 3:48:38 AM , Rating: 2
Don't even try to deny that the iPhone wouldn't have been better if they hadn't left off a rather absurd amount of features. IMO it's never really worth getting an Apple product since it seems they purposely gimp there products so they can sell newer/better revisions later. That doesn't sit well with me even if most don't care.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Tony Swash on 10/12/2010 6:01:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Don't even try to deny that the iPhone wouldn't have been better if they hadn't left off a rather absurd amount of features. IMO it's never really worth getting an Apple product since it seems they purposely gimp there products so they can sell newer/better revisions later. That doesn't sit well with me even if most don't care.


It was still a gigantic success though wasn't it :)

If you think Apple leaves off features because of some sort of oversight or that leaving stuff out of a version one product is a problem you are seriously misunderstanding Apple's design strategy. A strategy that has, one should remember, produced an almost uninterrupted string of mega tech products successes.

You should read this:

http://www.macworld.com/article/151235/2010/05/app...


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By plewis00 on 10/12/2010 8:01:08 AM , Rating: 2
It only seemed fair to read (in full) the article you cited but I disagree with it.

For one, you've given an article written by Macworld , if that's not biased I don't know what is. Perhaps using the press release for a new product and claiming it's a critical review from someone impartial, or writing a Wikipedia article yourself then quoting it...

Then you have this:

quote:
The iPhone is following the same pattern. In 2007 it debuted with no third-party apps, no 3G networking, and a maximum storage capacity of 8GB. One year later, Apple had doubled storage, added 3G and GPS, and opened the App Store. The year after that, Apple swapped in a faster processor, added a compass and an improved camera, and doubled storage again. The pattern repeats. We may never see an iPhone that utterly blows away the prior year’s, but we’ll soon have one that utterly blows away the original iPhone.


So what was the iPhone 4 then? I don't know anyone who has a 3GS who doesn't now want an iPhone 4, it literally obliterates the 3GS in every field.

The iPhone Classic had so many flaws it was a bit silly - no MMS, no cut-and-paste (I didn't miss it too much but I know it's been done to death since), recessed headphone socket (seriously... even an Apple-lover cannot claim the included headphones are good for anything), no 3G, no basic video recording and so on - it probably did serve it's purpose to make the 3G look pretty revolutionary side-by-side though.

But I will agree, the design strategy bit is probably correct, they would have deliberately left these features out as part of the bigger picture, but you or I will never know why.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Da W on 10/11/2010 3:28:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I really can't imagine anyone buying one of these at launch...they're repeating every mistake Apple made.


Then you have a seriously lacking sence of imagination.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/10, Rating: 0
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Moishe on 10/11/2010 2:42:00 PM , Rating: 5
You are expecting too much. Did you expect Android 2.2 features out of version 1?

Business is about get the best product into the game at the right time. That means sometimes you have to sacrifice features for more important things like the right market entry time, stability, polish, etc.

Everything is a tradeoff, and MS will come out with the updates within a reasonable time. The first version is always lacking, no matter WHO the manufacturer is.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 6:45:40 PM , Rating: 1
No, but Android was a completely new platform when it came out, this based on CE just like it has been for 10+ years.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By jvillaro on 10/11/2010 10:21:29 PM , Rating: 2
"Based on" doesn't mean all of it. For all you know, based on might just mean 5% of it and it's just using the most basic core. So your just asuming to try to make a point...
So in that same way, let's asume Google didn't start from scratch neither, it's based on linux isn't it? How much did they have to really do?


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/10, Rating: 0
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Samus on 10/12/2010 3:28:31 AM , Rating: 2
You act like you've seen the WP7 code. It's not open source, so unless you're a programmer at Microsoft and breaking your NDA as we speak, you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

Furthermore, in case you haven't been paying attention, the only information we have about WP7 is that it's completely rebuilt from the ground up, ala Palm webOS.

I'm so tired of these Android fanboi's. It's just like a whole new evolution of Apple fanatics. Yes, Andoid is great, yes, they're beating Apple and RIM. But if the phone industry tells us anything, nobody stays on top for long. Just a decade ago, Nokia was #1. Now look where they are.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/12/2010 3:19:24 PM , Rating: 2
It's based on CE6, which I've seen, and have worked with CE5.2 for years.

Do a search, you'll find numerous reviews of it saying that it is NOT completely re-written.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Alexstarfire on 10/12/2010 3:53:33 AM , Rating: 2
I doubt many would, but when you're several years late to the party you don't show up with the bare minimum and nothing special. It's a good way to go the path of the Dodo. IDK how well WP7 phones will sell, but I doubt it'll sell based on it's software. Its hardware might be able to keep it afloat until it becomes a serious competitor, but IDK. I can't predict the future because if I could I'd be rich.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By invidious on 10/11/2010 1:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
There is still a large segment of the market that is first time smartphone buyers. This market is what i think microsoft is targetting because these people dont have expectations .

This is more or less how android took off. It wasnt people flocking over from the iphone that made droid popular, it was the people who didn't already have an iphone.

I think microsoft is taking the right path focusing on big picture stuff like interface trying to grab first time smartphone buyers. There is no point trying to outperform on the software side with a new OS, thats a battle they cant win. Maybe on their 2nd or 3rd gen.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 2:06:14 PM , Rating: 2
I'm assuming because I mentioned the "horrible" WinMo 6.x builds that I was downrated.

You can argue looks all day, but functionality wise it couldn't be beat.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By adiposity on 10/11/2010 5:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You can argue looks all day, but functionality wise it couldn't be beat.


Looks weren't that bad, especially in 6.5/Touchflo. Performance, however, was abysmal. I don't care that much what things look like, but waiting for 5 seconds before I can answer a phone call is really upsetting.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By aebiv on 10/11/2010 6:46:51 PM , Rating: 2
Never had that issue personally, but then again, I closed tasks I didn't need/want anymore just like I would on my desktop.

It is better than my brand new Tmobile G2 that is rebooting on its own throughout the day and then hanging.


RE: It may be shiney and new...
By Belard on 10/12/2010 3:43:06 AM , Rating: 1
Is it just me, but doesn't WP7 interface look like the KIN with its green tiles?


Andriod has those features too
By theapparition on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Andriod has those features too
By bety on 10/11/10, Rating: 0
Hahahahaa!
By macthemechanic on 10/11/10, Rating: -1
"We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk." -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs














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