quote: Looks like Apple might finally have a true fight on its hands for the title of trendiest smart phone.
quote: nor can I handle that horrid slider
quote: at some point MS will own it if they choose to
quote: They have the time and money to do it.
quote: if they want it they can do it
quote: that PRETTY MUCH makes my point that MS owns that Market
quote: Its going down now too
quote: Nothing I have said here is fanboyish
quote: the original point wasn't about gaining or losing marketshare, it was about initial market share
quote: If you want an example of a new product that succeeded try: XBOX
quote: they can refocus efforts and get it right eventually
quote: they continue to sell like crazy
quote: Microsoft wants everyone to sell as many cheap pc's as they can
quote: That makes your point moot
quote: Even heard of MS complains about how they are forced to sell ubercheap XP with netbooks and how their revenue suffers because of that? No? I thought so :P
quote: You're pulling my leg, aren't you?
quote: Does a $12k Rolex Daytona Oyster Perpetual tell time any better than a $50 Timex?
quote: Their products take away features you can get with a better performing less expensive product
quote: unique iPhone can only be beaten by another unique phone
quote: Yeah, so your prediction about Ballmer getting a boot in 5 years may hold some water given that Jobs is definitely not going to sit still for the next couple of years. By the time WinMo 7 is out Apple will have second generation of iPad and 4th or even 5th generation of iPhone on _MULTIPLE_ US carriers.
quote: he can't win unless he learns to predict the future the way Jobs does but it's impossible.
quote: you don't think other manufacturers will be doing the same thing?
quote: Have you ever heard of the expression "ahead of it's time"?
quote: listening to their customers
quote: He just develops stuff he feels "right" and he polishes it to perfection by investing as much time and money as he feels is necessary to make it "right".
quote: Okay, so MS followed its customers, improved things in Zune, WinMo, IE and stuff... and is still losing ground.
quote: You mean like this
quote: Where've you been lately?
quote: Not an argument.
quote: he polishes it to perfection
quote: Here http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.as... and here http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-sha... :P hehehe
quote: Don't make such absurd statements
quote: Windows 7 is undeniably a success
quote: You just don't understand (yet?) the fact that any perfect product may have random manufacturing defects, it's not related to perfection at all.
quote: Perfect - excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement.
quote: Ah, now I see, you're trying to slip out by replacing Windows in general with just one version, namely Windows 7.
quote: malfunctioning defects can be improved upon
quote: they are the past, and Windows 7 is now
quote: Too bad for MS
quote: How about this one: Jobs succeds precisely because he doesn't listen to some "customers". He just develops stuff he feels "right" and he polishes it to perfection by investing as much time and money as he feels is necessary to make it "right".
quote: While at the same time MS thinks its "customers" may give it ideas for its next product. Okay, so MS followed its customers, improved things in Zune, WinMo, IE and stuff... and is still losing ground. How come? ;) Aren't they supposed to gain market share quickly past few years? What happened man? Did they just stop listening to their customers? Why
quote: That's worked great for the steaming turds that are Apple TV and iPad
quote: Besides, Microsoft use another very effective technique other than predicting the future. It's called listening to their customers.