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Microsoft tries to cope with Windows 7 Mobile delay by issuing updates to current OS

Windows 7's release schedule is starting to look a lot more like Windows Vista's, despite Microsoft's efforts to distance Windows 7 from Vista.  With the first beta slipping from October to December, some nervous whispers have begun to swirl.

Now there's more fuel for uncertainty as Microsoft has delayed the release of Windows 7's companion OS:  Windows 7 Mobile.  Windows 7 Mobile, which aims to conquer a broader share of the smart phone market and compete against Symbian's offerings and Google's Android OS, is as highly anticipated in many circles as Windows 7 itself.  Hardware partners were originally told they would receive a final version of the OS in early 2009.  That has now slipped to the second half of 2009.

The delay is disappointing to Microsoft as it had also hoped to use the new highly-functional OS as a tool to combat its arch-nemesis Apple's iPhone.  With Google releasing live Android phones and BlackBerry maker Research In Motion about to update its own offerings, the delay puts Microsoft in an uncomfortable position of playing catch-up.

Microsoft would not comment on the delay.  Group product manager Scott Rockfeld did note that CEO Steve Ballmer met with 17 of the company's largest cell phone maker and carrier partners recently.  Mr. Rockfield tried to cast a positive light on these events. "They all expressed their excitement of what we are doing in the short term and the long term."

While the delay of Windows 7 Mobile may open doors for competitors, Windows does have a few tricks in the meantime to try to keep its aging Windows Mobile fresh.  It plans to debut its Internet Explorer 6 rendering engine to the OS by the end of the year.  This engine will provide support for richer web pages on phones, including Flash and Ajax.  This would give the current iteration of Windows Mobile a one-up in some respects to the iPhone.

Hardware partners are also adding touch interfaces and other features to the current Windows Mobile OS.  Among the first products to showcase this was the T-Mobile Shadow.  HTC also has several similar products in the works.  Windows 7 Mobile is expected to integrate similar touch features directly into the OS, saving developers time and expense.  Thus, with the delay developers are left to choose between spending extra to getting the features now or wait and possibly lose potential business.

Still Mr. Rockfeld says there's lots of good stuff on the way. "Customers don't have to sit back and wait.  There's tons of stuff coming from us and our partners."

He lavished praise on the Microsoft business model, which he claims is friendlier than Google's in its interactions with hardware partners.  Mr. Rockfeld addressed his perception of hardware partner's desires and said, "The thing that they are trying to do is they are trying to own the services.  They don't want to sit there and just become a dumb pipe.  We're happy sharing the limelight."

He claimed Microsoft is more willing than Google to work on custom services.

Remarkably little has been said about the upcoming Windows 7 Mobile OS.  It is thought to possibly incorporate touch features such as Windows 7 for PC.  Thus far, the only significant description came from Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer who in an April speech announced, "I think that certainly this should be a good year for us for sales, but the work we're doing on Windows Mobile 7, which is the next major release of Windows Mobile, not just in the Windows Mobile team, but across Windows Mobile, in Silverlight, the development platform, the e-mail, the back-end, I think you'll continue to see that as an area of major excitement and innovation for the company as we move forward.."



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Sensationalism at it's best...
By Locutus465 on 9/23/2008 1:43:22 PM , Rating: 5
first of all, the windows 7 beta (per DT's post) didn't slip from october to december. There was anaylst speculation that a beta would come out in October, this proved to be incorrect.

Secondly with vista there were no delays developing the companion mobile os (6) that I'm aware of. All I can say is wow sensationalism. I think the only way to make this better is to end it with a "High I'm a mac, hi I'm a PC" bit.




By mikefarinha on 9/23/2008 1:55:35 PM , Rating: 2
I agree.

Mick then needs to find away to also state as fact how the Jerry ads were pulled due to them being so terrible and not mentioning Vista. And then link to some psuedo-intellectual tech blogger offering up his 'market analysis' and 'business acumen' of how he see's this as the begining of the end for Microsoft.

This will provide the proof needed to link Win7 Mobile to the 'crappyness' of Vista.

Then Mick in turn will be linked to as proof that Win7 Mobile will be crappy like Vista, in perfect circle-jerk fashion.


RE: Sensationalism at it's best...
By JasonMick (blog) on 9/23/08, Rating: -1
By Micronite on 9/23/2008 4:54:39 PM , Rating: 2
Of course, it's not what one reports but how he/she reports it that demonstrates bias.


RE: Sensationalism at it's best...
By Alexvrb on 9/23/2008 9:21:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Before you decry my supposed hate for Windows or love for Mac, etc., stop to consider that I regularly write articles critical of Apple's many software problems and its dictatorial policies.

Ah, but if you are a Mac fan, that is exactly what you would do anyway. Like many Mac fans you would whinge about their software issues and abusive policies - and then almost immediately forgive and/or forget. Let the cycle repeat! BOHICA, Mac guy!

:P


By omnicronx on 9/24/2008 10:06:11 AM , Rating: 2
You guys need to get a life and lay off Jason. This article really is not biased in anyway, you guys are just spinning it like that. Over the past little while he has posted blogs on both sides, and this article can hardly be catigorized as 'anti-Microsoft', he is merely giving us an update on Windows 7, something some people (myself included) want to know about.
So why don't you people go sit in a corner and think about what you have just said, because you guys are the biased ones in this situation, not him. If you want the one sided take on the subject, I am sure you can find that kind of information on microsoft.com .


RE: Sensationalism at it's best...
By jonmcc33 on 9/24/2008 7:35:14 AM , Rating: 2
No need to defend your comments, Jason. Not everyone is going to agree with you.

But, I'm curious on this (below)...

quote:
...despite Microsoft's efforts to distance Windows 7 from Vista.


Windows 7 looks an awful lot like Vista last time I looked. Not sure how much "distance" Microsoft is really trying to create. If anything the ad campaign by Microsoft that you have covered is where Microsoft is trying to close the gap if anything...not create distance.


RE: Sensationalism at it's best...
By omnicronx on 9/24/2008 10:01:12 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows 7 looks an awful lot like Vista last time I looked. Not sure how much "distance" Microsoft is really trying to create. If anything the ad campaign by Microsoft that you have covered is where Microsoft is trying to close the gap if anything...not create distance.
No.. Jason is right.. Microsoft is definitely trying to distance itself form windows vista in respects to Windows 7. Obviously MS is not going to give up on their current product, but it seems pretty obvious that MS is trying to convince people that Windows 7 will be different user experience than Vista.


By therealnickdanger on 9/24/2008 3:40:33 PM , Rating: 2
This article is about Windows Mobile 7 (WM7), the successor to WM6, not the successor to Vista, who's codename is "Windows 7".


New "phone CPU's"?
By vailr on 9/23/2008 8:25:36 PM , Rating: 2
Any news on putting more powerful CPU's into cell phones and/or PDA's? Such as Intel's Atom CPU, for example? Seems to me, that a powerful enough phone/PDA CPU would allow running an unmodified "latest & greatest" desktop web browser. If you wanted, multiple web browsers. Maybe Firefox or Opera as the (user selectable) default browser, and IE7 as a backup for the few "IE only" web sites.
Question: does Apple allow installation of Firefox on an iPhone? (I'm guessing they don't.)




RE: New "phone CPU's"?
By piroroadkill on 9/24/2008 3:45:51 AM , Rating: 2
There's no reason the full version of Firefox can't be compiled on ARM to run on Windows Mobile 6


RE: New "phone CPU's"?
By winterspan on 9/24/2008 6:20:35 AM , Rating: 2
Quit buying into all of the media hype of Intel's Atom processor. At the moment, the Atom is solely a processor for cheap laptop and desktop computers. Even in it's lowest clocked single-core variant, it easily uses 10-20X more power than it's closest competitor. The biggest problem is the supporting northbridge/chipset at the moment, but even the processor itself at 45nm is much too power hungry for a cellphone. There is not even a System-on-a-chip (SoC) version of the atom -- the new Intel SoC that came out for consumer electronics is based on the Pentium M. I'm not saying you won't ever see an Atom in a smartphone, but it probably won't happen until the 32nm node or at least until it is heavily optimized.

Now on the other hand, ARM has some very impressive chips. Their new "Cortex" series has been finished for quite a while now, but retail devices containing them are not quite on the market. The Cortex-A8 is an in-order ARM core, available in multi-core versions and up to ~800mhz Similar to the existing ARM11 (used in iPhone/Nokia N95/etc) but has up to 3x the performance while using the same amount of power. The Cortex-A9 is even more powerful, being an out-of-order core, available in up to 4-core variants and running at up to 1000mhz. And both these chips power consumption is measured in a few hundred milliwatts, compared to 4-5 watts for the Atom.


RE: New "phone CPU's"?
By vailr on 9/24/2008 8:34:27 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting info about the Cortex-A9 chip. Any rumors of that chip (maybe?) finding it's way into an ultra-long battery life mini-notebook of some kind? And, that can run a regular desktop version of Windows?


RE: New "phone CPU's"?
By mlau on 9/25/2008 6:06:54 AM , Rating: 2
Next-gen Nokia tablets for instance (OMAP3). And no, no desktop windows, unless either ms makes an arm version or b) you use qemu and install
windows in it (someone installed vista inside qemu on a PS3, so it's doable. Just don't expect it to be usable)


Internet Explorer 6 ?
By mforce on 9/23/2008 3:44:37 PM , Rating: 2
Is this right , they want to implement the lovely IE 6 rendering engine .... oh dear and then what ? go head to head with Apple's WebKit ? They're a funny bunch , these guys at MS.
While I do admit that pages are made to work in IE 6 even though it's a pain in the a** to support I think WebKit is a far superior rendering engine compared to the famous ( not for good things ) IE 6.




RE: Internet Explorer 6 ?
By mikefarinha on 9/23/2008 3:59:38 PM , Rating: 2
I agree.

As much as I really like a lot of the new technology comming out of Redmont these days, adding IE6 to anything would be like ripping the fingernails out of all current webdevelopers.


RE: Internet Explorer 6 ?
By MonkeyPaw on 9/23/2008 5:41:47 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
...compared to the famous ( not for good things ) IE 6.


I think you mean "infamous," which means "more than famous." ;)


Nice marketing spin
By tayhimself on 9/23/2008 1:31:03 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
"They all expressed their excitement of what we are doing in the short term and the long term."

Nice marketing speak. They'd drop you in a second for an iphone on their network or more traction with RIM.

quote:
Mr. Rockfeld addressed his perception of hardware partner's desires and said, "The thing that they are trying to do is they are trying to own the services. They don't want to sit there and just become a dumb pipe. We're happy sharing the limelight."

Dumb pipe = good for the consumers. We want the providers to give us the pipe and get out of the way so we can do what we want (eg. ISPs)
Sharing the limelight = the old AOL.




in related news..
By 4wardtristan on 9/23/2008 9:59:36 PM , Rating: 2
humans need oxygen to live

earth rotates around the sun

electricity required to power lightbulb

alcohol found in beer

.... who didnt see this delay coming?




RE: in related news..
By piroroadkill on 9/24/2008 3:40:59 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Also, Windows 7 for the desktop? Yeah, I forsee that being delayed too. Surprise, surprise.


There is one thing I do not understand...
By Oralen on 9/24/2008 4:41:01 AM , Rating: 2
Right.

So Microsoft has got cash. Tons of it.

And they are the dominant company in such big markets (desktop, office suite, not bad in servers share, too) that they have tried to muscle into other markets:
game console, and mobile appliances.

And they are failing in the worst possible way.

Xbox ? it's good, but... Sorry, a little overheating problem, no?

Windows Mobile ? It's been around for years, yet it advances at such a snail's pace that every time a new version comes out, the reviews are more about what's not in it yet!

Can't they hire a few people? And fire those who can't deliver?

What, some severance packages and a few hundred salaries will drive them to bankruptcy?

I don't get it.

A few years back, I had a Dell X50V.

It was nice, it was slick... It had a magnificent 640X480 4 inch screen...

And when I look around to replace it nowadays...

Nothing.

Dell doesn't sell those anymore. HTC's current designs are plain ugly...

To closer I could get to it would be... An Ipod touch. But I don't want to convert all my videos, not be able to cut and paste, and be locked into Apple.

If Apple is gaining ground, it's because they are the only game in town.

I would like a WinMobile appliance with a big touchscreen, thin and light, OK? And make it beautiful.

With the freewares and hacking possibilities that comes with any Windows Products.

THAT I WILL BUY.

So, Micro... (Can I call you Micro? Or do you prefer Soft? :-) throw some money in and release it... Or quit that game because you are loosing right now.




By theapparition on 9/24/2008 3:09:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A few years back, I had a Dell X50V.

It was nice, it was slick... It had a magnificent 640X480 4 inch screen...

And when I look around to replace it nowadays...

Plenty of X51V's can be had if you take the time to look. But don't look at mine.....it's staying right by my side. If it only had a phone built in, it would blow away the Apple.


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