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The wait is finally over!

Many enthusiasts have been looking forward to the launch of Windows 7 since the launch of Windows Vista. Lack of drivers, slow speeds, greater hardware requirements, and a new user interface didn't sit well with the public. Although highly touted, Vista was a disappointment to many people who decided to stick with Windows XP until something better came.

That "something better" has arrived today. Windows 7 has launched with record sales, according to online giant Amazon and several European retailers.

The new OS is available in six editions with both 32 and 64-bit versions: Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate. Home Basic and higher editions are supersets of lower editions and contain all of the features of the editions below it.

The data for all editions of Windows 7 is contained on a single DVD. This allows an electronic upgrade to be accomplished quickly once Microsoft sends the electronic authorization to your computer. Theoretically, you can upgrade from the Starter edition to the Ultimate edition within fifteen minutes.

The list of hardware requirements shouldn't strain any computers released in the last few years. As a minimum, Win7 requires a CPU running at 1Ghz. 1GB of RAM is needed for 32-bit editions and 2 GB RAM is needed for 64-bit editions. 16GB and 20GB of hard drive space are required respectively. The new OS requires a DirectX 9 graphics card as a minimum, along with drivers supporting WDDM 1.0 or higher.

Unlike Vista, driver support from device manufacturers is very strong due to the long public beta testing period. Most Vista drivers are compatible with Windows 7, although in some cases minor tweaks are required. Many 64-bit drivers have also been released as OEMs increasingly standardize on 64-bit editions of Windows.

Many enthusiasts are using Win7 as an opportunity to move to a 64-bit operating system. Others are looking at this as a good opportunity to either build or purchase a new computer, or to upgrade motherboards, CPUs, and other components.

DirectX 11 is one of the big features of the new OS. Hardware tessellation, multithreaded rendering, and the use of Shader Model 5.0 will enable games to run faster while looking more realistic.

The only GPU manufacturer currently making DirectX11 hardware is ATI. They first released Windows 7 drivers in March, and are releasing Catalyst 9.10 today as part of their Windows 7 support. WHQL qualified Catalyst drivers are updated monthly, and are available in 32 and 64-bit editions.

Laptop and netbook users are being specially target with several new features, but all users will benefit. Windows 7 runs with much fewer background activities than Vista. That means that the CPU doesn't work as hard and so draws less power. Other innovations include less power consumption during DVD playback (handy on long flights), automatic screen dimming, powering off of unused ports, and a more accurate battery-life indicator.

Some OEMs have been showing a consistent PC sales slowdown for the last month. Although almost all of them were offering a free upgrade to Windows 7 from Windows Vista, most consumers have preferred to wait for a PC with Windows 7 preinstalled.

OEMs are launching hundreds of new products using Windows 7, while also repackaging older models with the new OS. Several OEMs that DailyTech spoke with confirmed that they had been holding back some products until today.

"It didn't make sense for us to launch new products with Vista or XP and then launch new Win7 SKUs a month later," stated one source.

"We'll be switching entirely to Win7 across our product line anyway," he elaborated.

Microsoft sees the sales of the Windows 7 product lineup in a bell curve. The vast majority of sales will be Home Premium for consumers while Professional will be the choice for most businesses and enthusiasts. The majority of Windows sales will be 64-bit, with over 75% of total Windows 7 sales through OEM installations.



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What's with the "Finally" Nonsense?
By iFX on 10/22/2009 9:55:13 AM , Rating: 2
Windows 7 had a very swift development time. We aren't talking about Duke Nukem Forver here.




RE: What's with the "Finally" Nonsense?
By XZerg on 10/22/2009 10:28:31 AM , Rating: 4
"Finally" nonsense is because of the much anticipated alternative from Vista and upgrade from XP. It isn't meant as a "something that took forever..." The RC1 by itself left a massively positive impression on most and has led many to await this day regardless of how "short" of a time it was.

The reason I have been awaiting this day was the vast number of new laptops (net/note) and other parts, specifically the ones with ION, have been delayed for this day. This should also escalate the demand on manufacturers to ramp up their drivers to have win7 support.

So all in all - Yes Windows 7 is FINALLY here.


RE: What's with the "Finally" Nonsense?
By therealnickdanger on 10/22/2009 11:39:29 AM , Rating: 2
I have never had any issues with Vista or UAC. From the moment I loaded the Vista Beta, I never looked back at XP. From what limited time I've spent with W7, I like it, but I don't see the dramatic shift everyone is talking about. I've seen the benchmarks and see the obvious gains, but in practical use I haven't really noticed yet. When I build my next PC, I'm sure it will have W7 and I'll notice all the littles things.

I am very excited for Ion netbooks - mostly Ion tablets or something similar, so I'm happy for this day in that regard.


RE: What's with the "Finally" Nonsense?
By XZerg on 10/22/2009 3:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
I have pretty much skipped Vista simply because of the high resource demands it required and the awful stigma of UAC it had. Vista after SP1 might have improved considerably but why would I use that over Windows 7 when the RC1 is running just fine on my system? Might as well jump on the latest toy and move on.


By Silver2k7 on 10/27/2009 6:24:39 AM , Rating: 2
If you didn't know the Vista UAC could be turned off ;)


By XGene on 10/23/2009 10:27:01 AM , Rating: 2
I agree, I've been using win XP for what seems a decade and even though I have had directx 10 hardware (and game titles) for almost 3 years I have had no inclination to get vista..

Today my win 7pro 64bit dvd arrives and I am excited to FINALLY be able to take advantage of all the advantages of the last several years development. I have have a copy of XP 64bit that I ran 4 years ago and had to revert back to 32 bit because of compatibility issues. I remember how much faster it was though on the same exact hardware. Now while upgrading my OS I'm also switching to a raid 0 array, 64bit, and more ram, and will finally have a good scheduled backup system and the ability to image my drive for quick recovery..

For me that's quite an upgrade only enabled by Win 7's new features and compatibility. FINALLY something worth spending $140 on.

It's refreshing to hear the silence in regards to Win 7 criticism.. FINALLY!


By DEredita on 10/22/2009 4:59:07 PM , Rating: 2
Finally is the wait for PC manfacturerers to release their new lineup of computers, like the Core I7 Mobile notebooks. Speaking of which, I am very interested in HP's new Dv6t Quad series notebook with the Core i7 720qm cpu in it. I just missed the coupon code promotion they had with them, where it started at $799. Not bad for a notebook that runs 8 processor threads, comes with 3GB ddr3, 320GB 7200rpm hard drive, and a dedicated 1GB GeForce GT 230M gpu.


By crystal clear on 10/22/2009 10:55:39 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The wait is finally over!


Rather "the Vista bashing is finally over"

Then what they will say...

"When the world's largest software company markets its flagship product as 'more stable,' you know that there is something terribly wrong with the state of innovation at Microsoft".

"The best thing Windows 7 has going for it is that it is not Vista. The truth is that the operating system is irrelevant now. It's all about the cloud,"

The expense of moving to Windows 7 far exceeds any practical value it might offer customers.

"The move from Windows XP to Windows 7 is not so much an upgrade, but more of an expensive migration,"



http://www.crn.com/software/220900045;jsessionid=R...

Good luck to Win 7 & Microsoft... time to phase out the 32 bit computing & move on to 64 bit & more....enough of that 4GB barrier.




By TomZ on 10/22/2009 11:56:10 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, judging by the number of machines that are shipping 64-bit Windows 7 editions, it seems like Windows 7 will be the real start of the 64-bit era en masse.


By Belard on 10/22/2009 2:33:47 PM , Rating: 2
No... Vista will always be the dog that it is.

R. I. P.
VISTA
OCT 22, 2009

Actually, Win7's memory management is far better than Vista. If I had to own a vista PC for some reason, it would have to have 6~8GB of RAM before I'd even consider owning such a bloated mess.

I run Win7 on a 1GB Thinkpad... runs better than Vista notebooks with faster CPUs and 3GB of RAM.

My main PC has 2GB, and Vista runs very nicely. It still uses more memory than XP, but its reasonable. So the need for 64bit version of Win7 isn't nearly important as Vista.

Both are currently running Win7RC Ultimate. So when I compare the two notebooks... the newer "faster" vista notebook was running vista-basic... and I still don't like vista.


Final build?
By bighairycamel on 10/22/2009 9:55:31 AM , Rating: 2
What is the final build? Was it 6.1 b7600 or something?




RE: Final build?
By TomZ on 10/22/2009 10:52:05 AM , Rating: 2
By pinoytutorial on 10/22/2009 4:23:22 PM , Rating: 2
Why is it that -- whenever Windows releases a product.. other Mac users, always blurt Apple's product is better?

No offense guys, but the "best" product you are clamoring for depends on how a user use "it".

my source: http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/windows-7-offi...

To think that windows 7 is receiving such a positive remarks from users around the globe makes them worthy of your applause. dont you think?




Windows 7
By albus on 10/22/09, Rating: -1
RE: Windows 7
By iFX on 10/22/2009 9:52:26 AM , Rating: 2
Mojave = Vista.


RE: Windows 7
By Aloonatic on 10/22/2009 10:30:43 AM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing that that is the point they are making, i.e.

Mojave was Vista "re-branded" and (apparently, so MS says) people loved it

& (in the commenter's opinion I assume)

Win 7 is Vista "re-branded" and (apparently) people loved it.


RE: Windows 7
By TomZ on 10/22/2009 10:54:28 AM , Rating: 2
No, Windows 7 is Vista fixed and re-branded. Big difference there.


RE: Windows 7
By Oregonian2 on 10/22/2009 2:53:00 PM , Rating: 2
Is Vista really fixed in Windows 7?

:-) :-) :-)


RE: Windows 7
By leexgx on 10/23/2009 11:41:06 AM , Rating: 2
apart form an problem when i plug my Peak USB pen drive in it some times BSOD,

it has been fully stable for the last 2-3 months (RC 7100), only thing i recommend is setting UAC one more level down it Rids the Dark screen when UAC box pops up

it has 4 levels full UAC like vista, new 7 UAC with dark, new 7 UAC with no dark and off} its not recommended to turn off windows 7 UAC it has far less UAC nag box's for power users

only time an user would see UAC on 7 is installing hardware/software and some security settings unless you set it to Full UAC mode (default is level 3 not level 4 recommend level 2 as it Rids the dark screen on UAC popup so it Instant pops up now)

other fix they have done at last is

Superfetch is Now has I/O priority, for less tech users it means when you open an program superfetch pauses and lets other programs use the disk and then resumes when there is no disk activity, that was one of the main slow downs where vista came from as vista superfetch did not Care if your programs was accessing the disk at the same time superfetch was filling the ram up (its where disk thrashing comes from, trusted installer and system restore did this as well)

trusted installer and system restore (and its shadow service) has been fixed as well as that can hang setups for long times or slow shutdowns on vista

relating to trusted installer and system restore, windows updates install faster as well now

win7 is works well on 1gb ram systems single core CPUs (but you should be buying dual core and 2gb ram Min these days its only £20-£40 difference for it)
i had win7 on 2 laptops with 1gb of ram and both was single core and they opened programs in good time (considering the hardware) not longer then it should take to open programs as vista was eating to much ram or was making to much disk load


Hype-blind
By Familyguyfred on 10/22/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hype-blind
By TomZ on 10/22/2009 10:53:03 AM , Rating: 2
Ignorance is bliss, eh?


RE: Hype-blind
By Bateluer on 10/22/2009 12:10:38 PM , Rating: 2
Who are you referring to when you say 'w're all'? I've been running Ubuntu 9.10 on my Studio 14z for a while now and don't have any intention of switching when Dell ships my Win 7 upgrade. But, getting the masses to switch is going to be impossible.

XP>Vista was a relatively minor step compared to Windows>Linux. If most users panic when the Start button changes from a rectangle to an orb, what do you think is going to happen when you slap Ubuntu on their machines?


RE: Hype-blind
By Silver2k7 on 10/27/2009 6:41:15 AM , Rating: 2
Vista wasn't a minor step, it was really the first
big step towards 64-bit.. yes there was xp 64 before it.. probably even 2000. But with Vista 64-bit got more widespread.

It also had a complete rewrite of sound and video driver models, wich made big trouble for Nvidia and Creative among others in the beginning. I would say that the kinks have been worked out by now.

Also it brought the new DirectX to the table. Even thougth DX10 wasn't all that accepted in the end probably because of poor perception of Vista among consumers.

1) Mostly this was from manufacturers selling too low speced computers as Vista compatible when they where barley able to run the thing. And 2) because of bad video and sound drivers, and all other missing drivers in the beginning of the OS.

I might still get 7, still thinks a number as a name is a bit silly, maybe better than eXperience Points but still, Vista sound better ;), when getting a new computer, or maybe when 7 SP1 get released.

response to:
"XP>Vista was a relatively minor step compared to Windows>Linux. If most users panic when the Start button changes from a rectangle to an orb, what do you think is going to happen when you slap Ubuntu on their machines?"


RE: Hype-blind
By Xonoahbin on 10/22/2009 12:36:09 PM , Rating: 2
You know, I have to say that I love Ubuntu Linux and had used it over Windows Vista for many, many months until I wanted to play games over the summer break from school. Over the summer, I upgraded to the RC of Windows 7 and I've very rarely used Linux since, even after returning to college. Windows 7 is very good; I'm actually surprised that Microsoft really did this well after the initial Vista flub (which wasn't even that bad after the first SP, but people were still being stupid lunatics.) Windows 7 stomps on Linux more than ever, so Linux users shouldn't be too out and proud about how awesome their OS is. It's good, but Windows 7 is great so far.


RE: Hype-blind
By Belard on 10/22/2009 2:43:45 PM , Rating: 2
While some issues with vista has been fixed in the SP1 & Sp2... vista STILL sucks. Still spends minutes booting up.

I've been using WIn7Rc for months, and withing a second after the desktop is displayed - I can start DOING things.

With XP on same computers... its another 15~20 second wait.
With Vista... minutes.

Vista had to SUCK that bad to make Win7 better... so this is a good thing. If we HAVE to use MS-OS, it should be very good and better than the last. Vista failed. The numbers show it.

Out of ALL the people I know in real life, only 1 loved Vista, and I considered him an idiot (before he got vista). 2 friends who have Vista notebooks... well, they lived with it, but we not thrilled and would put XP on their computers if they could. The rest, replaced vista with XP.

Every Business desktop and notebook that ship with WinXP downgrade - still counted as a Vista "sale" to Microsoft, they inflated their units. :(

You won't find anyone buying vista anymore, for any reason. XP is still more usable and will sell for a little while longer until the remaining stocks run out.


RE: Hype-blind
By leexgx on 10/23/2009 12:02:47 PM , Rating: 2
what you posted sums up what i would of posted

i am an computer tech gui i go round fixing computers most of the time so i see all sorts of systems (what some computer company's was smoking when they think vista is remotely usable on 512MB of ram its some times barely usable on 1gb of ram)

XP is far better to work with it does take 10-20 secs to be able to use stuff on XP (on desktop load)
vista hmm 1 min seems to be pushing it really if you got 1gb of ram + antivirus yes it can be 1-5 mins before the system is really usable, 2gb ram is far better but still slower then XP
win7 soon as the desktop loads you can norm lunch any thing and will open within good time (have to remember background programs are still loading antivirus norm big one)

i prefer to fix XP systems over vista or 7 due to they are norm not that hard to fix most spyware problems and the removal programs take less time, my brothers PC will still be using XP due to me needing to use recovery software and XP does not scan folders like vista and 7 does (makes trying to recover data of an half dead disk/bad sectored drive annoying) also Vista and 7 have no option to ignore all errors when trying to change security settings on files and folders you have to keep your hand on the i button where as XP does

i use an SSD in my system (win7) so it could be hiding performance problems (vista+SSD = norm pc as SSDs Love random I/O) but both of my laptops are using norm disks and are 3-7 times slower spec wise then my desktop and they work well with win7


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