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Windows 7 chief Steven Sinofsky spills lots of details on how Windows is engineered

The men in charge of Windows 7, Steven Sinofsky and Jon Devaan, thus far have been making good on their promise to keep the public posted on the status of Windows 7 via their blog.  They said their initial post generated tremendous excitement and a great deal of email and comments.  Sinofksy said he took the time to personally read each of these emails.

He said many people are concerned with upcoming version of Windows "faster" and increasing the boot speeds.  He said that this is a tricky topic, which he will discuss more in upcoming posts.  He cited several contradictory email suggestions, such as one reader who suggests a more full-featured start manager which starts up programs early (before idle), while another suggests not starting any programs till the system idles.  He said both approaches in this case have merit and are being examined.

He added that many emails revolved around asking to keep or eliminate certain features.  These emails will be considered and will yield later discussions, he writes.  He stated that even the "most straight forward request" carries a great deal of "subtlety and complexity" due to conflicting user wants and needs and the size of Windows.

After discussing these requests, Sinofsky moved on to a rather humorous topic.  He has received a lot of emails accusing the blog of being fake or accusing his posts of being ghost-written.  He stated, "Much to the surprise of both Jon and I a number of folks questioned the “authenticity” of the post. A few even suggested that the posts are being “ghost written” or that this blog is some sort of ploy. I am typing this directly in Windows Live Writer and hitting publish. This blog is the real deal—typos, mistakes, and all. There’s no intermediary or vetting of the posts. We have folks on the team who will be contributing, but we’re not having any posts written by anyone other than who signs it."

Finally he addressed questions surrounding the frequency of blogs.  He noted that posts will appear about as frequently as they do on the Internet Explorer Team's blog.  He added that the blog has no set deadlines, though.

Moving on, he provided interesting insight into how the Windows team is composed.  In total, he listed about 25 different "feature teams" which compose the Windows engineering team as a whole.  Each feature team has about 40 developers.  Some teams produce products that are independent releases such as Windows Media Player or Internet Explorer.  Other teams like the Kernel & VM team focus purely on the guts of Windows.

Each team has three types of employees -- program managers, which define the objectives and monitor goals, developers, which write the code and design the architecture, and testers who validate the code and help in its promotion.  Each team has equal numbers of developers and testers, and about half as many program managers.  So that adds about 40 testers, and 20 managers to the team.  One particularly interesting team he noted is the User Interface Platform team in charge of developing the multi-touch, an important Windows 7 feature, as well as more traditional accessibility technology.

In addition he lists four groups -- Content Development, Product Planning, Product Design, and Research and Usability -- that don't serve as feature teams, but rather work with the entire engineering team.

He said that Microsoft's monolithic development teams have drawn criticism in the past.  However he says a program like Windows necessitates big teams:

The way that I look at this is that our job is to have the Windows team be the right size—that sounds cliché but I mean by that is that the team is neither too large nor too small, but is effectively managed so that the work of the team reflects the size of the team and you see the project as having the benefits we articulate. I’m reminded of a scene from Amadeus where the Emperor suggests that the Marriage of Figaro contains “too many notes” to which Mozart proclaims “there are just as many notes, Majesty, as are required, neither more nor less.” Upon the Emperor suggesting that Mozart remove a few notes, Mozart simply asks “which few did you have in mind?” Of course the people on the team represent the way we get feature requests implemented and develop end to end scenarios, so the challenge is to have the right team and the right structure to maximize the ability to get those done—neither too many nor too few.

He concluded the post hopeful that it encourages more discussion and promising to keep his posts under four pages. 

While the post may not answer many technical questions about Windows7, it does provide intriguing insight to Microsoft outsiders as to how Windows 7 is being developed.  It also hints at more technical debates to come, so stay tuned.



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For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 1:05:27 PM , Rating: 5
...just give us an OS with a proper custom install option and be done with it.

Then we can have any version WE want.

Bloat/Gamer/Office/Home...you name it.

But just let US choose please.




RE: For heavens sake....
By mmntech on 8/20/2008 1:32:07 PM , Rating: 5
How about just one version of the OS at a reasonable price. All anyone needs is a desktop and a server edition. No more of this Home, Home Premium, Business, and Ultra crap.

I'd also suggest making Aeroglass actually useful.


RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 1:36:33 PM , Rating: 5
This is what I mean. One version but you get the novelty of being able to choose what exactly it does for you.

If you want a corporate/business setup you choose that instal option.

If you want a stripped down gamer option then choose that.

Or select custom and choose whatever ever bit you do or dont want.

It cant be that hard can it?


RE: For heavens sake....
By goku on 8/20/2008 2:42:22 PM , Rating: 2
ALso it wouldn't cost $400 either, instead it'd be a reasonable $50-$100, like the good 'ole days. (Circa 10 years ago)


RE: For heavens sake....
By darkpaw on 8/20/2008 6:46:28 PM , Rating: 3
The retail version of Windows has always been $300 as long as I can remember. Ultimate is the first one with a higher price tag, and while lame it isn't really that huge of a deal.

The only upgrade I remember buying for $50 was ME and well...


RE: For heavens sake....
By Diesel Donkey on 8/20/2008 10:01:51 PM , Rating: 2
Are you actually in possession of sufficient knowledge on this matter to determine what price is "reasonable"? Maybe you do work in Microsoft's accounting office or are otherwise very well informed, but if not, I find your statement to be rather naive and presumptuous.


RE: For heavens sake....
By MDme on 8/20/2008 10:46:16 PM , Rating: 3
you should email them. that sounds like a good idea.
Kinda like a "custom" and "default" install option but with more choices like as you said:

Default
Minimal
Bloatware galore
Server config
etc etc

also a fully configurable boot manager would be nice so we can customize the boot process ie
quick boot: idle first then loads stuff in the background
standard boot: boots all programs/startup stuff then idle
or a hybrid (custom boot)


RE: For heavens sake....
By SeanMI on 8/21/2008 9:50:57 AM , Rating: 1
OMG, you're killing me!!!

MSCONFIG, MSCONFIG...say it with me MSCONFIG!!!

Is that really what you want? Tell ya what, how about we MSCONFIG the box so NOTHING STARTS. Then we kick of a script 30 seconds in. I'm not sure what the benefit is...

And WHERE does this bloatware you refer to come from??? You don't know??? Let me tell you, it's your computer manufacturer!!! If you won't want it, build your own or pay more for one without it (that bloatware helps pay the build FYI)!!!

Oh, and one more thing...you DON'T WANT multiple version in the retail channel, but you DO WANT multiple install options?

So how about Microsoft GIVE AWAY Windows installation CDs. Then, when you go to install it, you provide your credit card number and click the checkbox next to everything you want...would that work for you? Each checkbox would have a certain price tied to it for the feature it corresponds to. Will that make it like you want it?


RE: For heavens sake....
By omnicronx on 9/13/2008 2:16:00 AM , Rating: 2
Licensing Licensing Licensing! Microsofts entire business plan depends on it, and sorry to tell you but the ability to to choose what you do and don't want to install does not help Microsoft or business's for that matter in the slightest. One version equals higher pricing which equals businesses paying more for licensing.

Step back for a second and realize that home users that install their own OS are a dying breed. I don't see chosing between 4 versions of windows as a bad thing, you pay for what you need, and if you don't want some of the stuff that comes with your selected os, install it by using the add-remove utility. One consilidated version of windows will cost more money, I don't see why anyone should think otherwise.


RE: For heavens sake....
By SeanMI on 8/21/2008 9:44:33 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously? I don't UNDERSTAND!!!

What do you want to be able to do? Do you want to decide if calc.exe gets installed? If notepad is taking up hard drive space? Freecell? Is that your core argument? You just want to be able to decide what gets installed with the OS?

You realize ALL of this can be done with an unattended setup right?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windo... (and this is for 2000!!! It's improved over the years).

You also realize that NONE of these additional programs add overhead to the boot process right? The ONLY thing they do is consume TINY amounts of harddrive space (in comparison to the 500GB drive you can get for < $100 now). So tell me, explicitly what do you WANT?

Personally, I want them to give me as many features as they can. I'll decide what I do and don't use BY USING/NOT USING IT.

In all seriousness though, I do want to understand what you want. To me it sounds like you need a more simplified interface for getting to what you want (since it's already there). Is this the case? Please, let me know. I'm pretty seasoned and might be able to help you enjoy your product even more.


RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/23/2008 12:48:18 PM , Rating: 3
You sound rather too hysterical in my opinion.

I'd rather not try you might have a fit.


RE: For heavens sake....
By omnicronx on 9/13/2008 2:19:10 AM , Rating: 2
But you havent answered his question, a very valid one at that. Programs that are not running don't take up memory. I don't see why you would think that stripping down the software windows provides will help anything.


RE: For heavens sake....
By nosfe on 8/20/08, Rating: -1
RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 1:51:58 PM , Rating: 2
I think you are being unnecessarily sarcastic for no reason there.

Now go away to your room and think about what you just said.


RE: For heavens sake....
By omnicronx on 8/20/2008 2:23:35 PM , Rating: 5
No hes not, you guys are all way out of line. Why should MS be giving out a fully developed desktop OS that has the ability to be used in business, home, and mobile uses. If you expect all the features that are jam packed in windows vista ultimate for a price of 130$, you are kidding yourself.

And please don't give me the OSX comparison, any network admin knows the power of windows over OSX in a domain environment, its not even in the same league.

Also in the server situation, why would small business's want to pay for a product like Server 08 enterprise, when it is more than overkill for what they need it for.

Your complaints are not warranted, and it seems like you think it is your right to have a 100$ OS that does everything.
Well sorry but a lot of resources and money goes into an OS, especially one that is designed to run on any hardware. This is not the same task that the guys over at Apple have with their closed hardware systems.

the only line of windows OS's i do not agree with are the Home series of windows, although even this series has its uses, especially with small form factor pc's and laptops where ram is limited and embedded devices.


RE: For heavens sake....
By mindless1 on 8/20/2008 4:49:34 PM , Rating: 2
... and yet, the home series is all most people need. The OS should be a means to run applications, if a very particular or power user needs more functionality than that, let them modularly install any further MS or 3rd party application they'd like to have instead of piling a lot of bloat and overhead on everyone.

We can't just keep making OS more complex without eventually suffering consequences. More code = more bugs + more problems resolving bugs without breaking something else. Are we at that critical mass now? No, but the trend will cause critical mass at some point.


RE: For heavens sake....
By omnicronx on 9/13/2008 2:25:38 AM , Rating: 2
What overhead? And what bloat? I have never hard anyone give me a straight answer, and those that do are usually simply answered by two words .. indexing, superfetch..


RE: For heavens sake....
By hiscross on 8/20/08, Rating: -1
RE: For heavens sake....
By inighthawki on 8/20/2008 5:32:23 PM , Rating: 3
That's a joke right?


RE: For heavens sake....
By PointlesS on 8/20/2008 5:34:48 PM , Rating: 3
which it department is that? certainly not mine


RE: For heavens sake....
By mfed3 on 8/20/08, Rating: -1
RE: For heavens sake....
By hiscross on 8/20/08, Rating: -1
RE: For heavens sake....
By 9nails on 8/20/2008 8:44:54 PM , Rating: 3
Don't get too excited. Yes, those departments use OS-X for *some* functions. But their bread and butter is still Windows Server and Exchange messaging. I just had a few guys from DHS ICE in my office and we discussed this very topic. They were commenting on the fact that I had OS-X and Novell in my shop - two platforms that they didn't have (m)any tools to hack and find what they need. It was just a few years ago that they switched from Novell, so they understood how hard it was to find tools to break into these systems.


RE: For heavens sake....
By sviola on 8/21/2008 9:35:17 AM , Rating: 1
I think you are way out on here sir. IBM does not use MacOS. Only Windows and Linux. oh...and OS/2.


RE: For heavens sake....
By wetwareinterface on 8/24/2008 5:54:00 AM , Rating: 2
...
and OS/400
and IBM's version of unix; AIX
and z/os


RE: For heavens sake....
By 9nails on 8/20/2008 8:34:42 PM , Rating: 3
Why should a desktop OS need to be written for mobile, home or business? And furthermore, why should it be a different part number from each other?

In some situations, I want to do work from home so my home version needs to be business. At work, I sometimes need to create content from Media Center and I need the Home edition to do this. And sometimes when I'm Mobile I need access to either work or home. More and more, your job requires a computer to complete a task. That computer should have the same look, feel, function at home, work or on the road.

When you get down to it, this request makes a lot of sense. Even for the server guys as well. The money I spend on a license is just that, a license to use their software. I'm not buying support or paying extra for them to develop features. All of this was designed to be used together before it was delivered to me. Microsoft developed the OS as a single kernel platform, so there isn't any real reason to split it apart into many confusing and non-upgradable SKU numbers.

OS-X has their 5% of the market, but they're trying harder to keep that market happy. Microsoft expects customers to pay more for more features.

And don't think that Microsoft made Windows compatible with more hardware, they just developed plug-n-play. The device manufactures wrote the hardware support.


RE: For heavens sake....
By Oregonian2 on 8/20/2008 1:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
That was one of the "advantages" of a Communist Soviet style government run economy where the state owns all production (by the people) such that there is only one kind of anything and it's made by the only maker. The complete lack of competition also gave no incentive for quality as well. I noticed that some folk I knew from one such country would try some food and say "the xxxx here is terrible", I'd respond, "yes that brand is terrible, try other brands to see if you like them". That would get stares "there's more than one kind?".


RE: For heavens sake....
By someguy123 on 8/20/2008 2:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
exactly. I'm pretty sure they already give you a choice; you can buy the bare bones or the ultimate. just because YOU want only one version doesn't mean everyone else agrees.

the reason they have so many versions should be pretty obvious; it's to allow people the choice of paying less for the minimum. if they only had one version it would have to be the ultimate edition, since thats the only way to give everyone the option to downgrade. that means EVERYONE would have to pay the premium just to get an "easy" custom install setup.


RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 2:49:46 PM , Rating: 3
I really dont see whats wrong with essentially putting out one full version (Ultimate if you wish) and then just letting folks choose what they want it to do.

If folks want to install all the features and bloat they can CHOOSE to do so. If they CHOOSE to strip it down they can but at a later date they have to CHOICE to add stuff back and vise versa.

As far as I see its one OS, at one price but YOU the consumer get to make the decision how its utilised. Isnt that what folks moan at MS about? Whats wrong with that?

I dont see much in line with communism there.

It worked ok with 3.1/95/NT/2000. It just started to go a bit awry with XP.

So what if that one version costs more than Home Basic. Chances are you will still pick it up for $100 as an OEM version anyway, like any other sane person.


RE: For heavens sake....
By someguy123 on 8/20/2008 3:11:27 PM , Rating: 4
what? OEM version of vista ultimate is around 190$ and home is around 100$. this is years after release as well. If they only had one edition it "may" cost less than what ultimate costs, but it will not be as cheap as just getting home. I'm not saying it's communist, I'm saying why should I have to pay the extra 90$ for features I will deactivate on installation? Just to simplify the purchase for someone else? doesn't make any sense.

I'm not in financial trouble or anything, I actually did buy ultimate for my rig, but if I did have a tight budget for my computer I probably would have bought home so that I could put the extra 90$ in another computer part.


RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 3:33:23 PM , Rating: 2
Ahh I see so those of us that actually want a more simple but tailorable (should we need it) approach have to go without cos tightwads dont want to pay an extra $50 for a piece of software they only buy every 5-6 years even though it is fully loaded with all the gadgets?

Ok so we give them even more versions at even more price points to confuse the less savvy consumer all the more and we'll still keep the 32bit/64bit dilemma alive too, because after all it has to be better to make 10 different versions for all the different depths of pockets out there. Plus we then have all the different marketing teams, support teams, testing teams, SKU's etc. etc.

How much cost does that add to your bottom line? You reckon that way would be cheaper? Thats exactly whats hitting MS right now. Are you an Apple fan by any chance?

One version, one price, you choose how you use it.


RE: For heavens sake....
By someguy123 on 8/20/2008 7:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
Do you have some kind of mental disorder? Or are you still living at home tossing away money as though it were your birth right. Money is money, and throwing it away just to help someone who doesn't want to spend two seconds reading the box of some software is stupid. First of all how does one need to be tech savvy in order to tell the difference between the editions? One says home or basic, one says premium, one says ULTIMATE, one says corporate and one says server. what the hell is confusing? it's not as though the versions are labelled "great edition" and "top edition" or something misleading; they are labeled in OBVIOUS tiers. the others are labeled for the situations they are meant for- corporate and for servers.

Secondly, the 64bit dilemma? What? Do you have a 64bit cpu? if not don't buy the 64bit. Pretty simple. If you don't know what bit your cpu supports, why are you buying an operating system in the first place? You obviously didn't buy it separately with your computer, so why the sudden decision to do so? If you're looking to upgrade OS, theres going to be A LOT more information required to learn and a single version of an OS won't do you any good if your computer is too slow to even run the damn thing.

So now putting multiple different settings on the same CD = less testing and support? what? how does that make any sense at all? Aren't you talking about having basic/ultimate etc on the same OS here? what do you think basic is anyways? do you think they created a completely new OS and labeled it basic? No. It's the exact same thing as ultimate; it just doesn't have all the features. And different marketing teams? who the hell marketed these things separately? When have i seen a commercial dedicated only to a single version of windows? theres different stickers and box art, yeah... I guess that somehow costs billions of dollars that will come back to the consumers as cost right? It's not as though the art were the exact same thing except in different colors or anything.

Also what does this have to do with apple? They only have two OS's from what I understand. I think you're talking about the ipod. Man people sure have problems with the ipod SKU's eh? That must be the reason they're selling so poorly.....wait...


RE: For heavens sake....
By mathew7 on 8/21/2008 2:44:30 AM , Rating: 2
Well with current Vista, I have a big problem: Vista Home Basic would be enough for me, except that I NEED remote desktop (server), which is only available in Business (more expensive than Home Premium) and Ultimate. So yeah, I'm for 1 version and install what you want.
Oh, and don't tell me about 3rd party, because VNC has (big) issues with Vista.


RE: For heavens sake....
By overzealot on 8/21/2008 6:12:05 AM , Rating: 2
Have you tried the latest RC's of UltraVNC?
They're at least trying to work through the security problems under Vista.


RE: For heavens sake....
By omnicronx on 9/13/2008 2:41:37 AM , Rating: 2
I had Home Premium for a while, and I had that problem too.
With basic, you are right you are basically screwed, but in home Premium, MS only crippled the rdp service they did not leave it out. Eventually someone figured it out you could turn it back on with a simple hack, so if you are only going to be using this at home there are numerous sites including this one (http://www.unet.fi/fransblog/2007/08/30/enable-rem... that have easy instructions to show you how to turn it back on.

As you already know, it can be had for much cheaper depending on where you look.


RE: For heavens sake....
By mindless1 on 8/20/2008 4:53:12 PM , Rating: 2
How about only one version, you pick what you want feature-wise when installing, then you're billed based on the chosen feature set when it comes time to activate it? So long as MS gave users more control over what is installed that could work out well enough.


RE: For heavens sake....
By jabber on 8/20/2008 5:51:48 PM , Rating: 2
Depending how they set it up I'd give it a try.


RE: For heavens sake....
By nerdye on 8/20/2008 3:02:52 PM , Rating: 2
ya all hardware should be the same!!!

And in the future all restaurants will be taco bell!!!

Yeah!

lol


RE: For heavens sake....
By bodar on 8/20/2008 10:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
Enhance your calm, citizen.


RE: For heavens sake....
By mathew7 on 8/21/2008 3:39:04 AM , Rating: 2
I think you (and all who associate this "same" approach with hardware) fail to differentiate HW from SW. In SW, your R&D cost can be covered by 1000 copies. In HW, you need millions of "copies". So making/selling 1 complete OS like Vista Ultimate (obviously not at that price) but letting you install only a subset would still cover the development costs. Even if all Vistas would be sold at Home Basic's price, in 1 year they would still record profit. So yeah, I DO say that MS is greedy.

And what you are talking about is monopoly, what the original comment was about 1 product type from 1 company. There are other OS'es in the world (although 80% is MS).

You analogy should be closer to "lets have only 1 type of pizza and extract what we don't want to eat before eating". But this is the difference of SW: you can later add or remove those things without seeing side-effects.

Closing thoughts: SW can be a complex product that does lots of things, some of them independently of others. HW usually does 1 thing (CPU runs instructions, GPU does the same but many times faster for graphic-type calculations, memory/HDD only stores data). You can have a system with Windows (1 product) and do 50% of what you need, but you need many HW products to do it (CPU, motherboard+/-GPU, memory, HDD, PSU, so 4 products is the bare minimum to be useful).


RE: For heavens sake....
By JonnyDough on 8/21/2008 5:06:51 AM , Rating: 2
We need to get back Microsoft Plus! in more forms. I want to purchase my add-ons separately! Hell, Microsoft already gives me a link to the Windows online store anyway.

The only reason M$ might hesitate with downloadable software is because if they pulled subscription support for business software like they did with MSN music then they'd lose long term customers when businesses could no longer use reinstall the OS add ons because their logon doesn't work on the website and the DRM won't let them use it.

Custom Operating Systems = THANKS.

Now if only Windows Update worked better instead of screwing up my updates. When I check "Do not show me this update again" I would like it if it didn't install it anyway. Stupid indexing and search bars. Bleh. I want an OS that I can use EXCLUSIVELY for gaming. Anytime...

While you're at it. Make me a nice solid standard internet/photos/music/movies/word processor/powerpoint/excel OS and I'll be happy. Everything else is not necessary. I really don't want to take the time to customize the heck out of my PC. I just want to keep track of my files and have Raid-1 work perfectly so I don't lose them.


Feature I want
By FITCamaro on 8/20/2008 1:06:09 PM , Rating: 2
Gaming mode. Turns off all tasks that are non-essential for gaming. Don't care if I have to reboot to get to it either.




RE: Feature I want
By jmke on 8/20/2008 1:10:22 PM , Rating: 3
alt-tab to read important email that just arrived. Ah crap have to reboot for that!

:p


RE: Feature I want
By aharris on 8/20/2008 2:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
Or, if you're someone who actually receives important emails, you can pick up your blackberry, Windows Mobile, or iPhone and check it.

I'd like the ability to have Windows shut off every service that's unnecessary for gaming. My phone can easily fill in the gaps.


RE: Feature I want
By LivingDedBoy on 8/20/2008 3:09:26 PM , Rating: 2
If you get important e-mails, or are waiting for them, maybe you shouldn't be playing games esp if you don't have any other form of getting them.

Or failing that you could, I dunno, have a second computer? I'm sure by that time you could get a decent laptop that'll read e-mail fine for damn near free. Or perhaps if you have any kind of computer knowledge at least be able to cobble together a desktop for that.


RE: Feature I want
By saiga6360 on 8/20/08, Rating: 0
RE: Feature I want
By Hare on 8/20/2008 4:05:57 PM , Rating: 3
RAM is dirt cheap so as long as no process is hogging cpu cycles, let it idle in the background. Even if a process takes a few cycles so what, it's no like all cores are constantly maxed out when gaming.


advertising
By Screwballl on 8/20/2008 1:10:07 PM , Rating: 2
They must have some new bodies in the advertising team... with Mojave and now this, I foresee more "advertising" type of mentions and websites all claiming to be "real" but once you read between the lines, such as this blog, it all boils down to advertising. One type of advertising to get more people to switch to the substandard new OS and the other type to get people thinking about Windows7 since they know 35% or more of technically inclined people switch from Vista back to XP.
http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/One_in_Three_Advance...




RE: advertising
By jabber on 8/20/2008 1:34:09 PM , Rating: 2
"Hahahahaaaaa fooled you all...this new version 7 is just Vista all along!"

Like thats going to ingratiate your customers with you.

Still crazier things have happend.


RE: advertising
By Oregonian2 on 8/20/2008 2:03:00 PM , Rating: 2
Really? They're not going to re-write the zillion lines of code from scratch and have to completely re-debug each and every of the zillion routines all over again from scratch? Boy, I sure am disappointed at them too!


RE: advertising
By jabber on 8/20/2008 2:42:06 PM , Rating: 2
I think you misunderstood what I was getting at there.

This Windows 7 blog will then turn out after a few weeks to just say that "hey we were just talking about Vista all along and had nothing to do with the 'next version'!"

You know a marketing ploy to sell Vista.


RE: advertising
By Oregonian2 on 8/20/2008 9:01:20 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry about missing your point.

The number of people reading the blog probably are negligible compared to the number of copies of Microsoft OS that are sold. If it's a ploy to sell Vista it'll probably not make any headway. Those who influence the purchasing of mass quantities for businesses probably aren't deciding based upon the info in that blog, and most of the consumer market has the decision made by seeing Microsoft on the box and that's about it.

In any case, unless Microsoft has had mass quantities of layoffs (which I think we'd have heard about) they've likely got a lot of people working on whatever's next and a pile of people trying to figure out what it will be (and it'll undoubtedly use a lot of Vista code, which will make it vista in the same way that XP really is Windows NT).


What I want
By Chaotic42 on 8/20/2008 6:31:52 PM , Rating: 2
-Give me back the old Windows Explorer. Stop grouping my files, allow me to fully edit MIME stuff, give me my old search as the default.

-Multi-monitor support. Buy the rights to Ultramon and stick them in Windows.

-More and better widgets for the sidebar

-Integrate VBA or something into the OS so that I can write scripts

-Stop freaking out when I put a CD or DVD in

-Drop 32-bit




RE: What I want
By lifeblood on 8/21/2008 5:17:48 PM , Rating: 2
I would like this too, but first and foremost I want reliability and efficiency. All the features in the world are useless if it constantly crashes on you.

I accept that many of Vista's issues were 3rd party drivers and not Microsoft's fault. I only ask that they make sure their OS is as rock solid and efficient as possible, even if it's at the expense of adding more features.


Amadeus
By Cobra Commander on 8/20/2008 8:32:58 PM , Rating: 2
I want Windows 7 simply because they're quoting Amadeus.
Tish ym tea! Tish ym tea!




bah
By thartist on 8/21/2008 12:58:43 AM , Rating: 2
more and more words. just as someone walking around you spitting dead ended ideas. nothing interesting to hear. i'm tired of so much "no substance" about win 7.
Really on my way to getting sick of it before release.

They no longer have great thing to awe us, they just don't win on the user anymore, marketing and blah blah every sick time. Then they become desperate trying to pull off whatever marketing lifeboat when their ship sinks...

and the story repeats again...




mimick
By nortexoid on 8/21/2008 5:23:24 AM , Rating: 2
They need to copy absolutely every feature of Mac OS and brand it "Windows OS X". It doesn't matter if it's legal or not.




I want a custom inetall
By ancient46 on 8/21/2008 11:10:41 AM , Rating: 2
With no Outlook, no Address Book, no Task Scheduler, No Movie Maker, no Internet Explorer, no Windows Media Player. I want Windows 7 to install as if I had run nLite and made a custom install CD. I want a manual service system that starts services when they are needed and stops them afterward (for example Print Spooler).




The real question
By mindless1 on 8/21/2008 7:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
The real question is, was the accusation of it being fake, faked.




How about they do this...
By captainBOB on 8/21/2008 3:30:01 PM , Rating: 1
Get rid of NT, as great as it was, its had a good run, now its a massive mess of layers of old code on top of new code. Start fresh and make a new kernel.

Make it 64bit ONLY, by now most computers that have 32bit only CPUs in them are inadequate for Vista, let alone Win7. 32bit needs to go.

Quit having so many useless services running, i counted over 20 different services that don't do a thing for anything.

Please for the love of all that is holy, have a frikin' force quit that fucking works, Task Manager absolutely fails at this, my firewall (Comodo) kills applications instantly, without the "Program is not responding" BS.

Maybe do away with the registry maybe?




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