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Julian Assange, director of Wikileaks has already been caught lying about individuals who he claimed were board members at the site. Now as the lies have slowly emerged, the site's secure submissions server has mysteriously died.  (Source: Wikimedia Commons)
Site is undergoing some serious issues, perhaps related to its lack of organization, accountability, and recent scrutiny

Julian Assange, director of Wikileaks couldn't answer our tough questions about the state of the site he commands.  He did have time to send three comments to us, including a vague threat.  Perhaps we should have felt fortunate that he dedicated so much time to us.  After all, it appears that he hasn't had enough time to keep up Wikileaks in its moment in the spotlight.

The site has only been able to post 12 leaked documents this year, significantly down from past years.  Its last post was four months ago.

And now the site has more bad news -- reportedly its secure submission system died on June 12.  It failed to pay the $30/year fee to renew its SSL certificate, rendering secure submission dead.  The system would only have taken approximately an hour, if not minutes, for a professional to set up.

You can see this state of affairs for yourself.  The secure submission page is here -- and times out if you try to visit it.

Without that page, sources have virtually no guarantee of privacy or safety when using the site.

The problem is the latest for the site that launched in 2007.  The site grew to prominence soon after the launch by leaking helicopter gun cam footage from a U.S. blunder in Iraq which killed civilians.

Originally Wikileaks was a true Wiki page -- much like Wikipedia.org -- allowing edits and commentary on posts.  But soon after launching it began to take away rights from the public.  First it banned public edits in 2008.  Then in 2010 it banned comments on leaks.

Julian Assange claims to have a board and volunteers who help him make decisions on the site and edit it.  However, he has admitted he has ultimate control over everything that's posted -- which has led some to accuse the site of becoming increasingly like a Soviet dictatorship.  Further, an expose by Mother Jones revealed that Wikileaks lied about at least two of its supposed board members and one of its highest profile volunteers -- they had nothing to do with the project.

Corresponding with the question of whether Wikileaks actually has employees other than Assange, or whether the site is being operated primarily by Assange himself, is the question of where the money is going.  Assange revealed the site had a budget of 800,000 €, including 600,000 € for full time employees.  It's unclear how much of that 600,000 € is going in Assange's pockets.  He reportedly lives a lavish lifestyle and frequently moves around the world, in what some speculate is an attempt to escape local law enforcement.

Other questions about the site remain unanswered.  For example, there's a Twitter account and Facebook page that post information on leaks and occasional attacks on the site's critics.  However its unclear whether either of these are "official".  Some accuse Wikileaks of ducking the question to avoid accountability for its online actions.

Ultimately the arrest of Bradley Manning -- who allegedly leaked that original gun cam footage, as well as 260,000 confidential U.S. embassy messages to the site -- and the ensuing spectacle may have proven the straw to break the camel's back for Wikileaks.  It is unknown when -- or if -- the site's backbone -- its secure server -- will be restored.




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Give it up
By DigitalFreak on 7/1/2010 8:29:22 PM , Rating: 5
Give it up, Mick. Is blatantly obvious you have a personal vendetta against this guy, Wikileaks, or both. I know you like to think that you're some great journalist, but even the worst tabloid rag on the planet wouldn't hire you.




RE: Give it up
By Daniel8uk on 7/1/2010 9:12:44 PM , Rating: 4
I loled nice one :D


RE: Give it up
By Cypherdude1 on 7/2/2010 8:14:19 PM , Rating: 5
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Give it up, Mick. Is blatantly obvious you have a personal vendetta against this guy, Wikileaks, or both. I know you like to think that you're some great journalist, but even the worst tabloid rag on the planet wouldn't hire you.
I actually think these Wikileaks and Julian Assange stories are interesting. I never even heard of Wikileaks or Julian Assange until they were covered on DailyTech. I think the leaking of sources, funding/money, and no employees aspects are interesting.

Continue your coverage Mick. That's what you're here for, to inform us.


RE: Give it up
By sprockkets on 7/2/2010 8:55:41 PM , Rating: 3
You're new here, so don't expect to know what the rest of us are talking about.

Hell, some might not get what it means when I knew Anandtech.com since the Geocites days.


RE: Give it up
By Cypherdude1 on 7/2/2010 11:29:04 PM , Rating: 3
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You're new here, so don't expect to know what the rest of us are talking about. Hell, some might not get what it means when I knew Anandtech.com since the Geocites days.
Actually, I started using the 'Net since the very beginning. In fact, I've been using computers, starting with mini's and mainframes, probably since before you were born.

;^)


RE: Give it up
By sprockkets on 7/1/2010 10:21:47 PM , Rating: 4
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Julian Assange, director of Wikileaks couldn't answer our tough questions about the state of the site he commands. He did have time to send three comments to us, including a vague threat.


I know. He makes it sound as if all of Daily Tech is involved when it clearly is another typical Jason Mick troll grabbing article.

News flash for you Jason: We already knew that Wikileaks was in trouble and needed money through more reputable source, thepiratebay.


RE: Give it up
By michael67 on 7/2/2010 3:34:29 AM , Rating: 4
STOP Jason

Lets all post in this tread whit "STOP Jason" and maybe it will get true to him, that no one is interested in this type of low quality blog, that look like a vendetta against WikiLeaks.

That is hurting both DT and WikiLeaks!!


RE: Give it up
By Diesel Donkey on 7/2/2010 3:42:13 AM , Rating: 1
Don't you have anything better to do than visit a blog written by someone for whom you have no respect? If your goal is to see Jason removed from the editorial staff of DailyTech, why not take a more discrete approach and complain to his boss rather than insulting him and attacking his journalistic integrity in a public forum from behind an anonymous username?

Yes, I am also posting anonymously, but I do not intend this as a personal attack. I am presenting an honest question because I simply cannot understand the motivation that drives you and others to repeatedly access Jason Mick's blog only to insult not only his writing, but also his character. If I find a website I don't like, then I don't return to it. So why are you here, really?


RE: Give it up
By michael67 on 7/2/2010 4:31:27 AM , Rating: 5
The problem most here have whit Jason, is that he is very openly attacking Julian Assange from WikiLeaks, without anything more then a lot of hearsay sources, and even do its only a blog, some more neutral point of view would be welcome.

And even do i enjoy some/most of his articles, he should just stop writing about this subject, and let some one else do it, as he blatantly cant be neutral on this subject.

He now looks more like Don Quijote, then a DT blog poster.


RE: Give it up
By DigitalFreak on 7/2/2010 12:45:51 PM , Rating: 5
DT used to be a good place for tech news, back when Kristopher was around. Now it's turned into nothing more than a soapbox for Mick to spew his AGW and other left wing crap.

I'm surprised Anand hasn't cut all ties with this site, as it's making Anandtech look bad.


RE: Give it up
By Diesel Donkey on 7/3/2010 3:47:17 AM , Rating: 3
I also enjoyed Kristopher's articles, and I respect that you think DailyTech is headed in the wrong direction. However, as I said, I think that there are more productive ways of going about changing someone's writing style or removing them from a writing staff than making personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but returning to a site filled with "AWG and other left wing crap" that so clearly enrages you time after time to spit bile in the comments section just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe I'm too much of a soft touch, but I guess I prefer diplomacy. If that doesn't work in a case like this, I just leave and consider returning after things have changed. But by all means, continue your campaign against Jason Mick, but just for your own sake, please keep an eye on your blood pressure :)


RE: Give it up
By adiposity on 7/2/2010 2:05:18 PM , Rating: 3
This was not posted in his blog. It was posted in "Internet" news.


RE: Give it up
By sprockkets on 7/2/2010 7:57:03 PM , Rating: 1
And what is next to his name at the top?


RE: Give it up
By oab on 7/2/2010 9:30:02 PM , Rating: 2
The link to his blog. If you notice, it is on EVERY article posted on DT.


RE: Give it up
By sprockkets on 7/2/2010 10:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
And take a look at each. There isn't any difference in the articles.


RE: Give it up
By tastyratz on 7/2/2010 12:26:17 PM , Rating: 3
Agreed.

Childish, don't you think?

Let it go. We know he picked on you but just sit down on the bus and play nice with all the other children.


RE: Give it up
By Lifted on 7/2/2010 2:35:32 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
but even the worst tabloid rag on the planet wouldn't hire you.


Please, don't hold back. Let us know how you really feel.


RE: Give it up
By Ammohunt on 7/2/2010 3:44:07 PM , Rating: 3
Julian says relax!


RE: Give it up
By hyvonen on 7/2/2010 7:23:15 PM , Rating: 2
Why don't you STFU, OK?

I find this story interesting, and to me it doesn't seem like a personal vendetta - more like he's calling someone on their hypocritical BS.


RE: Give it up
By DigitalFreak on 7/3/2010 2:01:01 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why don't you STFU, OK?

Uh, no?


Source
By tdawg on 7/1/2010 7:08:18 PM , Rating: 2
Can we get a source for the news item? Since this is a blog post, I'm guessing it's simply a repost of someone else's report.

It'd be nice of dailytech "writers" to acknowledge the source of their material, since it's seemingly rare that they research and write their own original pieces. The original journalists deserve to be recognized for their work.




RE: Source
By DigitalFreak on 7/1/2010 8:31:50 PM , Rating: 5
DT staff are bloggers, not journalists. Don't let the fact that they have titles like Senior News Editor fool you.


RE: Source
By tdawg on 7/1/2010 11:16:44 PM , Rating: 2
Jason posts this without citing a source so that it comes across as if he actually corresponded with the guy that runs the site when really he had nothing more to do with this story than just copy and paste from another site onto his blog. If I were the writer of this piece, I'd be pissed that Jason's passing off my work as his own. No ethics whatsoever.


RE: Source
By thurston on 7/3/2010 9:05:03 PM , Rating: 2
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when really he had nothing more to do with this story than just copy and paste from another site onto his blog


Could you please post your source?


RE: Source
By rika13 on 7/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: Source
By wiz220 on 7/2/2010 12:30:12 PM , Rating: 3
"Fox is slightly right", I LOL'd.


RE: Source
By Out of the Blue on 7/2/2010 1:55:09 PM , Rating: 2
Fixed news is not news,it's the right hand of the Republican Party.As far as other news site,they seem to be middle of the road.


Jason Mick is not a journalist
By adiposity on 7/2/2010 2:21:15 PM , Rating: 5
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lack of organization, accountability, and recent scrutiny

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Perhaps we should have felt fortunate that he dedicated so much time to us. After all, it appears that he hasn't had enough time to keep up Wikileaks in its moment in the spotlight.

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which has led some to accuse the site of becoming increasingly like a Soviet dictatorship.

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He reportedly lives a lavish lifestyle and frequently moves around the world, in what some speculate is an attempt to escape local law enforcement.

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Some accuse Wikileaks of ducking the question to avoid accountability for its online actions.


No journalist should get away with speculation, sarcasm, and inuendo like this. I don't give a crap about wikileaks, have never visited their page, and they may be involved in a host of illegal activities. However, I read this article, and I hear crap like, "some say..." "reportedly..." combined with comparison to a Soviet dictatorship (really, you are comparing a small website to Soviet Russia?), without one source to back up any of it. Only the sleaziest, least competent journalist would even call this an article.

The only news in this post is that their secure submission page isn't working. So we have what, a small web misconfiguration, and you are using it as a reason to write a hack job on the guy? Seriously, what the hell is going on here? Did this guy beat you up in high school?

Learn to keep your opinions in your blog. And learn the difference between news and speculation. And back up your accusations with sources of some kind. And...ah, screw it, you're an idiot, aren't you?




RE: Jason Mick is not a journalist
By Lerianis on 7/4/2010 12:24:11 AM , Rating: 2
This isn't speculation, adiposity. Frankly, everything Jason Mick wrote in this article is true. Perhaps it is YOU who needs to realize that you have a problem with Jason Mick because he exposes the right-wing scandals and writes articles exposing the wrongdoings of places like Wikileaks.


By adiposity on 7/5/2010 1:03:56 AM , Rating: 2
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Perhaps we should have felt fortunate that he dedicated so much time to us. After all, it appears that he hasn't had enough time to keep up Wikileaks in its moment in the spotlight.


This, is speculation. He's not reporting a fact, he's making a conclusion about the time of the Wikileaks founder.

quote:
Frankly, everything Jason Mick wrote in this article is true.


As I stated, I'm hardly on expert on the topic. It may well be true, and frankly I don't care one way or another. What I dislike is the tone of style of the article which is not reporting any real information, but rather an obvious attempt to attack someone with innuendo and speculation.

quote:
Perhaps it is YOU who needs to realize that you have a problem with Jason Mick because he exposes the right-wing scandals


If anything, Wikileaks and Right-Wing scandals are on opposite sides of the spectrum. I do not read Wikileaks and I am hardly "right wing." So I find this accusation simply asinine.

He's just a poor journalist. I frankly have no issue with the content of most of his posts. Usually I dislike the sensationalist titles he uses, his lack of attention to detail and accuracy, and in this case (for the first time, really), an obvious personal problem with a specific individual.


Fixed the title
By Lord 666 on 7/1/2010 10:09:45 PM , Rating: 5
"Dailytech Reportedly in Shambles, Secure Submission System Dies"




I don't care
By Etern205 on 7/1/2010 9:33:23 PM , Rating: 2
what wikileak does or their bowel movements.
This type of article is useless and has no affect for the rest of us.

Please (I'm asking nicely) to post article that's informative and interesting like when is the next wireless/BT enabled dentures going to be out?

Thank you!




2 hours to apply a new certficate
By Flunk on 7/1/2010 10:38:37 PM , Rating: 2
A monkey with a keyboard could apply a new certificate in less than 2 hours, a qualified person could do it in minutes. If it's down, it's down because someone wants it to be down.




Mick your a douche
By AliShawkat on 7/2/2010 3:08:39 AM , Rating: 2
You should be supporting this guy.




Mick
By SSDMaster on 7/2/2010 1:26:02 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously?




Well...
By Daniel8uk on 7/3/2010 12:17:23 PM , Rating: 2
Well I just donated some money.

People can say to me 'It's a CIA front, it's just manipulating people', well you know what that could be the case it could just be a massive scam but then again it may not, it may actually be genuine and it may help many millions of people in this world know the truth and help us all pull together just a little more to stand up for what is RIGHT.

I'm willing to gamble in the hope that it can bring real change.. Not Obama change, but an actual good change for this world.




Wikileaks
By Out of the Blue on 7/2/2010 1:26:40 PM , Rating: 1
America is after anybody who disagrees with this assine war.They will kill anybody that gets in their way,including reporters and first responders to help people.Being a disable Marine,we are taught to KILL,then America wonders why so much violence,drug abuse and murder is happening. Soldiers and returning veterans are committing suicide because of memories and guilt.




Another waste of time.
By Daniel8uk on 7/1/2010 7:15:06 PM , Rating: 1
I believe the article was posted over at Wired and was taken from a blog post by a Steven something or other, which Assagne personally replied to, and to be honest this whole article is another attempt to smear Wikileaks, it would appear as if WL is really getting under some major player(s) skin now.

You can expect in the coming weeks a whole barrage of articles about WikiLeaks, this will help turn people away from the site. And if someone or a group of people really want this then you know something major is developing.




RE: Another waste of time.
By teapartyguy on 7/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: Another waste of time.
By petrosy on 7/1/10, Rating: -1
ETA on Getting Shut Down?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: ETA on Getting Shut Down?
By tdawg on 7/1/2010 7:05:42 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not that familiar with Wikileaks, but how is it "blatantly illegal"?


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/1/2010 10:16:54 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not aware of it doing anything illegal. Now, the people that submit the leaks, they are in many cases breaking the law. Much like the clown recently arrested for leaking classified documents and video.


RE: ETA on Getting Shut Down?
By VultureTX on 7/2/2010 8:40:01 AM , Rating: 2
They tried to sell the Venezuela documents to a third party.
That is not journalism, that is spying for profit or stolen information brokering.


By Out of the Blue on 7/2/2010 2:01:52 PM , Rating: 1
Could you please tell me where you got your information,which I find hard to believe!


Is it all a conspiracy?
By fatedtodie on 7/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Is it all a conspiracy?
By snyper256 on 7/2/2010 10:42:58 AM , Rating: 3
Why attack wikileaks for something that someone else did?

Is there any other site that allows people to expose corporate or government corruption with comparably low risk?

Clearly, wikileaks is making some people unhappy. Most of them deserve it.


By Out of the Blue on 7/2/2010 1:32:17 PM , Rating: 2
I completely agree with you.If we could turn on the TV and watch WAR 24 hours a day,I bet we would be out of Afghanistan real soon.Thanks for your post.


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