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Wii gets you off your couch and moving!  (Source: Nintendo)

NPD shows Wii sales steadily increasing for June through August  (Source: roughlydrafted.com)
Another source has analyzed sales data and confirmed that in July/August Wii took the lead, with 9 million consoles, over the Xbox 360's 8.9 million consoles

Last month DailyTech reported on VGChartz's announcement that the popular Nintendo Wii had surpassed the Xbox 360 in worldwide sales.  At the time the statement was somewhat controversial and was met with some skepticism by fans of the other platforms.

Now another source, The Financial Times, has analyzed worldwide sales data through July, and through August for Japan, to determine the real console winner.

The FT's conclusion? There have been 9 million Wiis, 8.9 million Xbox 360s and 3.7 million PS3s sold worldwide.

The firm analyzed information from the leading retail tracking groups worldwide.  Data was provided by Enterbrain in Japan and NPD Group in the U.S. and GfK of Germany, which tracks European sales.  It is worth noting that while both studies declare the Wii sales king, their numbers are slightly different than VGChartz's sales figures.

When asked if the Wii was a success, Nintendo president, Satoru Iwata humbly replied in a recent interview:
"Not yet, it's a good start. It's been a good start, but it's only the beginning. We want to have the customers continue playing. We want to continue coming up with new proposals to them, and have them keep playing. Only then can we say that we've accomplished our goals. We've been preparing to make things happen."
The Wii has certainly been a commercial hit for Nintendo as it has transformed Nintendo from a shrinking company in the Gamecube era into one of Japan's largest companies.  The Wii has been popular with people of all ages, and is well liked for its casual "pick-up and go" style of gaming with a high level of user physical interactivity.

A recent survey on consume purchase intent showed the Wii Console obtaining the top mark for next-gen consoles, with a rating of 3.7/5.0.  Xbox 360 was rated at 3.4/5.0 and the PS3 at 3.1/5.0.  A rating of 3.0/5.0 is considered neutral.

A Microsoft replied tersely to this announcement, "We are exactly where we need to be at this point in our lifecycle, and would not trade places with anyone."

As Wii sales continue to top the charts each month, an exciting new accessory, the Wii Zapper is on the way.

To continue the good news for the Wii, it just had two exciting titles, Mario Strikers and Metroid Prime Corruption, released.   Wii owners also have many exciting titles to look forward to, many of them exclusive and utilizing the motion sensing control system.

Upcoming titles for the platform include Guitar Hero III, the controversial Manhunt 2, Fire Emblem: Radiate Dawn (Wii exclusive), Super Mario Galaxy (Wii exclusive), Nights: Journey of Dreams (Wii exclusive), Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (Wii exclusive), Soul Caliber Legends, Trauma Center: New Blood(Wii exclusive), Wii Fit, and Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii Exclusive) among others.

As of Q2 2007, Nintendo has sold 44.8 million Wii titles, though Xbox 360 has been selling more software monthly for some time.


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8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By noxipoo on 9/14/2007 3:48:17 PM , Rating: 1
wow? .1million below Wii? is that right? i read it wrong?




RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By fk49 on 9/14/2007 3:56:16 PM , Rating: 5
Those are world-wide figures.
In Japan, the Xbox 360 sells like a Ford pickup


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 4:13:58 PM , Rating: 2
If that was true, they'd be doing great... Pickups are where american car companies (tradtionally ford in particular) do well!


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By fk49 on 9/14/2007 4:27:17 PM , Rating: 4
Sorry, I meant it sells about as well as American cars in Japan. Which is terrible.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Samus on 9/14/2007 10:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty much the only American company with an international presence is Ford, too, so its amusing you used them as an example :)

But we get your point.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By TomZ on 9/14/2007 11:40:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pretty much the only American company with an international presence is Ford

Um...are you forgetting GM?


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By mxzrider2 on 9/15/07, Rating: 0
By KernD on 9/15/2007 11:46:28 AM , Rating: 2
The fortune 500 list is of American companies only,
quote:
Our annual ranking of America's largest corporations

that's why Toyota isn't there. You might want too take a better look at the links you post.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By TomZ on 9/15/2007 12:23:01 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
you guys are retarded the out of the top ten most recognizable brands world wide 3 aren't from the U.S.

Uh, we were talking about car companies, not all companies/brands. Thanks for the info, though!


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By SigmaHyperion on 9/15/2007 4:01:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pretty much the only American company with an international presence is Ford, too, so its amusing you used them as an example :)

But we get your point.


Yeah, just Ford.

Oh, and Exxon-Mobil, Wal-Mart, GM, Microsoft, Chevron, Proctor and Gamble, ConocoPhillips, General Electric, CitiGroup, AIG, IBM, HP, JPMorgan...

Need I go on?

About the only non-American companies with an international presence that even holds a candle to the American ones are a couple Petroleum companies (namely BP and Royal Dutch Shell) and a handful of Auto manufacturers (VW, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc).


By SigmaHyperion on 9/15/2007 4:03:52 PM , Rating: 2
NM, I see your reply in the other offset thread.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By uglyone888 on 9/14/2007 4:02:09 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
wow? .1million below Wii? is that right? i read it wrong?


You read it wrong. That number is for worldwide sales not just in Japan alone. I don't think the combined sales of the original Xbox and the 360 have sold even that much in Japan... It stinks for them though because they are missing out on some of the best games


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By acer905 on 9/14/2007 4:06:01 PM , Rating: 3
Ahh, but is that not a biased statement? if they felt they were missing out on some of the "best" games do you not think they would buy the system? As i see it, they feel that the games for it aren't worth the system. And those who do think so, have one. Its not as if there is a shortage or anything


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Frank M on 9/14/2007 4:53:01 PM , Rating: 3
Considering that Japan has an extremely xenophobic culture, I wouldn't be surprised if they ignored a the 360 simply because it was American.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 5:11:42 PM , Rating: 2
Sales *really* picked up when blue dragon was realeased... Probably they just need to get a speacial japan group going, speacializing on getting content the japonese people will find intersting, RPG's seem to be the biggie. I don't know why MS decided to just give up on japan w/o even trying, I think that's silly of them (in the past they've stated they're not putting in the effort because the expect to not do well).


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By mcturkey on 9/14/2007 9:51:01 PM , Rating: 3
If you'd made this comment in regards to original Xbox sales, it would be true. Sadly, you made it about 360 sales. Blue Dragon was Japanese developed for the Japanese market, and helped move systems. There are other Japanese games out already and coming out designed to do just this. Microsoft in fact has their own Japanese development studio and marketing group precisely for this purpose. Cracking that market is tough no matter who you are if you're not from Japan, but Microsoft has not given up by any means.

More on topic and in regards to the article, the title is misleading and silly. The Wii has not won anything. You can look back on the last generation and say that the PS2 won definitively, but until we are 4-5 years into this one, there will not be a clearcut winner. The oldest competitor has only been around for a bit under two years and is about to have a slew of very big powerhouse titles released for it. To say that a console that's only been around for 10 months has "won" is very premature.


By StevoLincolnite on 9/14/2007 11:41:48 PM , Rating: 2
You don't really need 4-5 years to determine the winner, if History is anything to go by, then the Wii has already won now that it is in first place in terms of sales, if you look at past consoles, since when has a console managed to beat another, then suddenly loose to the competitors console?


By afkrotch on 9/17/2007 12:51:10 AM , Rating: 2
Ya, that's why they strive to make a lot of money, so they can afford a BMW, Mercedes, Lamborghini, and whatever other exotic car is available.


By colonelclaw on 9/17/2007 6:07:07 AM , Rating: 2
/facepalm

nothing beats the american understanding on other people's culture for sheer stupidity.

their culture isn't xenophobic, it's just totally DIFFERENT. once you've wrapped your mind around this concept then perhaps we could all live together in a slightly more peaceful manner, kk?


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By MonkeyPaw on 9/14/2007 5:36:16 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Ahh, but is that not a biased statement? if they felt they were missing out on some of the "best" games do you not think they would buy the system?


If you've been watching the tech industry for any length of time, you'd know this isn't true. There's probably more bias in the tech business that there is in professional sports.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By animedude on 9/15/2007 1:47:55 AM , Rating: 2
Hello iPod?

The last time I checked, the iPod is doing extremely well in Japan.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Rampage on 9/15/2007 3:20:58 AM , Rating: 1
Ipods (selling well in Japan) are the exception, not the rule for American products in Japan.

360's not selling well is due to MS's failure to not market the 360 as a "Famicom" (if you know your NES history..) in Japan, and failing to deliver enough goofy Japanese titles.

Nintendo thinking they needed to sell the NES under a different naming scheme than their native one, is revealing to their own knowledge that their OWN market is bigoted against American products...
so they thought we would naturally be so against theirs, as well.

Japan is bigoted, period.
Americans tend to buy the best product. The minority tends to prefer products from American companies as we believe you cannot expect your neighbor to buy your goods, if you do not buy his.
I believe this personally, and chose to buy from companies that (in the end) sends the profits back home to the USA. So I game on a 360, and even though I'm lucky it's the best high-powered console this gen, it's an added bonus feeling at home with my countrymen at Microsoft.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By Zyzyxxz on 9/15/2007 6:55:23 AM , Rating: 1
Wow how did you come up with this stuff?

Japan being bigoted? Its partially true I will give you that if you've learned their cultural history you would know but you got some of your facts wrong.

Americans do not tend to buy the best products they tend to buy the best marketed (advertised and trendy). Why is it the Ipod sells so well when it has been confirmed that Creative Zen's offer better lcd screens and better audio quality? The truth is Japanese tend to buy the best quality products unlike the majority of Americans who do not research on things they buy. Why would a Japanese guy buy a game console which caters more to Europeans and Americans when they can get a Wii or keep playing the PS2 and have a very large selection of Japan-only games which cater to them. Its an economical choice.

360 is not the best system in terms of hardware power its pretty much even to the PS3 in graphical power but when you compute processing power the 360 is easily outpaced.

So you only want to support American companies? Thats fine and patriotic but its an unrealistic goal to try and only buy "American" but how much of Microsoft is really your countrymen when most of their workers are in china assembling the keyboard and mouse you use to browse this site.

You gotta be a middle-schooler or some dumb high schooler because you obviously never took world history. If you did you would know that the reason for the Great Depression was that every country was trying to produce all of their own goods and not depend on each other. After that the world went to hell for about a decade.


By Axbattler on 9/15/2007 2:14:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why is it the Ipod sells so well when it has been confirmed that Creative Zen's offer better lcd screens and better audio quality?

I've done a side by side comparison between the iAudio X5, 5G iPod and the Creative Vision:M. In terms of video playback, there is no contest, Creative outdo the 5G iPod which outdo the iAudio X5. Better audio quality? I disagree. Frankly speaking, there is no clear victor, they all perform very well you may subjectively prefer one to the other, but to claiming its a non contest is ludicrous. Push come to shove, I'd say the headphone-out of the X5 edges the iPod slightly, which is a bit better Vision:M. Using an amp and the line-out however, the iPod takes the lead.

And the two examples you've listed might correspond to your priority. While I consider audio quality important, I do not put the same importance to the screen, since I have no intention of putting videos into a music player. On the other hand, I do put significant importance to the capacity of the player, and Archos players aside, Apple is usually leading in that aspect. I also happen to favour their UI, although your mileage may vary (but I am reasonably confident that many do favour iPods UI). I have no need for a radio, but if it was indispensable then the iPod loses point there since it would require a separate accessories. Etc. etc. etc.

Overall, I do not doubt that Apple has done an excellent job marketing their products, and while the earlier generation were lacking (particularly on the audio quality side), but they've come a very long way since. Is the iPod the perfect player? Not really, it has its strengh and weakness just like every other player. The enthusiast will weight them out before picking a player, the mass are more likely to fall for marketing scheme and brand loyalty. And...

quote:
he truth is Japanese tend to buy the best quality products unlike the majority of Americans who do not research on things they buy.

... no, the Japanese mass is not immune to that either. At the very least, many are brand loyal. Let's look at headphones (since I am a bit of a headphone enthusiast), take a look at the most commonly used headphones used by commuters on the subway. Chances are, it's an Audio Technica (Japanese brand). Now I have quite a few good things to say about some of ATs, but you can not say that they are the best quality headphones bare none. I am sure Japanese headphone enthusiast knows that, but the public is pretty happy to stick with that well established brand (which is by no mean a poor choice; simply disproportionally to other good choice available).

I am not American, and having lived in quite a few places, I'd say that 'advertised and trendy' sells in many places on the globe.


By JCheng on 9/16/2007 2:02:28 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
how much of Microsoft is really your countrymen when most of their workers are in china assembling the keyboard and mouse you use to browse this site.


As a Microsoft employee, I can tell you that the majority of us are here in Redmond, WA and the vast majority are in the United States.


By jskirwin on 9/15/2007 11:00:36 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Japan is bigoted, period.


It's not PC to say that but after living there 5 years I'd have to agree. Most gaijin don't recognize the power of sakoku, the isolationist thinking that gripped that nation for hundreds of years. Foreign influences have been alternately embraced and rejected since the dawn of that nation; it's written in their society's DNA.

Americans will buy the best product regardless of its origin by weighing price with quality. Before the average Japanese makes that decision s/he first considers whether the product is foreign or domestic. Sometimes foreign items will receive precedence, especially luxury items like alcohol and tobacco (think Chivas and Marlboro). But usually the Japanese believe that a foreign product will not serve them as well as a domestically produced one and reject regardless of its quality or overall value.

I don't understand why we have a problem with this here in the US. One of the things that drives me nuts about PC thinking is the assumption that everyone is the same, that all cultures are equals and have shared values. They aren't and they don't.

The Japanese culture is unique in the world; Americans have more in common with Kenyans than they do the Japanese. Ditto your average Italian or Israeli, other nations I'm deeply familiar with. Different does not necessarily mean bad. Just because the Japanese are bigoted against nearly everyone and everything that's not Japanese doesn't mean they aren't deserving of respect and nice people one-one. In my 5 years living there I was helped by too many nice Japanese people, but that doesn't mean that their culture as a whole does not remain xenophobic and racist. It's both. If you don't believe that, talk to a Japanese born Korean.

Foreign businesses can make money over there but they can only do it by either flying under the radar and appearing Japanese, or by leveraging an existing positive attitude the Japanese hold about a foreign product or service. For example, American banks and services have done much better there than our manufactured goods because the services have a "Japanese face" selling them, and the Japanese have also learned by word of mouth and by traveling abroad that the Japanese service industry is decades behind their manufacturing base - mostly due to protectionist legislation and laws that kept competition at home to a minimum.

If I had been asked, I wouldn't have even recommended that Microsoft introduce the console there. American software and hardware has always had trouble in Japan. It wasn't until the mid 1990s that Apple began getting some traction with their product lines. But Apple stuck to it, worked hard, and was able to crack the market. Now it's one of their best markets, and will no doubt remain so indefinitely.

Microsoft isn't well liked in Japan, and its up against Sony and Nintendo - two of that country's national treasures. The Japanese know that MS competes with these companies abroad, and they aren't going to undermine two companies that have put food on the table for hundreds of thousands and helped make Japan the international industrial powerhouse that it is today.

Bigoted are not, the Japanese are what they are. You either accept them for that, or you don't. They aren't going to change for you.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By xphile on 9/14/2007 10:47:38 PM , Rating: 2
No, actually if you READ the article you both read it wrong...

"Now another source, The Financial Times, has analyzed worldwide sales data through July, and through August for Japan, to determine the real console winner."

July it used worldwide sales. August it used Japanese sales ONLY.

I dont care in the slightest who is selling the most, but surely this is really terribly skewed. We all know the Japanese August sales figures will include about 12 Xbox 360's, the rest will all be Wii's and PS3's.

If they HAD used full worldwide figures for BOTH months it would likely have been a somewhat different outcome because the 360 has a much better share outside of Japan.

Gotta love how they twist those statistics.


By animedude on 9/15/2007 1:49:28 AM , Rating: 2
Huh? The Wii is bound to surpass 360 sooner or later.


By Zurtex on 9/15/2007 4:27:24 AM , Rating: 2
Given the Wii outsells the 360 in ALL other markets, this isn't true at all. You can assume any other sales figures from other markets, if y 360s were sold, then at least y + 1 Wii's were sold. So the Wii has out sold the 360, no matter how you look at it.


RE: 8.9 million xbox360 sold in japan?
By tuteja1986 on 9/15/07, Rating: -1
By mcturkey on 9/15/2007 11:13:18 PM , Rating: 4
Low? 276,000 is one of the best numbers for 360 since December. September is on pace to beat even that, as systems are moving en masse for Halo 3. While it probably won't quite top the Wii, this is the first month since the launch of the Wii where it's dominance can't be guaranteed in the US.

I think what's more telling is that the 360 gained a lot more sales because of a price drop than the PS3 did (and the PS3 drop was larger!).

In the end, regardless of if the Wii sells more, it's not going to be like last gen, where one system is totally dominant. The Wii has largely unique titles and doesn't really compete with the 360 or PS3 for the same type of games as most "traditional" (fps/sports sims) games produced for the Wii end up doing poorly, while things like Wii Sports and Wii Fit end up being great.

One thing that needs to be understood is that the gaming market is not a fixed size. It is growing into a massive new set of demographics, and the Wii and DS are largely responsible for that growth. Thus, Nintendo isn't really cannibalizing very many sales of PS3/360. The tens of millions of gamers who had PS2s and XBOXs last generation are still likely to end up with either a PS3 or 360 this time around, and may also have a Wii. This is why I say you can't just declare Wii the winner this early in the game.


By kmmatney on 9/16/2007 1:14:57 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, PS2 still selling more than the PS3...


As a Wii owner since launch day...
By Aprime on 9/14/2007 3:54:17 PM , Rating: 3
I believe non-motion driven games should be adventure games (I never got past the first dungeon in Zelda because it got tiresome, and the same would probably apply to Metroid, although I hear the controls are rather easy), and pick-up and play should be motion driven.

Wii Sports never gets old, nor does Warioware and all those minigame-filled masterpieces, but anything adventure gets either tiresome or frustrating. I used to love Paper Mario, but the Wii version... Urgh.

I just got a 360, and although I can see a lot of graphical bullshit in Forza 2 (I can't believe some people can claim that this game is graphically superior to Gran Turismo 4), it's providing me with hours and hours of non-stop amusement. I have no reason to warrant the renewal of my XBLG account yet, though.

I assume I'm going to love Mario Kart and SSM, however.




RE: As a Wii owner since launch day...
By acer905 on 9/14/2007 4:03:10 PM , Rating: 2
I personally think that the control scheme is perfect for metroid. It was actually the first game i thought if when i heard of the motion controls, because point and click is perfect for a fps. My main reason for computer gaming has been the control system, look around and shoot with mouse, use the w-a-s-d setup for moving around. I can't wait to get to try out Metroid


RE: As a Wii owner since launch day...
By UNCjigga on 9/14/2007 4:09:50 PM , Rating: 3
Haven't bought Metroid yet--any word on Zapper support in the game? It'd be cool if Nintendo secretly put in support for the new accessory (either explicitly or through customizable controls).

All I can say is Wii + Zapper + FPS games + online play will be very, very sweet if Nintendo can pull it off. Unfortunately I've heard rumors that because of limited CPU power, framerate will suffer in multiplayer FPS games (which is why the new MarioKart's graphics are underwhelming even for Wii.)


RE: As a Wii owner since launch day...
By acer905 on 9/14/2007 4:17:01 PM , Rating: 2
The Zapper is nothin more than a shell... just like the Wii Wheel is. So yeah, you could use it with Metroid if you felt like it. Or, if you are creative enough, you can make your own version of it


By GoodBytes on 9/14/2007 8:16:57 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think it will have support, As you need the numchuck and the wiimote to move around. I think it will be a bit hard to control if the controls are in the Zapper shell.


By kinnoch on 9/14/2007 5:57:30 PM , Rating: 2
The controls do work very well for metroid, but PC controls are still better for FPS's imo. The Wii controller limits how fast you can turn left and right b/c you have to point the cross hair to the side of the screen to turn. On a computer, the mouse controls the cross hair, but the cross hair is "glued" to the center of the screen, so when you move the mouse you turn instantly.

I haven't peeked around in the Metroid options yet, so i'm not sure if you can adjust the "turn speed," which would be the equivalent of "mouse speed" in a PC FPS.


By Patrese on 9/14/2007 6:00:12 PM , Rating: 3
A friend of mine bought Metroid and it is absolutely awesome. It takes a little while to get used to the controllers, but once you do, you just can't stop playing it. Mario Srikers is fantastic right out of the box, no "getting used" needed, since it's so intuituve... As soon as I have money (Wii is really expensive in Brazil), I'm gonna get a Wii too...


By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 4:16:45 PM , Rating: 3
Wow... I loved Zelda's control system, it was actually extreamly flexable.... I could get all into it jump all over the place and have all kinds of fun when I was all pumped up, when I was lazy there were on controller buttons equivilent to all of the most physical of controls (swinging sword and such), so I could chill, sit back and not move a whole bunch.


By damncrackmonkey on 9/15/2007 6:29:12 PM , Rating: 2
I may have missed something, but are you claiming Super Paper Mario is gesture-based?


By encryptkeeper on 9/17/2007 5:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
I never got past the first dungeon in Zelda because it got tiresome

By "tiresome" I'm going to assume you mean physically tiring instead of boring right? If so, what the hell were you doing? After playing the game it really WOULD have been difficult to include real time sword slashes all the time (or at least with the amount of damage you have to deal enemies, boxes, vases, etc). The only way to simplify it would have been 1-hit kills on most creatures. But the way it's set up, small wrist flicks are enough.

And yes, Metroid Prime 3's control scheme rocks.


Wii...
By daftrok on 9/14/2007 3:51:21 PM , Rating: 4
Buddy you're a toy make a big noise
Playin in the street gonna be a big box some day
You got heat on yo face
You big disgrace
Kickin your console all over the place singing

Wii will we will rock you!
Wii will we will rock you!

Buddy you're priced like a small van
Shoutin in the street gonna take on the world some day
You got sheer lack of games
You big disgrace
Wavin your console all over the place singing

Wii will we will rock you!
Wii will we will rock you!

Buddy youre an old box poor man
Pleadin with your eyes gonna make you some peace some day
You in a shitty place
You big disgrace
Nintendo gon' put your ass back in your place singing

Wii will we will rock you!
Wii will we will rock you!




RE: Wii...
By mWMA on 9/14/2007 4:09:40 PM , Rating: 2
good one. Gave me a good laugh.

Just need to change the last part to

Nintendo gon' put your ass back in your place
Wii will we will rock you!
Singing
Wii will we will rock you!


RE: Wii...
By timmiser on 9/14/2007 7:44:34 PM , Rating: 2
I can't believe you've been rated down for that. That was good! Maybe youngsters don't recognize the lyrics?


RE: Wii...
By siberus on 9/14/2007 9:44:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah i agree...was funny....some people just can't take a little light hearted humour it seems :S


RE: Wii...
By daftrok on 9/15/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wii...
By sxr7171 on 9/15/2007 11:08:49 AM , Rating: 3
Oh yeah the "language police" LOL!


What this REALLY means
By ChipDude on 9/14/2007 6:17:19 PM , Rating: 3
I amazed how all you boys argue about sales vs. real sales or some small inconstency in numbers.

The bottom line is that the WII continues to out sell by a large margin both the 360 and PS3. It has done so and continues to show NO indication of slowing down. Thus those that argue about how boring it gets after a few hours isn't relevant either. BOTTOM line is WII is on track to very quickly dominate the installed next generation platforms by a huge margin. I estimate between 3:1 or more.

The implication of this is huge. This means it becomes more and more compelling for developers to develop games on the wii first. You compound that with the complexity of development on the cell and its clear this becomes a feedback. More players drive more motivation for games developmers which means more games. With more games there is more reason to buy the leading player. The spiral continues and the WII wins.

Does it mean PS3 or xbox360 fails? There are some winner games on xbox360. Time will tell for PS3. They die hards will drive some minimal sales, but for certain from a business point of view xbox360 and PS3 are a finacial failures. Neither is own track to their respective companies orginal dreams. They can now only hope they meet some midrange target. The decision is still out about whether the strategies to grow the PS3 and xbox360 and give them a niche the WII lacks will pan out.

Bottom line WII is the winner and will be found in more homes. Nothing is going to change that NOW.




RE: What this REALLY means
By 3DChipset on 9/14/07, Rating: 0
RE: What this REALLY means
By peritusONE on 9/14/2007 10:45:14 PM , Rating: 2
It really doesn't matter how many consoles they sell if they can't sell any software. I'm not saying they aren't, but the 360 still leads in software sales every month between the 3 systems, and will most likely continue to do so for the rest of the year. I'd rather sell 1 million units at $60 per for the 360 than sell 750k units at $50 per for the Wii, regardless of how many systems they sell.

But, like I always say, and will say again, the Wii does not compete directly with the 360 or PS3. I don't care how many units it sells, the 360 and PS3 will be unaffected by the Wii's presence in this current generation, and I truly believe that.

I'm just gonna be pissed if Microsoft thinks they need some kind of gimmick next-gen and forces it on us. Sony and Lair already showed how this is a bad thing. Please, for the love of god, just leave my classic controller alone!


RE: What this REALLY means
By 3DChipset on 9/14/2007 11:02:43 PM , Rating: 2
Explain your, "I rather sell 1 million at $60.00 vs 750k at $50.00" arguement? You make it sound like Microsoft is actually seeing a $60.00 royalty fee for each title sold. Plus you do realize Nintendo isn't losing any money on it's hardware right? While Microsoft and Sony are.

I have no clue why you would pick Microsoft's model when Nintendo's in all positives with their system sales.


RE: What this REALLY means
By SigmaHyperion on 9/14/2007 11:56:22 PM , Rating: 4
You're presuming that just because the price of the game is $10 cheaper, that the money Nintendo makes is $10 cheaper. And that's not the case. Royalty fees, while varying quite a bit from title to title, are roughly the same amongst everyone. Nintendo titles cost less because the dev budget to create them is significantly less than the dev budget to create a blockbuster MS/Sony title. And since most ever major Nintendo title is first-party, and therefore almost all that $50 goes straight to Nintendo rather than just the few bucks of royalty fee that MS/Sony see of most of their titles, it's generally pocketing a LOT more money on those "750K units" than MS is on its' "1 million units".

Couple all that with the fact that Nintendo is making money on hardware sales too, and doesn't need the high software sales that MS and Sony do just to break even, and you see why Nintendo is BY FAR the most profitable gaming company in the world. Even when Nintendo was doing "badly" against the competition it still made better margins than Sony (and of course better than MS which wasn't turning a profit at all).

Now that it's wildly successful its profit margin is enormous -- a 20% net margin. It is now the FIFTH largest company in ALL of Japan . I think Nintendo, which makes a whopping 20% net margin doesn't need to be taking lessons from Microsoft, who can't even turn a profit PERIOD from their gaming division. Nintendo is already making money hand-over-fist -- on both hardware and software.


It's a little more complicated
By obeseotron on 9/15/2007 12:02:51 PM , Rating: 4
The Wii is doing everything Nintendo could have hoped... for Nintendo, not third parties. They make money on the hardware and their first party games sell very well so they are right where they want to be. Microsoft and Sony both lose money on hardware and thus rely on software royalties to make their profit. They don't want to sell a ton of consoles and very little software. When you see Wii Madden lose to original Xbox Madden in the NPD's, you realize just how different the markets for the HD consoles are than for the Wii.

Platinum Selling games on Wii:
-Wii Play
-Wii Sports
-Super Paper Mario
-Zelda
-Metroid Prime 3 (probably soon)

Platinum Sellers on PS3
-Resistance
-MotorStorm
-Madden 08 (probably soon)

Platinum Sellers on 360
-Call of Duty 2
-Call of Duty 3
-Oblivion
-Rainbow 6 Vegas
-Splinter Cell Double Agent
-Madden 07
-Madden 08
-Gears of War
-Crackdown
-Dead Rising
-Bioshock (probably soon)
-Guitar Hero II
-Forza 2
-GRAW
-Lost Planet
-Saints Row
-Perfect Dark Zero
-Fight Night Round 3
-PGR3




RE: It's a little more complicated
By 3DChipset on 9/16/2007 10:05:54 AM , Rating: 1
Exactly, Why people can't seem to understand that the people on Anandtech, Arstechnica, etc... aren't Nintendo's marekt. Everyone on these forums bitch that how can Nintendo succeed, their system is boring, blah, blah, blah, blah. You people are a niche group amongst the huge simplistic casual gamer crowd.

NINTENDO'S Wii IS NOT TARGETED FOR YOU!!!

Seriously... Is it really that hard to understand the different markets people?


RE: It's a little more complicated
By jrb531 on 9/18/2007 3:21:51 PM , Rating: 2
Well this "nitch" group of 360 owners will keep buying games for years well after the Wii "fad" is over and people put the Wii on the shelf until they have a party and they haul it out to keep the kids busy :)

-JB


RE: It's a little more complicated
By jrb531 on 9/18/2007 3:22:03 PM , Rating: 2
Well this "nitch" group of 360 owners will keep buying games for years well after the Wii "fad" is over and people put the Wii on the shelf until they have a party and they haul it out to keep the kids busy :)

-JB


By Locutus465 on 9/17/2007 3:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
you do realize that Nintendo has Madden 08 and COD 3 right? Madden is an automatic top seller on any platform :P


odd
By lufoxe on 9/14/2007 4:40:29 PM , Rating: 2
reading through, I don't think the RIAA has anything to do with the wii... might want to check up on that (before you downrate it's what I see, and yes I've cleared my cahce)




RE: odd
By SeeManRun on 9/14/2007 4:42:09 PM , Rating: 2
I had to press refresh, cause I just read the RIAA article, and now found it twice. haha, weird!


RE: odd
By EntreHoras on 9/14/2007 4:42:23 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I think that too.


RE: odd
By Dharl on 9/14/2007 4:48:14 PM , Rating: 2
Same thing happening here. The article starts off about the Wii finally suprassing the Xbox in total sales. Then it begins with the RIAA South Carolina ruling article.

Odd, and I really wanted to read about How Wii Won!.


RE: odd
By Dharl on 9/14/2007 4:54:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
RIAA South Carolina ruling article


Ugh I need to learn to read a little more carefully. Southern California....


Wii=trends will end
By tiburon on 9/14/07, Rating: 0
RE: Wii=trends will end
By Warren21 on 9/14/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wii=trends will end
By smut on 9/15/2007 12:45:45 AM , Rating: 3
you knew what he meant, PC. -_-


RE: Wii=trends will end
By Locutus465 on 9/17/2007 1:03:40 AM , Rating: 2
I'm only missing sony in my lineup, and couldn't disagree with you more... Wii is more appealing to families (the kind of people that will win the war) for many reasons. It's easier to use, the type of game play is more fun and it has many practical additional apps (web, weather, news).

The games I own for Wii are all worth considerbly more than $5 (Zelda Twilight Princess, Rayman, Excite Truck etc). Only Wii game I have that I don't like so much is Rampage.


RE: Wii=trends will end
By kelmon on 9/17/2007 5:37:00 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry but I already own a PS2 and neither the PS3 or 360 is anything more than a glorified version of this. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion but the suggestion that people are suddenly start rushing to these systems is just false. The PS3 and 360 are too expensive and too complicated for the casual gamer and the Wii just appeals more - that situation won't change in this generation until much later (if ever).

Congratulations, incidentally, on being able to afford 4 gaming systems - you evidentially have more disposable income than most households these days.


RE: Wii=trends will end
By Locutus465 on 9/17/2007 2:57:52 PM , Rating: 2
X-box actually a whole lot more expensive than Wii these days, and honestly I don't think it's a lot harder to use than the Wii... The Wii's main advantage is the fact that the control system is easier for the casual gamer to learn in most cases, x-box's advantage is the number of multimedia upgrades you can add (if you wish) over the base model. Unfortunetly this is the kind of thing you have to actually use before you really appriciate it, it isn't quite as impressive when you're just hearing about it from a friend. But video market place is very cool, and the HD-DVD upgrade drive is great stuff! And what is good for MS, is the fact that if you can't afford a higher end version, you can start with a core and build it up to the level of Multimedia capability that you want slowly over time.


RE: Wii=trends will end
By Locutus465 on 9/17/2007 3:55:02 PM , Rating: 2
should read actually *isn't* a whole lot more expensive with a ~$270 cost of entry.


Where can you buy a Wii?
By timmiser on 9/14/2007 7:54:07 PM , Rating: 3
OK, I'll be honest with you. EVERY time I go to a store that sells game systems I always check to see if there is a Wii in stock and I have yet to ever find one. Always plenty of X360's and nowadays it is easy to find a PS3 but I've never see a Wii yet. The only Wii's online I've seen are those bundled with a bunch of games making the price over $400 easy and there is no way I'm paying PS3 prices for a game system that is not in HD. I want to buy a Wii console for the suggested retail price of the system. Where can I get it??

At walmart.com it is in stock but only as a bundle and costs $538.00!




RE: Where can you buy a Wii?
By robber98 on 9/14/2007 10:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
At walmart.com it is in stock but only as a bundle and costs $538.00!


And it get sold within an hour!


RE: Where can you buy a Wii?
By timmiser on 9/15/2007 3:49:12 AM , Rating: 2
No, as a matter of fact, it is never sold out at that price.


RE: Where can you buy a Wii?
By jrb531 on 9/18/2007 3:19:17 PM , Rating: 2
See any Furbies or Cabbage Patch Dolls or Pet Rocks?

Why do some people equate "good" with "trendy"

Think for yourselves people and stop allowing others to decide what system you need to have.

The Wii is a trend or a Fad. Most people want one because they are so hard to get. Once they flood the stores (I bet they are holding back consoles on purpose to keep up this trend crap) and people can walk in and buy as many as they want the Fad is now over!

Graphics not being important? What planet are you living on? Everything revolves around making the games see more real. It's only when you do not have the hardware to compete that you have to resort to "claiming" that graphics means nothing.

After all if graphics mean nothing then why not just release a stupid "wave your arm in the air" controller for the Gamecube and leave it at that. After all graphics mean nothing right?

-JB


What does this mean for the long-haul
By AlphaVirus on 9/14/2007 4:47:59 PM , Rating: 2
I have to give props to Nintendo for making such an appealing console, but in all honesty the system bores me.
It is fun to jump around and swing the remote in the air whilst yelling at your opponent and feeling more realistic. The true thing a game needs is replay value to be past down through many years, I get bored with the Wii in less than an hour of playing. Xbox360 and PS3 may not have the same fire as Wii but I can bet they will be around much longer and more enjoyable throughout the years.
Their capabilities will carry them, along with PS3's constant firmware updates that make it better all the time it wont be much of a war to fight against the Wii.

The only thing I could see Nintendo doing is making a new system to keep up for the years to come.




RE: What does this mean for the long-haul
By BansheeX on 9/15/2007 1:26:34 AM , Rating: 2
The wiimote is essentially an airmouse and airmice are incomparable to real mice. You can hold it out like you would a real object, but not control it as anywhere near as quickly or accurately as one. Even gamepads are frustrating to me, but are more capable than this thing at making jerk movements, turning around quickly, etc. If you're an extremely casual gamer who has never FPSed with a mouse before, the wiimote is going to appeal to you. But understand that it is nothing but frustrating to someone like me who has been taking names for years on a real mouse. I can't be entertained by not being able to point and eclick at things as fast as I know I should. That's asking me to put all my emphasis on the external realism vs the speed/accuracy realism of what I'm actually doing in the game.

I'm also perpetually disappointed by Nintendo's hardware decisions. I honestly feel that they are a better marketing company than Sony or Nintendo, but are just as arrogant, and the rabidness of their fanbase is doing nothing to make them offer better hardware in their new consoles. Remember that graphics, while not more important than gameplay, are still incredibly important to the overall delivery of a game. If that weren't true, we'd all be playing old consoles still because there are TONS of great old games you've never played. You cannot deny that the same game ported equally on graphically more capable hardware is superior. Instead of pushing for greater originality in a game's plot, soundtrack, atmosphere, characters, and graphics like a traditional console, they went cheaper than necessary on hardware and hyped up a device with limited applications (makes little sense for fighting games, platformers, soccer games, racing games). They simplified gaming to a level where one of the above four people will now play. If that's success, then it's success on a level that should not be compared to the PS3 or 360. Because while everyone may enjoy the occasional game of wii sports, your typical non-gamer mom, grandpa, or socialite has no appreciation for things like BioShock, Oblivion, and Symphony of the Night. So "winning" in sales figures is somewhat irrelevant in whether it's actually better or not. Paris Hilton gets more attention than people who actually contribute to society. Britney Spears sells more CDs than The Knife. So I hope I don't hear anymore "wow wii is the best next-gen console because it's outselling the others." It's stupid.


By 3DChipset on 9/16/2007 10:01:19 AM , Rating: 2
You do realize you're a niche group right? You're not the casual gamer. So you're not the intended market Nintendo is after. So in theory it's the PC, PS3, and XBox360 crowd that is comparing the Wii to the rest of the bunch.

You seem bitter that Nintendo didn't go the route you wanted which is already filled. The PC, PS3, and XBox 360 are all basically the same. Hell The XBox is basically another computer anyways, ala PS3 too.

Nintendo is after a crowd that don't sit in front of a television for days end or sit in front of a monitor for hours upon hours playing FPS and MMO's. Why do people constantly seem to mix the two with Nintendo's offering? Nintendo's crowd are the people who enjoy the outdoors. Who enjoy killing some time before their show's are on. Nintendo's crowd is the crowd that wants simple entertainment without having to figure out a million button combinations to play a game.

Nintendo went at the simplistic crowd and the truth of the matter is that the simplistic crowd owns all crowds in terms of numbers.

So for the people who are playing PC games, First Person Shooters, MMO's, etc... Get off your ego trip, you're the minority in the gaming world. Nintendo knows it and is capitalizing on it. Don't be pissed because you're being neglected by Nintendo. They don't care and their sales show it... Move on.


By kelmon on 9/17/2007 5:19:58 AM , Rating: 2
I could not agree with you less and I've been playing FPS on the PC since they first appeared as a genre. A joystick was a better control method than the keyboard and the mouse was better than the joystick. However, I honestly don't understand why everyone seems to think that the mouse is the be-all and end-all of FPS controllers. While I worry that the Wiimote will be portrayed as more of a "murder simulator" by the media, it's a much more interactive means of playing such a game and I'll take it over a mouse any day of the week even if the mouse is more accurate.

I honestly have no idea why you are harping on about the graphical importance in games since it's obvious from the sales figures that consumers don't care. The suggestion that a game on another system with better graphics is better is totally irrelevant in this context since the difference in the control methods makes any "port" totally different. Yes, it's relevant when comparing a 360 version of a game to the PS3 version since the two systems are largely the same but Wii versions of a game should be completely different experiences. All the 360 and PS3 have proven in this regard is that going for higher performance gives you higher prices for the hardware that consumers aren't willing to pay for (PS3) and unreliable systems (360). Great...

Honestly, I see the 360 and PS3 as dinosaurs from the last generation of gaming, not the "next generation". The games for them are the same that we had in the last generation (and beyond) but with prettier graphics and not much in the way of new ideas. Suggesting that they are in some way or another "the way forwards" and that the Wii should be ignored for not being a serious games machine is laughable to the extreme.


Can't say I didn't expect this....
By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 4:12:34 PM , Rating: 2
The Wii is a fun gaming system that appeals to more than just "real gamers"... That combined with the pricing of the Wii made for a console destined for great sales! And to think how over hyped the PS3 lauch was compared to the Wii launch, really makes me laugh.

Now what will be interesting is with Microsoft's adjusted pricing structure, great new games up and coming (my preorder of Halo 3 is already paid off) if they might go back in to higher gear sales wise. And even more interesting is this supposed new marketing scheme of theirs comes to light (x-box 360 archade etc).

On the other side, once there is a $400 PS3, that will be more pressure on Nintendo... But the Wii really is a great an unique system. They have a very highly competitive system now.




RE: Can't say I didn't expect this....
By killerroach on 9/14/2007 4:27:38 PM , Rating: 2
The biggest challenge for Nintendo is keeping third-party developers making games for the Wii... looking at sales charts, and the only games that are selling well are Nintendo's own properties (the best-selling non-Nintendo game that I can see, Resident Evil 4, has sold about as many copies total as Metroid Prime 3 sold in its first week out). Granted, if the installed base is there, Nintendo can survive for a very long time on just its own properties... but it gets harder to recommend a Wii when just about the only games worth playing on it are the Big N's tentpole titles (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.).


By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 5:00:00 PM , Rating: 2
I think if they survive Microsoft and Sony's marketing push they will get 3rd party development. I'm sure the big thing on game developers mind is can they keep the momentum when "HD Consoles" are now priced much more competitivly, particularly the 360 which now has roughly the same up front cost as the Wii now ($20 more expensive).


Anybody else notice.....
By Dianoda on 9/14/2007 4:48:04 PM , Rating: 2
That the text of this article talks about the RIAA and P2P? And makes no mention of the Wii? Did anyone else try reading the article? Is it just me? Jason, fix it please...




RE: Anybody else notice.....
By Vertigo101 on 9/14/2007 4:55:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, they've got some articles stomping on each other at the moment. Made me take a 2nd look as well.


RE: Anybody else notice.....
By Dianoda on 9/14/2007 5:22:24 PM , Rating: 2
Seems they fixed it pretty quit, too...


Wrong sales figures in the chart
By Bonrock on 9/14/2007 4:54:13 PM , Rating: 1
The sales chart you show from roughlydrafted.com is incorrect. According to NPD, the Xbox 360 sold about 275,000 units in the US during August, while the PS3 sold about 135,000. The sales chart in this article shows the two consoles as being about even, which is wrong.




RE: Wrong sales figures in the chart
By ani4ani on 9/14/2007 5:24:06 PM , Rating: 3
It probably takes away from the sales figures the 360's that are sent out to replace warranty problems :)

In all seriousness, you forget that outside NA the 360 is just not happening - it is the 4th ranked console in most other territories in the world, i.e. Wii, PS2, PS3 and then a long way back the 360.


By Bonrock on 9/14/2007 6:14:45 PM , Rating: 2
The Xbox 360's sales outside of the US are irrelevant to my comment. If you look at the chart included with this article, the title says the chart is for US retail sales. Thus, the data in the chart is completely wrong, and I hope one of the DailyTech editors actually reads this comment and fixes it.


err, the article is about the RIAA suit
By sdifox on 9/14/2007 4:46:54 PM , Rating: 2
OR am I the only one that got the RIAA article when the title is talking about Wii sales number?




By Polynikes on 9/14/2007 4:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I got the same thing. That's weird.


These numbers don't seem right...
By TechLuster on 9/14/2007 4:29:24 PM , Rating: 1
The general consensus last Winter was that Microsoft had just barely missed their ~10-11 million sales (or shipped?) goal for '05-'06. Another source in the article referenced above gives 10.89 million units sold for the 360 so far (though they seem to arrive at this figure by adding .44+7.03+1.38 million). Furthermore, Ars Technica rights, "the Xbox 360 sold 276,700 units this month [August], for a lifetime installed base of 6.3 million."* They used NPD's data too, and from the context, they seem to be talking about US figures only. But DT's article gives 180,000 360's sold in the US in August?!? (Note that the discrepancy for the PS3's US sales figures is even worse.)

With so many massive discrepancies, I find it very hard to put much stock in any of these figures. One partial explanation is people confusing units SOLD with units SHIPPED, but this still can't explain the massive discrepancy in August SALES figures.

If anyone can help clarify things for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.

* Source: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070913-nint...




By SigmaHyperion on 9/14/2007 4:47:23 PM , Rating: 2
Even "SALES" versus "SHIPPED" isn't cut and dry. It's simply a matter of perspective. So you have to look at who the figures are coming from. As far as MS is concerned it's SOLD some 11 million 360s, whether those 11 million have been sold at retail to a consumer or not. MS sells it when it goes to a distributor.

That's why even looking at "SALES" figures you can get big discrepancies. If you're looking at sales figures according to NPD, you're getting rough results from polling retail locations. If you're looking at sales figures reported by some manufacturers, you're going to see significantly different numbers. You'll see those discrepancies widen even more as we head into this holiday season and distributors start to stockpile.


Will be very interesting months ahead
By mWMA on 9/14/2007 4:33:18 PM , Rating: 2
Xbox 360 will make gains thanks to new lineup of games and show strong sales during holiday/winter season.
PC games will pickup as well during the holiday.

Wii will continue to hold its lead no matter what Microsoft does. Nintendo can easily keep the things running off the shelf faster than they can produce and if Wii start to get some shelf life they can easily increase their sales again by dropping the price to $199.

No matter how you look at it... until the mid of next year I can see Wii holding its lead followed by 360 at second, and PS3 at third but possibly managing to beat PS2 in sales number.




am i the only one...
By chochosan123 on 9/15/2007 7:35:40 AM , Rating: 2
am i the only one noticing that acording to these charts PS3 sales are increasing rapidly? from 90,000 to 170,000 a month? is PS3 gaining ground?




RE: am i the only one...
By Bonrock on 9/15/07, Rating: 0
Nintendo is smart
By Yongsta on 9/17/2007 12:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
Nintendo is smart, they made a console that would be most appealing to most people. I mean my parents & girlfriend & even some friends think I'm a nerd & wasting my time when I was playing my Xbox 360. But when they saw me play Wii, they were initially interested, wanted to join in, and couldn't stop playing. I personally find the Wii a bit boring but other's who are just casual gamers love it & want to get a system themselves. That's the magic of the Wii, it's not really intended for techies of Anandtech but the much broader market which is why I think Nintendo will win. There's some people who loves sports cars but for the most part people drive camry's...




Wii Where?
By The0ne on 9/17/2007 3:23:32 PM , Rating: 2
I still can't find a Wii in San Diego and it's been several long months :) There are however many many many PS3's and XBox360 :o I say Wii is doing very well in this region.




These numbers are wrong
By Lakku on 9/15/2007 11:37:30 PM , Rating: 1
It seems this group is trying to say the 360 has only sold 8.9 million units worldwide in its lifetime, is that correct? Because if that is what these people are saying, they are flat out wrong. I work for one of these three companies, I won't say who for sure, and I can say with fact that the 360 has over 10 million units INSTALLED, not just shipped. They achieved this MONTHS ago, around the March timeframe. Wii, however, IS outselling the other two next-gen consoles on a month to month basis, and should overtake 360 at some point. As of now though, the 360 has a helluva lot more then this article says. To add, the last bit is also telling. Microsoft has a 3 to 4 titles per console attatch rate, and a pretty good accessory attatch rate as well. Wii has about 1 to 1.5 titles per console sold attatch rate. Most people get it, play Wii sports, and don't do much else with it. I have all three systems, and the Wii is fun, I honestly like it. However, there are only a handful, maybe two to four, of good games out for it, Zelda and Metroid being two of them. Everything else is a copy of a competitor or the same thing over and over again. I am not trying to bash Wii, but this article is flat out wrong on many counts and Wii's current titles aren't very good. I hope it gets better for them, but at any rate, all I can say is that the Microsoft totals in this article are incorrect.




Bad title
By Murst on 9/14/07, Rating: -1
RE: Bad title
By Locutus465 on 9/14/2007 4:18:37 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah... The Nintendo exect is correct to be humble and reserved... They've had a great starter, but now the real war is on with Microsoft and Sony both realigning their marketing and pricing stradegies.


RE: Bad title
By acer905 on 9/14/2007 4:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
I don't really see it as very misleading. Out of the current generation of systems they are selling at the fastest rate, and have sold the most units.


RE: Bad title
By OddTSi on 9/14/2007 6:48:30 PM , Rating: 2
It's completely misleading. A more accurate title would be "Wii takes the lead" or "Wii is leading" or something to that effect. The "race" is FAR from over so declaring Wii the "winner" is premature and very misleading.


RE: Bad title
By siberus on 9/14/2007 9:39:56 PM , Rating: 2
Or you can read it as a clever play on words. Won= one


RE: Bad title
By omnicronx on 9/14/2007 9:51:02 PM , Rating: 2
I remember this from the last article on this.. I think these are actual sold consoles, not shipped consoles to be sold. I didn't quite trust the numbers the first time, but this makes me think these numbers are probably close.


360 still is the winner.
By thebrown13 on 9/15/07, Rating: -1
RE: 360 still is the winner.
By 3kliksphilip on 9/15/07, Rating: 0
RE: 360 still is the winner.
By Gofromiel on 9/16/2007 11:17:01 AM , Rating: 1
Well I'm sorry, but the Wii IS the only next-gen console. Do you seriously consider graphics over gameplay ? Even when only 20% of americans and 10% of europeans have HDTV sets ? Once again Nintendo revolutionize the console market where others are just playing "I have the biggest".


RE: 360 still is the winner.
By jrb531 on 9/18/2007 3:29:02 PM , Rating: 2
The 360 and PS3 can do both next gen graphics "and" gameplay.

The Wii, being just a Fad, can only claim gameplay.

Now I'm not saying that every 360 or PS3 game has great gameplay but they can have both.

No matter how had Wii tries it will never be more than last gen in graphics.

So do I prefer graphics over gameplay? No

What I do prefer is both good gameplay "and" graphics and Wii can NEVER do that.

-JB


RE: 360 still is the winner.
By Locutus465 on 9/17/2007 12:59:19 AM , Rating: 1
How do you figure this? I'd say the Wii is extreamly next gen, this is coming from someone who has an x-box & wii... The game play experience is better, and frankly offers something that previously you could really only get in an achade (or with expensive accessories) all built in to the base unit. In addition to this you can use it as a web browser, to check the weather (though the service could use some more accuracy) or to check the latest headlines... And as far as backwards compatibility... Well... The kick MS and sony's buts there!


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