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A chip to allow Wii to play backups will soon be released

With successful launches of Wii worldwide, console hackers from all over have had the opportunity break open Nintendo’s console. It’s taken only a couple of months, but creators of a “Wiinja” modchip claim that its coded IC is able to bypass the copy protection on the Wii.

As described on Emuboards, the first Wii modchip will allow direct booting of backup games of the same native region as the console. That is, a North American Wii will only be able to run software intended for North America.

The modchip is reminiscent of hardware mods from the days of the original PlayStation, requiring five wires to be soldered directly onto the Wii’s motherboard. It should go without saying that the console must first be dismantled and that the entire process would completely and utterly void the warranty.

As proof of the modchip’s operation, the developers have posted a couple videos on YouTube, demonstrating a Wii loading games burned onto recordable DVD media. A method to backup Wii games was revealed earlier this month, though the process of creating a disc image could take in the neighborhood of about fifty hours.



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Please.
By Kilim on 1/27/2007 1:47:43 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, this post is not meant for those who truly only back up games.

Play Backup Games? And that leads into "try before I buy"

and that leads into "it was ok, and I did finish it, but I see no need to buy it now cuz i played it already"

and that leads into "my friend burned me a copy but it's cool, he bought it, it's like borrowing a VHS copy of the Simpsons I missed!"

and then "um bit torrents of copies is cool, it is um....more convenient, yeah that's the ticket, MORE CONVENIENT"

and that leads into defending their actions with isolated events so they don't feel guilty.

Poeple, people! Do whatever you want, but please, please do not act like you have a right to do so.

It is truly amazing what people will use to justify their actions when it comes to THEIR money. And that leads to "Nintendo made a billion dollars, so it's no big deal that I burned a copy of Mario Galaxy."

Of course, this has not happened yet, but I am more offended by the BS people will spew to defend their priacy more than I am the piracy. But that's me. Of course, you have a right to comment on this post, criticism will help me evaluate my opinions so I thank you for any criticisms you may have.





RE: Please.
By LumbergTech on 1/27/2007 6:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
i got burned by half baked products too many times when i was younger to be willing to gamble 50 dollars on a pile of crap..



RE: Please.
By KashGarinn on 1/28/2007 8:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
You're an idiot, and you can quote me on that.

If I ever scratch my Wii game CDs so they're unplayable, I'll use backups. Plain and simple.

What you do with your wii, up to you.

K.


RE: Please.
By Pandamonium on 1/29/2007 11:32:20 PM , Rating: 2
Have you ever heard of the term slippery slope? Because that's the premise of your argument. Why don't you develop a line of reasoning that is reasonably plausible?

To continue that which you began:
-Nintendo holds US tourists hostage, demanding compensation for "lost revenue" from video game piracy
-WTO imposes trade embargo on Japan until tourists are released
-Japan reciprocates, stopping PS3 shipments
-A stalemate ensues
-Months later, an entertainment-starved US surrounds Japan with military warships
-Nintendo panics, gets Japan to attack large ships
-War follows
-Japan wants to end it; launches nuclear weapons
-US sees nuclear threat, retaliates
-World as we know it ends

Post something with substance next time.


Listen...
By bigpimpatl on 1/27/2007 9:16:33 PM , Rating: 2
for all you people out there that complain about pirates and such, you should know that the modchip requires you to open your wii and solder the chip on. I don't know too many people with wiis who would risk voiding their warranty and possibly damaging the wii motherboard in the process. You really have to go the extra mile to put the modchip on. And don't think that just because you think it's easy to solder on a few wires that it would be just as easy for someone who is not familiar or is non technical when it comes to these things.

SUMMARY: The people who mod their Wiis are such a small, minuscule minority that it has absolutely no effect whatsoever on any kind of video game sales and such.




RE: Listen...
By clayclws on 1/27/2007 10:10:16 PM , Rating: 2
In my country, every console out there has already been implanted with these modchips...sans the new ones of course. But they will in due time. Every console sold here are capable of playing backup/pirated games from the moment you purchase it. They don't really care about the warranty...the console will work :)


RE: Listen...
By clayclws on 1/27/2007 10:13:30 PM , Rating: 2
When I said new ones, they mean the Wii & PS3. Xbox360 is already in the transistion. Every new/first-hand PS1, PS2, GC, Xbox, etc. that you can buy here are already implanted with modchips.


Cool
By Avalon on 1/27/2007 10:33:36 AM , Rating: 2
Would have been perfect to have had a backup of Wii sports before someone stole my copy...




RE: Cool
By michal1980 on 1/27/07, Rating: -1
RE: Cool
By CrazyBernie on 1/27/2007 4:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
You're asking for clarification of why someone would steal something. Good show.


RE: Cool
By encryptkeeper on 1/29/2007 9:42:23 AM , Rating: 2
I swear, this michael1980 guy doesn't have a post rated higher than 0. And that's giving him three quarters of a negative point just to be at zero. I think all he does in life is find posts positive for Nintendo and negative for Sony and cry about them. Give it a rest man.


Blah
By Furen on 1/27/07, Rating: 0
RE: Blah
By Furen on 1/27/07, Rating: 0
RE: Blah
By Rockjock51 on 1/27/2007 5:38:36 PM , Rating: 2
The problem with the Dreamcast had a lot more to it than just piracy. I agree that piracy was a big part of it, but there has been a mod chip for just about every console since the PlayStation. The Wii has no more to worry about than the 360 or the PS3, or the PS2 and original XBox for that matter. The Dreamcast didn't need any kind of chip at all. You could just burn ripped games from the internet straight to a standard CD and viola, you're playing.


Massive Seller
By porkster on 1/27/2007 11:19:05 AM , Rating: 2
The chip will make alot fo sales.




...meh
By NotAok on 1/28/2007 1:37:18 PM , Rating: 2
No point in modding a system that doesn't have any good games... Once good titles start rolling out though it'll obviously be worth it.




DVD Playback
By f1sh3r on 1/29/2007 9:25:19 PM , Rating: 2
Im waiting for a mod chip that will let me watch a DVD, and maybe throw an external hard drive into the back usb ports. That would be good enough for me.




....
By AppaYipYip on 1/27/07, Rating: -1
RE: ....
By KaiserCSS on 1/27/2007 9:14:04 AM , Rating: 3
Read: A chip to allow Wii to play backups will soon be released.

That doesn't necessarily mean only pirates will use this modchip. I might look into this, as I've already scratched a couple Wii games (darn slot-loading).

Anyway, it's just so damn fun to tinker with new toys and see what you can do with 'em. That's the aim of most console hackers anyway (I hope): learn what you can do with a console to either make something new out of it or boost some sort of capability (such as a larger hard drive for the 360 or being able to run Linux on the Xbox.)

But of course, there are always going to be those select few morons who will pirate games. That's unavoidable. But the blame doesn't rest on the modder's shoulders, it lies on the pirate's.


RE: ....
By Furen on 1/27/2007 9:25:43 AM , Rating: 1
Hah, that's like saying that the people who used Napster back before it got screwed over used it to download only that music for backup purposes only. People who thinker with machines in the ways you describe are a very small minority, the same with people who plan on making legitimate backups.

I do think it's harsh to penalize this minority for the actions of those who are just too cheap to buy the games but let's be realistic about the real target audience for these kinds of products.


RE: ....
By Tanclearas on 1/27/2007 10:03:00 AM , Rating: 5
I don't mind that the manufacturers implement copy protection. However, I believe they should be forced by law to provide replacement disks (at cost of disk only) should someone provide a damaged one.

One disk of my Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Saturn was damaged, and Sega's response was basically, "Oh well". The game still goes for over $100 used.

I am very careful with my disks, but stuff can still happen. If a manufacturer prevents me from making legitimate backups (something that I am legally entitled to do), then it should be the manufacturer's legal responsibility to provide replacement disks.


RE: ....
By MultiCore on 1/28/2007 12:08:48 AM , Rating: 2
You're spot on man.

I love the idea of mandatory replacement disks...I need my Panzer Dragoon Orta disc replaced.

:)


RE: ....
By CrazyBernie on 1/27/2007 4:36:23 PM , Rating: 3
Oh COME NOW, we all know that if you're modifying something to work outside its original purposes, then CLEARLY you are an EVIL person and must be PUNISHED! May the gods of the RIAA, MPAA, and all other organizations that care nothing for their customers and everything for their profit margins STRIKE YOU DOWN!!! <insert crazed, maniacal laughter here>


RE: ....
By MrSmurf on 1/28/2007 12:00:16 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
"Read: A chip to allow Wii to play backups will soon be released.

That doesn't necessarily mean only pirates will use this modchip."


Don't be stupid. People just say "backup" because they think it makes what they're doing legal by placing the blame of people who abuse they 'gift' to the .000001% of the people who use it to backup their games.


RE: ....
By Samus on 1/27/07, Rating: -1
RE: ....
By SixDixonCider on 1/27/2007 11:56:11 AM , Rating: 4
Dude, Nintendo is aiming to be innovative. If you're going to cry about the Wii, don't buy it. I myself, will invest heavily into Nintendo's products for the Wii. My money goes to support creative companies.
$50 dollars is not alot of money. I understand that not everyone's income is the same, so if I were you, I'd do my homework, and read reviews. See what other people are saying about the crappy/good games, or go rent it. Pirating games is terrible because programmers/engineers need to feed their families just as much as the man who flips your patties, washes your car, dry cleans your clothes.


RE: ....
By dagamer34 on 1/27/2007 12:13:45 PM , Rating: 4
Im sorry, the shear fact that the probably spend a lot of money on R&D to pay people to design the Wii just doesn't seem to hit home in your head.

Cost of materials != Cost we pay.


RE: ....
By cochy on 1/27/2007 2:48:51 PM , Rating: 2
Well one thing I might agree with this poster is that the Wii controllers do seem over-priced (all console controllers are) but the wii especially since you need to buy the wiimote separately from the nanchuck. Why not bundle them at least?


RE: ....
By Belegost on 1/27/2007 9:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
So I took a look at pricing on console controllers:

X360 wireless controller - 49.99
PS3 SIXAXIS controller - 49.99
Wii Remote - 39.99
Wii Nunchuk - 19.99

So, an extra 10 dollars...
<sarcasm>
Oh the price gouging bastards!
</sarcasm>


RE: ....
By CrazyBernie on 1/27/07, Rating: -1
RE: ....
By slacker57 on 1/29/2007 1:14:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why am I paying $50 for farcry when its $20 on XBOX and looks three times better.


Um, if you were a person of any intelligence you wouldn't be. You'd be spending that money on Zelda or the upcoming Mario and Metroid games and games that are actually designed around the concept of the new controller. If the Wii is what finally brought 4-year-old games like Farcry to your attention, it's hard to imagine that there's an electrical outlet to plug your Wii into in the cave you live in.

quote:
The hardware is grossly overpriced. $64.96 for a controller near me (wiimote, nunchuk, tax) and ideally you need 4 of these. So $250+ in controllers alone.


Ideally, you need 4 controllers to play a single-player FPS game?

Although, on some level, I agree that the pricing of the controllers is a bit off. It's nice to get one free with the box, but if you plan on doing anything multiplayer, you're going to have to shell out more than you would for a game. I don't understand why they can't package the nunchuk in with a wiimote. Are 2 buttons and an analog stick really worth 20 bucks?


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