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Wii and DS are back on top

All good things must come to an end, or so they say, and so the Xbox 360’s brief stint as the top selling console of the month has come to an end. After riding the marketing tsunami that was Halo 3, the Xbox 360 gave the lead back to Nintendo during October.

The Nintendo Wii and DS reclaimed the top two positions, with the home console selling 519,000 units and the dual-screen handheld moving 458,000.

While a far cry from its 527,000 unit September, the Xbox 360 continued its strong performance by selling 366,000 consoles.

Sony’s three in-market systems made up the bottom half of the list, with the PlayStation Portable leading with 286,000 – no doubt helped by the release of the slimmer, lighter hardware. The PlayStation 2 refuses to go away, selling 184,000 throughout the month.

The PlayStation 3 underperformed to Sony’s expectations once again, with only 121,000 sold. Mind you, those sales came just before the introduction of the $399 40GB PS3, which according to Sony has helped sales of its newest console triple.

While the Xbox 360 may have given up its crown in October, Halo 3 retained the top spot on the software chart with 433,800 copies sold. In terms of cross-platform releases, however, Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock lives up to Activision’s sales expectations selling more than a combined total of 1.17 million units across the Xbox 360, Wii and PS2 – taking up the next three spots behind Halo 3.



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November will be interesting...
By BansheeX on 11/19/2007 10:18:37 AM , Rating: 2
The PS3 went from $500 to $320 (K-Mart deal, still going on) in a matter of a few weeks. It may not give them the top spot, but it will be interesting to see how many they start moving from here on out.




RE: November will be interesting...
By DEVGRU on 11/19/2007 10:45:43 AM , Rating: 1
...Which means nothing. The PS3 suffers from the same phenomena that Apple does. Hypothetically, one can have the best hardware in the world, for free, and people still won't bother unless theres quality titles to play. Yes, the PS3 has a handful (3? 4?) - but nothing that justifies the cost, even now.


RE: November will be interesting...
By dflynchimp on 11/19/2007 11:10:55 AM , Rating: 5
except Apple's hardware is a far cry from being the best hardware in the world...


By michael2k on 11/19/2007 2:05:45 PM , Rating: 3
And Apple sells 6 times as many Macs as Sony sells PS3s.


RE: November will be interesting...
By BansheeX on 11/19/2007 11:26:13 AM , Rating: 2
You've essentially just bashed 360/PS3 cross-platform titles in the same breath, since the majority of games are non-exclusives. That includes, CoD4, Assasin's Creed, Oblivion, Rock Band, Guitar Hero III, etc. Nice going, slick.

Also, GoW and BioShock are on the PC with Mass Effect and Halo 3 likely to follow. Conversely, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, and MGS will never see the light of day on another platform.


By Locutus465 on 11/19/2007 11:39:37 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps, but Rachet and Clank don't seem to have the same marketing force in general as Halo/Gears/Bio Shock do. I'm not saying it's a bad game, I'm sure it's very enjoyable. But near as I can tell it doesn't have the marketing punch of the x-box exclusives (or console exclusives in the case of Halo 3 which won't see light of day on the PC until the 360 is obsoleet).


RE: November will be interesting...
By FITCamaro on 11/19/2007 11:51:05 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Also, GoW and BioShock are on the PC with Mass Effect and Halo 3 likely to follow.


However not everyone has a PC capable of playing Bioshock and Gears of War. And I doubt Mass Effect will ever come out on PC. Halo 3 likely will but it will be 2-3 years just like it was for Halo 2. Is anyone seriously going to be waiting that long just to play it? Doubtful.

And even Kojima has said that MGS4 might come out on other platforms (read, the 360) due to the poor sales performance of the PS3. And considering its sales are still nothing to get excited over (save the spikes at times of price drops), its release on the 360 looks better and better. So don't count it out that the game won't grace the 360 with its presence just yet.

Uncharted looks nice, but its not like its a game that breaks down any barriers as far as gameplay goes. And the majority of us can probably live with never playing Ratchet and Clank.

As a side note, I bought Assassin's Creed on the 360 this weekend. All I'll say is, damn. Save the fighting system that takes some time getting used to, its amazing. Oh and yeah the AI can be a bit dumb. The game definitely isn't for anyone who doesn't have some patience though.


RE: November will be interesting...
By StevoLincolnite on 11/19/2007 11:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
The Majority of people can run Bioshock - People have managed to get the game running on Radeon 9600's and 9550's.
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=...

Oblivion can also run on almost any card, (Geforce 3 Ti200 and Radeon 8500 and higher).
http://www.oldblivion.com/

I also know someone who got Two Worlds running on a Geforce 6150LE. (Thats a seriously crappy card, 2 Pixel shaders).

And... A voodoo 2 12mb running Doom 3.
http://www.slcentral.com/boards/slnews/5068-doom-3...

Similar things exist for most of these GPU hungry games these days, People are starting do write they're own shaders and getting rather nice results.

And a friend also got Crysis running on a Pentium 3 1ghz, 512mb of ram, Radeon 9600pro.
http://www.oldblivion.com/sm/index.php?topic=4493.


RE: November will be interesting...
By Locutus465 on 11/19/2007 11:53:54 PM , Rating: 2
And I'm sure they're all getting every bit the game experience they'd be getting on an x-box 360...


RE: November will be interesting...
By on 11/20/2007 12:31:11 AM , Rating: 2
Hell yeah they can! They can watch porn at the same time!


RE: November will be interesting...
By StevoLincolnite on 11/20/2007 1:54:34 AM , Rating: 2
Of course they are, its not like Gameplay is actually affected, only the graphics.
And then if some people have a 360 and a normal CRT Tele' that isn't HD Compatible, then I would rather play it on PC for the higher resolutions anyway.


RE: November will be interesting...
By Locutus465 on 11/20/2007 9:44:28 AM , Rating: 2
What good is higher res if you can't get the detail and effects?


By StevoLincolnite on 11/21/2007 2:22:37 AM , Rating: 2
You can always lower the res and increase the detail, Thats why PC's are so good, you can sacrifice one aspect of visual quality for another.
Don't want shadows but better looking textures? Then do so, Don't want AA but a higher resolution? Done.
Rather use Bloom + AA instead of HDR? easy fix.


By Omega215D on 11/20/2007 12:56:37 AM , Rating: 2
Ok, the newly released XBOX360 game Mass Effect was noted for having some slowdown due to the graphics. This is not the only game to suffer from such a thing on this system.

Remember, PC games are usually known to take graphics and other bits a step further than their console counterparts and eventually when more powerful hardware comes out there'll be more games that make use of the engine. If everyone kept designing for the lowest common denominator then we'll be behind the consoles in terms of graphics, physics and maybe AI. That's how it is. I still remember how Deus Ex: IW was gimped due to the restraints of the XBOX when it was ported to the PC.

I cam run Gears of War pretty well on my old GeForce 6600GT and got even better results with the 7900GS. Same goes for Bioshock and HL2. And it seems that the Unreal 3 engine isn't too bad when it comes to hardware requirements.


RE: November will be interesting...
By sweetsauce on 11/19/07, Rating: -1
RE: November will be interesting...
By baloubic on 11/19/2007 1:25:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That pc argument is so lame. Bioshock and the like are CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE.

Huh? I'm playing Bioshock on my PC just about every day. Love it.


By Omega215D on 11/19/2007 2:07:33 PM , Rating: 3
Before calling it lame realize the fact that Bioshock was released on the PC and XBOX the same time. Then of course the Gears of War PC edition comes with extras that the XBOX doesn't have (yet?) but worth is another thing.

Then the PC has Crysis which for now is a PC exclusive. Each console has their great games exclusive to them so no need to bash.


RE: November will be interesting...
By Bigjee on 11/19/2007 3:23:12 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That pc argument is so lame. Bioshock and the like are CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE. And when they do eventually land on the pc, the games are part of the 360 bargain bin. On a side note, i wouldn't be proud of having the inferior game between the 2 next gen platforms, it only goes to reinforce the fact that buying a ps3 is not needed.


You are living proof as to why stupid people should not reproduce.


RE: November will be interesting...
By Drexial on 11/19/2007 1:32:15 PM , Rating: 2
you missed the point.... he said the tiles weren't worth the cost of a PS3 if they are cross platform, then you can pick up a 360 and play them cheaper. If its a cross platform title then you can buy any system its on and play it. So why would those titles have any effect on system sales?


By MGSsancho on 11/19/2007 2:20:55 PM , Rating: 2
Apple can contract almost any computer manufacturing company to make their computer products. yes it takes time to ramp up but the internals are not exotic.

But I do see what you are trying to say. And yes I will agree with you in a way, even good equipment that looks nice can sometime be hard to sell with out software to go with it. but with cheap macs, people could install any other OS on it. Again I agree with your argument in general


RE: November will be interesting...
By tedrodai on 11/19/2007 2:47:56 PM , Rating: 2
I disagree. The price of the console is their #1 problem, hands down. I'm one of the first to bash the PS3 and argue against them when discussions arise concerning whether the new $400 version is worth the price; but when my brother informed me of the Kmart deal the other day, I almost wished I had waited to purchase my Wii (have had it for 4-5
months now). For $320, I'd jump all over the PS3--if I'd not already thrown this years (and probably next year's) game console budget towards another system. Even my BROTHER may buy it with this Kmart deal, and he rarely even played my consoles when we were kids or in college, much less owned one for himself (I'm afraid I may have monopolized them back then--was a bad kid in that respect). We play a lot of PC games as well, but if anyone can get my borther and I to consider buying a PS3 (seperately), they're finally doing something right.


RE: November will be interesting...
By Bigjee on 11/19/2007 3:16:57 PM , Rating: 1
Man i'm sick of how comments like these fill up forums everyday. Comments like "oh PS3 has such a weak set of games compared to the 360 and the Wii" yes it does have a weak library BUT it always will have fewer games than 360 since it was released a year later. Its kinda like saying the PC is the best gaming platform and even better than the 360 or Wii cos it has biggest library of games.

Bottomline: stop with the BS that there are only 3-4 games good on the PS3 cos since the fall its all changed. Stores have good PS3 titles its just that people like you fail to see them. There are good titles that have released on the 360 and the PS3. LOOK at review sites like gamespot and ign and take ideas from there & not some FANBOY flaming crap.

Oh and by the way incase you're wondering ; i have the 360 and the PS3 so don't bring that fanboy crap here.


RE: November will be interesting...
By on 11/20/2007 12:34:52 AM , Rating: 1
Wii fanboy crap: ZOMG U SPENT A GRAND ON ENERGY BURN SYSTEMS WII HAS MOTION XBOX 360 BREAKS PS3 FAILED WHO NEEDS MOVIES WII SO AWESOME YAYYYYYYYYYYY!


region
By semo on 11/19/2007 1:53:10 PM , Rating: 2
what region are these figures for, worldwide? how's the ps3 doing in japan?




RE: region
By Marcus Yam on 11/19/2007 2:16:33 PM , Rating: 2
These are for U.S. sales.


RE: region
By Bigjee on 11/19/2007 3:29:06 PM , Rating: 2
In japan the PS3 topped sales over Wii and the 360. The 360 isn't favored at all in japan. Its in an another article here on dailytech.

Worldwide it was the 360, for a while after the Halo 3 launch, but looks like the Wii has regained the top spot.....for now.


RE: region
By mmntech on 11/19/2007 8:47:05 PM , Rating: 2
Of course the PS3 and Wii are going to do well in Japan since a lot of the advertising and software is targeted at that audience. That and a lot of people around the world loath Microsoft with a passion.

November and December will be interesting given that this is the time of year people will be buying gifts for Christmas. Big ticket items are expected to be huge this season and since toy and entertainment companies can make the biggest chunk of their sales in December alone, those are the numbers that really matter. There's no surprises with October's numbers. I think year two though is what's going to make or break the Wii and PS3 though. They'll start getting some better titles. Also the market for 360s will start to get saturated in 2008 so we can expect it's sales to begin a steady decline.


RE: region
By nerdye on 11/19/2007 10:45:43 PM , Rating: 2
You are correct in the fact that the ps3 and wii do well in japan as they do have a lot of marketing force and loyalty in that region. We are just finaly seeing some good titles for the ps3 and it will pick up on console sales world wide on account of that fact.

But I do not agree that 360 will see its consoles sales decline on account to a so called "saturation" point, xbox 360 consoles sales have not yet exceeded 15 million units worldwide, and the ps2 sold around 120 million going strong, unless all game developers decide to stop making 360 games all of a sudden even though it has a far larger market base then ps3 in the high end console arena, I fail to see your point.


By inperfectdarkness on 11/20/2007 10:38:36 AM , Rating: 2
even microsoft wishes it had nintendo stock right about now.




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