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WidoPC's newest gaming notebooks gets some serious firepower

WidowPC announced today that it is shipping its first notebook based around NVIDIA's 512MB GeForce 8800M GTX GPU.

The new Sting 517D2 pairs the GeForce 8800M GTX GPU with a 17" (WSXGA+ or WUXGA) display. Intel's Core 2 Duo processors power the notebooks and up to 4GB of DDR2 memory and 1GB of Intel TurboMemory can be added to enhance the gaming experience.

"The new GeForce 8800M GPUs allow gamers to have the ultimate gaming experience on a mobile platform," said Joshua McClure, General Manager at WidowPC. "These new 8800M video cards are exactly what the doctor ordered to play Crysis at advanced levels of visual realism. We’re proud to be the first in North America to ship this incredible performance enhancer."

The Sting 517D2 has a base price of $2,799 and comes standard with an Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 processor, WSXGA+ display, 1GB of DDR2 memory and a GeForce 8700M GT 512MB GPU. The GeForce 8800M GTX GPU can be added for a whopping $738. Another notable option is the MTRON 32GB SSD which can be had for an additional $1,137.



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Jeez
By Polynikes on 12/19/2007 2:37:55 PM , Rating: 2
That's ridiculously expensive. I wonder how much a CPU upgrade costs.




RE: Jeez
By MADAOO7 on 12/19/2007 3:03:26 PM , Rating: 3
It just blows my mind that people need something like this in a laptop. You could have a nice HP laptop and build a nasty desktop with all the trimmings for that cost. Who is buying these kinds of laptops?


RE: Jeez
By ksherman on 12/19/2007 3:10:59 PM , Rating: 3
People who don't want to/can't have/isn't practical for them to have a desktop. I ditched my desktop and replaced it with a sweet laptop (MacBook Pro) so I can do my work anywhere. Though, I a not gaming on the lappy very much, I would LOVE it if I had as good a video card as the 8800M GT.


RE: Jeez
By MightyAA on 12/19/2007 3:45:22 PM , Rating: 2
Also folks like me that need a office rig, a laptop for presentations on the road and a home gaming rig. I've got $6k worth of software alone that can only be loaded onto a single machine. So why would $3-4k seem like a lot when the alternate is $6k of software x 3 machines? A laptop replaced a ton of redundancy in my life. The side benefit is working/playing by the pool or out on the deck on a nice day... how's your desk?

btw; that price is cheap if it comes with everything...


RE: Jeez
By othercents on 12/19/2007 4:27:33 PM , Rating: 1
I personally don't have a desk, so laptop is a great choice for me. Grab the laptop in front of the TV while my desktop is connected to my LCD TV.

Other


RE: Jeez
By Chadder007 on 12/19/2007 4:18:50 PM , Rating: 3
For the price of the Macbook Pro's they should come with the 8800M GT.


RE: Jeez
By phaxmohdem on 12/20/2007 1:42:38 AM , Rating: 1
For the price you'd think they would come with a decent friggin' LCD panel as opposed to some of the lowest res screens in the industry. Especially since they are pandering to the imaging/video editing crowd, 1440x900 is ridiculous IMO. 1680x1050 should be the minimum on a decent 15" Wide LCD panel. Oh well, somebody has to keep paying for Mr. Job's turtlenecks, it just won't be me.


RE: Jeez
By Marlowe on 12/20/2007 5:16:01 AM , Rating: 3
Hmm.. 1280x800 is also normal on a 15.4" screen. 1440x900 is nicer in my opinion and maby best suited for the size many will agree. 1680x1050 is pretty extreme on such a screen? At least unless one use software that compensates with making text larger.

At my work we have 15.4" Fujitsu Siemens laptops with 1440x900 default resolution. Still there are several of people here who put lower resolution (knowingly making the display kind of unclear since it's non-default for the LCD) because they think text is too small.

I guess it's a matter of taste and eyesight, I'm sure you agree, phax. "Ridiculus" isn't really the word you're after here. There is always someone who wants it different, like yourself. I think Apples chosen resolution of 1440x900 resolution will fit most people fine.


RE: Jeez
By phaxmohdem on 12/20/2007 10:23:30 AM , Rating: 2
You are correct, ultimately I suppose it is a matter of taste and eye-sight as you put it... though I think it would at least be nice for Apple to offer a WSXGA+ 15 inch screen as an option... Lenovo's Professional series Thinkpads have had this option for years.


RE: Jeez
By Flunk on 12/19/2007 6:01:32 PM , Rating: 2
I bought a powerful gaming rig and a fairly cheap notebook for far less than the price of this notebook. Which is also another option for those who simply must be mobile.


Why News?
By jbizzler on 12/19/2007 3:12:58 PM , Rating: 4
Sager, Eurocom, and various other Clevo resellers have been taking preorders for this EXACT SAME notebook for a few weeks now, and the prices are hundreds lower. Look at the base config of the Sager here.
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5792-custom-laptop-...
$2000 for a machine far better than the standard Widow.




RE: Why News?
By FITCamaro on 12/19/2007 3:17:39 PM , Rating: 2
I have an old Sager 5680. Was top of the line at the time. Cost me $2200 and was equivalent to a $3500 Dell laptop. Still works but theres a crack on the screen backing at the left edge and goes across the hinge so opening it is dangerous. I can get it fixed I just haven't wanted to pony up the $150. Kind of pisses me off though because it happened once under warranty and they fixed it. Then it happened again a year later.

A friend had the same exact laptop(ordered at the same time) and he never had a problem.


RE: Why News?
By Operandi on 12/19/2007 4:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
So who actually builds these?


RE: Why News?
By MightyAA on 12/19/2007 6:53:16 PM , Rating: 2
Clevo developes/builds the barebone (Tier 1). Everyone else rebrands it; some customize it like adding performance ram, others just slap a sticker on and ship it.

I prefer Killernotebooks. They at least crack it open, cnc machine a new cooling system, then finish assembling the components in it... but they don't do it cheap.


RE: Why News?
By TMV192 on 12/19/2007 11:58:31 PM , Rating: 2
yes I agree, its bad enough so many people don't know who's really making these laptops, a respected site like DailyTech should certainly have noted the link to Clevo. And just to add to what you said, Sager is usually the cheapest manufacturer of Clevo laptops and VoodooPC being the most expensive


Why Turbo Cache?
By littlebitstrouds on 12/19/2007 2:37:26 PM , Rating: 2
With 4gb of ram is turbo cache even needed? That's just onboard ram for readyboost isn't it?

Nasty machine though.




RE: Why Turbo Cache?
By MrTeal on 12/19/2007 2:55:57 PM , Rating: 1
I believe TurboCache is the scheme NVidia uses on their cheap cards to use system ram instead of dedicated video ram.


RE: Why Turbo Cache?
By FITCamaro on 12/19/2007 3:13:59 PM , Rating: 2
The TurboMemory is for Vista's ReadyBoost feature. Similiar to plugging in a USB thumbdrive.


RE: Why Turbo Cache?
By Souka on 12/19/2007 3:23:24 PM , Rating: 4
yeah... I love the quote though.. "1GB of Intel TurboMemory can be added to enhance the gaming experience."

Heh... enhance gaming experience... marketing folk trying to talk tech....


738 bucks?!
By daftrok on 12/19/2007 3:02:03 PM , Rating: 3
Now if you were upgrading from like X3100 to 8800 then that price would be SOMEWHAT understandable but this is an upgrade from 8700 to 8800...so....wtf?




RE: 738 bucks?!
By MightyAA on 12/19/2007 4:02:58 PM , Rating: 2
NVidia is setting the price very high (heard $600+/- wholesale) and availability is questionable.. On top of this fiasco is that the majority of "new" machines bought in the last few weeks can't upgrade without a new motherboard. Example: Widow uses Clevo rigs.. 901c will work (uses desktop components), 570ru (mobile components) will not at this time. It's a lot to pay for DX10 and a 10% speed increase over the year old M7950GTX which was half that price..... I thought I also heard NVidia has stopped production on the 7950, so they are bending over the gaming laptop community. ATI, where are you?

Not sure if all I've heard is true. Rumors have been floating for months in anticipation..


RE: 738 bucks?!
By FITCamaro on 12/19/2007 4:09:34 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously this is not the issue if Sager is offering laptops with this GPU, more RAM, and a better CPU for $2000.

They're overcharging because their name is on the thing.


RE: 738 bucks?!
By MightyAA on 12/19/2007 6:46:14 PM , Rating: 2
Sager uses the Clevo rig too....m570ru (old), m571ru (new mobo). They don't even do anything but put a sticker on it. And it's $2,200 base. Note only the NP5792 can get the 8800m. The NP5791 has the older motherboard and can't use the new gpu....


By NicePants42 on 12/19/2007 4:53:23 PM , Rating: 3
They keep using that word. I don't think it means what they think it means. /Inigo

Seriously though, how the hell does anyone get excited about the 'ultimate' anything anymore? Every time someone uses that word I want to punch them in the throat. Say something meaningful!




By enlil242 on 12/19/2007 5:44:41 PM , Rating: 3
Yours, in my mind, was the ultimate post!


Expensive
By AggressorPrime on 12/20/2007 5:21:16 AM , Rating: 2
That is expensive. I got my notebook for nearly $1500 including a GeForce 8600M GT which was top this summer. Since Alienware will be offering a 15" notebook with GeForce 8800M GTX soon for $2000, I see that as a much better option for gamers than what WidowPC is offering.




RE: Expensive
By jbizzler on 12/20/2007 7:16:47 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I got a $1300 Dell like this:

1280x800 glossy screen
8600M GT
2GB of RAM
160GB 5200RPM HD

And I have to say I love it. But it was only that cheap because I got it at the best time, when the RAM and HD were free and there was a $200 coupon I found at notebookreviews.com. Otherwise it would have been nearly $1700-$1800. Silly.

But I'm interested to see how Alienware (or should I say Arima I believe) is going to fit an 8800M GTX into a 15.4'' notebook at any sort of a reasonable price.


stupid
By BlueNC79 on 12/19/2007 4:40:56 PM , Rating: 1
1 gig of ram? Yeah...screw that.




RE: stupid
By SirLucius on 12/19/2007 7:33:56 PM , Rating: 2
Just upgrade yourself. I've always gotten the cheapest RAM options when buying laptops and then bought sticks from Newegg for far less. Most OEM companies overcharge for their memory upgrades. Dell is infamous. There was a time when they were charging close to $700 to upgrade to 4GB of RAM when you could get higher quality memory from someone else for like 1/5 of the price. Save for the xoticpc link above where the upgrade to 4GB is like $50, most companies give you overpriced, crappy memory sticks.


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