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It's a two disc set that's NOT a silly collector's edition
God of War II is the ultimate non-collector's edition

God of War II does absolutely everything right. It is undoubtedly the best action-adventure game thus far this year for any system, and is the ultimate swan song for the PlayStation 2. I won’t sit here and sing the praises of its near-perfect gameplay and pacing, as you can do that yourself by reading any review you want, but instead, there are several things I want to touch upon that God of War II does better than nearly any game.

As far as collector’s editions go, God of War II is one of the best. Oh wait, God of War II doesn’t have a collector’s edition. That’s because collector’s editions suck, and God of War II is anything but suck.

Collector’s editions are little more than a cash grab by the publisher to squeeze a few more dollars out of the consumer. Okay, that may be a bit harsh, but after seeing what collector sets look like in Japan, I really do feel that the Western market has a long way to go in terms of learning what “collector” means.

Most collector’s editions cost $10 more than the regular edition, and you normally get an extra special box, perhaps made of tin, that looks pretty but does not fit very well on the rack next to your games. I didn’t buy a collector’s edition of a game all throughout last year. It was difficult passing up on the Gears of War CE because it including documentary material, for which I am usually deeply interested in. The Lost Planet CE was little more than joke. The only “extra swag material” that I got last year was the pre-order bonus EB Games offered with Castlevania: POR, which was a Japan-level set of goodies. Kudos to the marketers at Konami and GameStop.

Going back to God of War II, there was no collector’s edition for that game – even when there easily could have been – because either the developer or Sony decided to make every edition of the game a collector’s edition (by today’s standards of what it means to be a CE). Every copy of GoW II is a two disc set complete with a DVD dedicated to the making of the game. The first God of War was also good about this too, with all the documentary material unlocked after completing the game.

I understand that the extra $10 for the collector’s edition pays for the bonuses that one may get, and no one is forcing me to buy the extra bits, but I’m just so impressed with SCEA’s decision to put all the extra material into one edition for everyone. I’m not even sure if the average gamer would watch any of the bonus material after completing the game, but I did – and it gave me an even greater appreciation for the hard work that went into development.

I’ll likely be picking up the CE for Halo 3 (but not the insane $130 that Bungie/Microsoft wants for the insane Legendary edition) because I’ll want to know more about the game’s evolution after I finish the single player story.

There’s a bit of a grey area in my tolerance for collector’s editions of games. If games eventually go the way of special editions do for DVD, I suppose I’d be ok with that. With DVD movies, many releases don’t come with an extra disc of features, though there may be the odd bonus trailer or interview thrown in for that extra bulletpoint on the back of the box. For the true movie nut, there could be a special collector’s box set with an overload of extras. Still, the regular edition would feature a small helping of extra material, such as a commentary, for those who want to learn more without committing more time than it takes to watch the original work.

What I wouldn’t want to see from the DVD industry, however, are damned double-dipping strategies. I know that the developers of Devil May Cry 3 and Ninja Gaiden didn’t originally plan for follow-up, upgraded releases of those games, but it irks me when a superior version of a product that I’ve already purchased gets released. (No complaints over remakes though, I’m anxiously waiting for Ninja Gaiden Sigma.)

What bothers me even more is when collector’s editions have some sort of content that’s exclusive and cannot be obtained in the regular edition.  The upcoming collector’s edition of Spider-Man 3 for PS3 has an exclusive game mode where the player can assume the role of the new goblin. Now if this feature was exclusive to all the PS3 versions of the game, it may be understandable since Spider-Man 3 is a Sony Picture and the extra new goblin game mode uses the Sixaxis controller. But no, if you want new goblin, you gotta pony up the extra $10.

Another upcoming game on my radar is The Darkness, currently under development by Starbreeze Studios. Exclusive to the PS3 version will be extra interviews and other documentary material. The reason for the extra material to be PS3 exclusive is supposedly because of the extra space afforded by the Blu-ray Disc media. I don’t have a big problem with this because the extra content on PS3 will not come at a higher price point, though I don’t see why it couldn’t be put on a second disc for the Xbox 360 version. As an aside, I really enjoyed the developer commentary that Starbreeze did for the Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, and hope that’s something they’ll do again.

Collector’s editions are here to stay, though I wish that more of the industry would follow the example set by God of War I and II. I’m crossing my fingers that God of War III doesn’t get a collector’s edition.



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If Sony were smart.....
By ZimZum on 4/17/2007 7:15:54 AM , Rating: 2
They would have made this a PS3 exclusive. God knows the PS3 needs all the help in its pitiful game library it can get. It sucks for end users but Microsoft was smart by essentially killing the 1st XBOX upon the release of the 360. No more new games, no more production of the consoles, nothing. Sony on the other hand continued actively market the PS2 along side the PS3.




RE: If Sony were smart.....
By Shakkan on 4/17/2007 8:45:57 AM , Rating: 1
That's why some gamers such as myself are loyal to Sony. I know that my PS3 will be supported for more than 2-3 years. MS will kill the 360 and release the 720 ASAP just to take over the market by force.

Kudos to Sony for still supporting the PS2. Consoles are enough expensive as they are now, if we need to buy one every 2-3 years, PC gaming won't look that much more expensive anymore compared to them.

Gamers who got an infinite amount of money might be interested in MS releasing the Elite but I know that I would feel ripped. To each his own I guess. :)

By the way, I just finished FFXII on my PS3 and am about to start God of War 2. I can't wait! :>


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By masher2 (blog) on 4/17/2007 9:23:30 AM , Rating: 3
> "I know that my PS3 will be supported for more than 2-3 years..."

Is this what they call exaggeration for effect? I know nothing about console games, but wasn't the XBox sold for five full years, and even though sales have stopped, there are still a few games being released for it?


By Chillin1248 (blog) on 4/17/2007 12:12:25 PM , Rating: 5
This is not as much as Sony "supporting" a the PS2 as just taking advantage of the installed base.

They have a choice:

1)- Start GOW2 from scratch with a new engine and artwork and gameplay mechanics (they would have to take advantage of the SixAxis in some way). Then sell it to a install base of under <8 million units (correct if wrong).

2)- Further touches/optimizations on the engine and gameplay mechanics as well as recycling some artwork and giving the team more time to make the game fun. Sell it to a install base of over 50> million and perhaps 100> million (have no clue of the countless numbers of the PS2).

Which one sounds smarter to make money to you?

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Chillin


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By xsilver on 4/17/2007 8:49:47 AM , Rating: 2
uh, who's side are you on exactly?
sony does something stupid with rootkits/ batteries etc. and gets canned.

but deciding to release a good game for an ageing system?

havent played the game myself but if it was good, they could do what the article mentions with spiderman 3 and produce some exclusive content for the ps3 instead; that would make people want to upgrade.

I still think however the ps3's main problem is price. not enough mum's and dads are willing to shell out $600 for their 12 year old kid to have a "game" system. For savvy 20-30 somethings that understand that its more than that, fine; but thats not where the majority of the market is.
That is one major reason the Wii is doing so well.


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By therealnickdanger on 4/17/2007 9:03:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
That is one major reason the Wii is doing so well.

That and the biggest reason: the Wii has fun games. :P


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By noirsoft on 4/17/2007 9:57:32 AM , Rating: 2
And, to bring this full circle, there would be more "fun" (I hate that word) PS3 games if Sony stopped making PS2 games and focused on making things like GOW-II for the PS3,.


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By Ard on 4/17/2007 8:48:08 PM , Rating: 2
Exclusive content takes time. Sony clearly isn't standing still here. It's not like it would've been a smart economical decision to make GoW2 a PS3 game, even if it could move some systems. That's what GoW3, Lair, LittleBigPlanet, and MGS4 (among others) are for.

In any event, I agree with the blog in the sense that GoW2 is THE shit. I'm currently making my way through Titan Mode as we speak and still having just as much fun, if not more so due to the additional skill level I have to bring myself to.


RE: If Sony were smart.....
By wallijonn on 4/17/2007 11:14:58 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Microsoft was smart by essentially killing the 1st XBOX upon the release of the 360.


And if you had any first gen games, you had to buy the HD with the 360. Now, this past season there were XBoxes being sold at Christmastime, just as there were GCs. Would you buy something which you knew was obsolete? These gamers must be buying all the old games, some new at about $20, instead of paying $60 to $65 for a new 360 or PS3 game, $50 for a Wii game.

The main reason why the XB was killed, imo, is because the graphic chipset was changed.


Controller
By Kefner on 4/17/2007 1:52:23 PM , Rating: 2
First, let me say I am not a fanboy of any system. I have pretty much owned them all at some point. God of War II looks great, but I never buy PS2 games anymore because I can not stand the PS 1-3 controller layout. Since buying a PS2 about 6 years ago, I have purchased a total of 3 games on it. I wish I could find a PS controller where the D-pad and left analog stick are swapped, like the Xbox layout. I have thought about buying one of those converters to used a Xbox controller on a PS2, but have heard about bad problems. I have always felt uncomfortable using the left analog stick since PS1. (so no, I am not just used to the Xbox controller). I really want to get a PS3 at some point, but the controller is what keeps me away (oh and the price lol). I know it is something minor, but it really irritates me with the layout. The placement of that analog stick has always just seemed to me to be out of place. I always feel like I am reaching for it, instead of it just being in good position as related to the location of my thumb.




RE: Controller
By sladeviper on 4/17/2007 9:39:06 PM , Rating: 2
I actually prefer the PS symmetrical analog stick layout over the offset layout of the Xbox pad. In games using both sticks quite a bit (action, fps), I just find it much more comfortable, natural, and better balance than if one thumb was way up on the controller and the other was down lower.

I would change a few things about the controller though. First, have a concave surface on the sticks instead of convex for better grip. The L2/R2 buttons need to be actual triggers like the Dreamcast (Which MS rip... err adopted). Lastly, the grips need to be slightly "fuller" for more comfort.


RE: Controller
By Kefner on 4/18/2007 10:20:18 AM , Rating: 2
I guess it depends on personal preference. Where the lower is more natural for you, the uppper is better for me. But I think they should offer their controllers (for PS3 and 360) where you could get it either way, but I know that will never happen. From what I understand, when 3rd parties make controllers, they have a basic layout they have to follow, so all PS controllers will have the lower stick, while the Xbox will have the higher stick. Ahh, when the days of mind controlling games get here, we will be much better off LOL!


RE: Controller
By geddarkstorm on 4/20/2007 1:52:59 PM , Rating: 2
Lol, I'm totally opposite of you. I cannot stand at all using the X-box controller. I hate that thing; could never get into Halo because of it. So I think your idea is a great one, having the ability to choose which layout suits your preferences. But alas... production costs and complexity probably keeps the companies from doing it; and they sure don't want to make adaptors, as that just promots customers to help the competition by bying their controllers for the company's consol. If only though.. if only..


No need to wait for GoW III
By SentientNr6 on 4/19/2007 8:55:44 AM , Rating: 2
A limited edition is already here. :)

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation2/4-/1011958/...




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