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Core webOS features could creep into Android

When Hewlett-Packard Comp.'s (HPQ) bold and ultimately doomed webOS experiment was terminated, many assumed that was the end.  But it turns out that webOS had more fans than it seemed and many a blog was written bemoaning the loss of innovative features like "swipe to dismiss" multitasking tiles.  WebOS even briefly managed to seize second place in tablet sales, thanks to enthusiasm surrounding the TouchPad clearance sale.

But HP has committed to open sourcing webOS and stepping out of the mobile market for now, so those who stuck it out on the "Enyo" team, a core group of webOS developers, were bound to be head somewhere else. (Enyo was the name of the open sourced version of the JavaScript framework used in webOS.)

Turns out that "somewhere else" is Google Inc. (GOOG), makers of the world's most used smartphone operating system, Android, according a report by The Verge.  The tie-up seems a natural fit.  After all, many members of Android's team are already veterans of Palm, whom HP acquired webOS and the webOS team from.  Android's design chief Matias Duarte is an ex-Palm veteran, who launched just before the launch of the original Pre.

Enyo 2.0
The team responsible for open-sourcing webOS is jumping ship to the Android team.
[Image Source: webOS Nation]

Despite these departures, HP says it will stick to the plan to open source webOS, starting with the first finished Enyo release.  The company writes:

We're pleased with the traction Enyo has gained to date and plan to continue its development along with the open source community. The Open webOS project is on schedule and we remain committed to the roadmap announced in January.

A few Enyo/webOS team members will stay behind, but the individuals "responsible for 99 percent of the code", including project chief Matt McNulty, will all be departing.

Hopefully that loss of talent by HP becomes Android and its users gain.

It is unclear if the departures are tied in anyway to HP's layoffs.  HP recently announced a gloomy outlook for fiscal Q3 2012 and committed to laying off 27,000 workers -- 8 percent of its workforce -- in a restructuring bid.

Source: The Verge

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WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 3:55:55 PM , Rating: 3
Long live WebOS. ;)

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By Reclaimer77 on 5/25/2012 4:12:02 PM , Rating: 3
There's a lot of people who don't know about the Playbook or QNX Pirks. About 99.95% of planet Earth. Now either everyone else is crazy, orrrr.....

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By Kurz on 5/25/2012 4:45:09 PM , Rating: 2
Hard to keep track of all the different Flocks around here.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By nafhan on 5/25/2012 5:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
You eat food every day don't you? You are such a sheep! Eating food every day just like everyone else!

Sometimes, public opinion goes a certain way because people are mindless sheep, a lot of times public opinion goes a certain way because the alternative is moronic.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 5:09:18 PM , Rating: 2
"Those idiots will wait for WebOS forever, while smart Playbook users have WebOS NOW :P"

I told you Pirks. Save it for recess or google it after school.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 6:10:08 PM , Rating: 5
Pirks, everyone knows what Playbook is. There were overwhelmingly bad reviews of it all over the web when it came out. It was all over the web again RIM dumped the price from $500 to $200 because it wasn't selling.

As far as your tired "crapdroid" phrase, its really lost and offbase. Android 4 is fast solid, stable, compatible and flexible. Exactly everything I am looking for in a mobile phone OS. What exactly is your point here? This is an article about WebOS developers going to work on Android. There really isnt a place for Playbook here other than you trying to "troll" it through the door, so just save it for recess lil' boy.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Reclaimer77 on 5/25/2012 6:21:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL I still can't believe the Playbook, basically the same hardware as a Kindle Fire, came out at iPad prices! Wtf were they thinking? Who in the world would buy it for that. Not even Pirks!

RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 7:26:39 PM , Rating: 2
"Who in the world would buy it for that. Not even Pirks"

I'm pretty sure he did... I know he was boasting about how great it was before the price dropped from $500 to $200, so I assume he did ROFLMAO.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 7:30:51 PM , Rating: 2
"Keep lying troll"

Why do you act like a 12 year old? Seriously, the way you talk makes me think you are a child, really how old are you? I have to know.

Anyhow, a few good reviews doesn't make it as if the overwhelmingly bad reviews didn't happen. How am I a liar for saying it was released to overwhelmingly bad reviews. That is the truth and if you say it isn't, then you are lying. You may say you disagree, and you may say Anand 1/2 disagree's, because his review wasn't glowing as I recall, it had some good and some bad points.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 8:11:19 PM , Rating: 2
really, serious question, how old are you?

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/25/2012 10:02:38 PM , Rating: 2
Because he doesn't act like a child. Grumpy old man maybe ;)

Seriously, how old are you? You really need to look up the term "self awareness" and do some soul searching.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By darkhawk1980 on 5/27/2012 9:20:57 AM , Rating: 2
Soul searching at age 10 isn't going to help him.

I do find it humorous. He's got the ignorance of a 10 year old, with the ego to boot. Couple that with the real lack of making sensible arguments, ignoring counterpoints, and general lack of sentence structure and grammar, and you've got some kid that sits at a computer all night trying to act like a grown up.

Even a grumpy old man would show more intelligence than that.

At the very least, he provides plenty of laughing material. But I can say I'm glad I'm not that pathetic.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/28/2012 3:10:20 PM , Rating: 2
"He's got the ignorance of a 10 year old, with the ego to boot. Couple that with the real lack of making sensible arguments, ignoring counterpoints"

Yup. That would be Pirks in a nutshell. The sad thing is I really dont think he is actuually that young, he just acts it. It's actually a good gauge though... When he ignores the counterpoint then hyperfocuses on some other minor mundane item you know you have a valid point. One of my favorites, after laying out a dozen points where RIM is failing and the market is leaving them behind he will come back with. "So, RIM has Angry birds now, so your a liar" LOL.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By StormyKnight on 5/25/2012 11:29:55 PM , Rating: 2
The Playbook was a failure. Nobody knows about it much less those that use Android based hardware. What good is a blackberry tablet that can't do everything a blackberry phone can do just for starters?

Insult Android users all you want. It just shows how bitter you are that your favorite mobile platform is going belly up and there is nothing that will bring it back. Android and iOS rules now. Get used to it.

RE: WebOS is dead....
By Pirks on 5/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: WebOS is dead....
By retrospooty on 5/28/2012 3:15:55 PM , Rating: 2
"crapdroid rules now? really?"

Yes, really. It is fast, stable, beautiful, compatible, and very elegantly done... And most important, it's flexible . That is a big deal and not easy to do (as no other mobile OS has been able to accomplish that). It is the highest selling mobile OS for a reason you know. You love calling it "crapdroid" in every post for whatever Jr. High reason, but its still the biggest, the best and the most compatible thing out.

Why Move to Android with TP?
By ICBM on 5/25/2012 5:32:07 PM , Rating: 3
Why would I put Android on my Touchpad? The last updates HP made really got performance acceptable. I can browse everything, watch everything I want; all with the card/swipe system. The whole point of the tablet is the card/swipe system.

It is still not as smooth as a Playbook, but its quite acceptable.

RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By Pirks on 5/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By StormyKnight on 5/25/2012 11:43:35 PM , Rating: 2
And maybe if there were 10 more of you out there Pirks, just maybe 10 more Playbooks might have been sold at the initial purchase price...

RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By Pirks on 5/27/2012 12:09:04 AM , Rating: 1
RIM sold about half a million of Playbooks at the release prices, but keep lying troll, keep entertaining me

By darkhawk1980 on 5/27/2012 9:24:52 AM , Rating: 2
So it took RIM what? A year and a half to sell 500,000 playbooks? Hell, I think even Asus sold that many in it's first 4 months with the original Transformer....and then just as many the 4 months after that.

I'd hardly consider that number a good thing. It's not something I'd brag about.

RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By bupkus on 5/25/2012 8:12:21 PM , Rating: 2
I can browse everything, watch everything I want

and Netflix?

RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By darkpuppet on 5/28/2012 8:31:42 AM , Rating: 2
To be honest, my girlfriend was about to give up on her touchPad until I rooted it and put android on it.

Is Android perfect on it? No. Is it a bit buggy? Yes.

Does Android offer the apps that my girlfriend would use? Yes. And do they work? Yes.

So instead of a flawless OS that you couldn't do anything on, it now has a somewhat buggy OS that she can use everyday. I hate to say it, but I'd call it a win.

And after a few people saw what her droided TP can do, I've been asked to do a few other rooted TPs. So there are flaws that can't be overcome with cards or swipe-to-close.

Everyone has different uses for their tablets, and when it comes to picking one, it's whether it'll do what you need it to do, or get something else. For those people used to the richer environments of iOS and Android, webOS and QNX can feel like desert wastelands.

RE: Why Move to Android with TP?
By WT on 5/29/2012 8:52:16 AM , Rating: 2
Totally agree here. If your primary use of the TP is not app based, it is fine the way it is. I use it as an e-book reader and daily content from Zite, and it does that quite well.

I also bumped the performance up to 1.5ghz (the Snapdragon chip is rated at 1.5 but downclocked to 1.2 to save battery life). No real need for Android for what I use my TP for.

Same applies to all the touchpads
By corduroygt on 5/25/2012 3:47:26 PM , Rating: 2
ICS 4.0 is great on the Touchpad, transforms it into a decent tablet.

By Chadder007 on 5/25/2012 4:05:17 PM , Rating: 2
I would love to see the card system come to Android in proper form. It's still one of the best ways Ive seen implemented for multitasking on a tablet OS.

By zephyrprime on 5/25/2012 4:21:30 PM , Rating: 2
It's browser and buggy as heck and you can't even install anything from the play store successfully.

RE: Same applies to all the touchpads
By augiem on 5/25/2012 4:59:50 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about that. Android 3 was buggy and terrible on the touchpad. I have it installed. 4.0 sounds worse from all accounts I read on Cyanogenmod's forum. I've all but given up hope for a stable android release on the TP.

By Chadder007 on 5/25/2012 10:51:08 PM , Rating: 1
Its as stable as any android phone that ive owned so far.

WebOS and Android. Marriage made in heaven
By vcolon on 5/25/2012 10:45:43 PM , Rating: 2
The android platform may just get better. I'm excited to see Google embrace the geniuses of WebOs.

By Ytsejamer1 on 5/27/2012 11:07:13 AM , Rating: 2
I tend to agree. WebOS was/is a really slick and intuitive OS. The hardware was the part the sucked. I had the Pre for awhile and it just didn't hold up. My company provided me a phone, so after troubles with the Pre, I got hooked up with an older WinMo 6 device. I was was so dark ages.

I think the WebOS folks should be able to help make Android a bit slicker and smoother...provided there aren't any more stupid patent issues to gum up the, a rectangle with a screen and buttons.

I am defecting
By Ammohunt on 5/26/2012 10:25:01 AM , Rating: 2
I have decided to defect to the IOS side i get tired of vendor bloatware versions of Andriod and my smartphones hardware and OS being outdated within a month. I can't upgrade to the latest and greatest Android OS and no i don't feel i should have to to root my android phone to make it usable. I am going iPhone as soon as i can get a thrid mortgage.

RE: I am defecting
By vcolon on 5/26/2012 11:08:36 AM , Rating: 2
Normally people who make those statements were never on Google's side to begin with. Bloatware is a network carrier thing, not Google. The Nexus series of phones are bloatware free.

RE: I am defecting
By Pirks on 5/27/12, Rating: 0
By nafhan on 5/25/2012 4:07:58 PM , Rating: 2
Interestingly, both Enyo and Android are going to be under the Apache license. That might not mean a whole lot, but interesting nonetheless.

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