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Many of the media center features are only unlocked once you purchase a $60 USD yearly membership

Remember that slick DVR system to allow the recording of gametime videos, the voice-controlled channel guide (OneGuide TV), and the SmartMatch game match pairing service for the upcoming Xbox One?  Well in turns out Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is not intending those features for everyone.

I. Pay or Get Out

In order to "unlock" them, you have to pay an extra $60 USD a year for an Xbox Live "Gold" membership.  Xbox Live currently comes in two flavors -- "Free", which has no charges, and "Gold" which has an annual fee, but offers some unique perks (e.g. the free download of "Crackdown" currently available for Xbox 360 "Gold" level subscribers).  The Xbox 360 did set a somewhat similar precedent; it only offers access to the Internet Explorer (IE) browser to "Gold" customers and only allows "Gold" level customers to have access to their Netflix, Inc. (NFLX) account via their console [source].

Microsoft currently has 48 million Xbox Live users.  Of those an estimated 50 percent are "Gold" subscribers (Microsoft doesn't release statistics on the number of "Gold" subscriptions).  For them this won't be an impedement.

Xbox Live
Here's a list of some of the features Microsoft is placing behind a "Gold" subscription paywall.

But for the "Free" members or those who don't use the Xbox Live network at all -- which account for an estimated 24 million + Xbox Live "Free" users, plus the estimated 30 million some Xbox users [source] who don't subscribe to either service, your console will lose some of its key selling points.

Microsoft's console, which launches in November, is already priced at $100 USD more than Sony Corp.'s (TYO:6758) PlayStation 4.  
Xbox One
The Xbox One

II. Xbox -- Controversy in a Black Box

Other controversies are also still surround the console.  Its "always on" 1080p camera, along with Microsoft's allegedly voluntary data sharing agreements with the U.S. federal government have some fearing the new console will act as a "Big Brother" device, watching citizens' living rooms at all hours.  Microsoft has countered these claims saying it will include "robust" privacy protections with the Xbox One, however it stopped short of saying it wouldn't share video of you with the government.

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Microsoft's always-on camera feeds may be shared with the U.S. gov't.

Another controversy is over the cloud gaming features of the Xbox One.  The console has the ability to offload computations to the cloud, which Microsoft claims will make the console five times as fast, allowing for much better games.  Experts like John Carmack of id Software have called shenanigans on that claim, saying the Xbox One was on par with the PS4, even with cloud computing considered.  But what cloud offloading will certainly do is offer gamemakers an easy route to make their games unplayable offline.  One Microsoft executive was quoted as saying that he "hoped" gamemakers would use cloud computing to make their games unplayable offline.

PS4 devs in theory could also use cloud computing, and even potentially make their games unplayable offline.  However, it would be much harder to do so as Sony does not provide them with pre-packaged APIs for this purpose, meaning they'd have to write their whole offloading backend themselves.

Originally Microsoft also wanted to institute daily digital rights management (DRM) checks, which would effectively brick your console if it wasn't connected to the internet.  Former Xbox chief Don Mattrick (now CEO of Zynga Inc. (ZNGA)) fed the flames when he said that users with less than 100-percent reliable internet didn't deserve an Xbox One and should settle for an Xbox 360.  Facing a firestorm of criticism, Microsoft begrudgingly backed down, but still is standing firm on the controversial cloud computing drive.

In the good news column Microsoft did confirm that the Xbox One's latest hardware build received a GPU speed bump, which put it virtually neck-and-neck with the PS4's GPU.  That would explain where John Carmack's commentary that the consoles were pretty much identical in computing power came from.

Source: Microsoft



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It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 8:05:40 AM , Rating: 3
"In order to "unlock" them, you have to pay an extra $60 USD a year for an Xbox Live "Gold" membership. "

I cant say its a surprise. You have to have "gold" membership to simply watch Netflix on an Xbox today. A service that is 100% free on any # of devices, PC, Mac, Tivo's/DVR's, PS4, Nintendo, smartTV's and tons of others.

And that is why my Xbox sits dormant most of the time while the PS4 is used constantly.




RE: It figures...
By bug77 on 8/8/2013 10:38:41 AM , Rating: 2
Don't worry, it's a sign of things to come.


RE: It figures...
By datdamonfoo on 8/8/2013 10:44:23 AM , Rating: 2
You have a PS4 already?


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 10:55:30 AM , Rating: 2
Typo... PS3. But it is confirmed that these things will be ffre on PS4. MS is just shitty anymore.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/08/playstation-4-p...


RE: It figures...
By thefrozentin on 8/8/2013 1:48:41 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder what happened to Netflix on the PS4 when the PSN got hacked and was down for a while.


RE: It figures...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 1:55:23 PM , Rating: 2
You're holding, er, looking at it wrong. It seems that paying for a guarantee of service and up time is not worth the nominal costs to most people, they would rather deal with donw time and complete unavailability of a service, as well as breaches and all the other fun, than pay for quality.


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 2:17:37 PM , Rating: 1
If to you, XBlive = quality then you probably need to re calibrate your view of quality.

I see XBlive as a waste of another $300 over the 5 years (if not longer) until the next console. It doesn't get rid of the insane amount of ads you look at. Looking at Xbox, it looks like a huge freeware ad machine with a few games and features mixed in.


RE: It figures...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 2:46:47 PM , Rating: 3
"If to you, XBlive = quality then you probably need to re calibrate your view of quality."

I consider up time, the quality and consistency of the service, and the security of the platform as all part of the quality equation, hence I am happy with the Xbox as is. Being down for two weeks at a time, losing user info, shitty through put for content delivery does not sound like quality to me, hence I am not a big fan of the Playstation.

BTW, if anyone is actually paying that much for their gold service they simply are not even trying to find any deals, maybe they simply enjoy paying full retail on stuff.


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 4:18:40 PM , Rating: 1
"Being down for two weeks at a time, losing user info, shitty through put for content delivery does not sound like quality to me,"

It was down for a couple days once. I have never seen, nor heard of anyone complain about throughput but whatever.


RE: It figures...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 4:32:25 PM , Rating: 3
It was down a long longer than that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSN_outage


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 5:03:46 PM , Rating: 2
Oy, that is a long outage. Oh well, it happened and now its fixed. It was years ago.


RE: It figures...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/8/2013 5:52:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah but it was due to a criminal hack.

That's like blaming the power company for your losing electricity when terrorist fly a plane into the nuclear plant.


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 6:22:49 PM , Rating: 1
I just dont get the blindly defending MS with the ridiculous crap they have been pulling with the XBO.

I get it if someone doesn't care about those things and wants to buy it, but to act like we are all stupid, cheap or paranoid for not liking the the huge laundry list of limitations, requirements and intrusions is just nutz... wtf?


RE: It figures...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/8/2013 8:10:04 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get it either. Here is a company, straight up, saying they want to screw you and - possibly - compromise your privacy. And people are lining up with money in hand lol.

I just don't get what's going on at Microsoft over the last 5 years or so. But someone needs to hit the eject button on this movie, it's painful to watch.


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 8:45:52 PM , Rating: 2
If it were just pointless requirements, and limitations, it would be ok... But pointless requirements, limitations,AND intrusions? That is where I draw the line. LOL


RE: It figures...
By ianweck on 8/12/2013 3:35:57 PM , Rating: 3
I just don't get what's going on in Washington D.C. over the last 5 years or so. But someone needs to hit the eject button on this movie, it's painful to watch.


RE: It figures...
By Mint on 8/9/2013 12:24:09 AM , Rating: 2
Nuclear plants aren't expected to be online 100% of the time.

Sony, however, is expected to have sufficient security about personal info. ALL tech companies have that expectation.

That said, I agree he's beating a dead horse with little relevance for future action. If we're going to forgive MS for RROD, then we should forgive Sony for their moment of weakness.


RE: It figures...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/9/2013 9:05:16 AM , Rating: 3
Oh man I'm sorry for not using a perfect Mint-approved analogy. Please don't hit me!

All I'm saying is the network didn't "go down". It was TAKEN down, via a criminal act. And I believe we should blame the criminals first, I'm just that kind of guy.

If you don't think the lock on my door is good enough, that doesn't give you the right to kick my door in and steal my belongings.

(ps, that was probably another imperfect analogy, sorry!)


RE: It figures...
By nikon133 on 8/8/2013 9:46:45 PM , Rating: 2
Even with those 24 days of outage... XBox Live Gold is NZ$80 a year.

In 5 years of having this generation console, I saved NZ$400 on on-line gaming. Outside of those 24 days, I never had a problem with on-line games, and I played quite a few of them.

Have I gone XBox, I would have extra 24 days of on-line gaming, for NZ$400 more. Now that is expensive 24 days of on-line access. I'm happy I haven't done that, because now I basically have NZ$400 in my PS4 budget, which is already 2/3 of PS4 NZ price.

That being said, PS4 will require subscription for on-line gaming... but as it is, other services will be available with free account. Owners of PSN Plus account (Sony's equivalent of Live Gold) get instant game library included, and additional quality game (70% or above metacritics score, I think?) for free every month. Last month it was Battlefield 3, this month it is NFS: Most Wanted.

I like this deal, in fact I have just jumped on Plus. I was planning to get NFS: MW anyway, and instant library includes some of the games I was planning to get as well - Spec Ops: The Line, X-Com: Enemy Unknown, some others. If I get PS4, there will be Drive Club free for Plus members... so there's already well over NZ$100 vale for me.

I'm not saying that Live is not attractive for some people, but for me, PSN / PSN Plus work better.


RE: It figures...
By BZDTemp on 8/9/2013 12:55:42 PM , Rating: 2
Also considering the compensation Sony provided it wasn't all bad. In fact I think they handled it pretty well.

Besides it is not like Microsoft has been perfect plus the Live Gold thing is like 50% extra here on this side of the pond, still I guess we should be happy since minimum wages here are around $25 so Live is actually sort of cheap.


RE: It figures...
By Totally on 8/8/2013 6:08:45 PM , Rating: 2
When did netflix go free? Why am I still paying $8 for a membership


RE: It figures...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/8/2013 6:48:48 PM , Rating: 2
You can access it for free on a Playstation.

My Netflix machine, and DLNA streaming box, is an old PS3 my friend owned when the BluRay drive died.

It's worked really awesome for me and my girlfriend. But if I wanted to use an Xbox for the same task, I would have to buy an Xbox Live account?? To watch Netflix!!?? Yeah, no, no thank you.


RE: It figures...
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 7:31:13 PM , Rating: 2
"When did netflix go free? Why am I still paying $8 for a membership"

I mean that in order to view your Netflix on XBox you have to have an Xbox live gold account which is another $60 a year... Just for the privilege to use YOUR Netflix account and YOUR internet service to watch it. Ridiculous.


RE: It figures...
By Totally on 8/10/2013 5:12:02 AM , Rating: 2
Ah, now I see...and followed by a wtf, MS.


Not quite
By bug77 on 8/8/2013 7:52:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Microsoft has countered these claims saying it will include "robust" privacy protections with the Xbox One, however it stopped short of saying it wouldn't share video of you with the government.


Well, the issue is whether they'd share or not. As long as they store said video, they can be coerced to share.
Of course, nothing stops you from placing something on/in front of the camera so it's pretty easy to enforce your privacy. Annoying that you have to, but easy.




RE: Not quite
By therealnickdanger on 8/8/2013 8:01:19 AM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing that if you cover it or turn it around, it will pop up continuously with messages about calibration and not allow you to actually use the console. Microsoft has repeatedly stated that the XO is integrated with Kinect and won't work without it. I assume that goes beyond simply detecting that it is plugged in.

The Gold requirement to use features freely available to anyone without an XO is just stupid. That's why we sold our 360s and went PC-only for all our TVs. Fewer dollars spent, better gaming performance, and all the benefits of an open platform.


RE: Not quite
By half_duplex on 8/8/2013 9:35:35 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah I'm also guessing MS has already thought about people trying to cover the living room facing video camera.

How did we get here? A game console that always has to be online and equipped with a surveillance device? I

guess the commies were right, if they can't take over from the outside, they'll take over from the inside.


RE: Not quite
By rdhood on 8/8/2013 10:43:10 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
A game console that always has to be online and equipped with a surveillance device?


No living room facing camera that is always live will ever exist in my house.

Can you say "1984"?

MS is slowly screwing the pooch on this one.


RE: Not quite
By polishvendetta on 8/8/13, Rating: -1
RE: Not quite
By jnemesh on 8/8/2013 12:03:37 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, because the idea of our government using our own technology against us is just TOTALLY crazy, right?
/s


RE: Not quite
By Motoman on 8/8/2013 12:43:12 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, there's no way they would do something like record information about every phone call and email every citizen in the USA ever sends and then store it in a database just in case they ever wanted to look through it.

/snowden


RE: Not quite
By flyingpants1 on 8/8/2013 3:21:31 PM , Rating: 3
I think the main issue is that people just don't understand the implications of mass surveillance. They literally think, and then state out loud, "Who cares if they're spying on me, I'm not doing anything wrong!" Wow. Okay. Here's a hint, the government is not spending billions to just find out what you had for lunch. They're not doing it to catch criminals, either.

Surveillance like this is used to target political dissidents. If you don't understand what that means, you have no business talking about it.


RE: Not quite
By xti on 8/8/2013 4:04:13 PM , Rating: 1
i would say now Perry is gonna come to my house and clobber me, but you said I cant talk about it.

agenda pushers complaining about agenda pushers. nice.


RE: Not quite
By NellyFromMA on 8/8/2013 4:32:37 PM , Rating: 2
Um, I mean... did you ever apply your logic to cell phones? They are always on sensors too... It's really essentially the same... it even always records your conversations and location...


RE: Not quite
By half_duplex on 8/8/2013 8:46:41 PM , Rating: 2
Yes I have, but a cell phone unfortunately is something that I can't do without at this point.

But realistically, it's just been in the past few years that they've turned into such tracking devices. I do as much as I can to turn off features that collect data.


RE: Not quite
By GulWestfale on 8/8/2013 8:04:08 AM , Rating: 5
even easier would be to not buy one.


RE: Not quite
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 8:06:17 AM , Rating: 3
"even easier would be to not buy one."

Deal!


RE: Not quite
By Motoman on 8/8/2013 11:01:33 AM , Rating: 3
That's just it. The hits just keep on coming from MS, don't they? The fact that *anyone* is still contemplating purchasing these things is absolutely mind-boggling.


RE: Not quite
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 6:25:12 PM , Rating: 2
"The hits just keep on coming from MS, don't they? The fact that *anyone* is still contemplating purchasing these things is absolutely mind-boggling."

Even more astounding is the people that not only still want it, but are online defending it.


RE: Not quite
By bug77 on 8/8/2013 8:50:47 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not getting one. The only console I own is a Wii and I got that out of sheer curiosity. I was just thinking about people who will and want to tuck it away when not using it.


RE: Not quite
By Da W on 8/8/2013 5:00:15 PM , Rating: 1
Think sending all this location data to Google via your android device is better?
Next time vote for a president who will enforce the US constitution. Stupid americns.... :)


Skype and OneGuide
By Flunk on 8/8/2013 9:08:56 AM , Rating: 5
So they're going to restrict Skype? Something you can use without a subscription on: Android, IOs, Windows (All kinds), Mac OS and several other CE devices. That sounds like they're trying to make their competitor's look better. Why pay for Xbox Live when I can just use Skype on my tablet/phone/anything else?

As for OneGuide, that's probably the only real advantage the Xbox One has over the PS4. They should be giving it away and shouting it from rooftops. Microsoft seems dedicated to making their console the worst offer available. If I didn't know better I would say Sony paid them to take a dive.




RE: Skype and OneGuide
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 10:56:26 AM , Rating: 2
"So they're going to restrict Skype? Something you can use without a subscription on: Android, IOs, Windows (All kinds), Mac OS and several other CE devices. That sounds like they're trying to make their competitor's look better ."

They are succeeding at that.


RE: Skype and OneGuide
By polishvendetta on 8/8/2013 11:47:12 AM , Rating: 1
Wait, so MS sucks because they force you to buy a webcamera with each box, so no ones going to buy it.

And now they suck because the system no ones going to buy cant do web confrencing for free?


RE: Skype and OneGuide
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 2:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
No, they suck because there is webcamera that is on all the time, even when the Xbox is off. And they suck because they don't let you use free services like Skype and Netflix without the crappy $60 yearly subscription. It's not like its using thier network, its using YOUR internet.

Its free on PS3, and 4

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/08/playstation-4-p...

They also suck with the way they handled the always on and no used games thing. Now they gave back the used games thing and took away the ability to log in and play anywhere using games your bought online via download.

Whatever though, if you find all of that acceptable, then you deserve an XBOne and living room microphone.


Beating this dead horse one more time...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 11:19:17 AM , Rating: 1
So essentially, to unlock all the features of an Xbox 360, Xbox One, the next gen XBox, and the one to come after that, you need to buy a gold account. You should be able find them for about $35 several times a year with a tiny bit of effort. You can keep whinning about it, or realize that it is more likely that Sony will also slowly move more in this direction than MS is going to move in the other. Just accept it for frickin frackin sake. It's the business model they have in place, don't like it, don't get one. Anecdotally, one of the best parts of the Live Gold account is it seems to have a net result of not having so many 8 year olds screaming just to hear their voice, idiots spewing crap because they're bored, and keeps the people who seem to do nothing but bitch about everything they can off the system.




RE: Beating this dead horse one more time...
By jnemesh on 8/8/2013 12:07:31 PM , Rating: 2
No, I WON'T accept it! I ALREADY pay for Netflix...and I can watch it on EVERY OTHER DEVICE I OWN for no additional charge. What makes the Xbox so damn special that they need more money from me to access the content I ALREADY PAID FOR???

Also, Sony has now publicly stated that the PS4 will not require PS Plus for game DVR functionality, nor for streaming media, nor for access to the web browser. The ONLY thing it's required for is multiplayer gaming. On the PS3 it's not required for anything other than access to free and discounted games.


RE: Beating this dead horse one more time...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 12:49:27 PM , Rating: 1
So go watch Netflix there, why are you bitching if you have an alternative? Just to bitch?

The reason they have a right to make requirements like this is not because they are special, it's because it is their platform and they can design the business model how they want.

Case in point, from my previous down rated comment, this is a perfect example of why I appreciate the gold service, it filters out a lot of the people I hear on the PS3 network that constantly bitch about everything and whine to no end when they don't get things their way.


RE: Beating this dead horse one more time...
By karimtemple on 8/8/2013 1:58:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So go watch Netflix there, why are you bitching if you have an alternative? Just to bitch?
This would be a valid response if Microsoft's value proposition wasn't a be-all-end-all device which eliminates the need for other boxes. But alas.


RE: Beating this dead horse one more time...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 2:38:21 PM , Rating: 2
Well, it can be a be-all-end-all device, it's just gonna cost a bit. I will agree with you to the extent that it would serve them better and make the console itself a more attractive Roku, AppleTV, etc... replacement if they did not require the gold service to access what is freely available on the other devices. But at the end of the day they have not done so.

I am curious what the actual reason for the why it is this way. I doubt it was a decision that was made lightly. My initial thoughts is the QoS they want to guarantee for media content delivery, which they can do with the gold but do not care to do for the silver accounts. From personal experience, a friend of mine has a 360 and a PS3, we watch Blue Ray on the PS3 for the best visuals between the two units when rent from RedBox, but the Netflix signal is always better on the 360, so we use it on that device. I would much rather pay and get a consistent hi-def signal than to have a free service that is inconsistent and often sent in standard def.


By flyingpants1 on 8/8/2013 3:24:40 PM , Rating: 2
Why give away those features? One year of Live is likely more protifable than selling a single XO at this point. The numbers probably work out.


Won't be buying one...
By jnemesh on 8/8/2013 12:01:08 PM , Rating: 2
Until and unless Microsoft puts IN WRITING that Kinect and Xbox data will NEVER be shared with the US Government in ANY way, shape, or form, I will be boycotting this box. It really takes BALLS to make the camera a REQUIRED item, and to REQUIRE it be on and CALIBRATED for the Xbox to work at all. NO THANK YOU!




RE: Won't be buying one...
By Nekrik on 8/8/2013 1:29:59 PM , Rating: 3
You will never get that sort of guarantee from any company, not Sony's North America branch, not Google, not MS, not anyone. They are legally obligated to comply with the laws in the countries they conduct business.

The companies can fight and resist to legal extent of the law, but at the end of the day if the government wants is, they're going to get it. That is why MS and Google are fighting to get more transparency into how, why, and what the government made them disclose. None of these companies are freely offering it to the NSA, they were legally 'compelled' to do so, they are also legally obligated to not disclose certain pieces of information related to what was taken, or why and when it was taken.


RE: Won't be buying one...
By Gurthang on 8/12/2013 12:53:43 PM , Rating: 2
I don't don't care for either console, though I'd love to wipe the XBOne hardware and install my own HTPC OS. But that is a topic for another day.

Lets go over some deatils, video even a highly compressed stream of dubious security value would be too much for any system to handle if we are talking about millions of devices. Even with a siri style system which only squirts a stream up when you activate it would be too much. The load alone it would place on networks would have ISPs banning XBOne upstream traffic.

The always on bit is just a fancier version of motion detection commonly seen in security systems. To keep things fast they are most likely generating some fancy hash code to match up against either a locally cached account or identities in the cloud. Sending the raw stream would be too slow and too expensive.

Could individual systems be hacked via some malcious app or MS cohersed by some government into using the XBone to spy on you.. maybe.. though it seems a lot of trouble to go through when getting some spyware on your webcam equiped PC, Mac, or phone would gather far more usefull data than your secret Kinectanimals habbit.

That being said requiring gold membership for some of these features is garbage.


What is the point of this article?
By polishvendetta on 8/8/13, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 8/8/2013 2:24:58 PM , Rating: 5
"Want to play online with friends? Need a gold account. Want to watch Netflix or Hulu or any other streaming service? You need a gold account."

Want to do those things for free? You need a PS3. :P


cloud compute != no offline play
By asgallant on 8/8/2013 11:30:21 AM , Rating: 3
"One Microsoft executive was quoted as saying that he "hoped" gamemakers would use cloud computing to make their games unplayable offline."

Stop saying that. The MS exec in question actually said that he hoped developers would use the cloud computing capabilities to enhance games. He never said that he hoped that devs would use cloud computing to make games unplayable offline.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think anyone from MS or game studios familiar with the platform has said that developing for the cloud compute capabilities will kill offline game play. It wouldn't be that hard to write code that uses the cloud when it's available and runs code locally when it's not. Users would just see a degradation in performance or a loss of features in game when offline.




By polishvendetta on 8/8/2013 11:39:12 AM , Rating: 2
I would vote you up if I could.


Smartmatch?
By Demons on 8/8/2013 12:05:37 PM , Rating: 3
What do you need Smartmatch for if you don't have Xbox Live Gold anyway? Without Live Gold, you can't play online right?




RE: Smartmatch?
By datdamonfoo on 8/8/2013 12:45:43 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly.


Failboat
By Ammohunt on 8/8/2013 11:35:48 AM , Rating: 1
Wow just a little market research spend would do Microsoft a world of good. As been pointed out why spend $60 a year for the majority of functionality a $60 streaming device can provide? This is yet another Microsoft attempt to force what they think the consumer wants ala Windows 8 they really need to get out of their bubble and walk the streets because everyday they are appearing more and more out of touch.




RE: Failboat
By polishvendetta on 8/8/2013 11:42:37 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah because you know Xbox live gold accounts havent been available for the past 8 years.

Oh no wait, I got it. MS is spending all of its marketing money on time travle so they can go screw up xbox live before it Windows 8 ever existed.


Missing feature
By haukionkannel on 8/8/2013 10:50:27 AM , Rating: 2
They did forget one feature, from the feature list:

quote:
-------- ----------- Xbox 360 ... Xbox One
Skynet compatible ..... - ................ *




By siderst on 8/9/2013 10:51:40 AM , Rating: 2
It sucks that MS is forcing these features behind their Gold membership but true objective reporting would also warrant mention of the PS4 PlayStation Plus account requirement in order to play any online multiplayer game.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/ps4-playstation...




By nangryo on 8/8/2013 1:24:45 PM , Rating: 1
It's funny when anything bad about anything related to microsoft, he will defend it at all cost. And if you notice, his post will usually get uprated first , then downrated later. Sometimes to zero or even minus. It sees that the person that uprates hi maybe is his clones to get sympathy, but since the truth was out, even tough it's uprated first, it will go downhill




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