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The iPhone won't be the only mobile device from Apple to support NFC

The Android Wear market is just heating up, but Apple is looking to bring its own flavor to wearables with the iWatch. Various publications — citing people familiar with Apple’s plans — assert that the iWatch will be unveiled alongside the iPhone 6 on September 9. However, the iWatch won’t be available until early 2015; likely in an effort to give developers enough time to create app for a brand new platform.
 
In a new report released today, The Wall Street Journal claims that the iWatch will be available in two difference sizes to appeal to a broader range of consumers. In addition, both SKUs will feature a curved OLED screen and will be loaded with sensors to monitor the wearer’s health and fitness levels.

The New York Times is separately reporting that the iWatch will have a flexible, sapphire display and that it will support wireless recharging.

 
The most interesting news gathered from the WSJ’s latest report, however, is that the iWatch will also feature NFC technology — like the iPhone 6 — to support Apple’s upcoming mobile payments service. The fact that the iWatch would carry its own NFC chip leads us to believe that the device would be able to complete retail transactions on its own, rather than being tethered to an iPhone.
 
Notable Apple blogger — and an individual with good sourcing inside Apple — tackled the issue of NFC on the iPhone 6 and the iWatch last week, stating:
 
I’ve been working on a new joke — about NFC and a new secure enclave where you can store your credit cards, so you can pay for things at brick and mortar retail stores just by taking out your iPhone, but only if it’s one of the new iPhones — but no one seems to get my sense of humor.
 
Follow-up joke: It would be cool, and would make a lot of sense, if the new wearable thing had the same magic payment apparatus.
 
In other iWatch news, Apple design chief Jony Ive has reportedly bragged that Switzerland will be in trouble once the iWatch hits the market.

Sources: The Wall Street Journal, Daring Fireball, The New York Times



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Security issues?
By jdre on 9/4/2014 1:37:17 PM , Rating: 4
I'm not sure why it seems less secure - but something about having NFC mobile payment capability on my visible, flailing arms seems off-putting.

The phone may at least be in my pocket, and more difficult for a hacker/thief to spot as I walk by (or sit next to on the Metro rail).

I'm also a little fearful that, regardless of the UI to operate/enable it, I'll end up walking with my arm too close to a POS system and paying for someone's stuff. That is, I feel more confident in my ability to keep my pockets away from POS systems than my wrist.




RE: Security issues?
By quiksilvr on 9/4/2014 3:08:23 PM , Rating: 2
The thing is, you can (should) be able to disable it and only turn it one when it is needed. Unfortunately with RFID magnetic cards, they are always available and ripe for the taking. That is what makes NFC on smartphones more appealing; you can control when it is accessible. Furthermore, a 4 digit pin (regardless of credit/debit) is required to allow the transaction to take place.


RE: Security issues?
By jdre on 9/4/2014 5:05:41 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, I should have thought of the PIN aspect. I assumed it was a simple "click to allow" type UI, which, knowing how often I pocket-dial or bump an app open unintentionally, I was wary of.

Still. Entering a PIN on a watch sounds tricky.


RE: Security issues?
By Ammohunt on 9/4/2014 5:14:02 PM , Rating: 2
I can authorize purchases on my iPhone 5s via the finger reader i would expect the iWatch to be similar.


RE: Security issues?
By robinthakur on 9/5/2014 6:19:40 AM , Rating: 2
It depends. Here in the UK, we've had contactless payments on nearly all cards since 2010 and you can pay for anything upto £20 just by tapping the card, with a daily limit in place. No pin is required to do this. For an iWatch or iPhones 6, I can see the Touch Id being a perfect quick addition to this making it more , not less secure than a contactless card issued by Visa, Master card and Amex.

Having been skeptical of contactless, in reality you don't have a hacker on every corner waiting for somebody with contactless cards to walk by and there is still the daily limit to fall back on which is more than made up for by the convenience.


RE: Security issues?
By hpglow on 9/5/2014 1:54:53 AM , Rating: 2
Plus there is the incentive for thieves to do a bit of literal arm "hacking" to get free money.


Usefulness
By Mr56 on 9/4/2014 1:38:06 PM , Rating: 2
Speaking from someone who works in the corporate world where communications by text, email and phone call are nonstop all day and night I love my pebble watch. Being able to know at a glance what is happening has enabled me to be more engaged with real people. I am now able to leave my phone in my pocket and determine if what I see on my wrist is important enough to warrant an immediate response when previously I was constantly using my phone. What happens without it it for me is I check my email when I hear the notification and because I'm there I check them all and them my personal emails then text, Facebook and so on. Look around next time you go out and pay attention to how disengaged we have become with each other.




RE: Usefulness
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/4/2014 1:52:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What happens without it it for me is I check my email when I hear the notification and because I'm there I check them all and them my personal emails then text, Facebook and so on. Look around next time you go out and pay attention to how disengaged we have become with each other.

Yep, I have this exact same problem. The only question [for me personally] is if another $250+ is worth it to curb what is obviously my lack of self control :)


RE: Usefulness
By jdre on 9/4/2014 1:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not entirely sure I see how the watch solves this problem, per se. If anything - it seems like it draws (albeit a glance) more of your attention, relative to keeping your phone in your pocket.

I put my phone next to my laptop/on the table in a meeting or when chatting with someone, and look at the notification on the screen. Same concept - one less device.

And I've established a simple "if I don't reply right away, I'm probably busy" etiquette with people.


RE: Usefulness
By Ammohunt on 9/4/2014 5:15:27 PM , Rating: 2
I think that was the point of the movie Warm Bodies.


Cue video
By tonyswash on 9/4/14, Rating: 0
RE: Cue video
By StormyKnight on 9/5/2014 12:06:38 AM , Rating: 2
It lacks rounded corners and pinch-to-zoom. Apple can't sue.


Geez...again ...
By Jim_Liquor on 9/5/2014 12:28:48 AM , Rating: 2
This smart watch stuff is absolutely nonsense, and anyone who shells the bucks for one, Android or iOS or Windows, deserves what they get.




great
By chromal on 9/4/14, Rating: 0
A nugget from the NY Times story
By tonyswash on 9/4/14, Rating: -1
RE: A nugget from the NY Times story
By jdre on 9/4/2014 5:08:09 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't a Swiss company successfully sue Apple over trademark violations already?

I'd say Apple could be in trouble, potentially, if history repeats itself.


RE: A nugget from the NY Times story
By tonyswash on 9/4/14, Rating: -1
RE: A nugget from the NY Times story
By jdre on 9/8/2014 2:24:30 PM , Rating: 3
What design will the watch face use? Does Apple definitely own it this time?


RE: A nugget from the NY Times story
By simsony on 9/4/2014 8:33:12 PM , Rating: 1
Ive isn't the sort to talk like that outside of a Apple marketing video, what would be the point of hyping it to employees?

Sounds more like some silly pub exchange - I heard from a friend who knows a friend who was at Apple eavesdropping on someone who said they said that he said...

I mean seriously - Switzerland in trouble over a new kind of digital watch? WTF are you thinking even quoting just a thing tonywash?


By themaster08 on 9/5/2014 1:17:19 AM , Rating: 2
Tony believes any PR fluff to come out of Apple.


By robinthakur on 9/5/2014 6:24:17 AM , Rating: 1
I think the people paying £20k for a Panerai or Patek Philippe are possibly not the same market paying a paltry £350 for a cheapo iWatch somehow. Nobody buys them to tell the time with, they are aspirational lifestyle items similar to Apple but not as affordable for the majority.


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