Going to Best Buy, Circuit City, or even Target; a plethora of machines from
manufacturers like Dell and HP assault the eyes. Many of these Vista
machines have impressive muscle for modest prices. Take HP -- the average
sale price (ASP) of a notebook with 14.1-inch display, 2GHz processor, 4GB of
RAM and a 320GB hard drive is $699. That kind of machine can not
only replace a desktop, but also meet most users’ multimedia needs and even
handle some less graphically intensive gaming.
Interestingly, prices seem to have hit
a sweet spot and are quite low, though not moving up or down. Stephen
Baker, NPD's vice president of industry analysis, who yielded the HP ASP information
had this to say of the trend, "We aren't seeing any particularly
substantive moves down in price on the Windows side, either in desktops or
While obviously it’s comparing apples and oranges, and the products appeal to
different markets, it’s interesting to look at how Mac prices have changed
versus PC prices. Macs have gone from an average price of $1,432 and
$1,574, for desktops and laptops respectively in June '06 to $1,543 and $1,515
respectively in June '08. While much lower to start, PCs are now even
lower in average sale price. The average
PC notebook went from $877 to $700, while the average desktop dipped just
barely from $559 to $550.
Vista PCs have reached a sweet point with pricing that is appealing not just to
the high end crowd, but to the masses. And while prices are staying
constant, hardware features are increasing, which is good for the
consumer. As Mr. Baker puts it, "Of course there is feature
creep—there always is."
Another trend along these lines is the push to support 64-bit Vista.
While numbers are still small, HP is leading the way, and its strong sales are
certainly making an impact in spreading 64-bit. DailyTech went
into this trend in more detail. Mr. Baker alludes to this stating,
"Forty-eight percent of June Windows notebooks are 3GB systems. But
4GB RAM Windows notebook systems are 11.6 percent of sales in June, up from
nothing [at the] beginning of [the] year."
So what exactly do the latest NPD figures on Windows PCs show? It can be
interpreted in many ways, but one major observation is that Windows PCs are
clearly the champion at lower prices. It also shows that a full featured
machine can be found for a very reasonable price. This is good news for
many -- and even better news when you consider holiday sales may momentarily
sink prices even further.
quote: there's no reason NOT to use Vista
quote: You could easily spend $60 to upgrade. At the moment I cannot and do not consider it a priority by any stretch.
quote: I use Windows XP and never see this 512 in full use.
quote: a quality motherboard with integrated graphics at around $75, hardware cost is hardly holding anyone back.
quote: a quality motherboard is more likely to cost $200. A cheap motherboard with all of it's inherent problems (nVidia chipset, AMD processor (remember XP SP3?), VIA and SIS south bridges, firewire, USB, sound (stereo, 2.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1), nic chips) of reliability and driver support.
quote: And as we all know 2G of RAM is the bare minimum for Vista, with 4G being optimal and 8G being the preferred choice for power users.
quote: A very well balanced and reliable Vista PC should set you back about $1200. Then add the $300 cost of a Vista Ultimate Retail license. $1500. The same price point that it has been for the last 20 years for very good and reliable PC.
quote: Vista is extremely efficient with RAM. Yes, Vista requires about 2GB to function properly. XP takes about 512MB.
quote: My wife had a single core celeron laptop with only 512mb and Vista home basic, and it ran like total, complete and utter crap. Just painful to use it, every click meant waiting. As soon as we upgraded that machine to 2gbs, the thing just took off and performed more than adequatly for everything we did with it.
quote: So for them it stays on the default settings. And in that regard Vista is FAR more secure. And for an experienced user it's even more secure than an XP computer in the hands of an experienced user.
quote: We're saying that if you're building a new computer or buying a new computer, there's no reason NOT to use Vista.
quote: It requires twice the RAM of XP and a faster CPU.
quote: my Vista notebook sometimes experiences windowing crashes requiring Windows Explorer to reboot...I'm using the latest SP/updates... and this has happened consistently before I ever connected it to the internet, so I doubt its virus/malware related, also gaming graphics work fine, so I doubt its GPU...in all fairness to Vista, this may be a hardware driver issue with the particular Vaio notebook I have
quote: Anyways I think its as wrong to indiscriminately hate on Apple...
quote: Many software compatibility too, UAC is annoying, pls noted over 90% of the user is not a pc freak so they have no idea how to turn it off.
quote: MS should adjust it through windows update.
quote: Switch back to my XP, corporate antivirus work now finally!
quote: Might try to get a Mac and install a XP with it, X for work, XP for gaming, yea!
quote: It's poop because it has semi-functional at best since release
quote: "AVG Free Edition + Spybot Search & Destroy"Those two are a gold combination :D Used here for I don't remember how long. And being on a router, really stupid surfing is needed to get one lost....
quote: You did to install Vista.
quote: Take HP -- the average sale price (ASP) of a notebook with 14.1-inch display, 2GHz processor, 4GB of RAM and a 320GB hard drive is $699.