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Verizon is suing Communications Workers of America leaders due to their disruptive behavior during the strike

At the beginning of this week, 45,000 union workers at Verizon's U.S. Northeast Wireline Unit went on strike when they couldn't reach an agreement with their mobile employer. But now, the conflict is heating up as Verizon has decided to sue the one of the unions in five different U.S. states.

At 12:20 a.m. on Sunday, August 7, one day after the contract expired, no agreements had been reached between the involved parties, and the 45,000 union workers went on strike. Both Verizon and the unions continued standing their ground. 

Now, Verizon is fed up with the behavior of the striking union workers, saying their demonstrations are bordering on sabotage and they're blocking access to Verizon facilities. To remedy these issues, the broadband and telecommunications giant is suing Communications Workers of America leaders in five different Eastern U.S. states.

The five states include, Delaware, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania.

According to Verizon, vandalism has been quite an issue during the strike. It said demonstrators have committed such acts as shutting off power, blocking entrances in Dover and Newark, and using crazy glue to jam fence and service truck locks.

In addition to legal action, Verizon is offering rewards (such as $50,000) to those who have information on vandalism and acts of sabotage.

Verizon has trained over 40,000 managers and contractors to replace the union workers during the strike.

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send them to jail
By kattanna on 8/11/2011 10:24:39 AM , Rating: 5
http://articles.boston.com/2011-08-09/business/298...

quote:
The telecommunications company said there have been 12 acts of sabotage to telephone lines and to Internet and television services in Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York since the strike began. Fiber-optic lines were intentionally cut in Tewksbury and several other municipalities on the East Coast, the company said.


those doing this should lose their job and go to jail.

sadly.. its just a few nut jobs that are making the rest look bad, as is usual.




RE: send them to jail
By Salisme on 8/11/2011 10:49:01 AM , Rating: 3
They looked bad the moment they went on strike. What they pay yearly for their family medical, I pay monthly. The union greed is inexcusable. Mad about the CEO's pay? Go back to school get a degree and apply for that management position, don't just expect it to be given to you because you show up to work.

/end rant


RE: send them to jail
By DJ Brandon on 8/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: send them to jail
By Drexial on 8/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: send them to jail
By EricMartello on 8/11/2011 1:30:51 PM , Rating: 5
Right, right...the daring and dangerous life of the Verizon worker. Police, Military and Fire Rescue workers all have dangerous jobs but get paid about half of what these Verizon employees get.

Personally I would just ditch the union workers altogether. Unions are outdated and irrelevant...where once there were no laws to protect the individual workers from being exploited by companies, today the workplace is much different. There are many federal and state laws in place to prevent employers from abusing their workers - Unions are a relic that should be purged. They allow lazy/useless workers to stay employed while driving up the costs of labor AND preventing more qualified workers from replacing the ineffective ones.

As for all this talk of bonus, sure, everyone deserves a chance for PERFORMANCE BASED compensation. Verizon and other companies should regularly evaluate their workers' on-the-job performance and offer bonus incentives to the ones who do better work on time and reliably, while giving nothing to the lazy sacks of sh1t who do one job then spend the rest of the day sitting around at the jobsite waiting for the day to end so they can collect their pay and go home.


RE: send them to jail
By ViroMan on 8/11/2011 4:34:32 PM , Rating: 3
+1 This is so correct. I worked at Safeway when I was in my 20's. The amount of lazy workers that they could not get rid of was staggering. Im not even talking about 16 year olds either, im talking about 30+ year old adults who are lazy and have a generally bad work attitude. Safeway can't get rid of them due to Union. All I did was do the work that was expected of me and I quickly got promoted up to manager of the bread and liquor department.

I tried to get a guy working under me fired because he refused to learn the layout of the store so that he could guide the customers to where something was, he would also be caught loafing around sometimes. There was a policy that you had to give them a verbal warning(make a note of it), then 2 written warnings and then you can fire the fool. But all this had to happen within 3 months or something like that. He would get caught loafing around not enough times to get his ass in trouble. I had that idiot working for me for 1 ½ years.


RE: send them to jail
By thurston2 on 8/11/2011 9:58:23 PM , Rating: 1
You had one person abuse the system so that makes them all bad?


RE: send them to jail
By idiot77 on 8/11/2011 7:10:11 PM , Rating: 2
The government you say is so incapable do doing anything is going to protect the workers? Hah.


RE: send them to jail
By thurston2 on 8/11/2011 9:56:34 PM , Rating: 2
A lot of police and fire workers are union too.


RE: send them to jail
By Omega215D on 8/12/2011 6:39:39 AM , Rating: 2
But we're usually good at making compromises in order to save others from the ax even though it was the city government that was so wasteful and corrupt.

I was born and raised in NYC and will be heading to SD for PD training. The pay is good out in CA and I do feel it is a bit much while NYC pays peanuts for NYPD but overtime helps a lot. Sadly, the FDNY couldn't make enough cuts to prevent another fire house from closing.


RE: send them to jail
By someguy123 on 8/11/2011 4:08:30 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, because it's oh so life threatening to have a crane lift you up a pole and manage wiring through five inch gloves during those chilly nights. I didn't realize verizon employees were bringing internet to a tundra. How much do soldiers get payed again?

there's nothing excusing executive greed, but there's nothing excusing union greed either. even if this union got their way it would do nothing to the executive's bottom line. the only difference would be that verizon's fees would be higher. the public would end up paying for your vendetta against verizon's management.


RE: send them to jail
By thurston2 on 8/11/2011 10:00:01 PM , Rating: 3
Mercenary soldiers working for Blackwater are paid quite well.


RE: send them to jail
By guffwd13 on 8/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: send them to jail
By thurston2 on 8/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: send them to jail
By shaidorsai on 8/15/2011 7:02:38 PM , Rating: 1
Wow I usually don't comment when posts are made by people talking jack about shit they dont know. You've never been a lineman and I seriously doubt you'd qualify for the job. Your post made you sound like a complete bitter ass stuck in a low paying job. Maybe YOU need to go back to school and stop bitching at people that really just want to keep what they have.


RE: send them to jail
By nik1108 on 8/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: send them to jail
By Ben on 8/12/11, Rating: 0
RE: send them to jail
By GetRealNow on 8/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: send them to jail
By FITCamaro on 8/11/2011 2:06:27 PM , Rating: 4
Few private sector professionals get the level of benefits that union workers do, much less at the same price.

Not to mention the intangible benefit of not being able to be fired due to the red tape an employer must go through to get rid of a worker. Look at those autoworkers that were caught drinking on their lunch break and returning to work. Were they fired? No.

Same goes for teachers. Shitty teacher? No problem. It's clearly not your fault and we'll just move you to another school assuming we do anything at all.


RE: send them to jail
By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:43:00 PM , Rating: 2
Well, those private sector employees can go apply for a job at Verizon, if they want to.

Double standard arguments here are too funny.


RE: send them to jail
By FITCamaro on 8/11/2011 3:46:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah let me go make $12-15/hr for some benefits...

I have absolutely no desire to be in a union and wouldn't work somewhere that required me to be in one regardless of the pay or benefits.

The guys point was that Verizon should just dump the union and go with private employees. They've already hired managers and contractors to replace them in the meantime. Just keep those people or bring them on as full time employees without the union. I'm sure they'd love to have the job.


RE: send them to jail
By guffwd13 on 8/11/2011 4:33:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well, those private sector employees can go apply for a job at Verizon, if they want to.


Or they could keep making less money but actually do something useful to society. At least they'd then be worth what they're being paid for.


RE: send them to jail
By nolisi on 8/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: send them to jail
By hartleyb on 8/11/2011 12:14:14 PM , Rating: 2
Look no further than Boeing or GM to see what happens when UNIONs run the show. The UNIONS are trying to tell Boeing where they can build a plan; it's none of the unions business. The UNIONS put GM out of business becuase it couldn't pay the bennifits the UNION was asking for. Verizon is right in hiring new workers, and suing the UNIONs. Now if you get a job with Verizon you get what you negotiate for, not something handed to you on a platter by the UJNION. The day of the UNION is dead, and most states are passing laws that allow employees to choose wether they want to join the UNION. I have agood job, I negotiated my pay and bennifits, and told the UNION to take there $250.00 a month dues, and shove it up there collective !*$.


RE: send them to jail
By GetRealNow on 8/11/11, Rating: -1
RE: send them to jail
By EricMartello on 8/11/2011 1:35:57 PM , Rating: 3
It stands to reason that if they were not encumbered by the slothful union workers that they could have realized improved revenues, better quality of service and possibly reduced costs to consumers. I admit the last one is unlikely, but saying that they're all good just because they aren't losing money doesn't mean the union isn't a problem.

To be fair, the millions of qualified Americans who are willing to work for equal to or less than that which the Union workers are already getting should be hired, while the union whiners get kicked to the curb. The entitlement mentality the plagues the US workforce is a problem that needs to be addressed.


RE: send them to jail
By vvincente1 on 8/11/2011 4:18:38 PM , Rating: 2
Please learn to spell you uneducated hack.


RE: send them to jail
By undummy on 8/12/2011 2:17:42 AM , Rating: 2
Can't blame GM Union's for junk overpriced cars. That's the managements fault for approving vehicles that aren't selling. The Union simply assembled what was approved by...

I'm going to feel really safe in an airliner assembled by minimum wage workers with no skills or training. Remember this thread when the 1st one crashes because of bad welds/rivets, missing components, or some other assembly error by someone that doesn't know what they're doing.


RE: send them to jail
By Mahazy on 8/11/2011 12:19:22 PM , Rating: 2
How about... Economics and Job roles.

Economics:
Sure, I would love to have the ferrari of health coverage too, so would everyone in the company I work for. But, if they did that, their costs would go through the roof and to cover that, they would have to either A) reduce compensation or B) increase cost of the product or service they are selling. How do you think option A would go over with the work force? How do you think option B would play out in the market against their competitors...

Job Roles:
Let's be honest here, how many people in the world are cut out to be a CEO of a company, let alone a CEO of a large fortune 500 (or 100?) company? How about senior executive level? It's a very small percentage, even smaller so for highly successful senior executives. So those companies have to do what it takes to get good talent to run their companies, grow them and assure they are profitable. most of the time that means they are paid in millions, not thousands. As to bonuses, they are typically tied to achieving goals, such as increasing efficiency, profitability or market share.

Please take a minute to really think things through before you write out your opinions. It's quick and easy to dump out whatever comes to mind first, which is typically influenced by an outside source. It's harder and takes time to analyze for yourself why you are for or against a certain issue. Both political parties take full advantage of this concept.


RE: send them to jail
By GetRealNow on 8/11/2011 1:07:20 PM , Rating: 1
Benefits are just one part of the compensation package and many employers advertise them to promote skilled workers to apply. So cutting benefits is a pay cut and a large one at that. You can choose to work for one company and make $75K but get no benefits, or you can choose to work for another and make $50K, but get full coverage and a pension. Or if you're skilled enough, and their is a lack of workers, you might get both!

The Verizon employees are doing exactly what a free market allows them to do: protest by walking away. If it was one person, they would be fired, but because it's a huge number of people, the company must listen. Or the execs can ride their golden parachutes as they let it go the way of Eastern Airlines. Either way, free market decides.

If the company was loosing money, I'd be far more critical of the strike.

As for your job roles: I agree with you. Being CEO of a small company is difficult. Being CEO of some of the corporate monsters we have is beyond daunting. They earn a lot of money. My problem with them is when they do what American Airlines CEOs did. The company was loosing money. They set out numerous rules and regulations that made workers work three times hard to save fuel costs. They successfully saved $90 Million in the process. But they management then gave themselves $120 Million in bonuses for saving the $90 Million WHILE the company was still bleeding out. That's corporate greed.

As for you last paragraph: You can't ask people to think reasonably about topics. It's not in the react-first-think-later mentality that our culture encourages. Also, jealousy and greed on both sides is prevalent. One group wants more money when a company is loosing money left and right. Another wants nobody to get anything because they are jealous that they can't achieve the same pay check.

And not to make this all meaningless as arguing on the internet usually is...DT makes it's money as people angrily troll these stories. There's a business plan for ya. I'll never be a gold miner, but I'll happily sell you the pick axes and shovels at a reasonable price.

And now, in a show of protest, I'll stop posting, go to work, and earn my benefit package! Think of me what you will... Peace out!


RE: send them to jail
By GetRealNow on 8/11/2011 1:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
Second to last paragraph should have started with "And NOW to make this all meaningless.."

Got attacked by the typo monster.


RE: send them to jail
By Solandri on 8/11/2011 6:03:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Benefits are just one part of the compensation package and many employers advertise them to promote skilled workers to apply. So cutting benefits is a pay cut and a large one at that.

I don't have an opinion on this one way or another (both Verizon and many unions suck). But if you're going to count benefit cuts as a pay cut, then you need to include the value of those benefits when citing hourly wages or annual salary.

You cannot publicize base wages/salary (no benefits) in order to make it look like union workers are not getting paid a lot, then in the next breath claim that benefit cuts are pay cuts. You have to pick one definition of "pay" and stick with it.


RE: send them to jail
By Dr of crap on 8/11/2011 12:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
If in fact there are TWO heathcare plans for this company,
then that should be made level for all.

Now about cost -
IN the REAL world heathacare costs have risen every year and I have paid more each year.
I do not strike and NOT work because I have to pony up more to have health coverage, I pay it and keep working.
The turned up noses at having to pay more for health coverage is just stupid.
Have you paid any attention to what the increases are each year??
The fact that this and other unions think that their members chouldn't face big increase to thier healthcare is just crazy. It the single highest deduction we face - FOR EVERYONE.

Think of it this way, and I know Verision is a big company, but if the company has to cover most of the cost of insuring it's employees, it has less cash with which to expand and grow, and be even MORE PROFITABLE!


RE: send them to jail
By darkhawk1980 on 8/11/2011 1:01:21 PM , Rating: 2
What makes you think the union isn't just as greedy? There's always 2 sides to a fence.

My person opinion regarding unions is that they are the downfall of the normal workers. By joining the unions, you get labeled a lazy worker that wants the same as a CEO. By not joining the unions, you may not get what you deserve unless you fight for it. I'd rather be part of the latter, all things given. I'm not a lazy person, and I'm not a normal worker either. I have my degree, and I've worked in unions before, and I've worked without them. Unions are an added cost to any business. They're the distributor between the consumer and the producer. Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the distributor and work directly with the consumer, as a producer? Of course!

Unions were needed long ago, back when corporations really took advantage of employees during the industrial revolution. In this day and age, we are no longer a manufacturing power house like we were back then (it all moved to china, mexico, india, etc..). If an employee trips over his own feet walking up steps, the building isn't safe and $1,000 must be spent making it safe so said (most likely clumsy) employee won't hurt himself, where he wouldn't have if he wasn't busy doing something else he shouldn't have been doing. We've all seen it happen, we all know it happens. Rather than punish the employee for their ignorance, we praise them for finding unsafe working conditions and charge the company to fix the 'problem'.

Imagine all the various situations such as above (doesn't have to be 'safety' related) where the unions force a company to do something that really isn't needed, and suddenly you can realize why they can't afford to give you 'the ferrari equivalent of medical plans'.

If you can't fight for your own rights in this day and age, then you probably don't deserve it. Do you deserve $20/day plus pension plus full healthcare for tightening a bolt at the Harley Davidson factory? NO. You deserve $13/hour, a matching 401k, and good healthcare and be happy you have it! College graduates are lucky to be making $20/hour after graduating with a 4 year degree. Why should you make the same with no degree? With only your very limited amount of experience? I mean, sure you're great at tightening that bolt, but can you do anything else? Did you attempt to get cross trained so you know how to put the nuts on? NO! That's not in your job description! You don't need to know that!

Good luck with your attitude. It's sure to be the downfall of whatever company your union holds ransom.


RE: send them to jail
By Targon on 8/12/2011 8:25:27 AM , Rating: 2
The problem with this argument is that the economy is in bad shape right now, so there is no chance to "fight for better benefits" on your own. It is all about "accept what we offer, or go ahead and try to find another job".

Overall I agree that unions have pushed for benefits far beyond what the job should pay, and that needs to go, but if you are making more than minimum wage, it is really going to be difficult to fight for better wages on your own if your employer does not value YOU as an individual employee.

Now, I can see where a union, rather than pushing for contracts for guaranteed wage increases and such should act as an arbitrator for the individual employees. So if you feel you are underpaid and you ask for a raise and get ignored or told no, then you could go to the union rep and have the union help by pushing for YOU. There are always going to be people who deserve to get raises but don't, and those who don't deserve raises but do. When unions advocate for those who don't deserve a raise to get a raise, THAT is what many dislike about unions.

So, how much SHOULD people get paid for certain jobs in a given area? Should teachers who get the summer off get paid $85,000/year plus a pension and great health benefits when the average skilled worker in the same area gets paid $45,000? How about the teacher gets that pay but due to getting paid well doesn't get a pension?


RE: send them to jail
By FITCamaro on 8/11/2011 3:49:06 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry but the CEO is more valuable to the company than a customer service employee. There are millions of people qualified to answer a phone. There are not millions of people qualified to run a company.

And last I checked, not all CEOs come from rich families. The CEO of my company went through the military academy, worked hard, and started his own company. As a result of his work I have a job that I love.


RE: send them to jail
By Targon on 8/12/2011 8:16:01 AM , Rating: 2
A big problem is that many of these CEOs and executives out there are incompetent and shouldn't be allowed to run water, let alone a company. There is a huge difference between the founder of a company who had to grow the business him/herself and the CEO of a business who was awarded the job but really does not have enough experience to really look for what is broken within the company. I've worked for a number of companies where the executives for the most part were clueless(with some exceptions), and as a result, they just didn't have a clue how to guide the business to being successful.


RE: send them to jail
By Solandri on 8/11/2011 6:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why is union greed inexcusable and executive greed excusable?

You can fire the executive if s/he doesn't perform. You frequently can't fire the union worker for non-performance. (Do note that I am just as opposed to executive hiring contracts which restrict a company's ability to fire them, with minimum employment durations and large severance packages.)

I'm a big believer in reciprocity. It should be as easy or as difficult to fire someone as it is for them to quit their job.


RE: send them to jail
By phantom505 on 8/11/2011 1:37:46 PM , Rating: 1
Why are you so jealous of what other people bargained for?

Get your own union and get the same benefits.

Quit spewing this Divine Right of CEO's nonsense. It makes you sound stupid.


RE: send them to jail
By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:42:01 PM , Rating: 3
No sabotage at all. I went to some of the "downed sites". They are having normal weather and accident outages. One "sabotage" was a car accident, completely unrelated to any Verizon worker. Cars hitting poles or boxes is a common occurrence. Competent tech's can fix these issues quickly.

Outages are normal, especially with rain/hail from last weekend. But, THERE IS NOBODY COMPETENT TO FIX IT. Don't expect the scab managers or contractors to be able to figure it out.

Anyone who thinks that these are low skilled jobs are fools themselves. Verizon's network is a puzzle of technology from every decade all merged together to trying to work. Every single telephony/network company has products all thrown in the mix.


RE: send them to jail
By CZroe on 8/11/2011 8:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
When I read that they were striking because the company had millions in profit and they wanted a higher share, I laughed. Those profits need to be used for future technology roll-outs and investments. Those same roll-outs will be keeping these people employed. Biting the hand tat feeds. They act like the company is supposed to tread water and have no profits for them to be happy.


RE: send them to jail
By undummy on 8/12/2011 2:20:28 AM , Rating: 2
Obviously, you read wrong.

They're on strike because verizon is taking away everything that they've worked for in the past 50 years.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A HIGHER SHARE.


Customer in full support of Verizon.
By mkrech on 8/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: Customer in full support of Verizon.
By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:47:27 PM , Rating: 5
But, corporate tyranny is fine.

Enjoy your plutocracy, as we're all soon to be slaves to the forming oligarchy. The Plutarchy owns you, and the union is fighting for you.


By mkrech on 8/12/2011 12:09:40 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, you are wrong. The tyranny does not exist at the corporate level.

Tyranny can only come through unchecked power. Unchecked power cannot exist in a truly free market. Due to government intervention, the US is no longer a free market .

Corporations always work to compete and succeed financially. In a free market that is by competitive advantage. However, in our corporate statist economy, it is now achieved by political advantage. Lobbying for political favor has replaced competitive advantage. This is where the unchecked power lives... in our government.

Thus, the tyranny that leads to this plutocracy does exist. You are just not looking far enough. The corporations are merely the puppets, as are the unions. The statist elites currently expanding governments power and reach as fast as possible are the ones pulling the strings. The forming oligarchy that you refer to does exist. It is just not where you are pointing.

It is the liberal elite who are elected through support of large corporations. (ie: GE competing by exercising political favor instead of competitive advantage) The corporation then pledges allegiance to the elected tyrant in exchange for the reward of being the chosen winner.

Undummy, you and I fear the same thing. You are just stopping short in who you are blaming. Look to the true enemy, it is who you are supporting.

Respectfully.


RE: Customer in full support of Verizon.
By ipay on 8/11/2011 6:15:33 PM , Rating: 2
Unions do some stupid stuff, but:

Isn't it the right of every worker to negotiate for what they are paid? And isn't it the right of every company to either decide to pay that much, or find someone else who will work for less?

And if you believe that, then why shouldn't i be able to compare my salary to a co-workers and decide that we should be able to negotiate terms at the same time?

And from there, why limit it to just 2 people when more want to join in?

I really see nothing wrong at all with unions, and restricting them seems like you are artificially killing the labor free market.

I get why people are upset at unions, because it seems like they often do get overpaid. I just don't see how banning them would be any better. If Verizon can find workers for cheaper, then they should absolutely hire them instead. If not, then these employees are obviously valuable enough to get paid what they are asking for.


By mkrech on 8/12/2011 12:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed.

Unfortunately, the current environment is nothing like you idealistic scenario you describe.

As an example, look into all the news and history about a new plant Boeing built in South Carolina. The NLRB (National Labor Relations Board) has interjected itself causing harm to both Boeing and its employees so that unions will benefit.

Unfortunately, unions have grown beyond just a collective of the values and desires of the members with the purpose of negotiating in their best interest. Unions have become a forced revenue source tapping the earnings of employees and using the funds to lobby for more power while influencing government and oppressing its own members at the same time.

Union organizers from 100 years ago would find today's unions indistinguishable, if not more evil, than the companies they fought in their day.


This will be interesting!
By atlmann10 on 8/11/2011 12:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
However; it looks to me as if the union has already lost really. They said Verizon has already trained 40,000 workers, managers, etc to take the place of the 45,000 on strike. SO; it looks to me as if this is financially good for Verizon. As I can promise you those 40,000 no union workers get nowhere near the level of benefits, support, or even pay as the union members on strike would if they were working. Maybe Verizon will just sue the union claiming there demands are illegal and therefore they no longer need them or there workers. Oh wait looks as if proceedings have already started for that! Damn you just lost a lot of 5 and 6 figure jobs by throwing a fit as if you were a 4 year old being picked on at the playground.




RE: This will be interesting!
By DanNeely on 8/11/2011 1:15:07 PM , Rating: 2
Utility companies (and others who would suffer huge losses in a strike like petrochemicals) routinely train enough of their salaried staff to fill in during a strike (often by promoting from the ranks). This limits the catastrophic problems that would come from not being able to connect new customers, repair damaged cables, etc.

It's not a panacea though. The salaried staff doing the fill in are typically paid more, and while they're out working OT hours without OT pay they're not doing their normal jobs leaving the remaining office staff to pick up the rest of the critical work while everything else is delayed. The disruption to schedules and the rising levels of stress and ultimately disgruntlement if it goes on long enough mean that the company can't run this way indefinitely.

It strengthens the company position vs union workers who're having to live off savings or credit cards but it doesn't let the company hold out indefinitely any more than the union can.


RE: This will be interesting!
By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:59:15 PM , Rating: 2
The last strike lasted 18 days. That is how long it took for the 'trainees' to ruin the network. Verizon needs their multi-platformed EXPERIENCED tech or they'll turn into another plagued with problems cable company.

Call Verizon for a Fios/phone/DSL install. They're already backed up for months. I was on 'hold' for 411. Too funny.

Verizon is getting daily public utility commission fines in most states for the 'lack of timely repair' and 'excessive hold times'. Its the PUC that needs to get proactive.

And, all those so-called trained contractors and managers don't have ANY EXPERIENCE. So, nothing will be repaired properly and nothing will be repaired on time.


There is ....
By Etern205 on 8/11/2011 11:57:43 AM , Rating: 2
There is a Verizon store near my area, too bad there is nothing to sabotage since it's in front of a bus sign.
The first two days, there were lots of them and it was difficult to get across as they're blocking most of the sidewalk leaving a single aisle path. Some are even sitting on lawn chair only missing is the BBQ pit and a beach umbrella. Now police have intervene and setup a "cage" using barricades and anyone striking have to be inside like a monkey!




RE: There is ....
By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:52:10 PM , Rating: 2
All large groups of protesters are blocked off. Need to keep the protestors and the public safe.

So Monkey, you've never been behind a barricade at a parade, show, game, .... or while waiting in line at the bank, store...? Same thing.


RE: There is ....
By Etern205 on 8/13/2011 9:35:12 AM , Rating: 1
Banks, stores, parades, etc all have waiting lines
Parade have barriers along the path of the parade to prevent
spectators from going into the streets.
Even if there are no barriers, all of them will respect the public and behave in a orderly fashion, NOT BLOCK THE ENTIRE FUCKING SIDE WALK LEAVING A SINGLE AISLE PATH!!!

So Monkey, have you learn something?


hiring vandals as workers is a bonus
By JimKiler on 8/11/2011 12:07:47 PM , Rating: 2
Always nice to know when you are hiring vandals. I hope they find them and can fire them.




By undummy on 8/11/2011 3:49:30 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't call Mother Nature a vandal, or the end resulting damage of a car accident.

BTW, most of the cut fiber that I repaired were cut by the competitors.


Union thugs
By overlandpark4me on 8/11/2011 10:24:05 PM , Rating: 2
Fire them, hire replacement workers, making sure to arm them if they are assaulted my these losers. Unions, your time is over. We can't afford you anymore




RE: Union thugs
By undummy on 8/12/2011 2:09:39 AM , Rating: 2
Can't afford unemployement.
Can't afford SSI or SSDI.
Can't afford welfare.
Can't afford food stamps.
Can't afford the the war.
Can't afford sec-8 housing.
Can't afford equal opportunity.
Can't afford MINIMUM WAGE.
Can afford child labor.
Can't afford overtime pay.
Can't afford illegal immigration.
Can't afford trade deficit.

So, at what point do you plan to stop the destruction of America? Only when it affects your paycheck, or your children, grandchildren? Too late.

We keep a lot of things that we can't afford. You think that eliminating the Union will suddenly make it all better?

Don't worry, no Union in the fields and your kids or you can still get a job:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/feds-find-young-chil...

It takes a couple years, of training with an experienced tech, on the job working for Verizon, to be able to do the job. So, there is no replacement worker off the street.


By fran on 8/12/2011 9:10:37 AM , Rating: 2
Dear Mr. Thonis: (Administrator at Verizon)

I am a Cablevision customer. I have had thoughts of changing to Verizon. But when I realized that Verizon (a multi million dollar company) has behaved in such a CRUEL manner to just pull the PENSION from your loyal, long timers, then I started my own neighborhood crusaide against you.

I have started petitions, my community is picketing against Verizon, and this is all due to the Inhumaine way you are cruelly treating your loyal (almost retired) people!

Verizon has proven to be a CRUEL and IMMORAL company, who is clearly wealthy, but unwilliing to let these poor workers retire with some dignity.

Micky Adams, I'm sure is enjoying his house on the hill, and HIS children are all doing fine, thank you! But the poor middle class blue collar guy is being kicked to the gutter by Verizon, after 18 years, and Verizon is telling them to "have a nice day".

I have contacted the media to do a HUMAN INTEREST story of the Cruely of Verizon.
Remember- when workers sign into your company NINETEEN YEARS AGO....AND YOU OFFER THEM A PENSION..............you are MORALLY OBLIGATED to stand by that promise when your workers have been with you for 19 years!

Shame on Verizon. I will NEVER switch to you, and I am in the process of using a Public television station to spout out the CRUELY in which this RICH conglomerate is robbing the old timers of all they have to retire on.

Francyn Winter, and the Community of Huntington, New York.

Francyn




Verizon Unethical & Cruel
By fran on 8/12/2011 9:13:07 AM , Rating: 2
Dear Mr. Thonis: (Verizon Administrator)

I am a Cablevision customer. I have had thoughts of changing to Verizon. But when I realized that Verizon (a multi million dollar company) has behaved in such a CRUEL manner to just pull the PENSION from your loyal, long timers, then I started my own neighborhood crusaide against you.

I have started petitions, my community is picketing against Verizon, and this is all due to the Inhumaine way you are cruelly treating your loyal (almost retired) people!

Verizon has proven to be a CRUEL and IMMORAL company, who is clearly wealthy, but unwilliing to let these poor workers retire with some dignity.

Micky Adams, I'm sure is enjoying his house on the hill, and HIS children are all doing fine, thank you! But the poor middle class blue collar guy is being kicked to the gutter by Verizon, after 18 years, and Verizon is telling them to "have a nice day".

I have contacted the media to do a HUMAN INTEREST story of the Cruely of Verizon.
Remember- when workers sign into your company NINETEEN YEARS AGO....AND YOU OFFER THEM A PENSION..............you are MORALLY OBLIGATED to stand by that promise when your workers have been with you for 19 years!

Shame on Verizon. I will NEVER switch to you, and I am in the process of using a Public television station to spout out the CRUELY in which this RICH conglomerate is robbing the old timers of all they have to retire on.

Francyn Winter, and the Community of Huntington, New York.

Francyn




a VERY CRUEL Comapany......
By fran on 8/12/2011 9:14:27 AM , Rating: 2
Dear Mr. Thonis: (Verizon Administrator)

I am a Cablevision customer. I have had thoughts of changing to Verizon. But when I realized that Verizon (a multi million dollar company) has behaved in such a CRUEL manner to just pull the PENSION from your loyal, long timers, then I started my own neighborhood crusaide against you.

I have started petitions, my community is picketing against Verizon, and this is all due to the Inhumaine way you are cruelly treating your loyal (almost retired) people!

Verizon has proven to be a CRUEL and IMMORAL company, who is clearly wealthy, but unwilliing to let these poor workers retire with some dignity.

Micky Adams, I'm sure is enjoying his house on the hill, and HIS children are all doing fine, thank you! But the poor middle class blue collar guy is being kicked to the gutter by Verizon, after 18 years, and Verizon is telling them to "have a nice day".

I have contacted the media to do a HUMAN INTEREST story of the Cruely of Verizon.
Remember- when workers sign into your company NINETEEN YEARS AGO....AND YOU OFFER THEM A PENSION..............you are MORALLY OBLIGATED to stand by that promise when your workers have been with you for 19 years!

Shame on Verizon. I will NEVER switch to you, and I am in the process of using a Public television station to spout out the CRUELY in which this RICH conglomerate is robbing the old timers of all they have to retire on.

Francyn Winter, and the Community of Huntington, New York.

Francyn




Not good
By shaidorsai on 8/15/2011 7:07:19 PM , Rating: 2
I completely sympathize with the union employee desire to keep the good pay and benefits they have. I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone going to jail for being an idiot.




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