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Development is expected to take some time

Verizon Wireless and AT&T announced plans for their newly-won 700 MHz spectrum today, and the overall message is, “be patient.”

A press release from Verizon Wireless says that the company expects its 700 MHz network to go live by 2010, and it will be the home of its future 4G LTE (Long Term Evolution) wireless network. As required by the FCC, Verizon’s network will be fully open to access for all manner of software and devices, and the company hints that it expects to see use from a variety of consumer electronics, including wireless phones, medical devices and gaming consoles.

“This is the very best spectrum with excellent propagation and in-building characteristics. We also believe that the combination of the national, contiguous, same-frequency C-block footprint and our transition to LTE will make Verizon the preferred partner for developers of a new wave of consumer electronics and applications using this next generation technology,” said Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam.

Meanwhile, AT&T thinks that its spectrum winnings, which are free of the C-block’s heavy FCC regulations, will allow it to roll out a 700 MHz wireless services even faster than Verizon. “With fewer costly and complex regulations, we have the certainty and flexibility needed to move faster in rolling out new mobile technology,” said AT&T executive Ralph de la Vega.

AT&T will also employ LTE technology, which analysts expect to carry the wireless industry past its current 3G GSM and CDMA infrastructures. However, many seem to think that LTE technology may not be ready until 2011 – a full two years after the 700 MHz’s vacancy in 2009.

De la Vega also said he is embracing Google’s open-source Android platform, which AT&T expects to use for “data and content.”

The announcements come on the lifting of the FCC’s gag order last night, which prohibited companies from discussing auction details due to concerns over collusion.

Google was quick to chime in as well, noting that it was more than happy to not win any spectrum: a post on the official Google Blog confirmed suspicions that the company met the C-block’s reserve price solely to insure its open-access requirement, which the company spearheaded earlier last year.

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8 Years to use spectrum
By Doormat on 4/4/2008 6:27:18 PM , Rating: 2
FYI, companies have 8 years to use the spectrum or they lose it. At the end of 4 years the FCC requires regular updates on their deployment schedule if they fall below a certain covered population/total population threshold.

Also, the article doesn't mention expected 4G LTE speeds. Wikipedia says 250Mb/s down per every 20MHz of spectrum but thats split over however many users there are.

RE: 8 Years to use spectrum
By KristopherKubicki on 4/4/2008 7:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
It's really up to the providers. I think the Verizon 4G test in Chicago was 250Mbps per channel, but depending on the compression scheme and users, it could be anything really.

RE: 8 Years to use spectrum
By JoKeRr on 4/5/2008 6:25:40 PM , Rating: 3
the speed of 250mbit/s on LTE has already been achieved by a Japanese company called Docomo, using 4X4 MIMO, I assume it is a fixed position transmission. In a real world scenario, the transmission will most likely be 4X2 MIMO (4 or 3 antenna for BaseStation and 2 atenna for mobile phone), since it'll be a lot cheaper to put in 2 atennas than 3 or 4 on a cellphone.

As far as mobile transmission speed is concerned, most recently Nortel demonstrated LTE transmission speed of 50mbit/s in a 110km/hr moving mobile. Unfortunately the number of antennas used for baseStation and mobile is unknown. Keep in mind none of the LTE demos currently ran on the 700MHz spectrum.

RE: 8 Years to use spectrum
By Alexstarfire on 4/5/2008 11:25:04 AM , Rating: 4
Whatever happened to the 3G network? I mean, 4G sounds great on paper, but if it turns out like the 3G network has then pretty much no one in the US will be able to use it anyways. I love how AT&T gave me a 3G sim card, but have no 3G network anywhere near me.

RE: 8 Years to use spectrum
By RjBass on 4/5/2008 11:57:44 PM , Rating: 2
Where do you live? I am normally within range of a 3g tower. The only times I can't get 3g are when I am more out in rural farmland areas like anywhere in Kansas west of Kansas City.

The 3g networks from what I understand are in most of the major metropolitan areas and still expanding.

RE: 8 Years to use spectrum
By Alexstarfire on 4/6/2008 4:45:26 PM , Rating: 2
Just outside of Atlanta. Actually, according to the 3g network map that ATT has I should have it, but my phone would beg to differ. It's supposed to have a little 3g icon when it's in a 3g network, but it don't got one and I've never seen one on it. I actually just switched it from GSM only to GSM/3G and absolutely nothing changed. Course, it could be that my phone isn't fully updated, but thanks to Sony I really don't have a way to update it for free. I either get charged $.01 per KB on a 3044KB download on my phone, or I don't get it at all. The stupid Update Service program they have for the computer doesn't find an update despite my phone having a firmware that's over 10 updated old.

By phxfreddy on 4/5/2008 4:12:30 AM , Rating: 1
........I think google will be sorry they did not win. These guys are not going to go down without a fight. They have a sweet monopoly. They're going to want to let me have unlimited data transfer for a single (reasonable)price? I think not.

By Alexstarfire on 4/5/2008 11:36:37 AM , Rating: 2
Why would Google be sorry? They got exactly what they wanted out of it, open access.

By KristopherKubicki on 4/5/2008 11:47:46 AM , Rating: 2
The are one of the primary lobbies in the whitespace debate though. This would lead me to believe Verizon found a way to make "open" access not really that open. Or at least that's something Google is concerned about.

By theapparition on 4/7/2008 7:10:19 AM , Rating: 4
You're right. Why spend over 4 billion for a piece of the spectrum that if it was truely "open" you could develope for free.

No, most likely Verizon will set the protocal for the C-block, yet do it with technology that you must license from them. That is, you can play all you want in our yard, but we're going to charge you to get through the gate.

By UNCjigga on 4/8/2008 12:08:14 PM , Rating: 2
Well I would imagine that "Open Access" services would be subjected to QoS limitations. In other words, the carrier might reserve high-bandwidth for its own services, and limit "open access" devices and services to low-bandwidth. I'm not sure how the Open Access provisions are worded but I'd be surprised if the FCC would fully block carriers from implementing QoS rules across all services.

Makes me think of my options for internet...
By lagitup on 4/4/2008 8:00:02 PM , Rating: 2
the phone company and the cable company. Hopefully FCC will open the other part of the spectrum that google was lobbying them to (or have they already?)

By UNCjigga on 4/8/2008 12:19:31 PM , Rating: 2
What is the FCC doing with D block? My understanding is that it didn't meet the minimum bid (because of the public safety provisions) so do they re-auction it at a later date? What will happen to the public safety rules?

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