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Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate

Microsoft Office Professional 2007
Microsoft shows off new packaging for its two top sellers

The fellas over at Neowin.net were alerted that Microsoft has unveiled the packaging for Windows Vista and Office 2007. While there are only three images posted, the new design direction for Microsoft packaging is quite apparent.

According to the Windows Vista Team Blog, the compact packaging is made out of plastic and is designed for long-term protection and storage of the software. Microsoft's Nick White also indicates that the new packaging will be carried over to future Microsoft software releases.

As a refresher, here's the pricing for four consumer releases of Windows Vista:

  • Windows Vista Home Basic, $199/$99.95
  • Windows Vista Home Premium, $239/$159
  • Windows Vista Business, $299/$199
  • Windows Vista Ultimate, $399/$259

And here's pricing for Office 2007:

  • Microsoft Office Professional 2007 ($499/$329)
  • Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 ($449/$279)
  • Microsoft Office Standard 2007 ($399/$239)
  • Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007 ($149/NA)

Windows Vista is expected to be released to consumers in January 2007 while Office 2007 is expected to hit store shelves sometime after.

Update 10/31/2006: Microsoft has unveiled packaging for all of the retail editions of Vista and Office 2007. You can check them out here.



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Okay price
By tuteja1986 on 10/30/2006 10:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
I am going to buy Windows Vista Home Premium + cheapest office package with Word 07. Don't need the ultimate , as its got nothing i would use. Vista home premium is like XP pro with MCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista : look at edition section and see the difference between all the version.




RE: Okay price
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2006 11:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
Not quite for someone who actually works IT jobs using XP Pro (like me). As a .net web developer the lack of IIS would be troubling, as would the lack of RDP and other such useful tools... Vista Ultimiate for me once I'm sure I can switch with out losing vital hardware, thank god for MSDN.


RE: Okay price
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2006 11:15:58 PM , Rating: 2
opps, clicked the wrong message... Should be attached to the one below RE Vista Home Premiam is just like XP Pro.


Vista's policy
By Omega215D on 10/31/2006 12:46:26 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone hear the news on Vista allowing for one "major upgrade" before having to purchase another license for future overhauls after the first one? Makes you wonder on how MS will sell it as a viable gaming platform as they have been doing for some time.




RE: Vista's policy
By OddTSi on 10/31/2006 2:09:42 AM , Rating: 2
I thought that turned out to be a myth and that the real limit is closer to 10? But I'm not sure if I'm remembering that correctly so don't quote me on it.


RE: Vista's policy
By OddTSi on 10/31/2006 3:06:10 AM , Rating: 2
I knew I read somewhere that it was a myth.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/26/vista-license-t...

"And instead of the single license transfer stipulation that we'd heard before, Redmond has now gone on record saying that you can re-install Vista up to 10 times without penalty -- and possibly more, though that will apparently be decided on a case-by-case basis."


Corner
By Aelius on 10/31/2006 2:25:26 AM , Rating: 5
First think I thought of when I looked at the box was that they were cutting corners.

Don't ask me why but that's the very first thing that came to me.




How Big?
By Harkonnen on 10/30/2006 10:21:07 PM , Rating: 2
How big are these cases?

Are they like the size of the cases that new pc games come in?




RE: How Big?
By Soviet Robot on 10/31/2006 2:16:44 AM , Rating: 2
They look to be the size of a double DVD case.
But new rounded translucent packaging. I think it's neat, but since I and many other people will be buying it OEM anyways it doesn't matter.


Office
By Soviet Robot on 10/31/2006 2:14:50 AM , Rating: 2
$150 for Office Stud/Tch is the standard retail price, and plenty of people buy it from my store.

If Vista Ultimate came with Office, I would buy that.
But since it doesn't(correct me if I'm wrong), Home Premium sounds good.




RE: Office
By Shark Tek on 10/31/2006 6:58:22 AM , Rating: 2
I dont know if you knew this but Vista will be packaged on Humacao Puerto Rico.

I wonder how much time will take to some licenses to slip to the underworld here. :D


$400 yeah right NEVER!
By Einy0 on 10/31/2006 2:56:01 AM , Rating: 1
I wonder how much Ultimate OEM will be... I've been playing with Vista since BETA 2 and it looks snappy but software compatability is awful thus far. RC2 is much better than RC1 was. It still doesn't work with Nero 7 or Power DVD 6. I guess power DVD 7 works but I really don't see the need to make the upgrade until Blueray and HD-DVD drives get cheaper. I seriously doubt I'll be touching Vista Final until DX10 games start coming out. There really isn't any reason other than that to bother. Eye candy is nice but not at that price. As far as office goes I started using OpenOffice a few years ago and I'll never buy MS Office again. It works just as well if not better. There's just no reason to ever use MS office again... And the price for OpenOffice is unbeatable...




RE: $400 yeah right NEVER!
By dug777 on 10/31/2006 4:53:11 AM , Rating: 3
I've said i'll manage with OO in the past, but after a few weeks with it the nasty formating problems when moving between OO and Word on different computers particularly drives me insane and i realise that i do really need MS office...

It also comes with plenty of stuff OO can't do (can OO do voice typing?), looks pretty, and for most of use the more basic levels will be quite sufficient.

Off topic, i'm learning my lesson for daring to defend Sony against knee-jerk anti-sony whining on dailytech, my rating is so low the site thinks i'm a robot :P


Ultimate
By bob661 on 10/30/2006 11:54:48 PM , Rating: 3
I'll probably get Ultimate and keep running OO unless I can get it cheap again from work.




bs right there
By vze4z7nx on 10/31/2006 5:35:58 PM , Rating: 1
ok vista is gay and so is microsoft
theres no point paying for a piece of shit that gets a virus every month. give me a break.
op and dont upgrade, i was at digital life last week and the only thing thats changed is the color scheme. full of bs




RE: bs right there
By Ksyder on 10/31/2006 10:51:44 PM , Rating: 2
I've been running XP for a handful of years and the only virus I've ever got was from a keygen one time which was my own stupid fault. Sure the average person might have problems with viruses and such if they are not very well educated about computers, but if you are qualified enough to say that microsoft is a piece of shit then you should be educated enough to not get a virus every month.


By lemonadesoda on 11/1/2006 2:14:07 PM , Rating: 3
From what I understand about the new Vista License... and I'm sure a similar license system is embedded in the new Office, the question is WHY A LONG-LASTING CASE?

Since MS is moving toward a "one-off" installation, then repurchase, then they might as well ship the software in recycled plain paper envelopes. Use once, and throw away.

NO... this sexy new packaging is to CREATE THE ILLUSION of longer lasting... while the contents expire on opening.

GIMMICK. And it will fool most punters.




I will wait...
By Trisped on 10/31/2006 12:29:33 PM , Rating: 1
Vista is nice, Vista is pretty, but it is also expensive (and I expect price will drop after a year or 2)I also wonder how much of today's software is compatible. Will everything work with Ultimate or just some things? I think I will wait till sp1 or sp2. That way I know many of the major bugs have been fixed and new products should all work with it.

What happened to OEM prices? Are they the same as upgrade?




RE: I will wait...
By imaheadcase on 10/31/2006 1:13:35 PM , Rating: 1
You can get a cheap upgrade to OEM with purchase of hardware, that means basically you can buy a screw and be eligible for a OEM version.

On Newegg.com you can buy winxp SP2 and get a free upgrade to Vista Business..$150 not to bad i guess.

Expect the same with other versions aswell


By Sungpooz on 10/31/2006 2:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
honestly, I have the office 2007 beta (and so many other people do- it's even piratable at the moment), and i'd like to know what the difference really is. it's a very nice new look to it and a upgraded UI, but will the official release have that many more features than the beta?

and no packaging really shouldn't alter the price unless it's coming to us in a carbon-fiber/titanium bulletproof suitcase




By Randalllind on 11/1/2006 11:15:20 AM , Rating: 2
They said they were doing away with the Teach Student edition because people buy that over Office pro. Looks to me they just renamed it and removed teacher with home still same price.

This will open Office up to more people. I know you could buy the techer/student edition at BestBuy but unless you weren't either it was wrong to do so.

I believe Microsoft started cracking down on that.




All-in-one Discs?
By carage on 12/11/2006 3:25:02 AM , Rating: 2
If I remember correctly, all versions of Vista use the same DVD, so the only difference between the packages is probably just the license number. Perhaps someone will just buy the lowest version of Vista instead of downloading and burning a 4.7GB DVD, and then find some keygen and/or activation hack and gets Ultimate in the end.




By Lazarus Dark on 10/31/2006 2:26:53 PM , Rating: 2
while the above post was a bit overthetop, I have to say what difference does the packaging make when half of us are getting the oem version anyway? I mean ultimate oem will already be twice the price of what i paid for my oem xp pro. theres no way i can pay 400 for retail. I'd have to go cold turkey linux first, I make twelve bucks an hour, I just don't have that kind of money to throw around.

umm...It is nice packaging though,...I guess...


149 for Office home??
By Clauzii on 10/30/06, Rating: -1
RE: 149 for Office home??
By Clauzii on 10/30/06, Rating: -1
RE: 149 for Office home??
By Micronite on 10/30/2006 11:05:10 PM , Rating: 1
Most people will probably still buy it.

The math is actually quite simple:
If 1 person buys the software for $150 and 1 person decides it's too much and downloads OpenOffice, they've done $50 better than they would have if it were $50.

Funny how we complain about software prices and then end up spending the money for them (pirates excluded, arrrrg ye mateys).

Like it or not, unless someone can provide a more attractive alternative, they're just participating in capitalism. And yeah, it sucks.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By ATC on 10/30/2006 11:52:38 PM , Rating: 2
$149 isn't bad for Office Home and Student 2007. My understanding is that they will allow installation on 3 PCs and it includes the full version of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By Omega215D on 10/31/2006 12:43:03 AM , Rating: 2
Knowing Staples the Home or Student Teacher editions will probably be $100 - 130 after a few months or so and that's with instant savings not rebates. Hell, I got Office 2003 for $110 and don't plan to upgrade for another 2 -3 years. Good price, works well and up to date Office does very well for itself.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By mac noob on 10/31/06, Rating: -1
RE: 149 for Office home??
By Flunk on 10/31/2006 12:41:47 PM , Rating: 2
Why not just get the Mac version of Office then?


RE: 149 for Office home??
By mac noob on 10/31/06, Rating: -1
RE: 149 for Office home??
By ZmaxDP on 10/31/2006 2:40:08 PM , Rating: 2
Could we create a "sarcasm" text for this forum. I'm sure some creative soul could combine italics, quotes, color, style, ad size to appropriately convey the proper level of sarcasm for a post. We could add some buttons next to the "quote" button.

sarcastic
Sarcastic.
SARCASTIC! (my fav!) (SARCASTIC!)

This way we'd all know when the deed was being done. (Unless of course someone Wanted to keep it secret...)(sarcastic)

Oh, by the by, FF2.0's spell checking rocks. Completely negates my previous 500 posts complaining about not having spell check in the forum. Thanks FF! (Not sarcastic)


RE: 149 for Office home??
By kkwst2 on 10/31/2006 6:11:14 PM , Rating: 2
Not to get off-topic, but I've been unimpressed with FF2.0. It locks up on me a lot. Went back to 1.5 on 3/4 computers.

So I for one will continue to eyeball it for now.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By Brainonska511 on 10/31/2006 2:02:27 PM , Rating: 2
You could also be going to school that has a licensing agreement with Microsoft. I got Office Pro 2003 for $25 through my school


RE: 149 for Office home??
By Jkm3141 on 10/31/2006 10:35:35 PM , Rating: 2
Blam, my mom works at RIT, 3 dollars for WinXP Professional and 6 dollars for Office 2003 Professional. These prices have not chanced since both XP and Office 2003 were available. Gotcha beat.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By ReblTeen84 on 11/1/2006 7:56:51 AM , Rating: 2
Both schools I went to gave us our software for no charge..was included in tuition. Office XP, 2003, Win2K, WinXP, 2 versions of Visual Studio, 2 versions of Windows Server. Definetly something I appreciated, even if I thought tuition was a little high at times (5 grand a semester).


RE: 149 for Office home??
By carage on 12/11/2006 3:09:34 AM , Rating: 2
I think it also depends on the classes you take. Some schools only offer conditional licenses.
The school I went to offered XP, Office, and Visual Studio for free but licenses were only available to CS or CSE majors or students currently enrolled in selective CS courses. I lost my access privileges after I stopped taking programming courses.
I heard it only costs $3X to get any version of Office 2003 as a M$ employee.


RE: 149 for Office home??
By dijuremo on 10/31/06, Rating: -1
RE: 149 for Office home??
By rushfan2006 on 10/31/2006 9:53:41 AM , Rating: 4
Wasn't this Open Office vs MS Office topic held about 1000 times before already?

Oh well its a fun one to debate like the Intel v Amd and PC v Apple wars.

The number one reason MS Office is so heavily used isn't because of the individual "private citizen" its because of corporate america. MS Office is the standard office suite of more corporations (large and small) than any other single office suite product. It is the de facto standard office tool.

Therefore, since people work with MS office all the time, they naturally use that at home (its a natural human condition to stick with what we are comfortable with). Not to mention people who work with it -- the free not free debate doesn't really carry much weight for incentive...since they likely use MS office at home for personal stuff and they aren't paying for it either. So if I already have access to using MS office for free (to me), why would I care one iota of going out of my way to download and install an opensource application suite?

Finally, despite how nice openoffice is (and yes I've used it myself at home many times)....in a decidely MS corporate business world -- your life is A LOT easier creating documents, presentations and colloborating with MS Office than trying to do the same with Open Office...Open Office is great for little dinky projects and home stuff where you don't have to collaborate with others...but trust me, MS Office, is the BETTER product overall..so its not just a money thing...it is the BETTER product.



RE: 149 for Office home??
By rushfan2006 on 10/31/2006 9:58:12 AM , Rating: 1
Btw, that response from me above is just trying to relate some reasoning for you as to why MS Office is still used over a free product. Its just based on my experience at three different companies I've worked at the last 12 years.

However, all that said...if you look at my *personal* laptop at home...its loaded with Open Office...I don't use it a lot, therefore it fits my meager needs quite well.



RE: 149 for Office home??
By creathir on 10/31/06, Rating: 0
RE: 149 for Office home??
By othercents on 10/31/2006 10:21:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
What I mean - 149 is way to much for some Programs everybody can find as open source.

Funny how you only say that Office is too much. What about Window Vista? $199 for Vista when you can get a free OS? Oh and what about paying $500 for a computer when there are plenty of free ones you can get from companies that are upgrading their old stock. Hey there is even free housing, you don't have to pay for a house. You also have free transportation and free internet and free food.

This is exactly why the free comment is out of line. Just because it is free doesn't make it better. I can get free housing and free food, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to what I am use to. I could get a free computer, with Linux, and OpenOffice, but it won't do everything I want it to do.

The price is set at what people are willing to pay. When OpenOffice becomes 50% of the market then Microsoft might come up with a new idea like a free version of Office for personal use only. However Most businesses will stick with Microsoft Office especially if they ever send or receive documents from other companies or if they use MS Exchange.

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