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Retailer GameStop will be unable to fulfill pre-orders

With all the rabid anticipation surrounding the PlayStation 3, it may sadden many of you to hear that Japan will not be the only territory that will face a cut in its launch numbers.

According to a GameSpot report, North American retailer GameStop (who also runs EB Games) has received a launch allocation that is less than its number of pre-orders.

On October 10, GameStop took PlayStation 3 pre-orders, which sold out nationwide within minutes. Most stores limited pre-orders to eight units, which was based on original Sony estimates on availability.

Now, it appears that many GameStop stores will be unable to honor its "launch day" pre-orders. A GameStop representative confirmed this news, but had no idea as to the extent of the supply shortfall.

"We are beginning to notify our customers that our initial shipment of PS3 systems will not be what we expected," the representative said. "As this is not an ideal situation, we are asking employees to wait to purchase systems until the second shipment. We are anticipating having systems to cover reservations before Christmas."

Customers with PS3 pre-orders from GameStop can expect to be contacted by phone shortly to confirm the status of their reservation. Those who will be left out of the initial round on launch day will be given a consolation item of a free used game or DVD of choice valued at $19.99 or less.

This development will have a ripple effect on those who have sold their pre-orders on eBay with the condition that the item will ship on launch day. Many eBay bidders will be very unhappy to learn that the thousands of dollars they spent on a launch-day PS3 will be facing delays.

Update: Analyst Colin Sebastian expects less PS3's on launch day than originally announced by Sony. He says:

"We expect Sony to deliver 150-200k units to stores in the United States for the launch; consumers without pre-orders may find it difficult to locate an available system. We estimate sales of approximately 750k PS3s domestically by year-end. We expect a more robust launch from Nintendo, with at least 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. and up to four million units shipped worldwide by year-end."

Read more in this Gamasutra story.


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Who cares!
By AssMonkey76 on 11/14/2006 9:08:42 AM , Rating: 1
PS3 and Xbox 360 are already obselete! Dont even waist your money. Save up and buy windows vista with DirectX 10 and purchase a new over priced dx10 video card with it. You will truly see next generation gaming!!! Crysis is almost here. That game will make those 2 consoles look like a gameboy.




RE: Who cares!
By UserDoesNotExist on 11/14/2006 9:15:16 AM , Rating: 2
Probably shouldn't be feeding the troll, but...

If this picture is in-game, he might be right.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/08/what_direct...


RE: Who cares!
By randomname on 11/14/2006 10:59:08 AM , Rating: 2
Because Xbox 360 and PS3 will have more users, they will also get more games designed specifically for them. Even more so in games that really stress the hardware. The best looking game on any system currently is probably Gears of War (at least in my opinion), and to get something better looking (not just in resolution, filtering, or AA) on the PC, you will have to wait for Crysis. And Crysis will probably remain the most demanding game for some time. Do you want to buy a new system only for Crysis? After a year (or two), when there are more games demanding that power, you could get the same setup much cheaper.

See:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_conte...

The first million unit seller on the PC (in the US) is at position 7, on the consoles at position 57.


RE: Who cares!
By akugami on 11/14/2006 3:44:59 PM , Rating: 2
I disagree. This round of the console wars seem much more in dispute than the last round. I'm of the opinion that the Wii may get the most unique games designed specifically for it while the Xbox 360 and PS3 being more traditional consoles will get the more cookie cutter games.


RE: Who cares!
By michal1980 on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares!
By retrospooty on 11/14/2006 9:48:32 AM , Rating: 2
Your pricing in bunk... The only one that is correct is the 8800GTS.


RE: Who cares!
By michal1980 on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares!
By retrospooty on 11/14/2006 6:26:32 PM , Rating: 4
I just meant that there is no need for a $1000 C2d e6800, even with a Geforce 8800GTX (which is also overkill). You can get the e6600 c2d for $300, also no need for Blue Ray. The 8800GTX is just the first high end card, many more mid and low end cards to come from ATI and Nvidia at decent prices.

Just knock off the $700 CPU and the $700 Blue Ray drive and thats alot of cash. The rest are ok, a bit high, but not out of the realm of a non-experienced shopper.


RE: Who cares!
By MrDiSante on 11/14/2006 6:54:34 PM , Rating: 3
Oh dear, that price is still overly high. I got a system with that configuration (e6600, not e6800) minus the video card and plus a 21" LCD for $1000 + tax. I can assure you that once I get a nice R600, my computer will be able to chew up any console and spit it out. That makes for a $1200 computer with a monitor (no need to get highest end video card, virtually anything out of the DX10 series can destroy anything in the consoles) vs a 600$ console that can only play games and do nothing else (realistically, the 360 isn't supposed to run anything else and the Cell is complete bunk for anything remotely resembling general purpose). Gee... lemme think on that one.


RE: Who cares!
By michal1980 on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
RE: Who cares!
By retrospooty on 11/14/2006 10:05:36 PM , Rating: 3
CPU bound just means that its so damn fast that it can even be faster with a faster CPU (unlike the 7900GTX and ATI 1950xt's that dont benefit from it)... It does not require you buy the fastest consumer CPU on the planet at a heavy price premium.


RE: Who cares!
By AssMonkey76 on 11/14/2006 9:50:29 AM , Rating: 2
I didnt say it would be cheap...Id bring that figure down to about 2K...we dont nee blue ray...games wont take advantage of that, for the PC anyways, for a long time to never. Id also drop the price for the 8800 GTX as I wouldnt get it until dx10 and crysis was release...no need for it until then.


RE: Who cares!
By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:56:23 AM , Rating: 2
If you want to LISTEN to bluray movies, then a PS3 will be a whole lot better media centre than your future "EIGHT CORES 9900GTX" monster with 6 noisy fans ;-)

I'd like one of those, but not next to my television (looking forward to Crysis though). In fps gaming the fan noise tends to be drowned out by the machine gun and laser cannons. When listening to classical music or quieter passages in a feature length movie, excessive fan noise is objectionable and detracts from the experience. So there are two different markets.

PS3 is reportedly quieter than x360 too.


RE: Who cares!
By Spivonious on 11/14/2006 4:11:13 PM , Rating: 2
If I put a 160mm fan in my PC it would be just as quiet as the PS3. And if I really wanted to, I could run my Core 2 Duo quite safely with just a heatsink.


RE: Who cares!
By Chaser on 11/14/2006 2:05:03 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad I don't have a 51 inch LCD Widescreen for my PC.


That sucketh
By shantiwuvstevin on 11/14/2006 8:09:45 AM , Rating: 1
Sure am glad I don't want one. IMO SLI is the way to fly for gaming and anything that an SLI rig can't give you the Wii will deliver as far as gameplay goes. I'm a hardcore FPS PC gamer and for the past 2 years I've been tempted to go console because of the hype, but I have to keep reminding myself that nothing compares to the responsiveness of my G7 laser mouse (I mean how can you really be good with an analog stick?). The Wii has me mildly excited because of the new hands-on gaming approach. The PS3 is just another XBOX 360 just one year too late. Sure the PS3 has its esclusive games but both consoles can do Unreal Engine 3 so whats the difference?




RE: That sucketh
By Quiksel on 11/14/2006 8:32:29 AM , Rating: 2
look, just because you're uber l33t with your SLI rig, etc., doesn't mean that 360 and PS3 can't make gamers happy. The difference between your rig and these consoles is price, convenience, form factor, future-proof (in that software bought in 5 years will still run on it), etc.

quote:
I'm a hardcore FPS PC gamer

As has been discussed countless times before this thread, you're not the target market. No need to crap on this thread just because it's a product you're never going to buy because you're a "hardcore FPS PC gamer". I'm not hatin' on your style, no need to hate on mine.


RE: That sucketh
By shantiwuvstevin on 11/14/2006 8:52:36 AM , Rating: 2
I don't hate your stlye. My roots are deeply embedded in the console market. I would still be a cosole fan today if it wasn't for the analog controllers. I have double-jointed thumbs whcih means there is nothing keeping my thumb from moving backwards at the top joint, so analog sticks hurt after about 10 minutes. The N64 shot my console horse. If the PS3 and 360 had a keyboard and mouse option I'd buy one. Till then...


RE: That sucketh
By One43637 on 11/14/2006 1:09:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

by shantiwuvstevin on November 14, 2006 at 8:52 AM

I don't hate your stlye. My roots are deeply embedded in the console market. I would still be a cosole fan today if it wasn't for the analog controllers. I have double-jointed thumbs whcih means there is nothing keeping my thumb from moving backwards at the top joint, so analog sticks hurt after about 10 minutes. The N64 shot my console horse. If the PS3 and 360 had a keyboard and mouse option I'd buy one. Till then...


i share similar sentiments to you. i'm not a big console shooter fan, since i think the controller can't compete with a mouse or keyboard in that respect, but i do own consoles because i love my sports games.

i'm exploring the posibility of using a bluetooth keyboard with my PS3 and wireless mouse. since it has USB ports, i might as well use and experiment to see if i can play console shooters with them.


Im Getting one
By Novaoblivion on 11/14/2006 10:21:12 AM , Rating: 1
My EB called me last night, it seems they are getting six in and I was within the first 6 people to preorder so I get one :D.




RE: Im Getting one
By knowyourenemy on 11/14/2006 10:31:06 AM , Rating: 2
Congrats! Don't flaunt it, now. That would be in poor taste. :)


RE: Im Getting one
By Novaoblivion on 11/14/2006 10:51:34 AM , Rating: 2
I didnt mean too I am just excited :)


RE: Im Getting one
By Milliamp on 11/15/2006 7:15:34 AM , Rating: 2
Considering what it would fetch on eBay I don't think I would even open the box.

You could sell the console alone for enough money to buy a new DX10 PC, and a PS3+games later on.


I Feel Bad for Gamestop
By UserDoesNotExist on 11/14/2006 9:11:24 AM , Rating: 2
When I was looking to reserve my Wii at Gamestop, the manager and I got into a talk, and he told me that the reason that corporate was taking so long to take reservations was that they were scared stupid of a repeat of the 360 debacle, and so they wanted to wait until Nintendo would tell them exactly how many units each store in the U.S. was getting.

Never thought I'd say this, but I actually feel bad for Gamestop. What Sony is doing here is incredibly unwise. Gamestop corporate is probably pulling out their hair right now. The 360 fiasco was a terrible PR blunder, and Gamestop was trying desperately not to repeat it. Making your retailers angry is not a smart move, especially retailers that have very limited shelf space and a large share of your target consumer. Something tells me that there's going to be more Wii and 360 banners put up in Gamestops across the nation.

This doesn't affect me any though. Sony apparently thinks that Fargo, North Dakota is somewhere in Europe, so they're delaying PS3 shipments here to any retail store until March 2007.




RE: I Feel Bad for Gamestop
By xsilver on 11/14/2006 9:33:48 AM , Rating: 1
I think the real people you should be feeling sorry for are the rich/desperate sobs that live in europe/australasia that wont be able to get the system either till march 07.
they will be forced to buy the system on ebay for $$$
either that or they had their own personal hobo waiting in line in japan at launch :P

poor rich people -- poor poor rich people ;)


RE: I Feel Bad for Gamestop
By threepac3 on 11/14/2006 9:37:27 AM , Rating: 3
Well there are a couple of things that can be said... Sony allocated about 400k consoles for US/Canada launch. We also know that Gamestop/EB cannot meet its Pre-order goals. They based there pre-order allocation of that 400k goal.

The thing is here that with the information provided to the public it cannot be said that this the fault of Sony. Its most likely Gamestops fault for predicting they could meet that goal--what ever it maybe.


For all you who felt mislead: come camp with me.
By Marcus Yam on 11/14/2006 11:17:29 PM , Rating: 4
I understand how some of you are quite sensitive to any negativity surrounding the PS3, so I apologize if you were mislead by this morning's headline.

To be clear, it read "PS3 U.S. Launch Numbers Cut," which could lead some of you to feel that it was indication from SCEA. If you read the article summary, then it should have cleared up the issue, but article summaries are not displayed for all our news items on the front page.

The headline has been changed to address the confusion and to add a bit more depth into the story with the analyst's estimates.

If any of you feel that we have any biases against PlayStation 3, then you are certainly in error. We're big supporters of new technology of all sorts, and we report on everything of interest. Sony's been in the spotlight recently, and has been facing several challenges. We would be doing our readers a disservice if we chose not to call them as we see them.

If you still disagree with me on any of this, I invite you to discuss this with me personally either late this Thursday night or very early Friday morning at a PlayStation 3 lineup/campout. Location will be announced shortly.




By peternelson on 11/18/2006 9:32:04 AM , Rating: 2
Thankyou, excellent response.

The revised title is much better.

We know you aren't intentionally biased.

In fact now that more information has materialised, it appears the total actually will be cut - not just based on EB allocation, not just from analysts but officially from Sony.

Now the question is what we will see as the actual final totals for this launch from sales reports.

I'd imagine this makes the ps3 rarer than it was going to be, and will probably drive up ebay prices in the short term.




Ebay
By Frank M on 11/14/2006 8:42:39 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure that there will be some very unhappy Ebay shoppers who paid 2K for a PS3 because they wanted to be the first ones to own it.




RE: Ebay
By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:44:24 AM , Rating: 3
Actually, they will realise how stupid they are for paying $2000 for a "preorder slip" worthless piece of paper.

There's one born every minute ;-)

IF ACTUAL consoles appear on ebay by all means bid on them, but not without knowing it's real and will be yours when you pay.



I like this...
By retrospooty on 11/14/2006 9:51:50 AM , Rating: 2
I personally feel that any douchebag that paid 1000-1500 dollars for a pre-ordered PS3 deserves to have to wait. ROTFLMAO at all of them.

They should take all these losers and bunch them in with the losers that were camping out in front of Best Buy and put them on an island somewhere where they can't use any technology. The winner is the last one to have a nervous breakdown.

Hey, thats a great reality show right there. Welcome to doofus island... indeed.




RE: I like this...
By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:58:28 AM , Rating: 2
Camping is my middle name ;-)

I'd go early and wait but I wouldn't pay more than retail for something like this.


I just can't imagine why you'd pay thousands...
By tobrien on 11/14/2006 10:06:01 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe somebody can enlighten me, but why on Earth would somebody want to pay thousands for a game console? I don't know how much they will retail for normally in say a year from now but paying thousands is absurd.

I'd imagine your console gaming experience is more affected by what display and/or sound setup you have. Why not spend those thousands on a nice high def display?

Although I will say the times that you should pay thousands is if shipments are EXTREMELY low and you're purchasing the console for a child through the Make A Wish Foundation because that child is dealing with a very serious, life threatening illness. I can also imagine that some of them are dads that just want to maybe see their kid smile and be happy, but the thing is consoles don't make you truly happy, after all you're just vegging out in front of a TV instead of doing something outside.

Just seems like a waste to spend so much if you just have to have something before everyone else. Donate the thousands to an animal shelter or animal rescue organization and make a difference in the life of some animals.

just my two cents.




By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:40:12 AM , Rating: 2
Some consoles have a novel concept of multiple controllers that is rarer on a PC game.

This enables you to socialise and cooperate with your friends and enjoy the experience together.

I think the crazy ebay prices are driven by:

a) the resale market speculation ie I think I can get even more for it (until the bubble bursts)

b) Xmas presents holiday time. You kid really wants a PS3 for Christmas like his friends SAY they will have. What parent cannot fail to spend thousands of dollars to stop their kid crying on Christmas day? (Well actually I wouldn't pay that if I had kids).

Given that there will be more shipments before Xmas makes this a little silly.

Anyway since here in Europe launch won't be until March, I suspect there will be less of this because of the lack of the Xmas effect.

The other option would be importing, but I don't think I'd do that because

a) Sony frowns on it
b) second hand goods
c) not easy to return to store if it develops a fault
d) possible regional restrictions on playing noneuro discs (including backwards gen PS2 titles)
e) possible restrictions on power supply and composite video standard being unapproved or wrong for our territory.

For similar reasons I wouldn't import a PSP either.

On the other hand we europeans pay the highest prices in the world for playstation stuff, so we probably deserve to be front of the allocations.

I don't think people's claims that the US pricing is overpriced are correct. Clearly many many people are willing to pay much more than that.

And Sony can always reduce prices later. If they launched cheap and then tried to raise prices there would be mass outcry so they are better to price it where they have and keep options open.


Truth be told.
By radzer0 on 11/14/2006 12:34:17 PM , Rating: 2
Sony figured out that they lost about 50,000 sales to 360 because of the shortage in japan. There just keeping them there. Thats sonys way and it always has been. Just like up untill this launch hasnt nintendo done the same?




Gamestop shares some of the blame
By Milliamp on 11/15/2006 7:07:11 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder how official the first set of numbers gamestop had were.

They should have been more careful by not selling exactly the same number of pre-orders as they though they could get.

The same thing happened to them with the Xbox 360.

People who got screwed get a used game that probably cost them less than $5 when instead they should let them buy the console for cost when they finally do get it in like February.

I am a little bummed out about it becasue the shortage means I might have more competition trying to get a Wii before Christmas :(

Now that PS3's will be $5,000 instead of $3,000 on eBay I suspect the $400 360 and $250 wii are going to start looking alot better to some people.




By MrSmurf on 11/14/2006 8:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
You misspelled "you're", lol.


By TheBaker on 11/14/2006 9:36:01 AM , Rating: 4
He was responding to the guy who said "your dumb." That is in fact incorrect. Correct usage would be more like this:

Your well-researched post about grammar is completely asinine because you're incapable of reading a simple thread.

See how that works?


By Legionosh on 11/14/2006 9:37:36 AM , Rating: 1
Actually YES he did. YOU'RE is a shorted version of YOU ARE. YOUR basically shows possession...for example : Is this YOUR coat? (the definition(s) which ironically you yourself posted, yet you still don't seemingly understand it)

So it IS INCORRECT to say "YOUR DUMB", since the poster WAS implying that the person he was posting about was less than intelligent. He was not referring to anything in or of that persons possession.

He was saying "YOU ARE DUMB". which shortens to "YOU'RE DUMB"..not "YOUR DUMB".

While my grammar skills may not be the best, I do know what I said is correct, regardless of what ever definition you can muster up from Google.

Apparently you either can't A) read the definition you yourself posted or B) simply can't understand it. It's not up to me to say which category you fall under. But I'd guess it's the latter.

Oh, and feel free to e-mail if you like. Somehow I have a feeling you won't let this go. legionosh@msn.com

Kevin


By Lonyo on 11/14/2006 1:21:59 PM , Rating: 5
(p.s. it's irk)


By peternelson on 11/14/2006 9:58:15 AM , Rating: 3
I FULLY agree with michal1980.

"What the hell is up with the title? Sony Cuts US Launch Numbers?!! The story is EBGames is unable to fill pre-orders...."

Exactly what I thought. There is no information whatsoever that the 400,000 Sony plan for US launch is changed in any way.

Japan was cut from 100K to 80K but then the actual numbers shipped were 88.4K. It's therefore dangerous to speculate.

The fact EB took orders for more consoles than they will actually get has nothing to do with total Sony will ship but about THEIR ALLOCATION out of that total.

"Eight per store" is a stupid policy anyway as their stores vary in size and location.

However, back to michal's post, THE TITLE IS MISLEADING please change it to "E-B over assumes their PS3 allocation".

As for them asking the employees not to buy, I don't see that being very successful. Many of them likely took advantage of being first in the cue and probably already sold their new console on ebay already ;-) If EB are serious they should enforce it rather than ask, but I don't think there are any legal grounds on which to do so.





By peternelson on 11/14/2006 4:28:24 PM , Rating: 2
"the people who write it live, breathe, and usually work in the industry."

Some of us readers actually do too ;-)

Anyway I agree that it is possible (but unproven) that Sony reduced the allocation to EB, and even if it did, that would not mean necessarily that other stores also get less or the totals are going to be less. Indeed my view is supported by the fact that no other retailers are yet crying about reduced allocation in stories like this. If all retailers were complaining of reduced allocation it would be reasonable to assume a vast reduction in total shipment, but I don't see that.

More likely, their loss (if there even was one and not pure EB miscalculation or wishful thinking) is more likely Walmart's gain (they claim to have AT LEAST 10 consoles per store), or maybe other retailers. Who knows how Sony will attempt to "fairly" distribute allocation?

My point is one retailer getting less in no way equates to a lower total, if anything "provokes speculation as to total."

The OP made a valid comment on the title, but did so insensitively which is why he was flamed and downrated for it.


By Arkham1 on 11/14/2006 5:27:15 PM , Rating: 1
We're all correct, except that I was also wrong. ;) I didn't read the name on the "replace..." post, and thought some American was confused over the word "queue".

Indeed, I was the only idiot involved. Move along, nothing to see here. ;)



By zombiexl on 11/14/2006 8:24:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what to believe....

6 (might be 8) circuit city stores have 100 consoles each for a midnight launch and then at 8am the rest of the circuit city stores open for walk-ins. Makes me wonder if there will be more than one at each store.

Walmart is advertizing 5 consoles per store. I don't know how many walmart's there are, but i see them like every exit or 2 on most highways.

Maybe Sony overcomitted to Gamestop, or maybe Gamestop over estimated their allocation. Either way to the consumer it looks like a shortage.


By xsilver on 11/14/2006 8:50:28 AM , Rating: 3
while you may be right it is hard to gain any credibility when you have froth spewing from your mouth and shouting like a crazy cat lady...

speaking in a calm collected manner would probably win you more friends.

On this issue, I would tend to think that the accountants at gamestop probably couldnt count the actual number that they had been allocated by sony and oversold on their preorders.


By zombiexl on 11/14/2006 9:08:24 AM , Rating: 2
Gamespot is reporting that Toys R Us's pre-orders will be met. I guess it was gamestop screwing up again.


By One43637 on 11/14/2006 12:55:49 PM , Rating: 2
i'm on good terms with a manager at a EB, and when i asked if they had any more trade-in deals going towards the PS3 last night he asked if i got a phone call regarding my reservation at the store i Pre-ordered. that's when i found out that launch numbers were cut and the unfortunate ones would be contacted to let them know they would not be receiving one this weekend.

so i was informed that barring any issues that cropped up with shipping, a la Gears of War, i should be able to pick it up this weekend. as it stands, i'm not sure how assured i am by that, but i guess it's only 3 more days away.

still it makes me wonder if they knew this was going to happen when they stapled that little disclaimer to your pre-order receipt.

and i guess this will be an example to people not to buy a pre-order receipt on E-Bay if they want a high demand item on launch day.


By DarkPrime on 11/14/2006 8:48:42 AM , Rating: 2
It may be fair to speculate that there are reduced numbers shipping in the US, but that's all it is. Just because someone is getting less than they expected means THEY will have a shortage, not that there is a shortage on the whole.

Remember too that various news sites reported PS3 sold 88,000 units in Japan this past weekend when Sony said they were only getting 80,000. Maybe the shortage isn't as bad as people think.


By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:14:44 AM , Rating: 2
More precisely, around 88400 in the first 2 days.

I agree with your point though. We won't know how many Sony ship until Sony ships them.

It will be Sony's decision how they are shared out, which shipments are delayed etc.

Here in the UK, Game has quite a good reputation for fulfilling console pre-orders, compared to some others. I don't know the US market, but it sounds like EB is the equivalent of some of those others who oversell then fail to deliver.

I don't really care, but like Michel I do care that titles reflect the true content of the story.

If Sony MIGHT ship less than 400K, THAT is the story, not that you KNOW Sony are going to ship less based on mistakes or surmising of EB. If you just discovered you will disappoint your customers, it's a whole lot easier to pass the buck and blame Sony than to hold your hands up.


By Arkham1 on 11/14/2006 12:30:58 PM , Rating: 2
Has anyone else noticed that they actually exceeded their revised 80K target number? Interesting.


By wuZheng on 11/14/2006 8:52:46 AM , Rating: 2
I dunno man, the article title looks pretty clear to me, "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut." I don't see the word "Sony" in there, do you? And even if there was, if there was a shortage of PS3s allocated to GameStop/EBGames, that they expected but won't be getting, logic can derive who to blame for that, obviously the maker of the product, Sony... so yea, don't go mouthing off and calling editors who are much more competent than you in these matters, "fanbois" DailyTech delivers the news quite well, its just that some people refuse to accept it as such. Moron.


By peternelson on 11/14/2006 10:22:32 AM , Rating: 5
Since there is great interest in the total shipped and announcements of 400K, the reader naturally assumes from "playstation US numbers cut" that the story relates to the total, being implied as no further detail qualifies it.

Dailytech are not fanbois. Michel asked the rhetorichal question because the behaviour might make it appear that way.

"EB's reduced PS3 allocation cuts raise speculation about UA launch total" would have conveyed the story content better. The point of a title, synopsis, precis or abstract is that you can get the gist of the story without needing to read it first.

I have to admit the title gave me the wrong impression, and it was only when I read the story I discovered there was no evidence relating to any change in total shipments.

As a news provider, Dailytech could improve by making titles reflect the story content, that's all we're saying.


By bplewis24 on 11/14/2006 12:38:05 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I dunno man, the article title looks pretty clear to me, "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut." I don't see the word "Sony" in there, do you? And even if there was, if there was a shortage of PS3s allocated to GameStop/EBGames, that they expected but won't be getting, logic can derive who to blame for that, obviously the maker of the product, Sony


Actually, you come off as pretty illogical yourself. "Playstation U.S. Numbers Cut" specifically implies that the numbers available to the U.S. were cut or not able to be met. The first post is precisely correct: the headline is entirely misleading. EB Games/Gamestop can't fill their pre-orders. That's all we know at this point until further information is leaked.

That, however, is not the same as saying Sony has a shortage. For all we know those excess units were allocated to other stores. There is also a rumor that the shipments were scaled back to supply more units to Japan, however unlikely--prima facie--that sounds. Back on point, your assumption that there is a shortage to EB Games/Gamestop and that it's based on Sony's inability to produce the target 400,000 units is just that...an assumption. An assumption that could be true, but an assumption nonetheless. Therefore, the original poster is entirely justified in his rant (even if he does come off a bit hysterical about it).

The bottom line is, logic does NOT dictate that Sony cut the shipments. It dictates that there are only a few possibilities, and that Sony being unable to make their shipments is ONE of them. But the fact that they were able to produce more than the anticipated 80,000 units for Japan brings that into question. We just have to wait til this weekend to find out the truth.

Brandon


By peternelson on 11/14/2006 4:47:15 PM , Rating: 2
Brandon if that is genuine then it is a big story.

All I get is "Database error:
The database has encountered a problem." so maybe the server is suffering the slash-dot effect.

If NA only gets 200-300K instead of 400K, there will be many more disappointed than 9000 at EB.

That's what I would call a real news story and would justify the original title!

Hey, maybe they had a change of heart and decided to send us Europeans some 100,000 PS3 for Xmas (joke).


By randomname on 11/14/2006 5:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
Well, here you have the information you need:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_conte...

"Analyst: 150K-200K PS3s For U.S. Launch"


YES!
By Pitbulll0669 on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
SEE IT-its BETTER
By crystal clear on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
RE: SEE IT-its BETTER
By crystal clear on 11/14/06, Rating: -1
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