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IsoHunt administrators claim AMD couldn't wait to give the P2P website new processors for its servers

Bizarre.  That's the only word I could use to describe the unfolding AMD-IsoHunt story. 

Earlier this month, one of IsoHunt's administrators posted the following post in its forum section:
I'd like to thank the nice people at AMD for allowing us to have 2 pre-production engineering samples of their Opteron 2352 CPUs. These cpus have been installed in our primary database server (as of this afternoon) and we'll definitely be following up in the near future with our impressions of these particular cpus. (Although I'll admit that we ran all of our web traffic for about 20 minutes earlier today on those cpus without any issue, so they're certainly powerhouses).
IsoHunt, for those not familiar, is a BitTorrent aggregator similar in spirit to The Pirate Bay.  The MPAA launched a lawsuit against IsoHunt in February 2006; the website then relocated to Canada to escape a DMCA takedown notification.   Even more legal pressure forced the site to block its all U.S. IP addresses from its tracker.

So why would AMD choose to back a pro-piracy torrent tracker? We could ask former Inquirer, current Tom's Hardware blogger Theo Valich, who joined the Facebook group on the same day as the post. administrators would not reply to our posts as to why they were given the new processors. 

What IsoHunt would confirm is that the new processors sent to them include some of the first production B2-stepping Opteron 2352 Barcelona processors.

These processors to not fix the widely-reported TLB race condition.  The fix for this race condition crippled production Phenom and Barcelona processors under certain tests, though most real-world scenarios are unaffected by the bug. 

AMD guidance states that the new B3 silicon processors are tracking to ship to OEMs at the end of Q1; system builders will start receiving the chips near the beginning of Q2.  The company has no plans to release anymore B2 processors.

AMD corporate sent DailyTech the official comment regarding IsoHunt.  "We can state that whatever it is that claims it has (B3 Barcelona silicon), that it was not sent from AMD." is currently firewalled from AMD's corporate network. It's listed as an P2P file sharing website. 

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By Polynikes on 2/6/2008 1:30:21 PM , Rating: 2
I can still access Isohunt from the US.

RE: Funny...
By Ray 69 on 2/6/2008 6:11:46 PM , Rating: 2
This was taken from isohunt's web site about US IPs being blocked...

"As of earlier today, we have disabled access from users in the US to our trackers, until further notice. This goes for ALL trackers (torrentbox, podtropolis) we run. This is due to the US's hostility towards P2P technologies, and we feel with our current lawsuit brought by the MPAA, we can no longer ensure your security and privacy in the US. So, if you're outside the US, you may notice less peers. We encourage you to add other public, unhampered trackers to torrents you post, in addition to Torrentbox and Podtropolis's trackers.


Apparently some P2P news sites are falsely reporting that we are blocking US visitors from using the isoHunt website itself. Let me say this is NOT the case. As reported above we are blocking US visitors ONLY to the BitTorrent TRACKERS we run. This will NOT affect torrents obtained from isoHunt unless these torrents only use said trackers that are isoHunt operated

RE: Funny...
By James Holden on 2/6/2008 6:31:23 PM , Rating: 1
Why would they filter their tracker? I thought they were a 100% legitimate website that does not condone piracy?

RE: Funny...
By Ray 69 on 2/6/2008 6:51:28 PM , Rating: 2
Good question, too bad I don't have an accurate answer for it. I suppose it has to do with liability issues, not that it would stop the MPAA or the RIAA anyway.

RE: Funny...
By spluurfg on 2/8/2008 8:28:27 AM , Rating: 2
The MPAA might, through whatever legally wrangling they can afford, obtain the identities of anybody who uses the ISOhunt trackers. Then, even if they don't win against ISOhunt in court, they can track down and sue people who don't have the time or money to do anything but settle in court.

RE: Funny...
By James Holden on 2/8/2008 8:56:43 AM , Rating: 1
And you think the MPAA, with its resources, couldn't get a computer in Canada to do this? Quit being so naive.

RE: Funny...
By spluurfg on 2/8/2008 3:51:30 PM , Rating: 3
And you think the MPAA, with its resources, couldn't get a computer in Canada to do this? Quit being so naive.

If they successfully sued for the records, they could conceivably use it in court. I'm not sure if I could say the same for your plan.

RE: Funny...
By Rockjock51 on 2/6/2008 6:12:54 PM , Rating: 2
The block is on their tracker only. Since most of their torrents use TPB's tracker anyway, it doesn't really mean anything.

Make sense to me
By DEredita on 2/6/2008 2:01:49 PM , Rating: 5
Good way to stress test the new processor. Have it run on very demanding servers, which if they go down, you will not feel bad about because they are illegal servers. If they stay up and running, then you have a good processor.
If they were being test run on mission critical servers, which cost millions if they go down - that would be a nightmare. Looks like both sides benefited from this.

RE: Make sense to me
By DarkElfa on 2/6/2008 2:15:59 PM , Rating: 2
It's painfully obvious that AMD did indeed give these guys new procs and simply didn't know that the servers were Trackers.

RE: Make sense to me
By InternetGeek on 2/6/2008 7:00:35 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think AMD didn't know. I think trackers are a environment on which the racing condition can express itself more often. AMD might have a hard time simulating such a environment even though a common cause is known (virtual environments).

RE: Make sense to me
By bfellow on 2/8/2008 9:57:44 AM , Rating: 2
They're using B2's with TLB bug workaround in place so there wouldn't be any "testing"

RE: Make sense to me
By KristopherKubicki on 2/8/2008 1:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
Their webmaster now claims its a pre-production B2 stepping processor -- AMD removed this from their roadmap a while ago. They also claimed they would not release any more processors with the TLB bug.

So I'm guessing someone passed them a sample intended for media. Either way, AMD still denies sending them anything.

Traffic Testing
By Master Kenobi on 2/6/2008 12:51:41 PM , Rating: 5
Well given the amount of traffic Isohunt likely handles. This could be a good way to "stress test" their processors :P

RE: Traffic Testing
By Clauzii on 2/6/2008 1:34:18 PM , Rating: 2
That was xactly my thinking.


RE: Traffic Testing
By othercents on 2/6/2008 4:32:17 PM , Rating: 2
They are testing their new tracking mechanism that tracks illegal activity and uploads it to RIAA. There isn't a better place to test that then


By spazmedia on 2/6/2008 12:57:11 PM , Rating: 2
...then relocated to Cananda (sic)

is Canada that hard to spell?

RE: typo
By oopyseohs on 2/6/2008 1:16:11 PM , Rating: 4

By HaZaRd2K6 on 2/6/2008 12:28:54 PM , Rating: 1
What's the point of saying that if you're not going to prove it? Look, I can do it too:

Also, AMD is sponsoring a Russian website that shares mp3s. I won't name the website.

By noirsoft on 2/6/2008 12:53:03 PM , Rating: 4
AMD is sponsoring a website featuring pornographic pictures of your mother. I won't name it, however.

By Spyke on 2/6/2008 2:15:28 PM , Rating: 5
Talk about a lot of misinformation in this article, but lets all remember that the RIAA/BSA/MPAA/IFPI/MAFFIA/etc relies upon massive misinformation campaigns to get what they want.

Lets start off with some facts:

isoHunt did NOT relocate to "escape a DMCA takedown notification".

The site was being relocated to Canada long before news that the US ISP even pulled the plug, that disconnection sped the relocation effort up obviously.

isoHunt did and still DOES comply with DMCA takedown notifications and will remove *anything* thats requested as per the DMCA policy found on the site.

isoHunt does NOT block US visitors from the website. The website has nothing to do with the in-house trackers that are separately run by the same company.

isoHunt is not avoiding the law by relocating to Canada, paying for US lawyers to fight a US based case proves this, even though the site is out of US jurisdiction.

And finally, we wish the Barcelonas were B3 steppings, which they are not, they're just plain B2 stepping 2352's that are running with the bios microcode 'fix'. As nearly all of our hardware is based on AMD socket F, the quad core opterons are our upgrade path, which is why AMD sent the cpu's for us to test, as were commited to buy B3 quad cores upon release, and are for the most part an AMD only shop.

Companies tend to send samples if it means a potential future infra wide upgrade, AMD is no exception. You can go on and on and on, review samples get sent to review sites like this all the time.

Let's face it...
By tjr508 on 2/6/2008 11:59:38 AM , Rating: 3
Piracy is a major contributer to the sales of high end computing equipment.
Think how many of these B3s will be sold to people that are sick of waiting 2 hours to turn a divx movie into DVD format.

By VooDooAddict on 2/7/2008 7:23:42 PM , Rating: 2
I bet this has nothing to do with who they are ... simply they were a customer greatly impacted due to the TLB bug. Existing customers with TLB bug issues would be the first to receive new chips.

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