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Samsung's upcoming Series 7 LCD HDTV
Samsung LCD TVs to run simple programs such as Sudoku

Samsung introduced at CES 2008 its new line of Series 6 and Series 7 LCD high-definition televisions. Besides the usual features of a 1080p resolution, 120Hz refresh rates and 4ms response times, Samsung was proud to point out that its full line (LN40A650T, LN46A650T, LN52A650T, LN40A750T, LN46A750T, and LN52A750T) will feature a “Touch of Color” design that adds a hint of amber color naturally blended into Samsung's piano black bezel frame.

With all the excitement of a colored bezel, Samsung may have forgotten to mention in its press release that its upcoming high-end LCD HDTVs will come packed with video games. Several models will come with content preloaded into the set’s built-in flash memory, some of which will be games.

Tim Baxter, executive vice president of Samsung, told the AP that simple games such as Sudoku will be bundled with televisions. Other programs potentially preloaded on the TV include artwork (for use as a digital picture frame), screensavers, fitness programs and recipes.

"If you think about the TV experience, it has historically been a lean-back experience," Baxter said, contrasting it to the "lean forward" experience of the PC. "We think there are opportunities to bring very relevant parts of that experience into the living room."

Users will also be able to add new programs and artwork by transferring them from the PC to a flash drive, which can interface with the set’s USB slot.

Furthermore, the TV’s Ethernet port can also pave the way for more content options, including news, weather, sports and stocks information supplied by USA Today in a picture-in-picture window.

Samsung’s Series 6 LCD HDTVs will be available starting this March, with the Series 7 hitting in May.

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Starting step
By FITCamaro on 1/8/2008 10:48:40 AM , Rating: 5
Some day our TV and PC will be one device. It'd be sweet to have a TV that can, via network, access a video server. Eliminate the need for a media center PC altogether.

RE: Starting step
By Polynikes on 1/8/2008 1:54:57 PM , Rating: 2
That seems to be the way things are going. I dunno, though, when it comes to PC gaming I think I'd more enjoy playing at a desk instead of on a couch.

RE: Starting step
By FITCamaro on 1/8/2008 2:15:33 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn't saying your main PC. Just a PC in general. Mostly for multimedia use. A friend of mine though uses his Sony Bravia as his PC monitor. As do many people with their TVs.

RE: Starting step
By CascadingDarkness on 1/11/2008 12:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
Its great trust me. I'd suggest something more ergonomic friendly like office chair/keyboard tray with wireless mouse/keyboard.

Nothing beats playing PC games at true 1920X1080 on a 40" when I connect to my TV. When I first loaded it up I was playing COH and I just watched all my men die to Nazi horde I was so enthralled.

RE: Starting step
By djc208 on 1/8/2008 3:04:07 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about one device, I think TVs are going to become a subset of the monitor market, albeit a unique one. Fewer and fewer people actually use the tuner in their TVs, and the HD TVs even less. OTA digital is the last reason to keep a tuner around. Otherwise you watch through a cable or satelite box, from your DVD/HD player, a game system, or a HTPC/TiVo box.

I watch almost all my TV through my SageTV setup anymore, so essentially my 46" DLP TV is used 90% of the time through some input other than the tuner already.

Stuff like this is nice first step for those people who don't want to try and set up an HTPC. I can see media streamers and simple web browsers built in down the road to let you view your photos, stream MP3s to a connected stereo, or look up weather, traffic, and simple RSS feeds from your TV remote.

RE: Starting step
By FITCamaro on 1/8/2008 3:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
I can see media streamers and simple web browsers built in down the road to let you view your photos, stream MP3s to a connected stereo, or look up weather, traffic, and simple RSS feeds from your TV remote.

And what do you think will drive those things? PC hardware. That is what I meant by this.

RE: Starting step
By djc208 on 1/8/2008 5:15:11 PM , Rating: 2
Guess I kind of stopped after the one device thing. I kept picturing having to upgrade the CPU and memory in my HDTV, and then the TVs of all my family and friends. Not a pretty sight, but yes a media streaming system would be great.

Now if someone can figure out how to get video content onto that server legally I'd be happy.

RE: Starting step
By Mitch101 on 1/8/2008 4:40:51 PM , Rating: 2

Lumenlab's remarkable Q™ computer packs the power of a high-end computer and the beauty of a 42" 1080P flat screen into an impossibly thin 3" aluminum frame.

RE: Starting step
By FITCamaro on 1/9/2008 8:13:47 AM , Rating: 2
Sounds cool. Too bad it doesn't appear to be on sale yet. Honestly if that TV were available in a slightly larger size in a few years (I've got a 720p DLP television that is fine right now), I might pick one up.

RE: Starting step
By ivanwolf on 1/8/2008 7:13:40 PM , Rating: 2
Hopefully it will be able to stream media from a Windows Home Server without a separate device. That would be worth the extra cost of going with a Samsung for me

Intel has similar plans
By Lord Banshee on 1/8/2008 11:24:10 AM , Rating: 2
My future job depends on the success of this market so I hope it is accepted well.

Intel's Digital Home Group (DHG)is designing an embedded platform for TVs/cable boxes/satellite boxes which will start to intertwine the TV and the PC experience. They have a current model out now, but it is ARM base, CE2110, and they have not made it too public and it isn't very popular. The new model will be IA (x86) based which I believe is where they are start to really market the product.

RE: Intel has similar plans
By paulpod on 1/8/2008 2:48:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, all these great plans but I bet it still will not be able to play transport stream files I've previously recorded and have on a PC folder share.

The only industry standard part of digital TV is the one thing nobody supports. And devices that can do this, like TViX products, are completely ignored by the technical media in favor of pathetic products like AppleTV and Slingbox.

By Screwballl on 1/8/2008 11:29:20 AM , Rating: 4
Give me my classic games... those are so small it would be easy to bundle 50 of those games into a single chip in the TV...

LG Tube TV's
By FS on 1/8/2008 10:51:01 AM , Rating: 3
Even 10 years ago some of LG TV's(yea, the old tube tv's) had built in games. Though, the good thing about Samsung's is the Ethernet, flash and other extras.

Pong During Commecials?
By BMFPitt on 1/8/2008 12:19:44 PM , Rating: 2
Sign me up!

How's the gamut?
By proflogic on 1/8/2008 1:47:54 PM , Rating: 2
One question: are they using LED backlighting?

NO Way
By rupaniii on 1/8/08, Rating: -1
RE: NO Way
By slacker57 on 1/8/2008 2:50:05 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, she probably needs to get back in the kitchen and make you some bacon and iron your shirts, right? Lucky girl.

RE: NO Way
By lumbergeek on 1/8/2008 4:17:46 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. The thing that makes LCDs good for me is the matte finish on the screen. These new Sammy mirrors do NOT work for me. They should have 2 models - gloss and matte finish.

And SEROUSLY! CCFL Backlights? What happened to the local dimming LED backlights???

RE: NO Way
By fenderkb76 on 1/9/2008 12:00:05 AM , Rating: 2
All the current ones come in gloss or matte finish. My 4671F is gloss. It's matte counterpart is the 4669F. The gloss helps the set achieve a higher contrast ratio. I just wish they would announce a new miracle firmware that takes care of all stutter and TBE with AMP on instead of worrying about "adding value".

o rly?
By themadmilkman on 1/8/08, Rating: -1
RE: o rly?
By SirLucius on 1/8/2008 11:08:43 AM , Rating: 2
Can I ask why? It seems like a pretty novel idea to allow your TV to have more built in features than just letting you watch the news and sitcoms. With the way people are moving to more all-in-one devices, this seems like a pretty good idea.

RE: o rly?
By omnicronx on 1/8/2008 11:32:33 AM , Rating: 2
Toshiba xbox360 combo TV's!!! Coming to a store near you!!!

RE: o rly?
By themadmilkman on 1/8/2008 2:21:43 PM , Rating: 1
I just simply don't see it ever being used by the vast majority of consumers. A built-in fitness program? Yeah, that sounds exciting. Will these ever be updated? Or am I only going to have the same 30 minute workout from my TV for the lifespan of the TV? If it can be updated, do I need an internet connection? Wireless? Will it actually work?

I love the addition of new features. But I also like those features to make sense. To me, this one doesn't.

RE: o rly?
By bighairycamel on 1/8/2008 11:23:24 AM , Rating: 2
I think you've ready too much into this. It's simply a "feature", not the main selling point. Samusng TVs will continue to do well, the extra features are just a nifty little bonus.

RE: o rly?
By mcnabney on 1/8/2008 12:50:09 PM , Rating: 3
I would rather have $50 off.

RE: o rly?
By bighairycamel on 1/8/2008 1:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'ld hate to say the glass is half empty, but if they took away the extra features the odds of them consequently lowering the price are slim to none. They would silently remove the features then still sell it at the same price point.

RE: o rly?
By Polynikes on 1/8/2008 1:53:19 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously, I have dedicated machines that take care of the services provided by those extra features.

RE: o rly?
By slacker57 on 1/8/2008 2:53:37 PM , Rating: 2
Well, then you're not the target audience for a lot commercial electronics. Just take a look at cell phones. I have a dedicated mp3 player, but manufacturers are telling me that it's just not cool to carry around a phone and an mp3 player, I need to combine them into one.

RE: o rly?
By themadmilkman on 1/8/2008 4:42:37 PM , Rating: 2
There's a difference between filling a consumer demand, creating consumer demand through an innovative product that people want, and forcing consumer demand. I would say that the cell phone / MP3 combo is largely a case of forced consumer demand. Do people get combo phone/MP3 players because they want them, or because there isn't a choice? Same thing with camera phones. Do people REALLY want them?

Manufacturers will always tell you that you need something new, even where there is no consumer demand for the new product.

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