Pentagon confirmed a one-year delay of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
program, with Deputy Defense Secretary Bill Lynn facing increased
pressure to get spending under control on the project."The
development was originally projected to last an additional 30 months;
we think with the additional test aircraft it will be closer to a
delay of about 12 or 13 months, but I can't give you the cost
numbers," according to Lynn's statement to the media.Pentagon
officials didn't say if this one-year delay will push back final
release dates, but it likely will, military experts have noted. The
Marine Corps is expected to receive the first batch of F-35s in two
years, while the Air Force and Navy are expected to receive the
next-generation fighter aircraft in 2013 and 2014. Prior to
Lynn's recent announcement, Lockheed Martin officials noted they were
about six months behind schedule, but still expect to be able to meet
the USMC release date.Last November, a report said the
program is drastically
overbudget and behind schedule, which led the government to
rethink its strategy moving forward. Actual demand
for the aircraft remains unknown, but there have been at least
2,500 orders placed for the U.S. military branches, with several
other nations also expected
to receive the aircraft in years to come.Due to
costly delays and budget miscues, the DOD will also withhold $614
million that will eventually be paid to Lockheed Martin.
quote: Dogfights like that don't take place anymore. In the real world your Mig is shot down by over-the-horizon radar/weapon systems that the Americans have and you don't. You die without even seeing your opponent.
quote: The funny thing though, about the German 29's is they push their engines so hard to get the power output higher in them that they have to be overhauled very frequently.
quote: The Soviets had a profoundly different approach to maintenance than NATO. Basically, you'd carry out less small fixes, but send the engine back to the factory more often for a full refit. I am of the opinion that it was actually the better system, as in a proper (cold war gone hot) war environment, relatively untrained personnel could sling a broken engine out and a new one in, then send the broken one off to be fixed in the relative calm of the factory.
quote: How do you effectively crater hundreds of acres of fields as opposed to a 20 metre wide runway?
quote: I would simply set my cruise missiles to take out your single point of failure, aka your few factories
quote: Then send out evasive squadron groups to draw out your forces and retreat when they came into contact.
quote: Yes, it does cost more but any war of attrition would be won by the NATO group because they can service their own aircraft and keep them in the battle longer. You as the opposition are forced to take out every single squadron to gain air superiority
quote: I believe its called a B-52...
quote: The PAK-FA is fitted with unusually robust high sink rate undercarriage, intended for STOL operations.
quote: Therefore, from a technological strategy perspective, the PAK-FA renders all legacy US fighter aircraft, and the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter, strategically irrelevant and non-viable after the PAK-FA achieves IOC in 2015.
quote: You can't create a V/STOL F-22 (or PAK-FA); the F-35 has a V/STOL variant.
quote: You can't load the F-22 with a crapload of bombs - it's strictly air-superiority (with some in-board capacity); F-35 is meant to be a strike fighter (you know, the SF in JSF. . . :D )
quote: In combat, the F-22A is flown at almost twice the altitude and twice the speed of the F-35A.
quote: See how much better bang for the buck we can get out of the F-22
quote: Which Combat ??????.....under controlled simultated conditons maybe ? not convincing indeed-where everything/action/etc is predetermined.
quote: I would check up on the Indian SU-30MKi's and how they fared against the F-15s.
quote: Keep in mind that the JSF is only stealthy in the front, the rear, sides and bottom are not.
quote: Yes shoddy/poor workmanship ! Russian planes have in the past been severely criticized for many a long list of defects.To quote a few-From crack developing on the plane's body flying at high speeds to canopy opening up whilst flying at high speeds (instantly killing the pilot & loss of the plane),to engine failure whilst flying at high speeds (not at air shows or exibhitions) crashing the plane.
quote: The Navy fought for and won permission to develop an aircraft based on the YF-17. Since the LWF did not share the design requirements of the VFAX, the Navy asked McDonnell Douglas and Northrop to design a new aircraft around the configuration and design principles of the YF-17. The new aircraft, designated the F-18, shared not a single essential dimension or primary structure with the YF-17.
quote: Right now, I would give the manned fighter a shelf life of at most 15 years...
quote: Block 60 F-16s and/or F-15SEs... much, much cheaper.
quote: You are such an idiot if you believe this.That would be such a massive restructuring of our entire combined armed forces.
quote: Yup, I called it right. Even 15 years from now you are STILL pushing the use of 30 year old airframes.
quote: Why do you think I keep saying investing billions in manned fighters right now is a waste?
quote: 2. Why do you think the opposition give 2 sh!ts about how much restructuring your armed forces have to do? If your happy to put up sitting ducks for their lasers; that is not their problem!
quote: Do you know how old a block 60 is? Here is a clue, they were first built for the UAE and deliveries started in 2004. You can do the maths on the resultant airframe age if the USAF bought some....
quote: You are simply not clued up on this subject
quote: The F-22 has technologies that the US does not want in anybody else's hands. (US Govt has banned this plane from export). Its role is to totally dominate the air; so they need to keep that advantage from a technology perspective.
quote: In effect, the F-22 is like the Core i7 (Gulftown). While the F-35 is like the Core i5-6xx (Clarkdale).
quote: International customers like Japan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc didn't want a cut down variant of the F-22. They wanted the full thing like they received with the F-15. (This wasn't going to happen.)
quote: US Air Force chief of staff Gen Norton Schwartz has warned that cost-overruns on the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter are likely to breach a statutory cap that would force the Department of Defense to formally re-certify the programme to Congress and invite a fresh wave of scrutiny.
quote: too many other nations want to buy it.
quote: It's the same old story all over again so I'll just repost one of my previous posts: If you observe the government's habits long enough, you'll see these things. The F-22's production run was ended under the pretense that attention was going to be diverted to the JSF, and that we'd buy additional F-35's. Once the F-22 production line was closed down it was time to announce that F-35 production is going to be reduced as well, with funds ostensibly being used for some other project which in turn will be canceled. Doing this effectively butters defense contractor' palms without actually being used for much. In the end, foreign orders will probably be dramatically reduced and we'll get the "low cost" F-35 for about the same price as the "expensive" F-22. Government waste at its finest.