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Nothing significant has happened so far, but lawmakers are working with the private sector to see what can be done

The United States government has opened dialogue with Google, American tech companies, and ISPs that have had trouble operating in China.  

"We are still dialoguing not just with Google, but with other Internet providers, to make sure we fully understand what is happening in China," said U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kick in a statement during the National Press Club.

Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and other American companies – along with several European companies – must adhere to strict Chinese laws when operating within the country, and companies have been punished if they step out of line.

Both Republican Representative Chris Smith and Democratic Representative David Wu plan to host a reported bipartisan Global Internet Freedom Caucus that will help discuss the digital world.  For example, Wu is interested in freeing up grant money for computer programmers who are able to create methods for users in China and other nations to get around censored material.

Google was so angry when hackers stole information that it announced it would uncensor Chinese internet search results -- but the company currently is still censoring Chinese topics including Tibet, Fulung Gong, and other Chinese controversies.  Google doesn't have a firm date as to when censorship will end, but did say earlier in the month it will take place at some point.

The issue didn't seem like a major political issue until a probe indicated two universities in China may have been behind organized cyber attacks against Google.

If Google plans to uncensor its search engine in China, Microsoft said it doesn't plan to follow at the moment.  



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Hmm..
By ebakke on 3/10/2010 4:26:02 PM , Rating: 4
Why are my lawmakers trying to influence Chinese domestic policy instead of addressing our own domestic issues?




RE: Hmm..
By tastyratz on 3/10/2010 4:42:08 PM , Rating: 3
Because Chinese domestic internet policy is crap. Don't let them address anything on our own internet, every time they do they only screw it up more. At least with censorship in china the only way is up.


RE: Hmm..
By Hiawa23 on 3/10/2010 4:45:42 PM , Rating: 4
I am sorry but the U.S. needs to be worrying about the U.S. & it's many people who are suffering, many at no fault of their own, instead of tryin to impose our will on other countries. We can't tell China a thing, especially with all the $$$$ we have borrowed from them. Let's cleanup home before we try to impose our will on others for a change.


RE: Hmm..
By NA1NSXR on 3/10/2010 5:36:56 PM , Rating: 2
Have you learned nothing from the 20th century?


RE: Hmm..
By limitedaccess on 3/10/2010 5:38:46 PM , Rating: 2
You would think US lawmakers would be more concerned about the issues surrounding the secret closed door ACTA negotiations and warrantless search and seizures at borders.

But of course another country's domestic issues must take priority...


RE: Hmm..
By camylarde on 3/11/2010 6:50:16 AM , Rating: 2
Because, naturally it steals attention EXACTLY from ACTA this way. Bad chinese trying to opress nice google must certainly hit the headlines.

The bottom line is, that america can't do much more than bark a bit at the great wall and then back up. They can't do much more as they need China to take their products. And they want chine to not want their loans back. At least not yet.

The thing is, china with their tibet story, human rights violations and countless other misdeeds is getting away with it simply because of their economical power of today and tomorrow.

Same for Iran. World needs their oil. And so iran is allowed to bark and chew on their chain in their attempt to free loose. As long as the oil flows form there, everything is fine.


RE: Hmm..
By Uncle on 3/11/2010 2:11:40 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly, keep Americans focused on non issues around the world, while the government makes changes at home in secret to the detriment of the people. I mean you only have so much space in newspapers (filled with non issues)and time restraints on Fox during the News Hour.


RE: Hmm..
By Vagisil on 3/11/2010 1:12:08 AM , Rating: 1
I prefer China's policy of political non-interference to the 'your business is my business' approach.

It's shocking but due to this policy china is actually doing more significant work in Africa where and how its needed.

The USA comes into a troubled African country and tells them they need to change their government, make peace with their neighbour and then their poor will get help.

China comes along to the same country does its work and gets out, no questions asked.

I agree, Work on your own country/continent and your own flaws first (every country/continent has them) instead of attempting to influence others to your 'perfect' ideals.


RE: Hmm..
By Ammohunt on 3/15/2010 2:58:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree, Work on your own country/continent and your own flaws first (every country/continent has them) instead of attempting to influence others to your 'perfect' ideals.

"perfect ideals" Like Freedom and Liberty as God given rights?


Falun Gong
By TETRONG on 3/10/2010 3:28:25 PM , Rating: 2
Falun Gong is a style of Qigong.




RE: Falun Gong
By ClownPuncher on 3/10/2010 3:52:34 PM , Rating: 2
I have seen it spelled Falun Gong, Falun Dafa, but never Fulung Gong like in the article. Alternate spelling perhaps, or just a mistake?


RE: Falun Gong
By zyzeast on 3/10/2010 5:12:00 PM , Rating: 2
could be Cantonese instead of Mandarin!


RE: Falun Gong
By gtr32x on 3/10/2010 5:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
That's correct until it became a primarily political movement instead of a practice for body and mind.


RE: Falun Gong
By afkrotch on 3/10/2010 8:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
I thought it was a style of Drunken Tiger Broken Wing.


I think a lot of people are missing the point....
By ncage on 3/10/2010 6:56:58 PM , Rating: 2
I think a lot of you are missing the point. This is not really about censorship and whether China should/shouldn't censor the internet really. This is about China sponsorship of hacking of american based companies. Google lifting the censoring of search was results was only google proposed punishment of China for what it has done now apparently the media has grabbed hold of that like thats the issue. Believe it or not this is considered to by cyber warfare and thats the whole issue. Yes we have no buisness trying to dictate what Chinese citizens see for their search results but we do have a right to protect our own companies and to stop a a country from essential committing corporate espionage.
How would you feel if their next move was to inflatable the pentagon or other places that hold military secrets. This needs to be stopped now.




By camylarde on 3/11/2010 6:55:39 AM , Rating: 2
Did you mean infiltrate pentagon? i am sure they already are. Same as russia. And vice versa against any major country. eveyrbody is spying on everybody.


By ncage on 3/11/2010 6:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes sir!!! Don't know how i missed the typo...


By masamasa on 3/11/2010 11:04:51 AM , Rating: 2
You hit the nail on the head. The real world has no clue what is actually going on behind closed doors.


By The0ne on 3/11/2010 12:10:18 PM , Rating: 2
No hence we speculate and talk like we know it all in blogs and forums...hey, just like now! :D

I say more, but heading back to my job at Area51.


Some friendly advice...
By Drag0nFire on 3/10/2010 3:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nothing significant has happened so far


If your subtitle indicates that your article has no significance, maybe you shouldn't publish it...




Who gives a crap?
By Jackattak on 3/10/2010 5:31:59 PM , Rating: 2
Why are my elected officials fussing with China's Internet censorship? It's their country, ferchrissakes! Let them do what they will with their Internet!

This is Iraq and the Missing WMD's all over again.

What are we gonna do? Sanction them for running their country their way? Believe it or not, freedom of speech is not a right over there. If they were mindlessly slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people daily, I could see us and the other world powers heading over there to do something about it, forcefully if needed.

But this is freedom of speech.

It's not our problem. US corporations know when they decide to go over there what they have to contend with. It's Mao's Way or the Highway. Pretty fuckin' simple.




RE: Who gives a crap?
By Mikescool on 3/10/10, Rating: 0
Probably looking for some know-how.
By mino on 3/11/2010 7:20:47 AM , Rating: 2
You know, those porn movies are such a danger to privacy rights and free speech ...




Flipside of the coin
By wompirebat on 3/11/2010 1:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Both Republican Representative Chris Smith and Democratic Representative David Wu plan to host a reported bipartisan Global Internet Freedom Caucus that will help discuss the digital world. For example, Wu is interested in freeing up grant money for computer programmers who are able to create methods for users in China and other nations to get around censored material.


I, for one, would like to see 2 Chinese political representatives host a Global Tax Freedom Caucus where they discuss the expropriation of private wealth. For example, one politician being interested in freeing up grant money for CPA's and financial advisors who are able to create methods for tax payers in the US and other nations to get around state theft.

Now that would be a legitimate function of government meddling in the affairs of a foreign sovereign nation.




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