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The FBI and fellow agencies not only have proved helpless against Russian and Chinese cyberattacks in recent months, but they've also mistakenly raided the homes of innocent citizens and brutalized them in due to sloppy detective work in cybercriminal investigations.  (Source: No Lies Radio)

A recent government report found one in three FBI cyber-security agents is incompetent. It also found that the agency's leadership was guilty of mismanaging the cybersecurity program.  (Source: FBI)
Apparently lack of staffing isn't the only problem afflicting America's weak cyberdefenses

America's cyberdefenses are disturbingly weak according to numerous reports both from the government and the private sector.  Three out of four advisors to former President George W. Bush predicted that a major attack on a U.S. utility would occur within two years, depriving Americans of vital service.  Individuals in China and Russia are suspected of breaking into government systems on a regular basis and stealing information.

But the America's cybersecurity isn't so abysmal merely from underfunding.  According to a recent U.S. Department of Justice report [PDF], it is also suffering from internal incompetence and mismanagement.

The DOJ's inspector general's office performed an audit of cybersecurity staff at the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations.  The audit examined 10 of the FBI's 56 field offices, which are designed to respond to cyberthreats.

Of the 36 agents examined, 23 proved basically competent, but 13 "lacked the networking and counterintelligence expertise to investigate national security intrusion cases."

The report complains that some of that incompetence isn't even the agents’ fault -- it’s the fault of the FBI leadership.  Currently the FBI rotates its field agents every three years between offices.  As a result, many agents find themselves with essentially zero expertise at their new, dramatically different cybersecurity position.

The report also complains that the FBI is doing a poor job sharing information with other intelligence agencies.  And it says that many of the field offices examined were "inadequate" in both an analytical and a forensic cybersecurity capacity.

Interestingly, the FBI convinced the DOJ to redact the number of agents that had completed its Cyber Development Plan course program.  The CDP consists of 12 core security sessions, similar to college courses.  The sessions are designed to strengthen agents' background in cybersecurity.  The program was first introduced in 2007.

Since 2009 the FBI has been trying to hire 3,000 new agents, with a heavy emphasis on individuals with IT experience.  The FBI was embarrassed in 2009 by its chief's admission that he almost responded to a phishing scam.

The FBI has had some high profile successes of late -- such as taking down the CoreFlood botnet-- but it also has struggled in dealing with more organized foreign cyberaggression.  The FBI and fellow agencies have also struggled in dealing with homeland cybercriminals, such as child predators.  They have raided several citizens’ homes and reportedly brutalized them, only to find that it had misidentified the suspect due to a lack of investigation.  

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The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Beenthere on 4/28/2011 1:46:08 PM , Rating: 5
The criminals in DC have FUBAR'ed the U.S. so badly we can't even protect our country any more. There's plenty of tax payer money for Bama's inauguration but no money for Medicare or cyber training for the FBI. The criminal politicians should be shot for treason like any other traitor.

By MrBlastman on 4/28/2011 2:07:59 PM , Rating: 5
Thus you higlight the principal problem with our system that I'm surprised (actually, I'm not) was never addressed.

It all boils down to term limits. We have term limits for our Commander in Chief but we have no term limits at all for our Senators and Congressmen. They can continue to run for office over and over and as long as they are re-elected, they get to continue their pompous charade is injustice for their own personal gain.

Until we have term-limits for our Congress, nothing will ever change (unless people realize they can vote for independent candidates that are not affiliated with either party). The problem with this is--NONE of the people in Congress now would ever DARE to vote this into law. To get term-limits on a President was easy... it was all of them against him, but to do it to them... good luck.

So, we're basically screwed as most Americans don't give two craps about fixing the system themselves through the polls.

The FBI has been messed up for years. I'm not surprised about this one bit. You can't continually rotate agents every three years and expect to build any significant level of core-competency with specialization in any one given area by doing this. I can see why they do it--to create diverse agents able to tackle many things... but, when you're dealing with certain things like cyber-security, a high-degree of technical prowess is needed to even begin to pursue suspects.

I'd probably say 9 out of 10 people on the street would know how to pull the trigger of a gun or point it at someone to arrest them. Another 7 out of 10 would grasp the concept of subduing an individual. However, ask 10 of them how you create a symbolic link on a filesystem using a command-line interface, hash a password file, how to scan for ports or write an intelligent script attached to a daemon while spoofing an ip and you'll see a lot of "???" looks on their faces.

It is no wonder it takes so long to catch some of these people and how so many of them keep getting away with what they do.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By gamerk2 on 4/28/11, Rating: -1
By MrBlastman on 4/28/2011 2:39:02 PM , Rating: 5
How are they undemocratic? They prevent dimwits from robbing the public term after term. Guess what? We have a HISTORY of these fools staying in office for decades.

Forcing them into term limits promotes a healthy environment of ever-changing status quo. That can only benefit the public, rather than hurt it.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Lerianis on 4/28/11, Rating: -1
By MrBlastman on 4/28/2011 2:53:17 PM , Rating: 5

It hardly takes doing something right to stay in office. It is amazing how many people go to the polls and just put a check mark next either the Democrat or Republican because that is their "party" while never once bothering to figure out what the candidate has done for them or plans on doing.

People say they care--but they really don't. It is like the typical American is playing russian roulette with our country and they don't even know it, nor care. On a typical day, the majority of incumbents running for office are overwhelmingly re-elected.

People say they wish things were better but they seldom do anything to actually enact it.

So again, how are term limits undemocratic? Term limits give us GREATER choice rather than less choice.

Do you really think most of the poeple in Congress are really looking out for you, the citizen?

I don't. I think most of them are looking out for themselves and their own special interests. When you allow them to stay in office for multiple numbers of terms, they become entrenched into Washington politics further allowing special interest groups to manipulate their way through the system and get things done--things that only benefit a small number and are typically disadvantageous to the majority.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By JediJeb on 4/28/2011 3:10:30 PM , Rating: 4
It hardly takes doing something right to stay in office. It is amazing how many people go to the polls and just put a check mark next either the Democrat or Republican because that is their "party" while never once bothering to figure out what the candidate has done for them or plans on doing.

What needs to be done is remove the party voting feature from all voting apparatus. Make people actually look for the candidate they want to vote for, maybe even make the order the names of each candidate appear for each office random, dem first on the first office, repub first on the next office ballot, then libertarian first on the next, ect. That way all parties get prominent exposure and voters have to actually use their heads to elect officials into office.

I agree with George Washington on political parties, there should never be any. Actually there were not political parties until he left office, I guess it all went down hill from there.

By morphologia on 4/28/2011 3:15:50 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, political parties are a major weakness of American politics...without them, something useful might get done, and millions of voter and sponsor contributions would not have paid for "birther" advertising.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By TSS on 4/28/2011 3:48:33 PM , Rating: 3
It's not party politics, it's corperate interests in politics. Individuals are corrupted as easaly as an party, only with a party it's cheaper to hold control.

Illigalize campain and personal donations for ANYBODY running for any office in the government. Give every candidate running for the important offices a set budget for their campaign, divided by the number of candidates, and they aren't allowed to recieve or spend any more then that amount of money, or their candacy is forfeit.

Give them all the same airtime, the same amount of attention. Make as much things as equal as possible, so the politicans get voted in on the merits of their ideas, rather then the depth of their pockets.

By Adonlude on 4/29/2011 1:18:09 PM , Rating: 3
It all comes down to term limits. POLITICS SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER. 4 years max and you are out, back to being a normal citizen. No time for lobbyists to befriend you and convince you to do things for them. No reason for you to care about campaign contributions. No time to get to know everyone and become an elite. No need to pander to people or trade back scratches. You're only there for 4 years so may as well just make decission that are true to your heart and yours alone.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:16:51 PM , Rating: 3
It's not party politics, it's corperate interests in politics.

And then the Supreme Court came along and decided (without ever being asked) that corporations are people too. See any political motivations with that move?

But as long as people stay within their own self imposed 2 party system one corporation or another will control them. That's the system today.

By B-Unit on 4/28/2011 3:45:52 PM , Rating: 2
I feel that term limits shouldn't just extend to the legislative body in question but to the individual.

For example, say we set a 2 term limit for the Senate and a 6 term limit for the House. (In both cases, 12 years) I feel the rules should also say if you have been in the House, thereafter you are limited to one term in the Senate IF YOU DIDNT REACH THE TERM LIMIT AS A CONGRESSMAN. And the other way as well to keep time in the Congress limited to 12 years.

The hope would be to take away the 'profession' of politician, make it so that its not a sustainable career. Problem being climbing the ladder from local to state to federal might still allow professional politicians. Sad.

By IcePickFreak on 4/28/2011 3:51:42 PM , Rating: 3
“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.” -Winston Churchill

By Skywalker123 on 4/29/2011 7:22:45 PM , Rating: 3
That statement says more about Churchill than voters.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
PT Barnum essentially said and proved the exact same point.

"Three's Company" was on the air 7 years.

More recently we allowed a group of individuals to destroy a global economy with no justice done whatsoever. Hardly anyone even yelled.

Let us know if you need more proof.

By lowsidex2 on 4/28/2011 5:12:58 PM , Rating: 2
It's a crime. It's a conspiracy.

So many places are predominately one party or the other and that party always wins. And that party gets to choose who runs. Sure, you might have a primary challenger with a grass roots campaign who puts up a good fight. But then looses because he or she can't compete money wise. And we've seen serious competitors get bought out with appointments to administration jobs.

You think Harry Reid will ever have a serious primary challenge? Term limits will ensure people run for noble reasons and that they serve for the good of the people, not for the re-election war chest.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Taft12 on 4/28/2011 2:53:32 PM , Rating: 3
We have a HISTORY of these fools staying in office for decades.

I understand your position but the REAL problem is voter apathy and ignorance. If THAT gets fixed, term limits won't be necessary.

By ebakke on 4/28/2011 3:04:06 PM , Rating: 2
Hit the nail smack on the head there. Except this is a case where I'll take the second best option, because, realistically we'll never be able to make any significant changes to people's interest in politics until they think they system isn't completely f'ed and rigged against them.

By morphologia on 4/28/2011 3:10:29 PM , Rating: 3
Voter ignorance is a problem, but the opposite of voter apathy tends to be fanatical partisanship, and that doesn't help things either. A narrow-minded partisan sheep will keep voting for the wrong person simply because of which party they represent. There's way too many voters like that...especially lately.

On topic though...I guess this bodes well for my current training curriculum of network maintenance security. Thriving job market, here I come. :D

By snakeInTheGrass on 4/28/2011 5:40:20 PM , Rating: 2
Changing the electoral system to allow a runoff would make a big change too, but despite all of the whining over 'the stolen election' in Florida, both parties shut up quickly. True democracy isn't what our leaders want.

As for 1/3 of agents being incompetent, I would have thought it would be higher. How many really good techies are looking for jobs to go violate other Americans privacy / spy on them? You need a court order to intercept mail? Well, how about we just tap your phone & email instead? I can't imagine how people working on those systems don't feel totally scummy.

By Master Kenobi on 4/28/2011 6:11:56 PM , Rating: 2
It is the pay and the bullshit that keep many of the top IT people away from these jobs. While an FBI salary of 90-100k isn't all that bad, you can easily rake in 150k+ as a contractor or penetration tester for major security corporations. The other problem with FBI and any other government agency is all of the beaurocracy. Many people in the IT field have little patience for it since they are all technical people, not a bunch of ladder climbing politicians like many in the leadership positions in these agencies. Start firing these politicians masking as management and start sticking in knowledgeable and skilled employees that get results and things might change. Until then the private sector is still the #1 place to be for anyone with decent technical skills.

By MrBlastman on 4/28/2011 3:13:41 PM , Rating: 2
Absolutely it is apathy and ignorance. The problem is--you can't make people care. They have to want to care (not just say it) and then take the time to do something about it.

Most don't--and won't.

So what you can do is force them to have a constantly changing pool of choices filled with unfamiliarity which ultimately (hopefully) will stimulate them to pay attention more.

Remember, America is not the vision of one man, nor is it the vision of a select few. America is the vision of the Republic for which we stand and that means decisions are made through established laws set by the people (not necessarily the pure majority)--but definitely not by one person who stays in power forever.

The idea of letting someone stay in office forever is akin to a Monarchy or Dictatorship and _that_ is not compatible at all with our nation being a Republic.

By Dr of crap on 4/28/2011 3:14:17 PM , Rating: 2
The people, including me, don't care about politicians.
They are nothing but lying, taking money for votes, not doing their job, and not caring about why they are in office.
Their adjenda is -
- to get elected and then stay in office as long as possible
- vote ALONG PART LINES - (totally stupid)
- ALWAYS BLAME the other party for everything

Name me one that doesn't fall into this pattern!

Nothing gets done becuase it's all finger pointing, and trying to not step on any toes so that you can get re-elected to do it all over again!

Our political system does not work anymore, and was made worse when anybody or business was allowed to buy votes.
We'll not get anywhere until you stop lobbying and install term limits!

By ClownPuncher on 4/28/2011 3:42:05 PM , Rating: 2
I have no idea how you would ever, ever fix that. I don't think anyone does.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:35:50 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly, it's all long term conditioning, no other way is even conceivable anymore. That why Wall St got away scott free with what they did.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Iaiken on 4/28/2011 3:13:31 PM , Rating: 2
We have a HISTORY of these fools staying in office for decades.

The Soviet Politburo actually had a higher turnover rate than the US congress for practically it's entire existence.

By morphologia on 4/28/2011 3:19:40 PM , Rating: 2
That's if you count all the assassinations. :)

By Smartless on 4/28/2011 2:43:25 PM , Rating: 2
I totally agree. In fact, in some ways we may need to rethink term limits.

1) One of the biggest problems is continuity. We cycle so much of our leaders that we can't get any long term changes in before the next guy goes and erases it. Franklin Roosevelt may not have been our best president but he definitely led us through World War 2.

2) I've seen more leaders use their predecessor's as excuses rather solve jack.

3) Most of these guys will throw ALL of their actual meaningful legislation right before reelection. If they don't reelected, its gone, if they do, they don't do jack for the next term.

But back to the actual article. It's harder to set up a defense than an offense especially when these cyberterrorists' job is to find holes in it. I actually can't criticize anyone on this since I wouldn't know where to begin.

By morphologia on 4/28/2011 3:04:56 PM , Rating: 2
No...lack of term limits tends to be a hallmark of anti-democratic nations, like the ones suffering massive unrest in the middle-east now. Looks like unlimited electability wasn't working out for them...

The average voter is abysmally stupid and liable to believe just about any B S that a special interest can pack into an attack ad. Term limits at least make sure that the same politicians can't keep milking their dimwitted vote-cattle more than a few times.

It won't prevent people from making the wrong decision, but it can prevent them from making the same wrong decision too many times in a row.

By GodisanAtheist on 4/29/2011 1:58:07 AM , Rating: 2
No...lack of term limits tends to be a hallmark of anti-democratic nations, like the ones suffering massive unrest in the middle-east now

-On the contrary: Ghaddaffi, Mubarak, Ben Ali, the Al-Assads, all of them have been in power for several decades. Clealy dictatorial term limits would have helped here.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:26:44 PM , Rating: 1
Think your rep has been in office too long? Then vote them out. Simple concept.

When you oversimply a situation you gloss over important information.
(This technique works wonders for Faux.)

1. You make it sound like the other party is a change. It's not, pretending it is continues to be the problem. Both parties are 2 sides of the same corporate coin. So far Obama is as corporate, if not more corporate, than W. The only difference has been with W even Stevie Wonder could see it, this time it's a tad more sly.

2. Single terms means every term is a lame duck term. Usually the only time the people are thrown any crumbs at all is before a possible re-election. Look at W's behavior during his last term, cashing in on every penny of his political collateral and running a huge political collateral deficit as well. He could not have cared less how anti-people his decisions were.

3. There's no formal training for these jobs, so inevitably you get a couple of years to break somebody in. Single term also means a lot more break-in years. Are those people effective during those years? You tell me.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Noya on 4/28/2011 8:14:12 PM , Rating: 2
Term limits...sorry, not the problem.

The problem is that it's Wall Street that RUNS the country, and the world for that matter. It's these huge multi-national corporations that lobby and bribe and kill. The politicians are puppets. You should know this, you're not a little kid.

Those damn liberal Democrats and hillbilly Republicans...different sides of the same coin. Divide and conquer. Keep the average layman in an us vs. them mentality and the elite can do whatever they please. Import Mexicans by the millions for cheap labor here while shipping away jobs to China and India.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:56:16 PM , Rating: 2
Those damn liberal Democrats and hillbilly Republicans...different sides of the same coin. Divide and conquer. Keep the average layman in an us vs. them mentality and the elite can do whatever they please. Import Mexicans by the millions for cheap labor here while shipping away jobs to China and India.

4 sentences = + 4.

You realize you're addressing as many sheeple here as any other place.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By dgingeri on 4/28/2011 2:42:27 PM , Rating: 2
The biggest reason behind this is that people, time after time, are hired because they are someone's friend, and not because of anything they can do. Easily, the EPA and the FTC are half incompetent. ICE is probably closer to 4 in 5. This is what is bloated about the US government and its spending.

However, we can't do a single thing about any of them, as the unions are there to protect the incompetent. As long as unions are allowed to exist, incompetent workers will stay incompetent and a total waste of money.

By kattanna on 4/28/2011 3:59:12 PM , Rating: 2
incompetent workers will stay incompetent and a total waste of money.

speaking of incompetent IT workers.. i had to help my chem professor the other night redo his laptop because the schools IT dept was stumped by which partition to choose during the windows 7 re-installation process :>(

he knows i work IT from the signatures of my emails when i have emailed him about class issues, and asked in class if i could help.

I cant tell you how many times i have come across someone with an IT cert or degree who can not figure out basic things due to a complete lack of on the fly technical thinking.

RE: The U.S. is so FUBAR it's pretty much hopeless
By Noya on 4/28/2011 8:31:17 PM , Rating: 2
Easily, the EPA and the FTC whom? To me and you, of course. But to their corporate buddies who run the country, they do great. Just like the FDA, all these ex-CEO's and other high-ups at billion dollar corporations running these very agencies that are supposed to be regulating the companies that these thieves come from. It's sickening.

By YashBudini on 5/2/2011 9:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
And Obama continues to put more foxes in charge of more hen houses. It's the exact same thing the other party would do. Either way you vote you get the same pro-corporate results. Shame on the public for not getting off the 2 party bandwagon.

I forget, shame is something rarely understood in this country anymore. Only making money counts for anything. Actually, it seems to count for everything.

By cruisin3style on 4/28/2011 4:20:53 PM , Rating: 2
Somehow I don't think the inauguration costs $500 billion a year like medicare does now, and I doubt the inauguration is projected to consume the entire US budget by 2070 like medicare/medicaid/social security would if left unchanged...but we do agree that the government seems to have royally screwed us with it's terrible spending policies

How did they get so good?
By cserwin on 4/28/2011 3:53:58 PM , Rating: 4
I work for a very large and very successful company. In my wildest dreams 2/3 of the people here are competent.

In most organizations, regardless of discipline, a few people do the real work. Effective employees get saddled with the most challenging projects and work load, because they are effective. As such, 80% of output, in any field by just about any measurement, can be attributed to the top 1/3 of the workforce.

I'm convinced that people who think that .gov should be run like .com have never worked in a company with more than 20 employees.

You don't say...
By KingConker on 4/28/2011 1:43:09 PM , Rating: 3
Christ, the British police can't even put together single co-herent IT system. What chance do they have of catching a tech savvy, experienced hacker!?!

Mind you Royal Weddings, that's something we can do - LOL!

By Gio6518 on 4/28/2011 4:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
Is there such a thing as a competent government worker?

Useless Authoritarians
By toyotabedzrock on 4/29/2011 12:04:50 AM , Rating: 2
Why would anyone with the right skill set want to be part of an agency that spends it's time targeting them when they are younger?

And if you have ethics you wouldn't work with these literal pieces of Sh*t.

They are destined to suffer an endless brain drain until they are worthless.

All do to their own behavior.

By Raiders12 on 4/29/2011 6:16:47 AM , Rating: 2
How is this news? It just perpetuates the stigma that the Govt IS INCOMPETENT. Every one has hit the nail on the head with the term-limits for politicians. The system was never meant to be a monarchy of the rich. These men and women were supposed to be common representatives, charismatic, smart, neighbors, people you could trust. Not some shady business man who gets elected off printing the prettiest and most abundant signs. How can you have senators and reps serving 15+ yrs, like some legacy. You were supposed to be elected by the people, govern for the people, and then leave your place in Govt for the next man and return to your REAL JOB. Oh and getting paid $175k a yr and getting 1 week a month off every month is pretty sweet deal.

Back on topic, it doesn't surprise me we are lacking in an intelligent cyber or any scientific work force. With the amount of business and arts grads I see at my college, just to get a degree, its sad. Yet all my engineering friends, we all worry about finding jobs in a country that always pledges to "Increase America's science fields and engineering to compete globally". WHAT A JOKE. I receive no help what so ever, yet you would think my major of Mech engineering would be beneficial to this country. Also if you don't know the right people, its tough to get any sort of internship or job, yet the cries for propping up American science can be heard for miles.

competency required
By Uncle on 4/30/2011 3:00:18 AM , Rating: 2
You get what you pay for.

Doh! They think US govt agency is "incompetent"??
By Pirks on 4/28/11, Rating: -1
By JakLee on 4/28/2011 2:51:44 PM , Rating: 2
Dear Canada -
I want to appologize. You see for years, my motto has been "Blame Canada". There was a catchy theme song, some funny cartoon children, a poster, a tshirt, a stipper with a goat tattoo.... but I digress. I see the error now. Instead of "Blame Canada" it should be "Blame Pirks". You have my appology and my sympathy

(I accidentally voted up his comment, I needed to undo that)

By Pirks on 4/28/2011 4:22:23 PM , Rating: 2
Instead of "Blame Canada" it should be "Blame Pirks"
Are you going to blame ME for the faults of our molasses slow health care system that keeps people in waiting lists for years? Are you really THAT dumb?

By Taft12 on 4/28/2011 2:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
How long is the wait if you have no insurance or means to pay for an operaion?

By Bloomie on 4/28/2011 3:11:26 PM , Rating: 2
If you have no money and are under 65, you qualify for Medicaid and your wait won't be any longer than it would be with private insurance.

If you're over 65 you qualify for Medicare and your wait won't be any longer than it would be with private insurance.

Educate yourself, or at least wait until you've become independant from your parents and have racked up experience in the real world.

RE: Doh! They think US govt agency is "incompetent"??
By Kurz on 4/29/2011 9:22:06 AM , Rating: 2
The US health care problem stems from.
Employer Healthcare benefits (Just pay us more, let us choose our own insurance).
Medicare and Medicaid which drive up costs by inflating the costs since they are constantly in the red and government needs to keep making more loans to keep the benefit.
Inability to buy insurance across state lines.

By giving us more choice the health insurance companies will then create downward pressure to the health care industry to stop charging absurd prices for everything.

Its always about the most value for the cheapest price that leads to the most success.

By Raiders12 on 4/29/2011 9:40:50 AM , Rating: 2
Actually what drives up costs is our horrendous eating habits and lack of exercise for being "too busy" as a nation. The rule of 20% consume 80% of the resources (medical care) is very true. 65% of our nation is obese, 35% are pre-diabetic, and heart disease/stroke is the leading cause of death. These causes stem from long term diabetes, which is also one of the only curable diseases, as its a lifestyle disease.

So as we continue to drink Coke along side a Big Mac or Whopper, medical costs naturally go up because more and more people are having insulin defeciencies, heart and blood problems, and passing it onto the healthy people through jacked up premiums.

Its pretty much lazy-obesity socialism at its finest.

By morphologia on 4/28/2011 3:13:47 PM , Rating: 1
A "things could be worse" argument really doesn't change the fact that they still aren't good enough to make things work properly.

And defending incompetence fuels it and makes it more prevalent, so thanks SO MUCH for your valuable contribution. :p

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