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U.S. government official still unsure how to handle major cyber attacks

The "Cyber ShockWave" digital mass cyber attack simulation on the U.S. infrastructure took place earlier in the week, as the government evaluates its preparation strategy. 

The test took place under the supervision of former top U.S. officials who were on hand to respond to a mock cyber attack.  Michael Chertoff, former president George W. Bush Homeland Security chief, held the mock role of National Security Advisor.  He spearheaded the actions by the mock cabinet, and several scenarios could have been implemented.

The officials considered retaliatory plans of a counter attack, calling in the National Guard or nationalizing the country's critical infrastructure, such as utility companies.  Officials ranging from Secretary of Defense to deputy commander of U.S. European Command and the Secretary of State would be involved if a major cyber attack hit the U.S.

CNN filmed the exercise that was officially requested by the Bipartisan Policy Center, and plans to host a special to reveal the footage. 

Even though those who took part believe current standards would help; cyber security experts are unsure how prepared the U.S. government would be.

Cyber attacks against the government and public utilities remain a major threat to the United States, cyber experts point out.  Both the Chinese and Russian governments already have technology capable of large-scale cyber attacks, but there is a higher government concern of possible Al-Qaeda cyber attacks.

In addition to potential terrorists, there also is a major threat among hacker mercenaries willing to launch cyber attacks for money.  

The lackluster response to previous attacks -- and a growing threat from several different sources -- has led cyber security to be a pressing matter for President Obama's administration.



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cnn airing the footage
By tastyratz on 2/17/2010 4:13:17 PM , Rating: 2
Good plan, that way they know exactly how our procedures work and methodology so they can formulate a better attack.

Perhaps the TSA manual which we are assured is out of date should be posted on the cnn website as well?

I have some concerns with transparency in this respect, hopefully this is not going to be an over-revealing stunt to regain the public's trust.




RE: cnn airing the footage
By HotFoot on 2/17/2010 4:21:39 PM , Rating: 2
I have a great procedure for cyber security that I think should be shared.

Take the computers performing control functions of power plants, critical communications infrastructure, etc. offline. Create a degree of separation with a human being in the middle between the global communications networks and plant-controlling hardware.

Cyber attacks ought to be a concern for things like identiy theft or national intelligence, but not for things like the power grid or military communications infrastructure.


RE: cnn airing the footage
By someguy123 on 2/18/2010 1:17:45 AM , Rating: 2
The only problem is cost. You're talking about creating an entire dedicated networking infrastructure when the internet is already available. The cost would probably be in the trillions to have all government communications on a private network.


RE: cnn airing the footage
By Sazar on 2/17/2010 5:00:22 PM , Rating: 2
For all you know, they might have been using the CNN "hologram" and massive capacitive touch TV to conduct the attacks.

In hindsight, that would probably be worth watching.


RE: cnn airing the footage
By Reclaimer77 on 2/18/2010 8:22:25 AM , Rating: 1
Well yeah our media throughout the war has done more to work against our efforts than the enemy itself. No surprise here about cybersecurity.


RE: cnn airing the footage
By JonB on 2/18/2010 10:29:59 AM , Rating: 2
Care to list any specifics to back that up? Or is Fox the only reputable news source?


RE: cnn airing the footage
By JediJeb on 2/18/2010 6:08:09 PM , Rating: 2
Well I for one remember when our Navy Seals were landing on the beaches of Somalia at night and there were reporters there with cameras and floodlights filming them as they came out of the water. Seals were all in black for night camo yet the cameras pretty much nullified that.

Just one example, I am sure there are more.


RE: cnn airing the footage
By toyotabedzrock on 2/22/2010 1:10:10 AM , Rating: 2
If anything it proved how hopeless we are. I was pretty sure after watching for 5 min that these people don't know even the basics of how networks run. The only thing they accomplished in there mock cyber attack was causing the stock market to plummet, and a country wide panic. Oh and then they sat there and disused how past laws don't apply etc.

Proper Procedure
1. All network links to foreign countries should be severed.
Most Americans would not even notice this.

2. Call in someone to disassemble the worm/virus and analyze its network behavior and create a filter for the relevant IPS system there using, and a anti-virus sig.

3. Give the Telcos the information so they can filter as well.

4. Begin isolation and cleanup of government data centers one at a time.

5. Take away all laptops from the senators and hit them over the head to remind them to stay off the porn sites they obviously where browsing!


Public utlities...
By amanojaku on 2/17/2010 4:49:21 PM , Rating: 2
I still don't know why they would be on the Internet. Can I choose my energy provider in the App Store? Does Google search the power grid for available juice? Maybe MS supplies generator service packs?

<tin_foil_hat>
Or maybe it's because Obama finally OKed nuclear funding. Which means we'll get our first Ms. Atom pageant. Damn cyber thieves aren't trying to break into the power grid! They're preparing to steal our nuclear porn!
</tin_foil_hat>

http://miss2009.nuclear.ru/




RE: Public utlities...
By DanNeely on 2/17/2010 5:11:45 PM , Rating: 2
Because either building a dedicated not-internet network between the tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands? millions?) of substations and the companies central offices, or having a worker monitoring each one 24/7 (would need at least 4 people per location, probably 5 with vacation factored in) instead of networking them to a central office were a handful of people can monitor and manage the entire companies infrastructure would be staggeringly expensive.


RE: Public utlities...
By amanojaku on 2/17/2010 5:12:52 PM , Rating: 2
Power companies have worked without the Internet for decades, so I'm lost on how the Internet's influence extends to the equipment. The desktops I understand.

And if the equipment needs to communicate there are these things called private networks. The same companies that get you on to the Internet can also give you a private cloud. The systems that manage the equipment should be separate from the ones doing desktop functions, and I'm not sure why the regulatory compliance doesn't cover this yet.


RE: Public utlities...
By Voo on 2/20/2010 7:27:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah and we've lived without penicillin for thousands of years, I'm lost to see why anyone would need that stuff ;)

We're talking about corporations and it's cheaper.. and - well I don't think they need any other reason.

And a completely separated infrastructure would cost billions of dollars.. a good solution, but I think you could invest the money a bit better. Also I don't think the systems that manage stuff where you don't necessarily have to communicate aren't seperated, the problems are the ones that have to use the net..


My thoughts
By JonnyDough on 2/17/2010 7:00:04 PM , Rating: 2
As a member of the Air Force I can tell you that we'd be involved in anything related to cyber security.

Anyway, if they do still have terrorist cells working here on U.S. soil then they are able to access the net from local soil anyway - so we can't just block and monitor foriegn net traffic. However, if they do attack from here it may actually make it a heck of a lot easier to track, as you don't just have some ISP name and a mac address from some foriegn nation we don't have any real access to. It is tricky business; blocking all net traffic to China (and other nations like Iran) to thwart attacks while pissing off the governments and leaving the Chinese people in the dark...or...allowing them to continually try to steal corporate IP, banking information, military intel from us and disrupt our economy and way of life as much as possible. What to do what to do...




RE: My thoughts
By roykahn on 2/18/2010 9:32:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What to do what to do...


Seeing as you're in the military, you should know that the answer is a "preemptive strike". Why wait to be attacked when you can attack first, right? It's the American way! Who needs international law when the law can simply be modified afterward to "catch up" to your plans? Let's all celebrate because might is right!


How are you Gentlemen!!
By theplaidfad on 2/17/2010 3:53:29 PM , Rating: 1
All your base are belong to us.




RE: How are you Gentlemen!!
By Anoxanmore on 2/17/2010 6:36:26 PM , Rating: 2
It wasn't a princess bride quote so the down rating :(


Government propaganda
By BailoutBenny on 2/17/2010 6:46:29 PM , Rating: 2
Testing the waters for "internet drivers licenses" or some other such non-sense in an effort to control and limit the internet.

Just you watch, they haven't given up on supressing free speech yet.




We Lost
By DougF on 2/18/2010 12:19:24 PM , Rating: 2
I've heard from a third-hand source (take it for what it's worth) that the goverment got their heads handed to them on the exercise...in other words: we lost, badly.




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