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The USCG is accused of executing an extortion campaign that would make the Mafioso proud. It is currently trying to threaten nearly 50,000 U.S. citizens into settlements.
Record setting lawsuit against downloaders of The Hurt Locker has reached nearly 25,000 people, alone

A bizarre case just became more bizarre.  Lawyers for Voltage Pictures, makers of the Oscar-winning war movie The Hurt Locker, have announced [Scribd] in legal filings that they are dramatically expanding their record setting legal crusade against filesharers.

I. A Reverse Class Action?

The Hurt Locker lawsuit is perhaps the first of its kind.  It represents a reverse class action, with a company acting as a plaintiff and suing a large class of defendants.

Originally this class was set at 5,000.  But as promised, lawyers for Voltage Pictures have expanded the class, adding close to 20,000 newly accused defendants, for a total of 24,583 defendants.

The majority of defendants are on Comcast.  A total of 10,532 Comcast users currently stand accused.  Comcast has refused to cooperate with the plaintiffs in targeting its customers according to filed legal documents.

By contrast Verizon, who had the second most defendants at 5,239, agreed to hand over the names and information of 100 customers a month.  Third place Charter, with 2,699 defendants, agreed to hand over 150 customers a month.  

Time Warner rounds off the list with 1,750 defendants.

If Comcast can hold off the legal assault, it may safeguard approximately two fifths of the customers targeted in the case.  The plaintiffs do not currently have users' true identities -- just the offending IP addresses.  So as long as Comcast refuses to cooperate its customers will be safe.

Even in the case of Verizon and Charter it will take years at the promised rate to successfully obtain information on all the accused.

II. USCG -- Nearly 50,000 Sued

The legal brains behind this audacious lawsuit is the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG).  The men leading the USCG are a trio of lawyers Thomas Dunlap, Daniel Grubb, and J.W. Weaver whose main office is located in Washington, D.C.

The USCG have borrow a page from the Mafioso playbook, creating a mass "pay or else" scheme of legal threats, which many consider pure extortion.  

In many ways this scheme is the entertainment industry's anointed successor to the notorious Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) campaign of legal threats.  However the USCG suits are a bit different, as they actually have been filed in court, versus the RIAA threats that were negotiated out of court.  Amazingly, federal courts appear to be cooperating with the USCG's scheme to juice millions out of the unsuspecting public.

Last month the USCG announced [Scribd] a suit against 23,322 defendants for downloading the movie The Hurt Locker.  That brings the total to 47,905 -- close to the eye-catching 50k mark.

The USCG hopes to gains settlements of $2,000 from the defendants.  If it can get everyone to settle, it could in theory make $95.81M USD.  Of course it probably will get nowhere close to that, but even if it got a mere fourth of defendants to settle it would receive almost $24.0M USD -- a handsome payout compared to the $17M USD The Hurt Locker made at the box office at the $103M USD box office scoop from The Expendables.

The USCG has said that they hope to sue 150,000 U.S. citizens for various infringed works.

III. Former RIAA Lobbyist-Turned-Judge Presides Over the Case

If the selection of Judge is any indication, the defendants could be in very bad trouble.  The happy news for the USCG is that the judge presiding over the case -- Judge Beryl Howell -- was a former RIAA lobbyist who spent years decrying the evils of piracy.

Judge Howell will deliver her ruling on whether the case by Voltage Pictures with the new details can proceed and under what stipulations.

One complication is a recent ruling Judge Harold Baker, a judge at the Central District Court of Illinois that an IP address does not equate to a physical person/defendant.  However, typically federal court rulings only apply within a state, or sometimes are considered by nearby states.

Judge Howell (Washington, D.C.) is free to draw her own conclusions as she's in a separate jurisdiction in which the legal system still seems to think an IP (internet protocol) address identifies a single person.

The association between IP and identity remains a thorny legal issue in the United States.  In court, the U.S. largely upheld IP logs as evidence in trials such as the cases against Jammie Thomas-Rassert and Joel Tenenbaum.

And recently, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and its sister agencies have been conducting raids on suspected child pornography viewers based solely on IP logs -- with minimal background research.  In many cases these raids were later discovered to be case of mistaken identity -- but that discovery came too late for brutalized homeowners.





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lolwut
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/24/2011 10:19:02 AM , Rating: 5
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Comcast has refused to cooperate with the plaintiffs in targeting its customers according to filed legal documents. By contrast Verizon, who had the second most defendants at 5,239, agreed to hand over the names and information of 100 customers a month. Third place Charter, with 2,699 defendants, agreed to hand over 150 customers a month.

Is anyone else complete amazed by this?
I definitely expected Comcast to cooperate before Verizon.




RE: lolwut
By murray13 on 5/24/2011 10:29:25 AM , Rating: 5
It would cost Comcast many thousands of dollars to do the research to look up all those names from IP's.

They're not looking out for you, there still just looking at the bottom line!!!


RE: lolwut
By nafhan on 5/24/2011 10:52:59 AM , Rating: 2
I read somewhere that it costs one of the big ISP's (cable company, can't remember which one) about $120 per lookup. This was a couple years ago, and maybe they've automated some stuff since then, but at that rate, this would cost Comast about $1.2mil. Even if it's just half or a quarter of that, that's a big enough chunk of change that cost to the ISP is a legitimate concern here.


RE: lolwut
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/24/2011 11:31:26 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, did not realize that. Makes more sense now why they would refuse.


RE: lolwut
By mcnabney on 5/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: lolwut
By invidious on 5/24/2011 12:42:27 PM , Rating: 2
Databases are not stored on spreadsheets...

Go ahead and make a spreadsheet for 23 million users with dozens of entries per user and see how well excel handles it.

Its amazing how people with no idea what they are talking about act like they are smarter than the professionals working for multibillion dollar corporations just because they took keyboarding in high school.


RE: lolwut
By dragonsmacker on 5/24/2011 1:02:07 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Databases are not stored on spreadsheets... Go ahead and make a spreadsheet for 23 million users with dozens of entries per user and see how well excel handles it. Its amazing how people with no idea what they are talking about act like they are smarter than the professionals working for multibillion dollar corporations just because they took keyboarding in high school.


What's amazing to me is the lack of reading comprehension. Ultimately you receive a fail on your remark of someone else failing.

He said give him the ip addresses w/ the date/times on a spreadsheet and he could have the results list in 30 minutes from the database. He never said the information was stored in an Excel file. And he is correct.


RE: lolwut
By Skelum on 5/24/2011 1:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
But he implies that such database exists... Which he has no proof of...

Not all ISP have such data warehouse yet...


RE: lolwut
By nafhan on 5/24/2011 2:52:25 PM , Rating: 2
Even if it's a flat log file or something, it probably wouldn't be that hard to parse it and look for the IP addresses in question.
Anyway, as I mentioned below, the technical aspects of the request probably aren't where most of the cost is incurred.


RE: lolwut
By FauxNews on 5/24/2011 8:15:08 PM , Rating: 1
You're also assuming the log files from 1+ year ago are kept "online".

How many companies keep years worth of IP-log activity sitting around on active storage for years?

These log files might be on tape backup at an offsite storage location for all you know.

"Figure out which tape corresponds to March 5th, 2009, Pull tape #345893 from storage, restore it, parse it, and correlate it to the customer records".

Suddenly a simple task is a pretty major pain.


RE: lolwut
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 11:18:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Suddenly a simple task is a pretty major pain.

Mostly because people who could think for themselves in IT have been replaced with H1B's or outsourced to people who are only capable of following very specific orders.

I've restored many source files from damaged "pack dump" images all on my own. If it doesn't work that way today it's their own fault.

quote:
"Figure out which tape corresponds to March 5th, 2009, Pull tape #345893 from storage, restore it, parse it, and correlate it to the customer records".

Decades of IT experience both on and off raised floors leaves me to ask, "So?"

You think the FBI or the SEC would want to hear excuses when they have a warrant in hand?


RE: lolwut
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 1:54:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Go ahead and make a spreadsheet for 23 million users with dozens of entries per user and see how well excel handles it.


What are you talking about? The complaint would supply the 5000 IP addresses for an SQL search, the output could easily be in comma delimited format for something else that a spreadsheet would accept.


RE: lolwut
By eggman on 5/24/2011 3:33:59 PM , Rating: 2
Log files are not necessarily structured data.


RE: lolwut
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 11:27:32 PM , Rating: 2
Scanning flat file records for specific values is somewhat CPU intensive. Writing such a program is simple.

If that's beyond their capabilities load the flat file into a temporary unindexed DB2 or other table and use the LIKE SQL function with the appropriate wildcards.


RE: lolwut
By nafhan on 5/24/2011 2:47:43 PM , Rating: 3
I get the feeling you may have never worked for a large corporation... The reason this sounds easy to you is because you're just looking at the easy part.

I would imagine the procedures for requesting, accessing, and releasing the information are where most of the time/money costs come from. In fact, I'd be surprised if each data lookup request moved through fewer than three different groups. Some of that is just due to straight up bureaucratic bloat, but some of it also comes from checks and balances in place to preserve the safety of customer information.


RE: lolwut
By sorry dog on 5/24/2011 11:48:20 AM , Rating: 2
also, there is the public relations risk that if enough customer's names are turned over, that Comcast could be seen as the bad guy in customer backlash.
While the case may technically have some legal merit, if enough people are falsely accused of piracy then it's likely some publicity will be given to the IP address not being a good personal identifier. I'm in the ISP business and I'd estimate that at least half of all subscribers use a router of some type to feed more than one computer. This is only going to increase as laptops increase over desktops and computers become more personal devices.


RE: lolwut
By Jalek on 5/24/2011 4:26:41 PM , Rating: 2
Customer backlash against a functional monopoly in several markets isn't likely to be a huge concern.

Destroying the idea that IP addresses identify an individual also wouldn't seem to be a problem for the ISP, it would fall to law enforcement or the ambulance-chasing lawyers like these to find another identification method.

IPv6 will change things as well, but the torrent information they're trying to use for these suits don't have that.


RE: lolwut
By Lerianis on 5/25/2011 9:31:36 AM , Rating: 2
IPv6 won't change as much as you think. The fact is that even then, they will only be able to get the MODEM address of the person doing the 'illegal' sharing.

They could STILL be using a wireless network that someone hacked into, a modem cloner (yes, these things do exist), etc. and it's not the person who owns the wireless network doing the illegal downloading.


RE: lolwut
By cmdrdredd on 5/25/2011 12:43:00 AM , Rating: 2
They should be happy someone is interested enough in their movie to download it out of the other thousands of movies available.

I forget who but some band member was asked what they thought about people downloading their music without buying it. He responded something to the effect of "if they pick our music out of the millions of other music and artists out there. I am honored."


Cataclysmic BS
By Motoman on 5/24/2011 11:09:38 AM , Rating: 5
...and how many of these 25,000 would have *bought* a copy of The Hurt Locker if it wasn't on some torrent site?

-> 0

Every time any organization says anything about some dollar figure being "lost" to piracy, every single person in that organization should get punched in the face. In ALL cases, when any positive dollar amount is quoted as being "lost" to piracy, the number 0 is much closer to reality than the value quoted.

Piracy != lost sales. Piracy = getting something for free that you otherwise have no interest in buying.




RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Thrymm on 5/24/2011 11:25:01 AM , Rating: 5
No one in their right mind should have stolen it, the Hurt Locker was a piece of shit as it was. Wouldn't even be worth the disk space.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By theapparition on 5/24/2011 11:53:53 AM , Rating: 2
I was about to echo the same sentiment. Can't believe that piece of trash won awards.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Reclaimer77 on 5/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Cataclysmic BS
By PoikilothermicX on 5/24/2011 4:19:28 PM , Rating: 2
The Green Zone was much closer to actual facts than the Hurt Locker ever hoped to be. The "hero" in the Hurt Locker would never be allowed anywhere close to the front lines.

For an actual documentary look to No End In Sight. The Green Zone offended a lot of people because it highlights American incompetence and ineptitude. Unfortunately they're true.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Reclaimer77 on 5/24/2011 8:17:32 PM , Rating: 3
No, the Green Zone was speculative conspiracy theory riddled bullshit. Poorly written, poorly acted, and ultimately trite and predictable. And in case there was any doubt about the intelligence of someone who would choose to view this, you're constantly beaten over the head with the overarching message of the film. Just, you know, in case you somehow didn't "get it" the first 100 times.

I happen to watch movies to be entertained. Apparently some choose to watch movies to have their political anti-American views upheld. How sad.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By JasonMick (blog) on 5/24/2011 12:18:52 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I was about to echo the same sentiment. Can't believe that piece of trash won awards.


The interesting part too is that the film's writer -- PlayBoy's Marc Boal -- lied and said the account was a work of fiction, when in fact he ripped off the story from true accounts told to him by a soldier (according to accusations).

So in other words Boal essentially stole the idea for the movie and now is suing the public for stealing his work.

Irony?


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 1:57:15 PM , Rating: 2
Irony? Yes, but how about commonplace?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1298382/p...


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Iliketofrolic666 on 5/25/2011 2:44:20 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/matrix.asp

Claim: Sophia Stewart won a large judgment in a copyright infringement suit over authorship of the film The Matrix.

Status: False.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By YashBudini on 5/26/2011 1:31:09 PM , Rating: 2
Apologies.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By FITCamaro on 5/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Iaiken on 5/24/2011 2:01:33 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Pretty accurate depiction I thought of what soldiers over there face


Really? I thought the theme to promote was fake heroism and self-pity where the invaders are the victims. I see it as a celebration of the lone lunatic in which killing is completely incidental. The main character is a psychopath who gets his high off violence in someone else's country and the suffering of it's people is put second to that of our soldiers.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By HoosierEngineer5 on 5/24/2011 4:49:57 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks, now I don't even have to go see the movie!

Wait, does that now put you in the Lawyers' crosshairs? You might have cost them $5000...


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By Iaiken on 5/24/2011 5:19:23 PM , Rating: 1
Holy shit! I can't wait to see that as an RIAA campaign...

"Don't spoil movies for others... or we'll sue you."


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By joex444 on 5/24/2011 2:21:42 PM , Rating: 4
I punch those numbers into my calculator and it makes a happy face.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By The Raven on 5/24/2011 4:15:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Piracy = getting something for free that you otherwise have no interest in buying.

Also, we get ~8 hrs to sleep, ~8hrs to work, ~3hrs for meals, sometime for bathing, chores, BM, etc. This leaves us like <4 hours in a day. Factor in the weekends and that is an average of 5.5hrs/day to do whatever we want. Do they think it is a given that we just donate nearly 50% of said average day's free time? And if you agree with me that time is money, the value of those free hours is higher than your working wage.

So before they get into the nickles and dimes they should first be thankful that we spend our time on the stuff whether we pay for it or not. What is it they say about a tree falling in a forest where no one is around?

I'm not promoting piracy, but something needs to be said of the time that is put into watching. I mean in some way these people did actually pay for it (just not as much as the studios are asking).

But I guess they are more concerned about the fact that these same people are providing free distribution of their movies to people who would otherwise never pay to see their movies anyway.


RE: Cataclysmic BS
By gorehound on 5/24/2011 4:53:43 PM , Rating: 4
and how many of you will go near another voltage pictures again ?

i won't as i will be boycotting them.
and someone should do something against the USCG.an old trick we did in the 70's was daily supergluing of locks on banks in protest.
harmless and a good anarchist prank


Two Things
By BioHazardous on 5/24/2011 10:29:53 AM , Rating: 5
I think they really need to change the charges to petty theft for these things as that's all that's happening here. You could walk in to Best Buy and steal a DVD off the shelf and not much would happen. You certainly wouldn't have to pay some lawyers $2000 or more like in the RIAA cases. If you're taking their work, copying it and selling it, then there should be more serious consequences. Yet nobody cares about the guy on the streets of some ghetto city peddling bootleg copies of movies.

Second thing.. I think Anonymous should go after these lawyers.




RE: Two Things
By imaheadcase on 5/24/2011 11:12:55 AM , Rating: 2
The sad part of it all, majority of the claims are against the parents of the accused since they can't be charged. You know what happens since most the parents live paycheck to paycheck? The just file for bankruptcy further hurting the parents for getting any assistance from banks down the road.

Make no mistake, these mafia types are going after soccer moms that have nothing to do with it.

I DO advocate piracy. No matter what the morons at the movie studios say, it does not hurt sales, people have been doing it since movies was in existence and everyone lives on.

Just because the internet has made it easier, movie studios instead of adapting to the trend, go at it with a gun to extort people.

Its like cable/phone companies offering faster and faster internet, then imposing data caps just because they don't want to upgrade networks for demand. Its insane.


RE: Two Things
By seraphim1982 on 5/24/2011 12:47:34 PM , Rating: 2
Totally agree...
I still go watch movies in the theaters, I pay for cable, its not like my money isn't going to these clowns anyways. Most people already subscribe to cable / internet anyways, so quite of bit of that money goes to those RIAA/MIAA. Looks at these movies like Avatar, still made craploads of money, despite pirating.

I stream tv shows and download movies occasionally. Most of them have been on cable TV, yet I am never home at that time to watch it. So, because my schedule doesn't match with the cable companies, I cannot watch the programming I want to.

The format in which this media is distributed is not aligning with today's digital society especially with the emergence of Wi-fi, 3G, High-Spd Internet, Cellphone/Tablets and etc.

Furthermore, the price at which this media is being pushed to the consumer is still based off pricing structure from 30 years ago of Cassette and VHS formats. Yes, DVD/CDs prices have finally dropped, after they gone obsolete.

Costs on media should have DROPPED enormously over the past 20 years, but it has not. Look at a new blue ray movie, which costs anywhere from $30-50. Manufacturing costs on the packing maybe $3-6 each, content we'll say $5-8 each, disc less than $1 each. Webhosting costs are far less, and considering many of these media outlets own a lot of online media distribution channels, you would think that prices have dropped....

This is the problem with corporations running the world....
Only the almighty $ means anything.


RE: Two Things
By JediJeb on 5/24/2011 4:09:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Costs on media should have DROPPED enormously over the past 20 years, but it has not. Look at a new blue ray movie, which costs anywhere from $30-50 . Manufacturing costs on the packing maybe $3-6 each, content we'll say $5-8 each, disc less than $1 each. Webhosting costs are far less, and considering many of these media outlets own a lot of online media distribution channels, you would think that prices have dropped....


Actually the movie studios think they are giving you a discount at these prices since if you and a friend watch that DVD 5 times in your lifetime then that would have equated to 10 movie tickets at $7-15 each which would have cost you $70-150. So you are getting a huge bargain at those prices, if you look at it from the MPAA's point of view lol.


RE: Two Things
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 11:46:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Look at a new blue ray movie, which costs anywhere from $30-50

Where were you when VHS movies sold in the $80 range what? 30 years ago?

quote:
Manufacturing costs on the packing maybe $3-6 each, content we'll say $5-8 each, disc less than $1 each

Supply & demand, that's all it is.

quote:
if you and a friend watch that DVD 5 times in your lifetime then that would have equated to 10 movie tickets at $7-15

Nobody's forcing you to buy it. And don't forget travel costs for 10 trips to the theater.

If I made the same calculation with my first CD burner (appx $300) divided by the number of discs made I'd be rather upset, which is why I didn't buy a DVD burner until last year for $25.

DVD movies were also this high when they started, just wait for market saturation again and they'll get cheap quicker than DVD did. I'll just buy a good Oppo player and disregard BD for as long as reason requires.


RE: Two Things
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 2:10:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I DO advocate piracy.

I bring to attention the userid.

quote:
No matter what the morons at the movie studios say, it does not hurt sales,

How was this proven? Who did the research? Who paid for the research? Who evaluated it?

quote:
Its like cable/phone companies offering faster and faster internet, then imposing data caps just because they don't want to upgrade networks for demand. Its insane.

What does this have to do with the subject?


RE: Two Things
By Reclaimer77 on 5/24/2011 12:18:10 PM , Rating: 2
People keep using the word "theft". But nobody has ever been charged with theft from file sharing. It's classed as Intellectual Property infringement.

We need IP laws modernized and redefined, desperately. And we need TORT reform so bad it's not even funny. I don't think classifying file sharing as "petty theft" is the way to go, in fact, it could make things even worst.


RE: Two Things
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 11:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We need IP laws modernized and redefined, desperately.


quote:
We need laws modernized and redefined, desperately.

Fixed it for you, but it seems politicians can't conceptualize IP better than anyone else, and probably worse.

quote:
And we need TORT reform so bad it's not even funny

Excessive verdicts are routinely reduced by judges, it's not as "out of control" as politicians and TV make it out to be. And some politicians won't be happy until all tort reform is nothing more than a corporate annoyance, you don't want that to happen either.

Corporations have made civil lawsuits worse by their own actions. They take the faster and presumably cheaper way out by settling frivolous charges with a check. This simply leads to more of them since they pay. It's the GM Syndrome, short term gains with long term costs.

If they fought such suits and then sued for costs the number of frivolous lawsuits would drop dramatically. By paying nuisance claims they allow those lawyers and "victims" to operate in a "there's nothing to lose" mode, and the fact it continues proves that.


RE: Two Things
By acer905 on 5/24/2011 12:36:48 PM , Rating: 3
The fun thing is, stealing the DVD is literally forcing someone to lose money. If a DVD is uploaded to a torrent site, odds are someone actually paid for it. Really, its sort of like having 10 million friends come over to watch the movie you just got... though, think of the cost of the popcorn... eep


RE: Two Things
By Lerianis on 5/25/2011 9:37:48 AM , Rating: 2
Quite true. Personally, I have downloaded a lot of DVD's off torrent sites.... all of them which I was already able to get the movie in question because I have a little thing called? A cable TV subscription!

In which case, ALL those movies would have been on TV sooner or later.... not buying what I already paid for ONCE again!

Add into this that some channels are 1080p now..... and the "You are getting a higher quality!" doesn't fly anymore.


judge
By Jeffk464 on 5/24/2011 10:15:43 AM , Rating: 5
Doesn't going with that judge open this lawsuit open to a mistrial. Its an obvious conflict of interest.




RE: judge
By SirKronan on 5/24/2011 10:56:53 AM , Rating: 2
I agree.

And while I don't advocate piracy, this is absurd. It's a bit better than the unfortunate woman who was charged millions of dollars, but the punishment still DOES NOT FIT THE CRIME. I'm fine with folks protecting their intellectual property, but this is like others have mentioned - stealing a CD. Selling bootlegged copies for profit is literally making a financial increase on the development and work of others. That should be a far greater offense than downloading the content via the internet without paying for it, and the punishment should be similar.

This should be classified as internet petty theft.


RE: judge
By kaosstar on 5/24/2011 11:09:02 AM , Rating: 2
It seems absurd until you realize the deck is stacked in favor of big business all the way around.


RE: judge
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 2:01:42 PM , Rating: 2
And the deck was thoroughly stacked before the Supreme Court decided to label them people as well.


RE: judge
By Yames on 5/24/2011 4:46:52 PM , Rating: 2
And this may be the silver lining in appealing this case to a higher court.


best idea yet
By Shadowmaster625 on 5/24/2011 3:59:34 PM , Rating: 2
Just go around hacking into people's networks and downloading illegal files. Boom boom boom, ching ching ching, thousands a pop, and everyone too dumb to stop it.




RE: best idea yet
By UnauthorisedAccess on 5/24/2011 7:58:37 PM , Rating: 2
You're escalating the crimes (at least in the authorities eyes) being committed.

Best bet is the sneaker network. Fastest way to transfer 2TB is via USB3/eSATA anyway :D


"And I object!
By SiliconJon on 5/24/2011 1:22:04 PM , Rating: 2
I object that he interrupted me while I was watching Ow! My Balls! That is not okay!

And I rest my case!"

Or however exactly that idiocracy of a similar nature went...




Bloody stupid.
By Hieyeck on 5/24/2011 1:29:53 PM , Rating: 2
The only judges on the benches are old farts who have trouble using notepad. I'd dare them to pick on a technologically competent person. First off, an IP address is more like a PO BOX than a home address. Secondly, the IP can be spoofed on the tracker - hell, I'd live download in the courthouse the offending torrent and plug in the judge's home IP, riaa.com, and maybe the courthouse's too. Maybe that'll finally get their attention.




Who would share this awful movie
By GatoRat on 5/24/2011 3:57:45 PM , Rating: 2
It sucked. The fire sharers should be charged with bad taste.

(BTW, I saw if for free during a Free Showtime or HBO weekend on DirecTV.)




By psonice on 5/25/2011 5:40:04 AM , Rating: 2
ACS: Law tried this in the UK. Same setup, also 25,000 pirates/victims. They sent letters out threatening to sue unless people paid up.

It backfired badly - the court cases were likely to go against them, and they never intended to go to court. They relied on people paying up based on the letters. Some didn't and decided to fight, so they had to go to court - and the judge found all this stuff out.

This kind of sums it up:

Through a statement read to court on 24 January 2011, Crossley [of ACS: Law] announced that he was withdrawing from pursuing claims against alleged illegal file sharers, citing criminal attacks and bomb threats as reasons. In response, Judge Colin Birss said "I am not happy. I am getting the impression with every twist and turn since I started looking at these cases that there is a desire to avoid any judicial scrutiny".

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACS:Law#Action_agains...

Hopefully you'll get the same outcome in the US. (I'm actually against piracy, but companies like this need putting out of business ;)




Let me get this...
By Belard on 5/25/2011 10:29:35 AM , Rating: 2
So the makers of Hurt Locker are suing the people who ACTUALLY watched their crappy movie?

Man, that is double damage!

Seriously! A friend was pissed off after buying the DVD and said it was one of the stupidest crappiest movies he's ever seen. The only reason it won an award was to snub James Cameron's Avatar.

So this law suit is the only way to actually make money off a movie that isn't worth seeing.




Works for me
By Beenthere on 5/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Works for me
By SiliconJon on 5/24/2011 1:22:34 PM , Rating: 5
I wonder who this guy works for ;)


RE: Works for me
By YashBudini on 5/24/2011 1:59:31 PM , Rating: 2
Where was he when bankers were doing their thing?


RE: Works for me
By aharris02 on 5/24/2011 6:16:58 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed - this isn't the first time we've seen this clown, illogical arguments and all, siding with the MAFIAA.


RE: Works for me
By Integral9 on 5/26/2011 10:15:12 AM , Rating: 1
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
--Dostoyevsky c.1860

And what would you have to say about our society when you find 8 year olds, sitting next to their 80 year old grandmothers behind bars? How about your 8 year old?


RE: Works for me
By Integral9 on 5/26/2011 10:19:03 AM , Rating: 2
ok, so how did I get rated down immediately after posting this? It was literally the first page refresh after I hit the post button.


RE: Works for me
By SiliconJon on 5/26/2011 12:22:55 PM , Rating: 2
I think there's an auto-deduction of 1 for responding to -1 posts.


RE: Works for me
By IronBoy on 6/2/11, Rating: 0
"I mean, if you wanna break down someone's door, why don't you start with AT&T, for God sakes? They make your amazing phone unusable as a phone!" -- Jon Stewart on Apple and the iPhone













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