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The Cell Broadband Engine as it resides in the PS3  (Source: DailyTech)
USAF wants 300 PlayStation 3s for "research"

Sony, Toshiba and IBM have long touted the Cell Broadband Engine (Cell/B.E.) to be supercomputer material. The designers of the Cell/B.E. said many times that the processor may be used in a variety of applications, ranging from entertainment to industrial.

Now, the U.S. Air Force is planning to put the Cell/B.E. to the test, and oddly enough, it plans to procure its processor samples by purchasing 300 PlayStation 3 consoles.

As written in its presolicitation notice posted late February, “The Air Force Research Laboratory is conducting a technology assessment of certain cell processors.”

While there are many other ways to obtain a Cell/B.E., some of which more capable than the one offered for videogames, but even the U.S. Air Force has a budget.

“The processors in the Sony PlayStation 3 are the only brand on the market that utilizes the specific cell processor characteristics needed for this program at an acceptable cost,” detailed the notice.

Strangely, the 40GB PlayStation 3 model requested by the U.S. Air Force specifies the inclusion of four USB ports – twice as many on the retail 40GB PS3 – and slots for Memory Stick/SD/Compact Flash, which are only available on the 60GB and 80GB machines.



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In other news....
By NicePants42 on 3/5/2008 5:41:37 PM , Rating: 5
The Air Force announced today that it's looking to procure 300 42" 1080p LCD HDTVs to 'assist in the assessment' of the Cell Processors. Air Force brass is also considering the number of leather couches that may be required; while there's no word yet on an official number, many guess it will be between 100 and 150.




RE: In other news....
By Schadenfroh on 3/5/2008 5:48:04 PM , Rating: 5
Also, NetFlix announced that the US Air Force has just signed up for 300 separate NetFlix accounts simultaneously with the default media set to Blu-Ray.

(also a joke, dont hurt me ECHELON)


RE: In other news....
By Belard on 3/6/2008 6:29:22 AM , Rating: 2
The AIRFORCE has ordered the PS3 consoles to finally replace the WOPR computer.

Of course, only 1 PS3 is needed to replace the WOPR, the others are to be used throught NORAD to PLAY A GAME.

PS: If you're too young to know what a WOPR is, use wikipedia


RE: In other news....
By Integral9 on 3/10/2008 9:01:20 AM , Rating: 2
> How about a nice game of Thermal-Nuclear War?

> We tried that Joshua, it wasn't a good idea.
> Let's play, tic-tac-toe.


RE: In other news....
By FingerMeElmo87 on 3/5/2008 5:57:16 PM , Rating: 2
they also said they wanted to procure 300 Dual Shock3 controlers for the additional soldiers that have been order to part take in the assessment


RE: In other news....
By Ammohunt on 3/7/2008 2:04:19 PM , Rating: 1
Soldiers and Airmen are two entirely different things. Don't confuse them! Its like comparing a gelding (Airmen; Air Force) to a Stallion (Soldiers; ARMY).


RE: In other news....
By Hawkido on 3/10/2008 1:56:05 PM , Rating: 3
The Navy also have Airmen. Maybe Coast Guard as well, I'm not sure.

But I agree that Airmen and Soldiers should not be confused. As a separated AF member I have trained with the other 3 branches. Shortly after 9/11 I heard the Christmas Exodus Safety Briefings of all 4 branches which best distinguishes the 4 services. It went something like this:

AF:
Dress in Civilian Clothes while off base. Don't let anyone know you are in the Air Force, keep your head down and be safe.

Navy:
Alright guys, it's break time! Have a blast, drink lots, get laid! Just be back in time for duty!

Army:
Wear your Class A uniforms, It'll be great for recruiting. Let your friends, Family, and strangers know how much fun it is in the Army! Huah!

Marines:
Alright Marines! They have hijacked our planes in the past, but they never will again so long a a Marine is on board! If some stupid terrorist jumps up and tried to hijack the plane, I want you to snap the heads off your plastic cutlery you get on the plane and stab them in the eyes, throat, or groin. Once you get them on the ground, kill all but one and keep him for questioning.

And that just about sums it up.


RE: In other news....
By Obsoleet on 3/10/2008 8:29:57 PM , Rating: 2
And all those military people are fighting/dying in vain because the government let 9/11 happen. It was beyond avoidable, they actually watched them fly into those buildings. After a whole 50 year Cold War we don't have better defense protocols and procedures in place than that?

The whole charade was avoidable and if anyone else f'd up that bad doing their job they'd at least be fired. Then on top of it all we declare a nonsensical crusade called the War on Terror, instead of a War on Al-Qaeda who actually attacked us.
In a region of the world that any student of history knows after the 1st string of Crusades both sides mutually decided that "we weren't going to change them and they aren't going to change us".

The military isn't necessary to the worldwide occupation levels we have today, it's time to cut back the invasions and bring our troops back home.


RE: In other news....
By Hawkido on 3/11/2008 9:43:41 AM , Rating: 3
Step away from the KoolAide, Dude...


RE: In other news....
By djkrypplephite on 3/5/2008 6:04:57 PM , Rating: 2
They have also sent an order for 100 pepperoni pizzas and 20 kegs of Coors Light to studying the effects of pizza and beer on interaction with the Cell units.


RE: In other news....
By jadeskye on 3/5/2008 6:43:51 PM , Rating: 4
The USAF have also procured a shipment of call of duty 4 for further assessment of the cell and additional assessment of digital warfare skill by collaborating soldiers.


RE: In other news....
By spluurfg on 3/5/2008 9:33:27 PM , Rating: 5
They've also procured several controllers in an on going effort to prolong this joke.


RE: In other news....
By Farfignewton on 3/5/2008 10:14:27 PM , Rating: 5
The Russians will likely procure 450, leaving us with a serious console gap and less able to project our gaming power around the globe. :(


RE: In other news....
By toisit on 3/5/2008 10:59:28 PM , Rating: 2
Meanwhile the Mexican air force has procured 300 Xbox 360's, and is sure to be disappointed.


RE: In other news....
By Zelvek on 3/5/2008 11:49:08 PM , Rating: 3
Just In USAF has been devastated by a force of 15yr olds. Upon being utterly destroyed their new foe told them they had been pwnd.The USAF is now looking for help in decoding this cryptic message that supposedly uses an advanced form of encryption referred to as 1337 speak.


RE: In other news....
By tastyratz on 3/6/2008 8:32:44 AM , Rating: 2
your all wrong they are playing damn video games

wait, was I supposed to have my sarcastic wit hat on?

.................
I wonder how long its going to be until the title private is replaced with n00b
.................


RE: In other news....
By mmcdonalataocdotgov on 3/6/2008 11:36:15 AM , Rating: 2
Private = Army, A1C = Air Force. Replace A1C with n00b


RE: In other news....
By Manch on 3/6/2008 8:58:21 PM , Rating: 2
that's what we call our FNG's arriving out of Tech School. n00b!

btw
Private(USA or USMC)= Airman Basic(AB)


RE: In other news....
By Hawkido on 3/10/2008 1:59:41 PM , Rating: 2
Airman or Airman Basic is the equiv to private. Airman First Class (A1C) is equiv to Private first class.


RE: In other news....
By Manch on 3/11/2008 7:21:52 PM , Rating: 2
Only Airman Basic=Private USA/USMC (no chevron)

Airman=Private E2 USA or Private First Class USMC (1 chevron)


RE: In other news....
By 3v1lkr0w on 3/6/08, Rating: 0
RE: In other news....
By UzairH on 3/6/2008 3:56:15 PM , Rating: 1
Give this man a 6! Hell, even a 7 would be deserving :)


RE: In other news....
By Wolfpup on 3/6/2008 7:15:10 PM , Rating: 2
Oh that's hilarious! :)

They need some popcorn and pizzas and stuff for when they want to take a break from all that testing ;p


RE: In other news....
By Kyanzes on 3/8/2008 8:57:29 AM , Rating: 2
This is MADNESS!!! No! This is the Air Force!


It is for research...
By Evleos on 3/5/2008 6:54:33 PM , Rating: 2
Have you noticed how powerful the PS3 is compared to a normal computer at Folding@Home?

Anyways. Some universities here in Norway uses PS3 for some of their simulations; much cheaper and quicker than buying large clusters of regular computers :P




RE: It is for research...
By darkpaw on 3/5/2008 8:08:43 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, they make remarkably good pure number crunchers at a much better cost then clusters. Now if only I could find more games I actually want to buy for mine..


RE: It is for research...
By SlyNine on 3/5/2008 9:20:16 PM , Rating: 2
Have you noticed how much more powerful a 1900XT is then the Cell at Folding.

It just doesn't process the same protein strands, Nor does the Cell do as many as your C2D.

Flexibility Desktop CPU>Cell>GPU

Speed GPU<Cell<CPU

Whatever it is, its probably just good at what their doing.


RE: It is for research...
By SlyNine on 3/5/2008 9:22:50 PM , Rating: 2
opps Speed GPU>Cell>CPU


RE: It is for research...
By darkpaw on 3/6/2008 8:40:28 AM , Rating: 2
I think the major difference is anyone can download linux for the PS3 and develop any Cell code they want. The ability to develop code to run on the GPUs is much more limited though.

I really need to play around with running Linux on my PS3, too bad I have about 50 other "I really need to try that" projects going too..


Tax Dollars...
By PWNettle on 3/5/2008 5:59:46 PM , Rating: 1
...hard at work.




RE: Tax Dollars...
By Future145 on 3/5/2008 8:13:46 PM , Rating: 3
at least they went the cheaper route.


RE: Tax Dollars...
By jconan on 3/6/2008 1:12:44 AM , Rating: 2
hence USAF's given name the chairForce


RE: Tax Dollars...
By Manch on 3/6/2008 9:10:29 PM , Rating: 2
yup sitting in my chair deciding whether or not to press the big red button.

Do I? Do I?

I did! that was easy

I love that Staples Easy Button!!


By pugster on 3/5/2008 5:49:56 PM , Rating: 5
Because of all the planes stateside are used in the war on Terror, the Airforce are forced to buy Blazing Angels 2 and PS3 to train our future pilots.




Sony should sell a USAF Edition PS3
By wingless on 3/6/2008 12:01:41 AM , Rating: 2
Sony should sell a USAF Edition 40GB PS3 with all the specs they asked for and a cool USAF logo painted on. It would be good ole shameless marketing for both Sony and the USAF.




By GreenyMP on 3/6/2008 4:16:11 PM , Rating: 2
I would buy that.


By ZebuluniteV on 3/6/2008 2:41:20 AM , Rating: 4
Seems Saddam was thinking too far into the future when he tried to get PS2s for his missiles. Clearly he needed the power of the cell: the only emotion engine capable of benefiting his regime was Baghdad Bob.




wow
By MonkeyPaw on 3/5/2008 6:13:10 PM , Rating: 3
I knew the PS3 had many functions, but I never knew "lowest bid contractor" was one of them.




Wonder when
By Raidin on 3/5/2008 8:48:09 PM , Rating: 3
I wonder when we're gonna see a photo in the paper of the Pentagon's dumpster overflowing with empty PS3 shells, controllers, and cables...

the horror...




The source of the consoles
By Carl B on 3/6/2008 1:51:43 AM , Rating: 2
These consoles are the regular 40GB (with Linux installed); the four USB port aspect is an error, and one I suspect was conveyed incorrectly to the Air Force via the Terra Soft site/reps.

Anyway... speaking of Terra Soft, I think they're definitely the provider of these consoles. If nothing else, TerraSoft lists the US Air Force Research Lab as one of its customers, so if not these specific PS3's themselves, then for other Cell-related software/hardware that I imagine is at least related to this. Indeed, just because this is a story making the rounds right now doesn't mean that it's not in fact being paralleled across a number of organizations/agencies.

If you look at TerraSoft's declared customer list, it's rife with universities, defense-related agencies, and other research organizations. And this being completely separate from IBM's own customers and efforts.

Whatever the case, I think the Cell is creating excitement in a number of sectors.

TerraSoft customer list: http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/showcase/cellebr...




Procuring Cells
By heulenwolf on 3/6/2008 10:18:49 AM , Rating: 2
I actually looked into getting Cells from somewhere other than the PS3 about a year ago. I was looking into ways to increase simulation speeds at work. A company called Mercury Computer Systems sells them (http://www.mc.com/microsites/cell/) in various form factors. Their prices start at a good order of magnitude above a PS3 and they only work in the highest-end workstation or server environments. They also provide training on how to program them for thousands more dollars per person trained. Given that you can buy a PS3 for a few hundred dollars and use open source OSes and development tools on it, I can see why this acquisition makes sense. Had we decided to go with Cell, that's the route I would have recommended, as well.




PS3 with Xtra memory?
By TimberJon on 3/6/2008 12:49:21 PM , Rating: 2
Sony would be smart to include a pod on the side where extra memory COULD be added by the user. Yeehaaa!

Sign me up.




shrinking tendency
By Kyanzes on 3/8/2008 8:54:59 AM , Rating: 2
Coast to Coast AM reported an unusually low number of cattle mutilations and UFO activities all across the US.




...
By RaulF on 3/6/2008 8:40:58 AM , Rating: 1
Wow you are all so clever pfff.




Crooked deals?
By lemonadesoda on 3/5/08, Rating: -1
RE: Crooked deals?
By JONEIL on 3/5/2008 6:48:41 PM , Rating: 5
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised by the military using PS3s to test the viability of Cell BE based computing. Rather than being wasteful, it strikes me as very cost effective.
I've worked on several government development contracts that demanded less computing power than the CBE offers, but with off-the-shelf hardware pricetags of tens and even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I don't know what tools the IBM CBE based blades offer, but the only other source of CBE systems I know of is Mercury computer systems. And if my experience with Mercury is any guide, the Air Force is showing uncommonly good sense in choosing to use PS3s.


RE: Crooked deals?
By mikeyD95125 on 3/5/2008 7:56:57 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah think about it. The PS3 is not being sold at a profit because Sony makes up the cost in software sales. If they bought them any other way the price will be much higher because the company selling them actually has to make a profit on the sale.


RE: Crooked deals?
By greylica on 3/6/2008 9:02:08 AM , Rating: 2
Its a good lesson for IBM, they always have the possibility to do processors in a more affordable way, but never did it.
That´s the fact in X86 market dominance.
When the Mac Intel(I am not a MacManiac :)launched before, I was thinking why go to Intel if Cell + Power 6 is groundbreaking in Multimedia/encoding/rendering tasks, why ?
The answer comes fast, when I saw Mercury prices...
Now, there are a bunch of projects using PS3 for encoding/rendering with Linux because of it´s price.
Intel, AMD and Nvidia are looking for this market, and when it happens, because of this price tag from IBM couterpart for this kind of processor, IBM will loose again in the consumer market.
Imagine a streaming engine from Intel, the first thing that comes to mind is affordability for consumers, the same didn´t come to mind when we think IBM.
The market is done, the niche is open.


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