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Are British crimelords using PS2 to carry out notorious deeds and control their empires? The answer is yes, according to a recent report by a top British anti-crime agency. Britain's prison officials deny the report.
UK's Prison Service denies the report and questions the anti-organized crime agency's statements

A UK anti-organized crime agency, the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca), released a surprising report claiming that prisoners in the UK are using PlayStations to control their gangland empires.  The report has thrust the series of Sony consoles into a growing battle between the agency and the UK Prison Service division, which insists that prisoners are not misusing consoles.

Bill Hughes, the director-general of Soca, states, "We know that one of the issues is that if you are locked up, how do you communicate with others? And we have been highlighting the fact it is not always with mobile telephones.  There is other technology used — people are using PlayStations to charge their mobile phones and are playing games interactively with others, so are able to communicate with them."

He continues, "The Prison Service is concerned that prisoners are using interactive games to talk to people outside the prison. Communication is the name of the game and criminals are looking to exploit new technologies. Prisoners have rights and they have access to the internet. Some new prison guards are also being used without knowing it, but they soon become streetwise."

The Prison Service took issue with the report and Mr. Hughes’ comments.  A spokesperson released a statement, reporting, "Prisoners have never been allowed access to wireless enabled technology such as that used in some games consoles. Nor would they ever be allowed access to such technology.  A decision was taken some years ago that the then-current generation of games consoles should be barred because the capability to send or receive radio signals is an integral part of the equipment."

Reportedly, Phil Wheatley, the Director-General of the Prison Service spoke with Mr. Hughes on the phone and received a private apology.  However, Soca continues to stand by its report that UK crimelords are using PlayStations to send secret signals to their underlings.  They say codewords inside PlayStation chat rooms are being used to convey information.  Further, they say prisoners are using PlayStations to recharge smuggled cell phones.

Soca says that it tracked 5,000 crime bosses over the last year in order to obtain the information.  Sir Stephen Lander, retiring chairman of Soca, comments, "Many of the 5,000 are not in the UK but are impacting on the UK from overseas. Some are in prison running their organisations and we are working with colleagues in the Prison Service.Recidivism among organised criminals is high.  These are lifestyle choices for these people. They will go to prison and we need to find a way of making it more difficult for them to re-engage."

In order to dissuade repeat offenses, the agency is employing so-called Serious Crime Prevention Orders, which only allows those convicted of serious offenses to carry one mobile telephone and at most £1,000 (approximately $1,500 USD) at any time.  Over the last year, Soca also seized or froze assets of more than £263M (approximately $400M USD) through confiscation orders, cash seizures or forfeitures and through the civil courts.  Despite these gains, many believe Britain's organized crime is out of control and that the government is having trouble keeping up.

Sony has not commented on these recent developments.  PlayStations continue to sell very well in the UK.



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Hmm
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 5/14/2009 2:37:25 PM , Rating: 5
So UK prison is like getting grounded, except they give you a Playstation?




RE: Hmm
By arazok on 5/14/2009 2:44:19 PM , Rating: 5
Seriously.

It’s one thing to let prisoners have a few niceties in life. A pack of smokes, turkey on Christmas, and a TV in the lunch hall all seem reasonable….but video games? In what world do we buy prisoners video games?


RE: Hmm
By AnnihilatorX on 5/14/2009 2:50:09 PM , Rating: 3
Indeed, what a utter waste of tax player's money.

Why are the PS2s even networked to the internet anyway?


RE: Hmm
By Souka on 5/14/2009 4:54:06 PM , Rating: 5
Why??? Just one reason...job training.

They're playing GTA! :)


RE: Hmm
By B3an on 5/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: Hmm
By nixoofta on 5/14/2009 6:28:37 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Prisoners have never been 1. allowed access to wireless enabled technology such as that used in some games consoles. Nor would they ever be allowed access to such technology. A 2. decision was taken some years ago that the then-current generation of games consoles 3. should be barred because the capability to send or receive radio signals is an integral part of the equipment


1.Prisoners have never been allowed to fight either.

2.Heard the one about the frog that decided to jump off the log into the pond? (He's still on the log because all he did was make a decision.)

3.Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Seems worded for deniability to me.


RE: Hmm
By B3an on 5/14/2009 8:22:34 PM , Rating: 2
Err... what?! Getting your hands on a games console and being able to fight are completely different things. Anyone can fight whenever they want. Where are they going to get a games console from in a prison??

And being as i actually live in the UK and know someone who works in a prison, they do NOT allow games consoles.
This article, like ALL of Jason Pricks, is sensationalist c--p.


RE: Hmm
By afkrotch on 5/15/2009 8:40:09 AM , Rating: 1
It's called smuggling. Not exactly a hard thing for them to do. Get a slim PS2, slap on one of those LCD screens to it, tape a controller, and a little bit of padding. Then toss it over the fence to the prisoners. Happens with cellphones too.

Some use RC helicopters to smuggle in items too.


RE: Hmm
By Muskrat Matt on 5/15/2009 9:26:25 AM , Rating: 5
It would be pretty hard to hide the fact that you're using a game console, though. If they really have evidence this is going on, why not bring it to the authorities? I question their contentions as well.


RE: Hmm
By CollegeTechGuy on 5/15/2009 10:11:23 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Soca says that it tracked 5,000 crime bosses over the last year in order to obtain the information. Sir Stephen Lander, retiring chairman of Soca, comments, "Many of the 5,000 are not in the UK but are impacting on the UK from overseas.


The article itself states that this data is not based off solely in the UK...nor does it state that these crime bosses are in prison who use the playstations.

So basically I could say something like...I looked at 5,000 crime bosses, some in the UK, some not, some in prison, some not...some of them use PlayStations for communications...some don't...
...Therefore crime bosses all over the world are using PlayStations for crime.

My statement would be true...but its full of crap like this article.


RE: Hmm
By pwnsweet on 5/15/2009 8:52:10 PM , Rating: 1
give this man a 6 please


RE: Hmm
By AlexWade on 5/14/2009 2:56:14 PM , Rating: 5
I met someone once who was always going to jail. I saw his house and I understood why. In prison, he had a better bed, better food, and did more fun stuff. How is that rehabilitation? I saw on TV where in one jail the prisoners had few amenities and ate white bread sandwiches for lunch. Some people were protesting that it was inhumane. Uh-huh, but robbing someone is humane.


RE: Hmm
By seth77 on 5/14/2009 3:06:42 PM , Rating: 1
I used to share the same thoughts, but if you read about psychology you will realise that "personality" is a function of the environment around you. Put a "good" person in a bad prison (no food, dirty, treated badly, nasty surroundings), they will probably come out a "bad" person. Put a "bad" person in a prison with amenities and friendly guards then at least they stand a chance of rehabilitation.

Obviously, there are some people just can't be helped.


RE: Hmm
By Bateluer on 5/14/2009 3:27:19 PM , Rating: 4
Prison isn't supposed to be fun. It is a punishment, you're not supposed to want to be there.

You say no food, dirty, treated badly, etc, that's not what prison is supposed to be either. Obviously, you need to feed prisoners decent food, they need to be able to bathe, and be treated like human beings. This is not the same as providing steak and crab dinners every night, regular massage visits, and video games.


RE: Hmm
By MozeeToby on 5/14/2009 3:59:43 PM , Rating: 2
You're assuming that prison is meant to be punishment. Many people (and I'm not judging either way) would argue that prison is meant to reduce crime through rehabilitation. In such a system, ideally, prisoners would come out of jail with the ability to manage their life and be productive members of society. How Playstations and xBoxes are supposed to teach life skills, however, is beyond me.


RE: Hmm
By arazok on 5/14/2009 4:06:47 PM , Rating: 5
Actually, it’s supposed to be about rehabilitation and punishment.

I don’t see how a play station serves either of those purposes.


RE: Hmm
By JakLee on 5/14/2009 7:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
By arazok on 5/14/2009 4:06:47 PM Actually, it’s supposed to be about rehabilitation and punishment.

I don’t see how a play station serves either of those purposes.

I guess you never played the playstation. :)

Actually if we want to really punish them we should let them only have the Amiga gaming systems from the 90's!


RE: Hmm
By Pneumothorax on 5/14/2009 5:54:55 PM , Rating: 1
What the actual percentage of prisoner's actually being rehabilitated? I bet it's in the teens and the vast majority commit crimes again and again and again. Most of these lowlifes cannot be helped in "cupcake" prisons. The 3 strikes rule should really mean 3 strikes and you're out, for good. (ie death penalty) This should clean out the prisons quickly and save taxpayers money.


RE: Hmm
By NT78stonewobble on 5/14/2009 6:50:39 PM , Rating: 2
I'd love to see the three strikes rule for things as littering, speeding, parking illegally and tax evation...


RE: Hmm
By goku on 5/15/2009 1:51:59 AM , Rating: 4
I would love to see everybody just go to prison and all the criminals are let free, that way we'd all have food, healthcare, and security while the criminals would have nothing.


RE: Hmm
By QueBert on 5/15/2009 4:51:47 AM , Rating: 2
they'd have freedom, prison isn't a place anyone wants to be. As for security in Prison, really? people die in there every day, and there's a lot of sex that's not exactly consensual. actually a lot of the sex that takes place in Prison makes rape look like consensual sex. You can go to Prison, where people live to die, I'll stay in the outside world with the criminals. Having nothing would beat being locked up no 2 ways about it.


RE: Hmm
By Proteusza on 5/15/2009 5:20:24 AM , Rating: 2
Prison serves three purposes:

1. Keeping offenders away from innocent people. If someone's a rapist, its irresponsible to let him go free to rape again.
2. Punish them. Duh.
3. Rehabilitate them so that they wont offend again.

Some would question whether the second one of those is really necessary. If someone goes to prison for a time, gets out, and never commits a crime again, I would say that the prison has worked. If they go to prison, get out and commit a crime again, its failed.

Clearly, no prison system is perfect because there are a lot of repeat offenders. And some people commit minor crime, go to prison where they are pressed into gangs, and come out as hardened criminals. Clearly not ideal either.

That being said, I think prisoners dont deserve playstations.


RE: Hmm
By Aloonatic on 5/15/2009 5:51:27 AM , Rating: 2
It's just a shame that in the UK we have a number 4.

4. Reward criminals with a better life than they or their victims probably had/have.


RE: Hmm
By BarkHumbug on 5/18/2009 8:30:48 AM , Rating: 3
And a number 5.

5. Spy on free, law abiding citizens NOT in prison with numerous surveillance cameras to make them FEEL imprisoned.


RE: Hmm
By Alexstarfire on 5/16/2009 2:36:46 PM , Rating: 2
True, but I've always thought we needed prisons for different types of offenses anyway. We don't need rapists, murderers, and other violent offenders in with people who did money laundering or got one too many DUIs.

There are many prisons in the US that are a joke as well, not just the UK.


RE: Hmm
By foolsgambit11 on 5/15/2009 6:25:18 PM , Rating: 1
Prison is punishment, but not necessarily primarily punishment. The loss of one's freedom of movement is obviously a punshment, even without the loss of comfort items. But in any case, the primary point of prison is rehabilitation. With the exception of life/death sentences, prisoners are going to be back in society, and the idea is to prevent recidivism. Of course, one frequently effective method to achieve that is punishment, but it's not the only tool useful to that end.

Unfortunately, there's a lot more to the correctional system (notice, it's called correctional - to correct deviant behavior, not punish it, per se). Correctional officers want to make their job as easy as possible, and that means a passive, docile prison population. TV and video games keep inmates happy. And guards have a lot of sway in the prison system. What is more, you need perks for good behavior that prisoners actually want. Otherwise there is no incentive to behave - except parole, of course, but is frequently too far away to serve as a real motivator. You need short term motivators to effectively promote good behavior.


RE: Hmm
By Proxes on 5/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: Hmm
By EricMartello on 5/14/2009 4:13:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So all the people that spent years in German concentration camps during WWII all came out as "bad" people?


Almost clever, but you're comparing apples-to-oranges. The nazi concentration camps were holding citizens against their will, but most of the people in those camps were not "criminal". There were no racially-segregated gangs inside the concentration camps like you have in an typical prison in the US. There were no gangs in concentration camps, just nazis and jew prisoners.

The conditions in the a concentration camp were bad but the people who survived did so by not losing hope - the opposite of what people who turn bad do. In a US prison, you'll be forced to become "friends" with the group of people that matches your race, and it means being part of a gang. In order to be part of the group, you'll have to adopt their group mentality and go with it. Even with that, you'll never know who you can trust and who your enemies are. Conversely, as a prisoner of war you knew that your enemy was the military force holding you captive, and that sticking together with your fellow prisoners was your best bet of survival.

Lets say you were sent to prison for something relatively minor like movie piracy...the piratebay guys...so you go in as a nerd but you'll come out as a gang banger, because you survive by "fitting in" rather than sharing a hope with your fellow oppressed jew. So now, someone who's "crime" was organizing bit torrents has been converted into a thug who will probably be more apt to commit more serious crimes like rape, murder and robbery.

It's not the same for every person, some people have a strong enough will not to lose themselves, but it is natural for your environment to affect you because you adapt to survive.


RE: Hmm
By Lifted on 5/15/2009 1:44:08 AM , Rating: 2
You spend too much time downloading movies on TPB.

Movie piracy does not land you in gang filled prisons. Minimum security prisons, aka club fed, are where non violent convicts go.


RE: Hmm
By Adul on 5/14/2009 4:01:15 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like tent city here in Phoenix where sherrif Joe Arpaio makes the prisoners wear pink underwear, sleep in old army tents, bruoght back chain gangs, etc.


RE: Hmm
By FITCamaro on 5/14/2009 4:01:02 PM , Rating: 1
Was probably in Arizona.

It's disgusting that there are prisoners in the US that are living better than American citizens. A cot, bread, and water is all they should get.


RE: Hmm
By robertisaar on 5/14/2009 4:34:41 PM , Rating: 4
you know something funny? prisoners get treated better than a lot of the members of the armed forces...

funny how that works, huh?


RE: Hmm
By GaryJohnson on 5/14/2009 7:43:24 PM , Rating: 2
Or should we make sure every american citizen is living at least as well as american prisoners?


RE: Hmm
By foolsgambit11 on 5/15/2009 6:28:55 PM , Rating: 2
I already commented, otherwise I'd +1.


RE: Hmm
By Samus on 5/14/2009 6:45:54 PM , Rating: 2
Growing up back in Kansas, sometimes me and the guys (we were teenagers) would commit a stupid crime like start a fight or break a car window late at night so we could get locked up for the weekend to see our friends in juvi. We'd be out Sunday afternoon or Monday if our parents were too pissed. Since most of the crimes were civil and in some cases misdemeanors the record of them is moot as far as job employment or credit is concerned.


RE: Hmm
By Jedi2155 on 5/14/2009 8:10:54 PM , Rating: 2
Such great friends that you have to get in trouble to see them. Not exactly a good influence.


RE: Hmm
By Samus on 5/15/2009 10:53:09 PM , Rating: 1
You appearantly didn't grow up in the boonies. I lived in Chicago through college and recently moved to San Diego...and honestly can tell you there is a lot more to do than eat, drink and fuck. Lockup was just something to do. Was it pathetic? Yes.


RE: Hmm
By tastyratz on 5/14/2009 3:31:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
In what world do we buy prisoners video games?

Oh don't you worry, they are REALLY cracking down. The people who are REALLY on Santa's naughty list are only allowed to have ONE cell phone and 1500 usd at once. ONE cell phone? Oh the suffering! Good thing they are really cracking down!

Wasn't prison supposed to be a time out and way to separate from society?


RE: Hmm
By Alexstarfire on 5/16/2009 2:49:36 PM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure that's after they get out of prison, not while they are in it. Public education +1.


RE: Hmm
By deeznuts on 5/15/2009 1:56:54 AM , Rating: 2
My buddy is locked up in a prison in Arizona, and he just called me and told me he finished Fallout 3. I'm like wtf? This private prison allowed prisoners to buy 360s and order stuff from Amazon. No Gamefly though.

When he was out here in California it was all facked up he said, but there its pretty chill ... all things being considered.


RE: Hmm
By FaceMaster on 5/17/2009 2:40:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
video games? In what world do we buy prisoners video games?


Games don't kill people, rapers do.

Best for the rapers to be playing games in prison.


RE: Hmm
By stromgald30 on 5/14/2009 2:49:19 PM , Rating: 5
Hmm,
quote:
A UK anti-organized crime agency, the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca),


Why is there a 'serious'? Are there non-serious organized crime that they don't look into? Maybe organized jaywalkers?


RE: Hmm
By amanojaku on 5/14/2009 3:02:58 PM , Rating: 3
We was just playin' when I shot him in the head. It was a joke. Honest.


RE: Hmm
By martinrichards23 on 5/15/2009 4:30:39 AM , Rating: 2
Eh?

Would you expect the FBI to look into non-serious crimes?

Also, in the UK there is no crime of crossing a road, that only exists in the "land of the free".


RE: Hmm
By afkrotch on 5/15/2009 9:13:43 AM , Rating: 2
Northern Ireland has laws on it. The rest of the UK just has the Highway Code. Not law, just recommendations.


RE: Hmm
By AnnihilatorX on 5/14/2009 2:53:01 PM , Rating: 2
I guess the game collection includes GTA

"This is how you do your gangster work without getting caught by the police"


RE: Hmm
By akugami on 5/14/2009 3:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
To be fair, these prisoners can get very troublesome. The games are meant to divert and relieve some of the stress from the prisoners so they are more tractable to orders from the prison guards. You screw up, your TV rights, playground rights and video games rights go out the toilet. This is to help ensure the safety of the prison guards.

Now, I'm sure some of the less troublesome prisoners get computer internet usage. That's one thing that's probably heavily monitored as far as what goes in and out. What the guards and those in charge probably weren't thinking about is internet play on systems such as the PS3 and Xbox360. These should really be outlawed as most of the online games contain voice chat (or slowly but painfully typing in messages via an onscreen keyboard) and they could be contacting people outside.


RE: Hmm
By kalak on 5/22/2009 1:25:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You screw up, your TV rights, playground rights and video games rights go out the toilet.


WTF ??!!
They are PRISIONERS ! They DON'T have such "rights"!!!!


RE: Hmm
By Aloonatic on 5/15/2009 4:08:32 AM , Rating: 2
Life in the EU I'm afraid. You think you guys have a hard time with the treatment that they give MS and Intel. Euro elections are coming up soon though. Hopefully people in the UK will realise that most of our legislation is passed in Brussels now and that it is having a seriously detrimental affect on our way of life and society.

Most of this has to do with the human rights act. Don't get me wrong, some parts of it are fine, but it goes too far I think. We have a system where criminals can take away other people's human rights but then theirs must be gold plated and assured when in prison, prisons that we can't afford in the UK so we let them out too soon or don't even send people too in the first place. It really is a mess over here. What was one of the first things to be cancelled from future budgets? Yep, new prison building.

As someone points out in a another comment somewhere. Life for many people is actually better in prisons. Hot food cooked for you, a bed, heated accommodation (have heating/electricity costs gone up as much in the USA as over here in the UK, lost of people are struggling) health care and dentists on tap, playstations, xBoxes, satellite TV, plasmas, all tax free and a lot of the "residents" have never paid a great deal of tax in their worthelss lives.

A fair percentage of the UK's prison population could not afford to live so well, and when coupled with New Labours aspiration crippling tax credit and benefits (electorate bribery) systems it really is so so so so obvious why society is falling apart over here and we have a generation who just don't want to take part in education/work who settle for a life of benefits, anti-social behaviour, with occasional trips to (relative) holiday camps we call prisons when they get caught doing whatever it is that they feel like doing. They are not part of the same society that I live in over here, they live in their own little world.


RE: Hmm
By themaster08 on 5/15/2009 5:00:18 AM , Rating: 2
Couldn't have put it better myself.

quote:
we have a generation who just don't want to take part in education/work who settle for a life of benefits, anti-social behaviour, with occasional trips to (relative) holiday camps we call prisons

I don't think it's so much the generation wants to. They are forced to not take part in education/work because this government has sent this country to the absolute state it is in, that there is nothing for youngsters to do once they leave school/college/uni.
There's just absolutely no support for youngsters getting into work.


RE: Hmm
By Aloonatic on 5/15/2009 5:18:54 AM , Rating: 2
As a conservative (by political beliefs, not by party. The 2 are confused so easily these days) I believe that the state should have very little involvement in the course of your life other than to keep you safe (police/justice system), offer you a reasonable and fair chance of an education, and then maintain the nation, organise it's defence. for the record, I am a supported of the NHS too.

If the education system works (and I think it generally does, if you want it to. It's no where near as bad as is made out in the press) then you can get a very good education in this country. That should be enough, as you should have picked up the skills, knowledge and work ethic that business wants and will see you through the rest of your life, and into a good job.

As it is we have a socialist government who has said that they will make it all better and make up for the shortfall in your life through its wealth redistribution schemes, which have robbed a generation of it's aspiration and belief that if they work hard they can achieve. It's not their faulty, they just weren't given the chance in life by Simon Cowel or whoever.

I don't think it's up to the government to provide you with work or a way into work once you come out of the education system. The tax payer has paid a lot of money to educate you and keep you safe, now it's your turn to pay something back and get on with your life. Sadly, the current system keeps a lot of people in the permanent belief that someone should be taking care of them and sorting their lives out. Our government should leave people alone to get on with their lives.

/rant..... for now :-D


RE: Hmm
By themaster08 on 5/15/2009 6:13:53 PM , Rating: 2
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree with you. I too am a conservative by political persuasion. But I think you'll agree that it's the governments job to keep the country in a healthy state that work is available to anyone wanting to work.

The government claim that there is over half a million jobs available. This includes temporary work placements, which could last just one week. That's not a job! Such placements are used to glorify the figure the government provide to us.
Furthermore, half a million jobs does not accommodate for the 2 million+ people who are unemployed, of which many of them DO want to get back into work. Some are even finding it impossible to find work even though they have 20 years experience in their chosen field, so it's no wonder that people feel that their effort is worthless.

I do agree that one should learn to stand on their own two feet and not be babied by their government, but when the government does not provide a chance for those willing to work, then it's the government who are at fault.


Playstation in Prison
By Flail on 5/14/2009 2:42:42 PM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure almost everybody who read this article immediately asked the question: Why the @%*& are they getting Playstations in prison?




RE: Playstation in Prison
By Insomniator on 5/14/2009 2:45:20 PM , Rating: 2
The first thing I thought was damn, the PS2 is a cool looking system.


RE: Playstation in Prison
By Flail on 5/14/2009 3:26:26 PM , Rating: 2
was that after you read the article, or after you looked at the picture? :P


RE: Playstation in Prison
By Chocobollz on 5/15/2009 4:18:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah it maybe cool, but it won't anymore when its being used by someone who kills someone you love..

j/k but you got the point don't you? :-)


Prisoners & Playstations?
By Pandamonium on 5/14/2009 2:42:15 PM , Rating: 2
Why does any prisoner have access to a playstation or the internet? Kids grounded at home can have it worse than prisoners.

Take the toys away for god's sake.




RE: Prisoners & Playstations?
By QueBert on 5/14/2009 4:31:02 PM , Rating: 1
well, except for the whole other people trying to fuck you in the ass thing. Having a PS3 would be totally negated by the fact there are dudes in there who would have no problem violently raping me on a daily basis. I doubt that's ever happened for a grounded kid at home.

ANYTHING > being butt raped. So by default prisoners in PRISON have it far worse than anyone IMHO.


By NT78stonewobble on 5/14/2009 6:53:47 PM , Rating: 2
Aw don't knock it till you've tried it...


RE: Prisoners & Playstations?
By Chocobollz on 5/15/2009 4:12:06 PM , Rating: 2
I think, most gay out there will say the exact opposite of your statement, which is for them, BEING BUTT RAPED > anything :P


PS in prison?
By mydogfarted on 5/14/2009 2:40:59 PM , Rating: 2
What the frak? They are getting access to PS3 in prison? What is next, satin pajamas? Prison isn't supposed to be fun. Jeebus.




RE: PS in prison?
By Belard on 5/15/2009 12:30:22 AM , Rating: 2
And access to the internet, cellphones, money?

What next, sex?


RE: PS in prison?
By Flail on 5/15/2009 5:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it's called prison rape. O_o


???
By rocchioo on 5/14/2009 3:52:55 PM , Rating: 2
People on this board don't seem to realize the prisoners buy the PS2 with money in their account. Taxpayers don't pay any of the cost of a PS2.

I also think this article exaggerates. You can have a PS2 in your cell, but not the internet. There is no way to connect a PS2 online via your cell.




RE: ???
By Jedi2155 on 5/14/2009 8:11:33 PM , Rating: 2
But using tax payer electricity I bet!


Laughing stock
By themaster08 on 5/15/2009 4:52:33 AM , Rating: 2
Just another example of why the UK is the laughing stock of the world, which I hate to see, because I'm English.

People hop, skip and jump into prison here, then when they're released after 2 weeks for murder they commit another crime because they love prison so much. They have nothing to worry about in there.No responsibility. This is not rehabilitation, prisoners are babied.

To think that our hard earned tax is spent on this makes me sick!




RE: Laughing stock
By henkten on 5/18/2009 8:06:00 PM , Rating: 2
Glad to see brits disagree with this absolutely nauseating and disgusting travesty of justice, that is going on now in England and Europe. I'm referring to jails like this and also the laughably short sentences murderers get for snuffing out innocent people's lives. It seems like there's much more care and sympathy extended to murderers nowadays than to their victims.Despicable. *spits*


Read for one hour
By Dfere on 5/15/2009 12:02:29 PM , Rating: 2
Read:

"On Crime and Punishment". Small book, timeless, big ideas.

The Penal Code is about ... Penalizing someone for a bad act. There is no "Rehabilitation code". Nor was there ever. I'm not against rehabilitation. But you first have to make prison a DETERRENT. Butt jokes aside, recidivism rates are high because offenders either think they are not likely to get caught or prison isn't so bad. Then when released they have a harder time straightenting up their life. This is where rehabilitation comes in, but only as a gift of those who pay taxes who want to try to better society, not as an inherent right of a convicted felon.




RE: Read for one hour
By foolsgambit11 on 5/15/2009 6:46:26 PM , Rating: 2
The Correctional System is about ... correcting behavior. Whatever way that's best achieved is the way the ideal system would operate. Of course, for many crimes/criminals, punishment should be a major part of their penalty. So maybe the distinction is academic, but I do think it's important to make, none the less. That distinction being that punishment is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself.

Punishment is only as effective as its ability to change behavior. In point of fact, for many crimes where imprisonment is currently part of the penalty, 'non-residintial' punishment has a lower recidivism rate.


Sounds like britan Needs
By ThePooBurner on 5/15/2009 1:30:59 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Sounds like britan Needs
By henkten on 5/18/2009 8:01:31 PM , Rating: 2
friggin lol, I concur


Prison in UK?
By TheFace on 5/14/2009 2:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
So lemme get this straight, free food, room and board, and PS2s? Sounds like we could send the USA's prisoners there for vacation.




RE: Prison in UK?
By FITCamaro on 5/14/2009 4:02:10 PM , Rating: 1
Not really since prisoners here in the US get the same stuff.


That sound you just heard...
By Motoman on 5/14/2009 4:59:45 PM , Rating: 2
...was my head asploding.

Prisoners with PlayStations. No. Nononononononononono. NO.




I'm enraged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By henkten on 5/18/2009 7:59:47 PM , Rating: 2
I'm so angry right now, hearing about how prisoners get video games in jails now, AND to top it off GTA4(!!!), makes me so angry I feel like killing one of the people responsible for allowing and supporting this abominable mess! Typical of the culture nowadays and disgusting pseudo sympathetic and caring personality- which is simply really caring more for the criminal rather than the victim.

I look forward to spending my life sentence playing all the latest and most fun video games, without a minute of work, and getting a nice nutritious lunch given to me for free to suppress my stomach acids so I can game nonstop*dreams*. I also look forward to taking an occasion workout in the free gym when I feel like it. This is an absolute dream, almost heaven- for video game freaks like me. I just gotta go find me someone who's responsible for this to strangle- to quench my rage and fulfill my gaming dream all in one! You all know how enticing this offer is for youths!! This is amazing, why didn't I find out about this sooner!!




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