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Professor Mark Roth has come up with a way to put mammals into stasis using a poisonous gas, hydrogen sulfide. The technique could save lives of those with severe bleeding.  (Source: CNN)

Hydrogen sulfide is prepared for the test; an ounce of the gas can kill dozens of humans.  (Source: CNN)

Given the gas, a rat falls into suspended animation.  (Source: CNN)
More work must be done for optimal performance in humans, but rats are already being put in low-O2 stasis for hours

One of the most serious threats to the human body from an injury is bleeding.  Even with modern medicine and blood transfusions, many die on the battlefield or in accidents from bleeding.  High tech gauzes or other coagulating compounds may help stop bleeding faster, but they don't fix the underlying crisis -- once you've bled enough, you're virtually certain to die.

Blood supplies the body with oxygen.  When oxygen levels in cells drop low enough – for example if there's too little blood to deliver it -- oxygen forms reactive radicals that cause virtually irreparable damage to cells around the body.

One scientist, Mark Roth at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, believes he has found a solution in an unusual place: a poisonous gas.  The 50-year-old biologist first latched on to his current line of research when he discovered that by draining oxygen from all the cells in a fish embryo, he could essentially put it in stasis.  Restoring oxygen a day later caused the fish to pick up where it left off in growth.

Typically, oxygen levels in the air are about 21 percent of the total atmosphere.  As levels dip to about 5 percent, death by damaging radicals is all but certain.  However, at about 0.1 percent, Professor Roth discovered, animals can instead go into stasis as they lack the damaging radicals.  He comments, "With those fish, I turn off the heartbeat so they are clinically dead. But I can bring them back. So they must not have been dead, after all."

Next, he tried the same experiment on fruit flies, this time using a different technique -- using hydrogen sulfide to replace oxygen.  Hydrogen sulfide is a very poisonous gas; just an ounce can kill dozens of adult humans.  The gas worked like a charm, though, making the flies appear dead, but miraculous capable of coming back to life when oxygen is restored.

The research attracted plenty of attention.  In 2001, Professor Roth received a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) grant.  Using the DARPA grant, he moved up the food chain turning to rodents.  In trials he gassed rats with just enough hydrogen sulfide to reduce their breathing rates to just under 10 percent of normal rates.  He was able to use the technique to put the rats into stasis, where they were able to survive low oxygen conditions, simulating severe bleeding.

An intriguing side effect is that when given small doses that stay in the body a mere 15 minutes, the rats gained resistance to damage from heart attacks.  The metabolic side effect caused rats receiving the dose to receive 72 percent less damage.

After that success, Professor Roth received a MacArthur Genius Grant and has won more than $600M USD worth of venture capital funding for Ikaria, a start-up he co-founded to market the technology.  He is now testing a solution of sodium sulfide to inject into swine, which are physiologically similar to humans.  The drug is still imperfect -- pure injections of the drug caused damage, so he's currently testing a cocktail of other compounds to inject along with the sodium sulfide to reduce the risk of damage.  However, he believes if the drug can be perfected and swine put into stasis, that he will be able to achieve the same success in humans. 

If he can succeed, he may save the lives of hundreds of thousands or even millions injured yearly.

He is not alone in the quest for stasis.  Other researchers are looking at tweaking metabolism to prevent the body from dying in extreme conditions.  Dr. Philip Bickler, an anesthesiologist at the University of California, San Francisco Hospital is studying whales and dolphins, trying to figure out how they can hold their breath for hours, under sustained strenuous activity, and if the chemical basis is applicable to humans.  Likewise, a group in Minnesota are looking to develop a human-ready version of chemicals used to induce hibernation in squirrels.  However, Professor Roth is perhaps the farthest along and the closest to coming up with a cure to death by blood loss.



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By AlexandertheBlue on 10/18/2009 11:16:50 AM , Rating: 2
Had this been available as a working technology 11 years ago, my father might still be alive. Of course there are millions of people who could say something similar.

As with many medical advances this will also create new 'ethical' dilemmas. Given the damage my father received in his fatal accident (loss of a foot, possibly a hand as well), I know that he would have had difficulty adjusting to life had his survival been possible. I know that I would definitely have preferred his survival, but it is impossible to know how he would have felt. There are many things that he would not have been able to do as he had before. It is very likely that he would not have been able to continue in his career as a paramedic, and riding a motorcycle again would have required serious modifications that he was unlikely to be able to afford.

All in all the ability to have someone survive severe trauma is wonderful; however, it also raises quality of life issues that were less common before.




By axias41 on 10/18/2009 8:55:51 PM , Rating: 5
Ethics is a difficult path, but it is better to have one more choice than not having at all.


By seab4zz on 10/19/2009 12:12:44 AM , Rating: 3
The only problem is that who really has the choice?

If you get in a severe accident where this technology would be able to save you, I doubt you would be in any condition to tell the paramedics that you didn't want the treatment. I have a feeling they would just give it to you. From there you run into facing the possibility of a lessened quality of life that was of no choice to the person who's life is in question.


By Cront on 10/19/2009 1:27:16 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps an argument for euthanasia?


By clovell on 10/19/2009 11:12:03 AM , Rating: 2
Careful there - DNR and euthanasia are pretty separate concepts.


By Mogglewump on 10/20/2009 6:21:30 AM , Rating: 2
As proved by a woman in the UK recently, DNR instructions can assist with suicide / euthanasia if you are determined about it.


By Belard on 10/19/2009 6:04:45 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry to hear about your father. Death is a part of live, thou. Even if a person never leaves their home, an airplane can still crash on top of you. :(

While being a paramedic would have been a no-no, there are other jobs he could do in the medical field. I'm sure he'd have preferred to have a life with his loved ones over death. Riding the motorcycle would have been a NON issue.

My father had lost both a LEG and an ARM in an accident. Guess what, he still rode motorcycles - 20 years after the lost of those limbs. And they weren't modified. Sure there were things he couldn't do... like out-run me.

Brain damage is where I think death is preferred (that is me about me). Having very slight is recoverable, stroke, etc. But the kind that makes you a VEG. A have a friend who had slight damage. Long term memory is fine, but 10~50mins, if not engaged with people/a person, she'll forget. IE: You can be there for an hour, leave for 10 minutes, come back ands it'll be "Hey! Haven't seen you in days". :( But sometimes, may remember for hours... but the next day or so, the memories are wiped clean.

"30 first dates" is a fun movie... but in reality, its very sad to everyone. Thinking about that movie (SPOILER SPOILER)

in which her family re-creates everyday the same for her is actually a lot of stupid work. (Its a comedy, I know) Just live every day differently. Going to stop now, getting into film logic is silly at this time.

Its best that your father left the world being loved, not hated. Medical science is always advancing, so perhaps some day, such a tech may save your future child's life.

I was reading an article in which a school bus driver had a heat-attack just as she came back to the school. Teacher ran into the building and the nurse came out with a portable heart defibrillator. It was used dozens of times until the paramedics got there... she lived and recovered.
If this was 10 years ago, there would not have been such a device.


By FITCamaro on 10/19/2009 7:47:17 AM , Rating: 3
I'd rather be dead personally.


By JediJeb on 10/19/2009 5:06:47 PM , Rating: 2
Dead or missing a hand and foot, this is one time I can't agree with you FIT, I would choose life.

I want to be around long enough to see some people proven wrong cough Al Gore cough.

Seriously though, I would hate to miss seeing my nephew grow up and many other things. I have a cousin who was nearly killed in an auto accident over 10 years ago. He was to the point of them asking his father to donate organs, but after a few weeks he recovered and though in a wheel chair, is doing pretty well now. If this works and had been available when he had his accident maybe he would have made a full recovery.


Let me get this straight...
By CrazyBernie on 10/18/2009 1:55:59 AM , Rating: 2
By subjecting myself to deadly poison, I can become heart-attack proof?

Sign me up for clinical trials!!




RE: Let me get this straight...
By Spacecomber on 10/18/2009 10:12:02 AM , Rating: 2
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger."


RE: Let me get this straight...
By Mjello on 10/18/2009 11:00:30 AM , Rating: 3
"That which does not kill us makes us a little bit weirder..."


RE: Let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 10/18/2009 7:47:58 PM , Rating: 2
Ive been through this several times the only thing I don't understand is why gnomes are taking underpants from my dresser.


RE: Let me get this straight...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/18/09, Rating: 0
RE: Let me get this straight...
By MrBlastman on 10/19/2009 11:54:06 AM , Rating: 2
When I was growing up, our basement had a terrible ant and bug problem. They were everywhere and they wouldn't stop coming back.

Well, years went by with this infestation and we just learned to deal with it. After all, it was a finished basement and it was a place to hide from my mother so it was more like a compromise than anything. A compromise we were willing to accept.

Well, all that came to change one winter day. The bugs were dancing with energy and vigor as they were tucked safe inside our warm, caring home, free from the chilled toils that awaited on the other side of the sliding glass door... or so they thought. This day--was a different day for them. A friend of mine had come to visit for the day and stay over for the night. It just so happens that my friend brought with him a "present" this time, and I'll just say it wasn't the nicest of presents.

My friend, for some reason, had a noxious gas problem that day. It must have been something he ate, well that or he had caught some kind of bug. In retrospect, having known him for all these years, I can safely say that is just him. He had gas, bad gas--and this gas was looking for a friend. So we spent that evening playing NES and Computer games on my 286 computer in the basement (a Tandy 1000 TX--a treasured posession at that time). We also spent that evening laughing at his farts. He farted a lot that evening. Some were roaring winds of chaos and others were deep bellows of thunder.

I had known him for quite some time and I myself have quite the lactose intolerance problem. Farting was a minor concern on my part. The bugs though, I'm not so sure about. This gas storm was like none ever witnessed before and like none since. It was the monster of fart barrages. It seriously would make the inner child in everyone the most happy indeed to witness.

He went home the next morning and life proceeded as normal again. Well, not quite. The bugs you see, were gone. Since that one "warm" winter evening, the bugs never returned. They were permanently gone from the basement and not a peep was heard ever since.

So, I suppose the moral of the story is that farts are you friend and like YOUR friend, they can cure quite a wide array of maladies.


RE: Let me get this straight...
By JediJeb on 10/19/2009 5:14:44 PM , Rating: 2
I gotta ask. Would that have anything to do with you nick? lol


RE: Let me get this straight...
By MrBlastman on 10/19/2009 11:25:57 AM , Rating: 2
By subjecting yourself to small amounts of iocane powder daily, you too can survive!


Ha ha ha, Solo...
By Rhl on 10/18/2009 12:36:03 AM , Rating: 4
Han Solo is shaking in his boots.




RE: Ha ha ha, Solo...
By oab on 10/18/2009 10:45:37 AM , Rating: 1
Han Solo, being frozen solid, was incapable of shaking anything, let alone his boots.


RE: Ha ha ha, Solo...
By MatthiasF on 10/18/09, Rating: 0
RE: Ha ha ha, Solo...
By Darkefire on 10/18/2009 10:25:02 PM , Rating: 3
If the clinical trials involve having Princess Leia wake you up afterward, I'm in.


RE: Ha ha ha, Solo...
By FITCamaro on 10/19/2009 7:46:35 AM , Rating: 3
Carrie Fisher today.....no.

Carrie Fisher back then.......oh yeah.


RE: Ha ha ha, Solo...
By PAPutzback on 10/19/2009 9:31:58 AM , Rating: 2
Is it 2006 again?
By GaryJohnson on 10/18/2009 2:20:27 AM , Rating: 2
Gas induces 'suspended animation', BBC News, 9 October 2006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4469793....

Pediatric Critical Care Medicine: January 2008
http://journals.lww.com/pccmjournal/pages/articlev...
quote:
Conclusions: H2S does not appear to have hypometabolic effects in ambiently cooled large mammals and conversely appears to act as a hemodynamic and metabolic stimulant.




RE: Is it 2006 again?
By borowki2 on 10/18/2009 7:04:05 AM , Rating: 3
Is it once upon a time in midwinter again?

quote:
Snow-White lay there in the coffin a long, long time, and she did not decay, but looked like she was asleep, for she was still as white as snow and as red as blood, and as black-haired as ebony wood.


RE: Is it 2006 again?
By clovell on 10/19/2009 11:20:13 AM , Rating: 2
The 2008 article has a different set of researchers conducting a trial in piglets. It seemed as thought the drug was released into the air - that could make a difference.


A Small Oversight
By HerbertWest on 10/20/2009 1:31:37 PM , Rating: 3
There is one well-known fact which is glaringly absent from the discussion in this article, and which should give those contemplating such research some pause. While Dr. Roth's reticence is understandable given his need to avoid issues with his funding, I am surprised that the journalist who wrote this piece overlooked it. It has long been known that a side effect of coming back from the dead is an overwhelming urge to consume the flesh of the living. If this technology were to become widely used, the need to supply those who underwent this treatment with nourishment would pose a significant challenge for society.




RE: A Small Oversight
By SylvesterMcBean on 10/20/2009 2:19:28 PM , Rating: 2
A critical observation Herbert, and one that most certainly requires some intense scrutiny before such medical interventions are carried out. Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention.

Available data, however, does suggest that humans of the 'not dead after all' genotype are largely self-sufficient hunters - therefore, arranging for their sustenance should not present an undue strain on society's existing infrastructure. In fact, given the implications for population size and questions of sustainability that arise with the advent of realizable suspended animation, the simultaneous introduction of a natural predator may well be the most responsible course available.


RE: A Small Oversight
By HerbertWest on 10/20/2009 4:41:38 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you for responding Mr. McBean, it is very gratifying to see that others have given some of the less discussed implications of this technology the thought it deserves

That being said, I must inform you that your analysis of the available data does not stand up to close scrutiny. Efforts to control populations through the introduction of a new apex predator have often met with disaster. One need only look to the introduction of the mongoose to Hawaii, in an effort to control the rat population, to see the potential consequences of meddling with an ecosystem in this manner. While you may be correct that humans of the 'not dead after all' variety (commonly called 'NDAL's') would be able to sustain themselves if left to their own devices, I do question your conclusion that their doing so would not place an undue strain on society's infrastructure.


but
By Lifted on 10/18/2009 1:13:28 AM , Rating: 2
what about brain damage?




RE: but
By seab4zz on 10/18/2009 8:54:12 AM , Rating: 2
I agree, wouldn't the lack of oxygen, despite a lack of damage to normal tissue, cause brain damage regardless?


RE: but
By oralpain on 10/18/2009 9:13:25 AM , Rating: 2
No.

Without oxygen, there is no/minimal metabolism, without metabolism in that crucially dangerous sub 5% oxygen, there isn't going to be significant free radical damage.

There is little that separates brain tissue from any other tissue, in this regard.


Evolution
By icanhascpu on 10/19/2009 7:42:28 PM , Rating: 2
I cant help but wonder if this sort of thing will have a negative impact on our species in general. If we are saving people prone to this or that deadly thing, and they are procreating, likely giving the same vulnerabilities on down the line wouldent this eventually make our great great great great great grand children just a little bit less likely to be able to survive with the same level of care?




RE: Evolution
By icanhascpu on 10/19/2009 7:46:13 PM , Rating: 2
I forgot to mention that I think this sort of thing applies better to accident victims and the elderly, where there is no difficult question about Evolution and ethics.


By JohnnyCNote on 10/18/2009 1:16:45 AM , Rating: 1
. . . and therefore no hospital. Dr. Bickler is actually at the UCSF (University of California at San Francisco) Medical Center. The correct quote can be read here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/09/cheating.deat...

quote:

Dr. Philip Bickler, an anesthesiologist at the University of California, San Francisco Medical Center is also studying animals, including whales and dolphins . . .




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