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TotalMusic and Ruckus are both dead, with fans left scratching their heads

The experimental music TotalMusic initiative created by Sony BMG and Universal Music Group has officially ended -- a company official from one of the record labels said they pulled the plug on the project.

"I regret that we didn't get to show you guys more about what we built -- but in these extremely hard economic times (particularly for those in the music industry) it's hard to blame them from pulling the plug on a still-highly-speculative offering," Total Music VP of product management Jason Herskowitz said in a blog post.

"Hell, there are very few private investors or venture capitalists that want to get anywhere near this space right now...and rightfully so considering no one has really figured out how to make any money out of this industry (and its products) that so many people love."

A look at the rest of Herskowitz's blog post indicates there are a few people within the music industry who are embracing digital music and understand that online music streaming needs to evolve if the record labels want to turn it into a successful business.

TotalMusic also has been forced to close Ruckus, an ad-supported online music streaming service that was aimed directly at college students.  The site raised as much as $43 million in venture capital over the past five years and worked alongside 80 universities and colleges -- it worked with 200 higher education institutions.

TotalMusic first hit the scene in 2007 and was designed so record labels could offer ISPs a subscription music service that was flexible for music listeners while ensuring artists were paid.  A U.S. Department of Justice investigation, however, sidelined the company in early 2008, and things haven't been the same since then.

Last week, Ruckus mysteriously disappeared from the internet, which led to rumors that the service was done -- but very few expected TotalMusic to also fold.



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How to make money in the music industry
By chmilz on 2/10/2009 3:38:31 PM , Rating: 5
In this order:

1. Produce good music
2. Sell it at a fair price
3. Let the customer do whatever they want with the music they bought after they've purchased it

Every company that does this is in fine shape. Namely, everyone but the big guys.




RE: How to make money in the music industry
By paperfist on 2/10/2009 3:43:44 PM , Rating: 1
1. That's not really up to those companies selling the music...

2. I agree. I wanted to buy Kings of Leon, but for retail where I live no one carries it below $14. No thanks :)

3. Agreed, although they do have a right to protect their music from being uploaded all over the internet. DRM needs an alternative.


RE: How to make money in the music industry
By johnbuk on 2/10/2009 3:56:44 PM , Rating: 3
While the Companies don't produce the music, they decide who gets signed and what gets released.

I can't say I never buy anything from the big companies, but over 99% of what they put out is garbage and the majority of my money does get spent with indie labels or else via the artists themselves.

As far as this service goes- never tried it, but streaming doesn't interest me much. It's great for previewing before buying but for me at least streaming will never replace having a copy that I can easily transfer from device to device.


By Oregonian2 on 2/10/2009 11:02:55 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I can't say I never buy anything from the big companies, but over 99% of what they put out is garbage


I suspect this has almost always been the case. What's more the 1% you think isn't garbage likely may be a different 1% that I would put into that category.

:-) :-)


RE: How to make money in the music industry
By chmilz on 2/10/2009 3:57:39 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
1. That's not really up to those companies selling the music...


If factory-fresh Myley Cyrus/Hannah Montana, Ashley Simpson, Hilary Duff and the like aren't products of the recording industry, I don't know what is.


By feraltoad on 2/10/2009 4:11:04 PM , Rating: 5
Whoa, whoa, whoa! You leave Hannah Montana OUT of this you son of a b1tch!!!


By spwrozek on 2/10/2009 4:07:29 PM , Rating: 2
14 bucks for Kings of Leon seems like a pretty fair price to me. All of their CDs are really good...

If you like a band and a CD has 10-15 songs on it 15 bucks really isn't that much since you should like most of the songs.


By feraltoad on 2/10/2009 4:08:41 PM , Rating: 2
Although quality is subjective when it comes to music, I think big record labels reap what they sow. They're constantly looking for the 'next big thing', they sign them up, and then screw them over on the first album or two. The "talent" takes the gamble because if they catch traction they can renegotiate for their later albums, and if they fail at least they have some type of celebrity that might be good enough for reality TV. I'm not saying what they're doing is unethical. What they've created is a music model that's turned on them; disposable artists are good cash cows, but the audience isn't really fans of the music; they're just fans of the next new thing. They can blame piracy all they want for their troubles, but in the end it's their outdated model that is designed to work (and pay) from the top down that is the cause of their woes.


By Verran on 2/10/2009 4:26:42 PM , Rating: 2
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1. That's not really up to those companies selling the music...

Sure it is. The companies are the ones who choose who to sign and who to promote. They are the ones choosing to push these teeny-bopper one hit wonders and then they wonder why the albums aren't selling. People don't even steal the hit song, they just steal the ringtone with the catchy hook in it and that's just as good. That's all current chart-topper music is anyways. Here today, gone tomorrow.

If they'd get back to signing and promoting unique talent they'd sell whole records and they might even get more than one hit album from their artists before their 15 minutes are up. <gasp!>


Some things can't be successful
By blueboy09 on 2/11/2009 5:48:46 AM , Rating: 2
It was a nice experiment with all the universities and colleges for those people and it could've been something more, but the DOJ ruled it out of favor, and Ruckus was left in the dust as a result. Another failed experiment left in the cold!!




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