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Best Buy will heavily promote TiVo products in stores

The DVR is one of the consumer electronics devices in many homes that people simply can’t live without. TiVo helped to popularize the DVR with its line of recorders, but the company has seen its products decline in popularity as cable and satellite companies offer their own DVRs to consumers.

Another one of the problems contributing to TiVo's drop in popularity is that the company slashed its marketing budget from $9 million in 2007 to less than $1 million in the quarter ending on April 30. That significant drop in marketing funds means that TiVo has a hard time letting people know that its products can do more than pause and record TV and has features that cable company DVRs don't offer.

One of these features was announced in April when TiVo DVRs began offering users the ability to download movies directly from Amazon. TiVo and Best Buy have announced a new broad partnership that will have the two electronics firms team up to cross promote their products.

Best Buy will heavily promote TiVo products in its 1,100 stores across the country and TiVo will develop a version of its DVR set-top box to be sold in Best Buy stores. The box will allow Best Buy to advertise its products and services to TiVo subscribers in their homes on their TVs.

TiVo CEO Tom Rogers said, "[The deal is] a huge step above any kind of marketing that has ever been done for TiVo before."

Part of the deal will also see Best Buy finance an effort to develop TiVo software and search tools to use on the Best Buy brand of consumer electronics. The software will make its way to Insignia HDTVs among other Best Buy offerings.

Rodgers continued saying, "The kind of strategic marketing embrace this deal involves will very substantially advance the understanding of what we now have to offer."



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I don't get it
By blowfish on 7/9/2009 11:26:28 PM , Rating: 2
Why do people subscribe to a Tivo service for something they can get for free?

It's like the early days of AOL.

Can't see them hanging on much longer.

FTA rules.




RE: I don't get it
By Pneumothorax on 7/10/2009 12:09:14 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe because you can easily upgrade any Tivo HD to a full 1TB of storage. Try that on any other stupid Motorola POS box that TWC/Comcast/Charter etc... The interface is also much better. To me it's worth it.


RE: I don't get it
By Smilin on 7/10/2009 11:09:26 AM , Rating: 2
My Tivo service IS free. I have no monthly charge.


RE: I don't get it
By steven975 on 7/10/2009 12:35:14 PM , Rating: 2
Then you prepaid or got some special deal. Lifetime service is $400 and only covers ONE box. Tivo may let you upgrade but they don't have to and often do not.


RE: I don't get it
By Smilin on 7/13/2009 3:47:34 PM , Rating: 2
It was $200 back in 2001 and I'm on my 3rd DVR (2x Series 2, 1x Series 3).



this part worries me
By kattanna on 7/9/2009 2:48:30 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The box will allow Best Buy to advertise its products and services to TiVo subscribers in their homes on their TVs


just how intrusive will these ads be and when will they happen?

while im not a tivo customer as i use the DVR i got from DISH, but i can see that method of advertising growing beyond this initial deal.




RE: this part worries me
By Smilin on 7/9/2009 3:21:42 PM , Rating: 3
The way tivo does ads right now:

1. If a commercial is playing you'll get a "press thumbsup for more info" icon in the corner. This is only for some commercials. 90% don't do this.

2. Fast forwarding through commercials brings up a box in the middle of your screen with info about the product. Again only for some commercials. 90% don't do this.

3. In the "apps" on the tivo there are some pay-per products listed.

4. Previews of movies or programs will download into leftover free space (if you have it). I have this option disabled.

There is plenty of room for more advertising methods like this that I could see them adding. It's really nonintrustive stuff that I don't mind...and trust me I'm VERY easily peeved if someone tries to shove an ad in my face on a product that *I* paid for rather than the advertisers.

Tivos well deserved reputation tells me that they won't do anything to piss off the customer. If it were any other company I might be worried.


Great for TiVo
By marks70 on 7/9/2009 9:07:19 PM , Rating: 2
I'm very happy TiVo was able to get this deal with Best Buy, because they can use all the help they can to stay afloat. While I'm not at all crazy about the Best Buy advertising on my TV as a result of this, I'd rather have that than no TiVo service at all. The TiVo interface alone is worth the price of admission and is so much better than cable's and satellite's DVR products. On the plus side, DirectTV is supposed to be coming out with a TiVo branded DVR sometime this year, so something to look forward to if you use satellite.




RE: Great for TiVo
By Smilin on 7/10/2009 11:10:36 AM , Rating: 2
Can't wait.

My Cable company sucks so I've been wanting to move to satellite. Satellite doesn't work with my Tivo so I haven't switched.


Tivo has some issues to overcome and costs a lot
By steven975 on 7/10/2009 12:41:21 PM , Rating: 2
Tivo will do well if they can present a compelling upgrade to the cable box DVR at a substantial savings. These things are standing in the way:
1. No/spotty SDV support. There are workarounds (the SDV adapter) but it is not available everywhere and is yet another piece of equipment to lease from the cable company. Mine offers it free for one year only...then you lease it
2. Most cable companies can't support a CableCARD. At all. Most reps downright deny they exist. The cable guy that installed my CARD trashed the Tivo and upsold the POS SciAtl box nonstop.
3. Service is too expensive. All you're really paying for is guide updates. Either stop subsidizing the hardware or lower the price
4. Storage upgrades are limited. Only option is the WD 500GB MyDVR Expander or hack your box, voiding the warranty.
5. If your Tivo breaks, you are at Tivo's mercy as to whether a lifetime sub will be honored. You also have to pay for another CableCARD install. My TivoHD broke after 2 days and I sent it all back due to this.

Right now, I've replaced it with an ATI DCT with no recurring fee beyond the cableCARD.




By jhb116 on 7/10/2009 7:14:37 PM , Rating: 2
My wife and I just mentioned this in Best Buy. I think the largest reason Tivo is going down hill is that they continue to sell the Tivo box for several hundreds of dollars and then you have to pay a monthly fee. The monthly fee isn't that far off what the cable/satillite companies charge. The reason I steared clear is the box costs several hundred dollars upfront and then you have to pay the monthly fee. They need to pratically give away the boxes (they can't be that expensive today) and make their money on the fees.


Series 3
By Smilin on 7/9/2009 2:20:05 PM , Rating: 2
I've got an old series 3 Tivo that I've had for years now and Tivo continuously updates it and adds new features.

Amazon movie downloads
Netflix movie downloads
Full HD support (including movies from the above)
streaming internet music
youtube
all other sorts of built in apps.
robust search and programming features
dual tuners (you can find more these days)
300GB drive
photos/music from your home pcs.
movies transferred to pcs.
internet based recording schedules
..
.

I've really been wanting to go to Media center or something but Tivo keeps upgrading me and giving me a compelling reason not to.

It makes me sad to see them struggle as they really have a great product and treat their customers well. Something rare these days.




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