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They filed a brief on Tuesday of this week

According to The Hill, Democratic Sens. Mark Udall (Colo.), Ron Wyden (Ore.) and Martin Heinrich (N.M.) filed a brief Tuesday in support of a lawsuit that aims to end the NSA's bulk collection of phone records. 
 
The lawsuit was filed by a coalition of civil liberties groups led by the Electronic Frontier Foundation. According to the suit, the NSA's bulk collection violates constitutional rights to free speech, privacy and free association.


The three senators said that the NSA's method of bulk data collection doesn’t do much to counter acts of terrorism. In fact, they believe a more "targeted" form of surveillance would be more effective. 
 
"[The senators] have reviewed this surveillance extensively and have seen no evidence that the bulk collection of Americans’ phone records has provided any intelligence of value that could not have been gathered through less intrusive means," said the senator's lawyers.
 
Not all senators feel the same way, though. Just last week, Senator John McCain (R-AZ) told German newspaper Der Spiegel that Keith Alexander, director of the NSA, should absolutely take responsibility for the leaks by resigning or getting fired. Instead of combating the NSA's methods, McCain believes the agency should've done a better job keeping it a secret. 

Source: The Hill



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Great!
By gevorg on 11/20/2013 3:37:53 PM , Rating: 5
Now the NSA cronies are digging up all the dirt on these senators to blackmail them.




RE: Great!
By Jeffk464 on 11/20/2013 4:04:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, that's the danger of this crap. You can destroy anybody opposed to the current political group in power. Don't think McCarthyism can never happen again.


RE: Great!
By Jeffk464 on 11/20/2013 4:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
The LAPD police union was hiring private investigators to target council members who didn't vote their way. This type of stuff has happened throughout history.


RE: Great!
By Etsp on 11/20/2013 4:15:44 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting that they couldn't trust their own members to do it...


RE: Great!
By SuckRaven on 11/20/2013 4:35:58 PM , Rating: 3
Ultimately, this kind of thing always boils down to one thing. Power. And what is it that they say about absolute power? It corrupts absolutely. In other words, transparency is a good thing. Yepp..., depends on who you ask though. If it's making John and Jane's dirty laundry for the NSA to see, the more transparency the better. If it's Edward Snowden spilling the beans on the NSA's data collection about John and Jane, then it's treason. LOL. This kind of cat and mouse game has been and will always be going on. It comes down to power. And then who watches the watchers. Oops...this time they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Next time they will be more careful. After all, they are in the business of obfuscation and secrets. And if anyone else even so much as comes close to doing what Snowden did, well, we'll just never know the name of that person. The "transparency" that the status quo preaches will only convince idiots, and people with weak wills and that are easily manipulated by buzzwords, and catch-phrases, and cleverly written speeches designed to shield the unthinking masses from the fact that privacy is becoming more and more of an illusion each day, and is already pretty much non-existent. Get used to it. Shut your mouth and follow the rules just like a good subject of the empire o.k.?


RE: Great!
By Etsp on 11/20/2013 4:58:38 PM , Rating: 5
No.

Also, about the "enter" key. You need to use it more.


RE: Great!
By Jeffk464 on 11/21/2013 1:58:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Interesting that they couldn't trust their own members to do it...


Plausible deniability. The agency is being prosecuted with no penalty for the police union.


RE: Great!
By inperfectdarkness on 11/21/2013 6:18:27 AM , Rating: 2
I think it's more along the lines of J. Edgar Hoover than McCarthy--but in either event, it's very bad juju.

Speaking of data collection, within my lifetime, we will see a deluge of potential political candidates whose careers are scuttled by events that transpired when they were teenagers. Currently, scandal only has been caused by events during adulthood, but I foresee that it will retroactively impact everyone due to everything from hashtagging to facebook.

I hope that eventually, we will revert to judging people by the caliber of their character, not on the affairs of their personal lives.


RE: Great!
By ie5x on 11/21/2013 4:48:44 AM , Rating: 2
That deserves a 6.


NSA at #3
By Mike Acker on 11/21/2013 6:56:46 AM , Rating: 2
recent activity of the NSA is offensive, -- agreed.

but they are #3

#1 is illegal hacking.
#2 is commercial data mining
#3 NSA snooping

actually if the NSA would enforce the National No-Call list and prosecute villians using sequential dialers on cell-nets I would give them the Big Green Light. As in doing this they would be doing what government is supposed to do : enforce the law of the land.




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