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Who (or what) killed the iPhone's battery life? The mystery continues as a growing number of users are reporting their battery life is coming up short.  (Source: Milton Bradley)
More iPhones are dying, and this time its not from sunlight

The iPhone 3G S has enjoyed tremendous popularity thanks to its powerful hardware, slick (and abundant) applications, and new features.  However, it has also had its problems with overheating and signal strength.  Now a new problem has been rearing its ugly head -- poor battery life.

For a mobile gadget, especially cell phones, battery life is critical.  And when it comes to battery life, many are finding the iPhone to come up unexpectedly short.  Apple's support forums are seeing a large volume of battery-related gripes.  Writes one user, npshenoy2, "My charge did not last from morning to evening with a very moderate usage of checking mails just 5 times in a day and 10 minutes of YouTube video. All this was on Wi-Fi with 3G turned off."

Theories about the cause are becoming abundant as well.  Brian X. Chen of Wired.com believes that the problem is caused by a defective batch of hardware.  Meanwhile, The Examiner's Daniel Nations blames the iPhone OS v3.0 update for the problems.  He based this theory on the fact that the first reports surfaced after the update.

Some, like Mr. Nations believe that the new push notifications are having a major adverse impact on battery life.  Apple had long warned that running multiple applications would cripple the iPhone's battery, and while push applications aren't true multitasking, they do admittedly place additional drain on the battery.

For those unhappy with battery life, there are some options, all of which involve disabling features.  First you can disable Push Notifications via the Setting menu, Bluetooth (Settings>General), and Wi-Fi.  As a last resort you can also turn off 3G and switch to the older EDGE network, which the first generation iPhone used.  That, however, will likely decrease both browsing speeds and reception quality.

As with many of the other iPhone problems, there's much hope in the community that the iPhone OS v3.1 update will bring salvation for those suffering these woes.

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Just change the battery
By applesucks3982 on 7/8/2009 9:37:24 PM , Rating: 4
My G1 had the same problem..

Just do what I did, buy a higher capacity battery.

Oh right, you can't!




RE: Just change the battery
By Pirks on 7/8/2009 10:27:08 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
you can't!
Well, maybe applesucks3982 can't, but any other human with functioning brain definitely can: http://fastmac.com/iv.php


RE: Just change the battery
By applesucks3982 on 7/8/2009 10:55:01 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah, let's attach an ugly stick.

Where's the real battery, dude?


RE: Just change the battery
By leexgx on 7/8/2009 11:11:50 PM , Rating: 2
the 2400mAh bat you can get for the G1 makes it 1.5x thicker (about 1-0.8cm) but makes the phone last 2-3x longer as the bigger bat is under less strain so tends to last longer then 2x

that iphone bat extender one does not look bad, if it was Not for the Bend int he G1 that device would work for the G1 as well

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/16/seidios-oversiz...


RE: Just change the battery
By leexgx on 7/8/2009 11:30:16 PM , Rating: 2
ok its longer due to more mAh google is 1150 bigger one i was thinking off was 2600 mAh

1200-1700 are single do not need new case
2200/2300/2600 are dual cells makes the phone look bit fatter (in the UK can seem to only get the 2200 and 2300mAh ones)


RE: Just change the battery
By MrPoletski on 7/9/2009 4:59:58 AM , Rating: 3
I'm not sure what the Joker would make of all that kit.


RE: Just change the battery
By ccmfreak2 on 7/9/2009 8:50:46 AM , Rating: 5
So, your saying people should pay hundreds for the new iPhone, and then pay $80 for an additional add-on battery pack to make up for Apple's crappy choice in battery? Why should I make up Apple's short fall?

Way to try to justify poor quality, Pirks. I wouldn't expect anything less.


RE: Just change the battery
By MrPoletski on 7/9/2009 4:58:41 AM , Rating: 1
So... is everybody charging their iphone with a USB port?

yanno, its great isn't it, can plug the phone into a usb port to charge it, how convenient!

USB 2 interfaces only provide 500mA of current, most phone chargers want to give an amp or upwards.

Hence unless the 3G has been designed to be USB charged and hence take HOURS to charge, it will not charge properly out of a USB2 port.


RE: Just change the battery
By captainBOB on 7/9/2009 4:48:06 PM , Rating: 2
iPhone charger is a usb cable with an A/C adapter, it can charge through usb without any problems whatsoever.

The only issue with the cable is that its ridiculously short.


iSuck sucks the battery dry
By hyvonen on 7/8/2009 6:57:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, ARM-based designs use so little power...




RE: iSuck sucks the battery dry
By MonkeyPaw on 7/8/2009 7:53:48 PM , Rating: 5
It's not ARM's fault, as we're still talking milliwatts of power here. If you read reviews, the Cortex A8 is a massive performance improvement over the A11. It's when you cram a lot of (relative) power into a small space, that's when something's got to give. As is often the case lately, it's Apple's "function follows form" approach and poor product testing that are the problem.


RE: iSuck sucks the battery dry
By shaw on 7/8/2009 9:32:52 PM , Rating: 5
Well then maybe the CORE should speed up its Krogoth Project to make the batteries last longer.


RE: iSuck sucks the battery dry
By Chapbass on 7/8/2009 10:48:30 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO, +1 for Total Annihlation reference.

Bravo sir, bravo.


RE: iSuck sucks the battery dry
By bhieb on 7/9/2009 9:36:26 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, I miss that game. Greatness.


By AnnihilatorX on 7/10/2009 7:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
+6


RE: iSuck sucks the battery dry
By cocoviper on 7/8/2009 10:11:15 PM , Rating: 2
Yea most of the problem can be laid with apple putting in more ram, a faster CPU and keeping the battery the exact same.


It just works...
By hyvonen on 7/8/2009 7:00:36 PM , Rating: 5
...at least for a few seconds




RE: It just works...
By cheetah2k on 7/8/2009 8:06:24 PM , Rating: 2
Thats 5 more seconds than I get with mine.....


RE: It just works...
By jadeskye on 7/8/2009 8:23:38 PM , Rating: 5
my cousin was showing me his brand new iphone 3GS today, charged it in the morning, i saw it around 1-ish. died in my hands.

I lolled >_> he didn't.


RE: It just works...
By cheetah2k on 7/8/2009 9:20:51 PM , Rating: 3
I disabled "PUSH" notifications, and that made a difference. Shouldnt be called "PUSH"... Thinking "DRAIN" is more appropriate :-D


RE: It just works...
By MScrip on 7/9/2009 7:35:20 AM , Rating: 5
Isn't the point of "push" that the server sends something to the phone only when needed... vs. the phone constantly polling the server every few seconds?


smart phones
By itzmec on 7/8/2009 8:26:53 PM , Rating: 2
my girlfriend bitches about the short battery life on her blackberry. i'm guessing that short battery life is an issue with most smartphones. (compared to your basic mobile phone)




RE: smart phones
By TSS on 7/8/2009 8:50:26 PM , Rating: 2
yes but this is apple. the only reason i'd even consider buying an apple product is because of the time it lasts on a single charge.

if they've sacrificed even that with the new phone... then why does apple continue to exist?


RE: smart phones
By mattclary on 7/8/2009 9:28:46 PM , Rating: 3
I have a Pearl and just bought an 8310 Curve. Both can last 3-4 days on a charge easy.


RE: smart phones
By ul1ul1ul1 on 7/9/2009 5:14:58 AM , Rating: 2
Issue with most but not all. I charge my Nokia E71 every 10-12 days, with light usage (1h talk a day, occasional 3G/WLAN surfing+GPS).

Even though it looks a bit outdated now, SymbianOS/S60 seems to be well optimized for low-power components, find such phone with a big battery (E71 has 1500mAh) and you'll have a great mobile tool.


RE: smart phones
By AlphaVirus on 7/9/2009 10:38:21 AM , Rating: 2
That is one reason I choose to stick with Symbian, it may be older but being mature in the technology world means optimizations to me. I own a Nokia 5800 and yesterday I browsed the net...almost all day at work and it lasted the entire 8 hours without giving me a battery warning.

I get tired of the argument when it comes to cell phones, "Well XXXX CPU is faster than YYYY" but if the OS does not require all the raw power...why use it. Oh and I multitask heavily on my phone between web browsing, 3G calls, email, txt, and app usage such as IMing.


RE: smart phones
By otispunkmeyer on 7/15/2009 9:46:33 AM , Rating: 2
i have the 5800 XpressMusic too and i have to agree with the battery life. this thing seems to go on an on forever. its got a 400Mhz ARM11 and its plenty responsive too, the google maps app for instance is extremely fluid in use.

i've used the iPlayer app (very good app indeed), GPS, maps, internet etc etc for a good solid day and the battery still had 2 bars. My gf managed to make hers last an entire 3 day weekend on just one bar! its powered by magic im sure.

and even though its a resistive touch screen its really actually not as bad i thought...its pretty trouble free to use with your fingers


RE: smart phones
By EasyC on 7/9/2009 12:18:45 PM , Rating: 2
I have an HTC Touch Pro. I'll charge it at night and listen to music for 60% of the day and do minor web surfing and typical calling/txting. It will be around 20% by the time I go to bed. Not bad for a smartphone.


RE: smart phones
By Smilin on 7/9/2009 12:54:58 PM , Rating: 2
No it's not an issue with most smartphones.

I have a Samsung with windows mobile that's a few years old. It goes about 2 days on a battery while doing the usual: calls, web surfing, constant sync to exchange.

If I swap the slim battery for an extended battery it goes 3-4 days and will sit for about a week if idle. The phone comes with both batteries and you can use whichever one you choose.


RE: smart phones
By Gio6518 on 7/9/2009 11:49:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
my girlfriend bitches about the short battery life on her blackberry. i'm guessing that short battery life is an issue with most smartphones. (compared to your basic mobile phone)


something must be wrong with it because my blackberry curve with heavy usage lasts about 36hrs.

even when if im using the gps for a few hours still lasts at least 24hrs +


Use External Battery
By SpaceJumper on 7/9/2009 10:42:20 AM , Rating: 2
You can buy external battery attachment to increase the talk time. Apple loves to do sell you external attachments for all their products, such as DVD drive for Macbook Air, USB ports, battery, FM radio for iPhone, on and on...
Or you can switch to another brand and forget about all these hassles.




RE: Use External Battery
By Alexstarfire on 7/9/2009 2:45:41 PM , Rating: 1
OMG, are you telling me the iPhone doesn't come with an FM tuner? You've got to be kidding me. Seems like every week I learn something else about the iPhone to make it seem like more of a joke.


RE: Use External Battery
By Gio6518 on 7/9/2009 11:51:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
OMG, are you telling me the iPhone doesn't come with an FM tuner? You've got to be kidding me. Seems like every week I learn something else about the iPhone to make it seem like more of a joke.


cant you just stream pandora


RE: Use External Battery
By Alexstarfire on 7/10/2009 3:33:34 AM , Rating: 2
No idea to be honest. Even if you could, I think it'd drain a lot more battery than an actual FM tuner. It'd be nice to see a comparison between them though.


RE: Use External Battery
By Smilin on 7/10/2009 1:32:06 PM , Rating: 2
Hey shuttup! They can copy/paste now... can your fancy schmancy phone do that?


RE: Use External Battery
By Alexstarfire on 7/10/2009 1:42:23 PM , Rating: 2
Is that sarcasm? Cause I've had copy and past for years. Only thing I don't believe I can copy and paste is a picture/video. I don't have a smartphone so that's really not a big deal if I can't.


RE: Use External Battery
By Smilin on 7/13/2009 10:57:25 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah that was sarcasm. This is serious though:

The iPhone sucks because you can't use it after eating Cheetos.


RE: Use External Battery
By otispunkmeyer on 7/15/2009 9:52:52 AM , Rating: 2
im a big apple fan, but i have to say i really hate the way they advertise things like this...

i mean the advert makes a big deal of copy and paste like its the holy frickin grail, like apple themselves created this epically useful function and have been generous enough to let the unwashed masses use it.

but in reality copy n paste has been on the last 3-4 mobile phones i've had. and as i dont change very often thats a good couple of years.

they lag miles behind in function sometimes, and when they finally catch up they push it like they got there first. its annoying.

same with the video function... its a useless function on every phone i think but dayum, i cant remember the last camera phone i used that couldnt record video and its taken apple 3 generations of the iphone and its software to implement!!


RE: Use External Battery
By Chocobollz on 7/14/2009 11:13:41 AM , Rating: 2
Who cares/need a radio anyway? If you want to listen to radio, you don't need an iPhone. You can always buy a separate FM tuner for $1 anyway, so why complaints?


GPS
By Proxes on 7/8/2009 9:21:08 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe it's like the Palm Pre. With the GPS turned on the battery dies quickly. I've even had mine lose battery while it was charging! Not via USB but plugging into a wall outlet. First night I had it, plugged it in at 41% and when I woke up it was at 9%.

Now I keep GPS turn off when I'm not using it and it's never happened again.




RE: GPS
By leexgx on 7/8/2009 11:02:50 PM , Rating: 2
thats poor really does the charger provide 1amp or 500ma , as both my HTC and g1 use 1A chargers


RE: GPS
By Complex Pants on 7/9/2009 12:15:05 AM , Rating: 3
the stock charger you get from palm is 5V, 1A. I couldn't be much happier with my pre. The battery life does suffer if you use push and GPS especially. I have turned GPS off, and have the pre auto check every 10 mins.

On a typical day starting at 9 am, but the time I get home from work around 5-6 pm, I will have ~40% of my battery left with moderate use through the day. This is in moderately poor signal area. I have never experienced the battery draining while plugged in. Maybe it was a loose connection.


Translation
By rs1 on 7/8/2009 8:01:31 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Apple had long warned that running multiple applications would cripple the iPhone's battery


What they really mean is:

Apple's engineers had a difficult time coming with with a thread/process management and scheduling component that actually works as intended prior to the initial release of the IPhone. And now, over two years later, they still haven't figured it out. Either that or they just can't be bothered with it because all their development resources are being thrown at making the phone "sexier", and process management is only sexy to nerds.




It happened to me
By macrogeek on 7/9/2009 9:15:34 AM , Rating: 3
I got a 3GS by Fedex on launch day to replace my 1st gen iPhone.
After about 4 days I noticed that the battery life was poor. I have several co-workers with 3G and 3GS, and we compared battery life.

My charge would last maybe 8 hours with light use, using maybe 45min to an hour of iPod audio. Turning off 3G and Bluetooth didn't help. Every day when I got home I was at 10-20% battery warning.

I called Apple, they replaced it. The new one works way better. I can run all day, using web, e-mail, iPod (several hours a day) and I'm usually at 50-60% left when I get home.

I did have to argue a little with Apple to get an advance replacement instead of sending the unit for service. But they ended up waiving the advance replacement fee.




RE: It happened to me
By Shadowself on 7/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: It happened to me
By macrogeek on 7/9/2009 3:31:02 PM , Rating: 2
The advance replacement fee is mainly to cover the overnight shipping cost. I think it was $29 to overnight the new phone to me and the old one back to them. They waived it at my request. I had to give a credit card in case I never returned the broken one, but they didn't charge it.

It was pretty painless, new phone showed up with instructions on how to backup, swap SIM's and resync. There was a padded envelope, box and return fedex label.

I was mad that it happened, and that the support guy tried to get the $29 out of me, but honestly, I'm really happy with the phone and how smoothly support went after the phone call was done.

Oh, and they said you can't take the phone back to an AT&T store, all iPod and iPhone warranty and replacement claims have to be done via the phone number, or an Apple Store.

Anyway, I'm really happy with the new one, it works great.


Uh oh...
By DigitalFreak on 7/8/2009 6:54:20 PM , Rating: 2
More problems for the Jesus Phone.




RE: Uh oh...
By ImSpartacus on 7/8/2009 7:03:03 PM , Rating: 2
I know. I usually try to think that Apple puts out a quality product, but nothing's set in stone.

I think I would still get an iPhone if it came to Verizon.


From Blog to Article in 3 hours
By MatthiasF on 7/8/2009 7:10:44 PM , Rating: 2
What happened, Mick? Not enough people read your obsessive Apple blog posts so you're going to start moving them over to be an article when you don't get enough attention?

For everyone else, this "article" was in the Blog section at 3:40ish and no one was commenting.




RE: From Blog to Article in 3 hours
By Lakku on 7/8/09, Rating: 0
By MatthiasF on 7/9/2009 2:27:32 PM , Rating: 2
Jason Mick is far from being a journalist. And no, I think you're confusing a journalist with a sensationalist reporter. There's a huge difference.


2g connection should be more stable
By leexgx on 7/8/2009 10:59:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As a last resort you can also turn off 3G and switch to the older EDGE network, which the first generation iPhone used. That, however, will likely decrease both browsing speeds and reception quality.


why does it affect reception quality been on 2G only as all cell towers are 2g/GSM towers and a lot support 3g as well (there are far more 2g/gsm towers then 3g), alot of phones hang onto an 3g signal that is Not there or Switch towers offen when on 3g that runs the bat down and can make missed calls as well, at least i get 2 days out of my HTC phone my G1 google phone is more like an iphone battery wise

be happy you even have EDGE as both of my phones only connect to GPRS (Orange HTC somes times once an week finds an EDGE tower, T-mobile must not support EDGE in the UK)

as i have found on my HTC Touch HD phone using 2g/gsm only extends bat life and makes sure i can allways receive an incoming call if my head set(BT Motorola) is beeping that i know i have no network coverage so i move the phone to where it does, where as when its set to 3g the G1 would ring even thought my HTC Phone says i have coverage (my orange phone Diverts to my G1 when my HTC is not connectible/no signal)

under norm use its best to keep the phone on 2g only wireless off and BT as well (unless your useing an Headset that works with the iphone)

its was an bit of an Joke my provider saying my phone the HTC Touch HD can stay on for 14 days standby at best it lasts 2 days and thats only BT on my older C500 or m500 lasts longer (3-4 days under norm use), why does HTC/Others keep on fitting bats that are To small 1100/1200mAh not enough for an smartphone thay need to be more like 2000mha




By Alexstarfire on 7/9/2009 2:30:59 AM , Rating: 2
Standby means turned on with all power saving options turned on, like no BT, 3G, etc. In other words, just checking your phone to see what time it is takes it out of standby. That being said, my SE phone can last for about a week at 60% or so charge. I don't check the time on it much and my calls are usually kept pretty short. I've always been impressed with SEs battery life though.


x iPhone
By lenzo on 7/9/2009 12:30:53 AM , Rating: 2
My spouse had one for 3 days.
First day the battery lasted 2 hours.
An overnight charge later allowed her to use it another 2 hours. Another overnight charge, the phone wouldn't turn on at all the next day.
Gotta love the new technology.
She went back to Motorola.




RE: x iPhone
By Gyres01 on 7/14/2009 12:37:47 PM , Rating: 2
I settled for a Samsung Impression and can go days on a single charge and that with music, internet and an actual phone call once in awhile...plus OLED screen is very nice !!


By Exterous on 7/9/2009 12:22:59 PM , Rating: 3
This cellphone has great battery life....if you don't use all of the features
*Turns on phone*
This is a classic example of a feature. We call it 'On.' Unfortunately having your phone in 'On' mode will decrease the battery life




Pirks
By Rhl on 7/8/2009 7:15:45 PM , Rating: 2
Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkssssss!

Piiiirks... Piiiiirks...

*Michael Jackson's "Thriller" starts playing*




I'ts OS 3.0...
By xenos123 on 7/8/2009 9:22:55 PM , Rating: 2
Several friends have noticed significantly shorter battery life since OS 3.0, that has to be it...




This is what you get...
By mattclary on 7/8/2009 9:24:44 PM , Rating: 2
...when Steve Jobs takes a few months off.

;)




I found something odd...
By dcguy73 on 7/8/2009 10:09:15 PM , Rating: 2
I bought the 3gs when it first came out and it was unusually warm and the battery wasn't quite lasting long. I poked around and noticed the timer was running and it looks like it had been running a long time. I turned it off and the heat and battery life improved.

I mentioned it to a friend who also bought a 3gs. He was complaining about the same problems and sure enough, the time on his was running, and it looks like it had been running a long time.

I know a timer wouldn't take up much proc time but its just a thought.




www.dailyiphone.com
By Zensen on 7/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: www.dailyiphone.com
By Dark Legion on 7/9/2009 4:31:35 AM , Rating: 2
Well, Brandon has his "Daily Hardware Reviews", Mick has his daily Apple article. (which tend to only be problems these days)


By Sazabi19 on 7/9/2009 10:31:13 AM , Rating: 2
iPhone - It just dies.




IPOD Touch
By renoir2098 on 7/9/2009 12:44:28 PM , Rating: 2
My wife and I have the exact same problem with our second generation IPOD Touch. She kept coming to me complaining about the battery not lasting very long after we updated to the 3.0 firmware. I have checked to verify and we have both Bluetooth and WIFI turned off.

Hopefully they will quickly find what is soaking up the battery and release an update.




This is nothing new
By HrilL on 7/9/2009 1:05:27 PM , Rating: 2
The old 3G phone had the same battery problems with short life. First off the screen by default is set way to bright.
This alone gave me more than an extra hour of usage or so. In the direct sun its a little hard to see but I've never complained though others that use my phone always say turn the brightness up. You must turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off as well and turning 3G off is also a must in most cases. Even with everything else turned off and the brightness down with 3G on you'll get 1 day of battery life MAX. With it off you'll get around 3 days MAX.

This is with push on because I have exchange email going to my phone I need that on. But I still get longer battery life than my siblings who do not have push because they don't turn down the brightness. Indoors its completely fine just direct sunlight makes it hard to see. And you can always turn it up if you really need to see a picture or something better while outside.

3.0 is partly to blame for sure. I've noticed by battery life go down since installing it. Lost about an hour of usage time (video/talk) and about 3-4 hours of idle time. So maybe the added push notification plus the exchange ones are the cause of this. Though the OS seems slower and apps load slower. But Safari crashes a lot less so that alone is worth it. Wish 3rd party browsers were allowed. Firefox on a mobile would kick ass.




By Maxima2k2se on 7/9/2009 3:26:26 PM , Rating: 2
Wonder if we will see any <insert name smart phone here> VS iphone ads like Mac VS PC so all of apples faults in their product can be brought to light to the masses. Oh wait it must be user error..... Keep it in an AC environment and don't try to listen to more then 2 songs, make 5 phone calls and 1 app DL per charge! ALL of this is actually in the READ THIS FIRST section in fine print of the instructions.




iGhost
By Spookster on 7/9/2009 7:15:23 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe an iGhost is manifesting itself near the phones and draining the battery. Happens all the time to the TAPS Ghost Hunters on SyFy channel.




Show me one!
By basbrian on 7/9/2009 5:50:00 PM , Rating: 1
I love these articles bashing Apple for issues that I have never experienced (sounds like the RNC). In short, I just took a 3GS 32G through a business trip. I ran 3G (no WiFi) the whole time with no issues with signal strength or switching to EDGE (never happened). I was thoroughly impressed.

In 5 days of work, I pushed and pulled 256 MB over 3G including my exchange, hotmail, video, files, etc. I played several games (downtime), and spent a minimum of an hour of talk-time each day using a plantronics bluetooth headset (significant for a dude, maybe not a chick).

The point: I had no performance issues, no ever-heating, and the battery life would hit 16 hours easily doing all of this... and I am not the only one. I have a half a dozen co-workers that have 3GS iPhones... no issues with theirs either. FYI this was the DFW and NE areas.

C'mon give me some proof or statistics guys! Not this... "Apple sucks! He He!".




I believe it is 3.0 fault
By BrgMx5 on 7/8/09, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it is 3.0 fault
By Alexstarfire on 7/9/2009 2:33:00 AM , Rating: 2
And is years behind the likes of SE, even 2-3 year old phones they have, and many other phone brands that aren't readily available in the US.


RE: I believe it is 3.0 fault
By sxr7171 on 7/9/2009 4:01:06 AM , Rating: 2
You are stupid to say they aren't available in the US. Heck Amazon sells them. We know all about them. Some stupid dumbphone with some hyped up camera that can't hold a candle to a $100 point and shoot.


RE: I believe it is 3.0 fault
By Alexstarfire on 7/9/2009 6:28:39 AM , Rating: 2
I said readily available for a reason. You can't really buy them in retail stores. Some carry crappy models, like ATT has the W590 (I think that's the right model). I bought my SE phone on the net as well. Yea, real cameras don't hold a candle, but I really wanted an all-in-one device instead of 3 or more different ones. Great for me since I didn't have an MP3 player or a camera. If I did, I would have probably just got a different SE phone. The X1 supposedly has amazing battery life, though I've never actually used one before.


RE: I believe it is 3.0 fault
By robinthakur on 7/10/2009 8:49:01 AM , Rating: 2
The X1 does have an amazing battery life but sadly an abortion of an OS. Had mine for a day, returned it and got an iPhone 3GS like I should have done to begin with. Very happy now.


RE: I believe it is 3.0 fault
By BrgMx5 on 7/9/2009 12:47:10 PM , Rating: 2
SE??? Come on, i had two that didn't last 6 months, before the problems arrived. The software is complicated and the reception is about the worse (on par with battery life in a motorola)


By Alexstarfire on 7/9/2009 3:04:21 PM , Rating: 2
You must be unlucky, because all the ones I've ever used last forever and have better reception that my friends phones. As for the software.... matter of choice I suppose. It's not as elegant as touchscreens since they don't have the same display space, but it's far better than most. I rarely have to go into the actual menu, only for the rare occasions I need a calculator, a memo, or to change a setting. Everything I use regularly is a shortcut: music, camera, texting, radio, and even web if I so choose. I think that actually leaves a shortcut or two open for me.

Maybe I've just been lucky. Who knows.


Lol haters
By Soldier1969 on 7/9/09, Rating: -1
RE: Lol haters
By PhoenixKnight on 7/9/2009 1:26:54 PM , Rating: 2
What about all the people who are on this site posting saying about how their iPhones have short battery life and all of my friends who have noticed significantly shorter battery life after upgrading to 3.0 OS? Or are they all lying and involved in some massive conspiracy to discredit Apple.


RE: Lol haters
By robinthakur on 7/10/09, Rating: 0
RE: Lol haters
By Alexstarfire on 7/10/2009 1:44:23 PM , Rating: 2
Ummmm, lol?!?

Glad you like your phone. Too bad it still can't do everything my 3+ year old phone can do, nor last as long.


Not affecting the majority though...
By andreschmidt on 7/9/09, Rating: -1
By InternetGeek on 7/9/2009 6:19:45 AM , Rating: 3
So under your view the iPhone is a 'look but don't touch' device.

It can run apps, but not too many.
It can make calls, but not too many.
It just works, but just not too much.


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