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The creators of Wii Beer Pong and founders of JV Games, Jag Jaeger, left, and Vince Valenti pose here at their Las Vegas office. They insist their intention was just to make a clean, fun sports game for people of all ages, unrelated to alcohol  (Source: Las Vegas Sun)

A Screenshot of the new game shows the game to have many of the features of real life college beer pong -- cups, scantily clad 20-somethings, and poor coordination.  (Source: JV Games)

Real life game of beer pong, as illustrated on Wikipedia. Beer pong for decades has been a staple of college life, particularly among fraternities.  (Source: Wikipedia)
Where's Jack Thompson when you need him

Somewhere in the dark recesses of disbarment, Jack Thompson's blood must be boiling.  And he's not the only one.  Video game censorship advocates nationwide have caught onto, what they class as a "disturbing" new video game for the world's most popular next generation video game system, the Nintendo Wii.

Certainly, the system has developed a reputation as appealing to all ages -- be they young or old -- but is known to be especially warmly received by the youngsters (and their parents).

That same Wii is now home to a curious new title that takes advantage of the Wii's motion sensing controls to offer up a time-honored competitive tradition that you won't be seeing in a Wii Sports pack anytime soon -- beer pong. 

Beer pong, also known as beirut, lob pong, or many other names is a wildly popular college drinking game.  It involves making a triangle of filled beer cups on each side of the table.  Each team then takes terms bouncing ping pong balls at the other team’s cups.  If the ball goes in, the other team has to chug the cup of beer.  The winning team is the first to eliminate the others cups.  The losing team has to chug the winners' remaining cups.

Wikipedia describes the necessary assets of a successful beer ponger as having a knack for aiming, taunting, and sexual gestures.

Among its fans it is just like any other team sport, supporting comradery, fun, and perhaps a bit of friendly competition.  To its detractors it has fueled college alcohol abuse.  The AP has run pieces citing beer pong as a factor in several alcohol related deaths.

This month, a new game entitled "Frat Party Games: Beer Pong" made by indie developer JV Games is scheduled to be released for the Wii.  The game squeaked by with an ESRB Teen rating, which is where the controversy began.  "T" rated games can be sold to minors as young as 13.  Enraged parents feared that their teenagers would buy this game and it would fuel underage drinking.

Carrie Haugan, mother of two, is among these critics.  She states, "We don't need to teach kids to drink, you know, get ready for drinking games. They'll start drinking earlier maybe."

The ESRB board disagrees.  There is no alcohol in cups in the game, just a simple dexterity game fueled by throwing skills.  They say the game had no connection to promoting drinking.

Faced with wild criticism, Nintendo stepped in and had some choice words with JV Games.  The developers have now agreed to change the name to "Pong Toss" from "Beer Pong".  Vince Valenti, cofounder of JV Games references this riff stating, "We had a little discussion with Nintendo and there were some angry parties."

The developers insist that the spirit is to simply recreate the game without focusing on the alcohol.  The other cofounder Jag Jaeger states, "Well, we didn’t want to make it an exactly lifelike game.  We made it simpler, so anyone could play, from an 8-year-old to an 80-year-old."

Some are not convinced by the new title or the developer's insistence that their intentions are pure.  Unsurprisingly, Carrie Haugan is among these harden critics.  She states, "Well, they know it's a drinking game. It'll encourage drinking."

Typically, it’s violence in video games that gets them a perhaps unjustly bad rap.  Recently, two teenagers killed the younger sister of one of the teens allegedly simulating moves from the game mortal combat.  Video game critics have long tried to link violence and video games, though some studies have shown that violent video games actually have no effect on real life violent tendencies and have numerous beneficial effects

Now video game critics have found a new whipping boy -- Wii Party Games: Pong Toss and its alleged promotion of underage drinking.



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Pretty sad...
By TheNuts on 7/10/2008 12:46:02 PM , Rating: 5
I am 35 yrs old and have a 14yr old daughter. I have been having an annual summer party for the past 14 years. The party usually draws around 80-90 people of which are adults and kids.

One of the traditions is beer pong. My friends and I play for quite awhile. On breaks, my daughter and her friends fill their cups with Kool-Aid and play against each other. I have brought my daughter up to the best of my ability and have taught her decent morals. She is in 9th grade now and has made the honor roll every year she has been in school. She is very involved in sports as well as the community. And best of all, has common sense.

Like I said, I let her and her friends play "Kool-aid" pong in between our beer pong breaks (with different cups, obviously). To see how she has been around "real" beer pong for many, many years and has turned out to be a pretty darn good kid and to have people freak out that a stupid game emulates "real" like, is just obsurd.

I am sure there are many, many other kids out there with a sense of decency to understand what is right and wrong. I believe it is all about the parenting as I have shown by raising my daughter. Unfortuanetly, there are bad parents out there who don't give a rats ass about the way they bring up their children and make it bad for the "good" ones who have some common sense




RE: Pretty sad...
By FingerMeElmo87 on 7/10/2008 1:48:05 PM , Rating: 3
PREACH BROTHA NUTS!!!!!


RE: Pretty sad...
By Jimbo1234 on 7/10/2008 2:00:11 PM , Rating: 5
Just wait until she's in college. The Kool-Aid will quicky be replaced with Vodka. Been there done that. Those 4.0 honor role girls are the biggest drinkers out there. At least at UW-Madison they were.


RE: Pretty sad...
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: Pretty sad...
By bobcpg on 7/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: Pretty sad...
By shaw on 7/10/2008 5:54:54 PM , Rating: 3
In this day of age it isn't the beer that makes your GPA drop in college, it's too much World of Warcraft.


RE: Pretty sad...
By comc49 on 7/10/2008 6:45:36 PM , Rating: 2
yah, my sat prep teacher used to go to cal tech and she said many students drop out because of WOW. i was like wtf then how did they get in cal tech if they play WOW??


RE: Pretty sad...
By Complex Pants on 7/13/2008 1:01:41 AM , Rating: 4
As a Caltech grad (2005) I can say that before WoW, there was DaOC and Counter Strike, and yes people did flunk out because of it. You have to understand that the people at Caltech got in because for the most part high school was very easy and the SAT's were a joke. During high school they had a lot of free time to play games and such. When Caltech starts piling on the Quantum Mechanics (required for all undergrads) and you have to ditch your games for work, some old habits die hard.

At Caltech, drugs and alcohol rarely cause you to fail out. It is commonly video games and just not caring about doing your homework. Also remember we get a fair number of 13 year olds.


RE: Pretty sad...
By wrekd on 7/10/2008 7:38:46 PM , Rating: 2
All they need to do is release a field sobriety test for the Wii Fit board. Then they'll know when they've had too much to drink...er something.


RE: Pretty sad...
By TheNuts on 7/11/2008 2:02:22 PM , Rating: 2
That's not the point here. They are talking about the promotion of underage drinking here. When my daughter is in college, I can only hope any pray that I have instilled enough common sense and morals for her to do the "right" thing. I am not naive enough to believe that she is a perfect daughter that can do no wrong. Hell, I was kicked out of college because of my bad grades due to partying every night.

The point being, I feel, children sbeing brought up by good parenting have a better chance in society and have the knowledge to make smart choices and not play a stupid video game and want to run out and get wasted emulating the game


RE: Pretty sad...
By pomaikai on 7/10/2008 2:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with the name change or an adult rating. Nintendo took the right steps and made them change the name. There is nothing wrong with the game itself, but a game named "Beer Pong" should not be sold to kids. Like you said the kids at your party are playing "kool-aid" pong not beer pong.

About the parenting part. Once a year party like that is fine. The problems are the parents who are always drinking and partying. The kids see that as normal everyday life and will start drinking and partying the first chance they get.


RE: Pretty sad...
By Clauzii on 7/10/2008 6:01:33 PM , Rating: 2
"The problems are the parents who are always drinking and partying."

So true..


RE: Pretty sad...
By rdeegvainl on 7/11/2008 8:33:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
There is nothing wrong with the game itself

quote:
but a game named "Beer Pong" should not be sold to kids.


/Facepalm
So what, the word beer makes it now not suitable for kids. So we shouldn't sell root beer to kids? There is nothing wrong with root beer itself. It's the name and not the content right?


RE: Pretty sad...
By 67STANG on 7/10/2008 2:27:31 PM , Rating: 5
Wait a minute, I thought only people who buy Apple products drink Kool-aid....


RE: Pretty sad...
By winterspan on 7/10/2008 6:35:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, My friends and I were playing "real" beer pong when we were 14, and drank on the weekends throughout highschool. Of course, my parents didn't really know :). Anyways, I ended up with a 3.8 GPA and got into a first-rate university.

In highschool, my friends and I didn't drink and drive, and despite lots of alcohol being consumed and a lot of juvenile behavior, we were responsible and looked out for each other and no one was ever killed or badly injured as a result of alcohol.

Now of course there were (are) many kids, even in their senior year of highschool who were not mature enough to handle drinking alcohol. But I don't believe "underage drinking" itself is the problem, it's all about individual responsibility and maturity.

Instead of ignoring the issue and pretending their children are going to always be playing board games on the weekend, Parents should address the issue of alcohol and underage drinking in a responsible, open manner. I'm not condoning every parent allow their children to drink alcohol, I'm saying they need to be realistic about the issue considering many kids are going to drink no matter what and they need to teach their kids about responsibility and safety, particularly regarding the dangers of drinking and driving, alcohol poisoning, drugs, etc.

I saw firsthand how ignorance and denial on the part of parents could create bad situations, where some kids would go to parties and drive home when they'd been drinking because the parents wouldn't allow the kids to stay overnight at other's homes in the frivolous attempt to keep their kids "out of trouble". Apparently, they though their kids would be "safer" or less likely to get into trouble if they had to always come home at night. Well, all that did was make them drive home AFTER they had been drinking! Instead, they could have stayed over at the friends house and been much safer than trying to "sober up" to drive home!

I don't have all the answers, I'm just sharing...


RE: Pretty sad...
By flydian on 7/10/2008 7:26:47 PM , Rating: 5
"Now of course there were (are) many kids, even in their senior year of highschool who were not mature enough to handle drinking alcohol. But I don't believe "underage drinking" itself is the problem, it's all about individual responsibility and maturity."

Agreed! I was one of those immature ones (though I didn't know it at the time, of course). I made some stupid choices that had an adverse effect on my life for quite a while. Yet I don't blame Beer Pong, or frat parties, or Halloween 1987 at UCSB (WOOO!), or even alcohol in general. I actually blame MYSELF for making those choices!

OMFG! Personal responsibility? Here? Now? Unpossible!


RE: Pretty sad...
By nunya on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Pretty sad...
By Chris Simmo on 7/11/2008 3:17:20 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, from what I have noticed is the protective parents that blame everything but themselves have rotten kids, and the kids turn out to be pricks, often thinking they are better then everyone else! You go crook at the kids when they do something wrong. If its always someone or something else fault, then you can't be a particularly good parent, and in the process of complaining, ruin it for everyone else


Wii finally getting interesting
By Lord 666 on 7/10/2008 11:55:05 AM , Rating: 5
With that controller, could only imagine the next title; Wii Master Baiter.




By MrBlastman on 7/10/2008 12:01:06 PM , Rating: 2
FuFme beat Nintendo to the punch... :(

Perhaps they'll come up with an interface for the wii?


RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By vapore0n on 7/10/2008 12:57:14 PM , Rating: 3
too late

womens like the vibration quality of the wiimote


RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By srue on 7/10/2008 7:32:49 PM , Rating: 2
Sure there is. Try your hand .


RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By JonnyDough on 7/11/2008 4:12:20 AM , Rating: 5
Spoken like a true virgin! I think you're a horny little boy. Go lock yourself in the bathroom with one of your sister's Ken dolls and educate yourself!


RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 7/11/2008 12:04:44 PM , Rating: 2
be afraid, be very afraid....
I not sure where you are going with that statement JohnnyDough. Lot of possibilities comes to mind, none of them good. Lot's of horrible images come to mind as well and, and, and well I just don't want to talk about it anymore. I think it is very possible you are one very sick and twisted monkey....impressive. :)


RE: Wii finally getting interesting
By JonnyDough on 7/11/2008 1:48:36 PM , Rating: 2
I'd rather he go trying to get into the pants of guys than my girlfriend's pants. The last thing she needs is another possessed guy following her around. She's seen enough of those, that's why she's with me now. Nothing is worse for a woman than a guy who's never been laid and "just has to have her." Too many men think they're all that. I wish society was a bit more like the good old days when if a man insulted your woman you had every legal right to beat him up, or down, if you prefer. What he wrote was pretty crass, lame, and showed a level of immaturity that I'm not sure I care to witness again.


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 7/11/2008 2:57:45 PM , Rating: 2
sure understood, Of course you know the Ken doll does not have the correct parts - so looks just the same as barbie on the lower half. This could lead to all kind of mental issues.. :)
I believe you still can knock someone block off for an insult. I would suggest you have several witnesses to the whole event. People tend to be less sue happy when they realize a group of people thinks what he did was a jacka** move.


By Screwballl on 7/10/2008 4:40:32 PM , Rating: 3
I think they already have that, isn't it a fishing game? =D


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 7/11/2008 12:12:17 PM , Rating: 2
Can not use that name. Master Baiter is the name of a bait shop in Florida....I forget the exact location, but he's on-line. Claims he sees more shirts and mugs then bait (per his website).


Wow, what have we become
By 325hhee on 7/10/2008 11:56:45 AM , Rating: 5
Are people so much into their games, and so anti-social, that they need to put out a game like this? Beer pong is a game that is played with friends, and how much money does it cost to set it up, 3 cans of beer and 12 cups?

It's sad to think someone needs to make a video game of this, what next a game for paper foot ball, you know the one where two people plays, you make a goal post with your finger, and on the other end someone flicks a piece of paper. Geez, this is just plain sad, certain things don't need a video game, just real people, this and beer pong are two perfect examples.




RE: Wow, what have we become
By Lord 666 on 7/10/2008 11:59:32 AM , Rating: 5
Midget bowling and cow tipping are some other ideas.


RE: Wow, what have we become
By Denithor on 7/16/2008 3:52:57 PM , Rating: 2
Rock - Paper - Scissors

Lawn Darts

Dwarf Tossing


RE: Wow, what have we become
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Wow, what have we become
By FingerMeElmo87 on 7/10/2008 1:44:54 PM , Rating: 2
its subliminal marketing by beer companies


RE: Wow, what have we become
By afkrotch on 7/11/2008 6:44:00 AM , Rating: 2
You want to know what a stupid game is? I ran across some paintball game on the PC. So you are playing simulated paintball game. Paintball somewhat simulated on warfare. They could have just cut that all out and bought Call of Duty or something.


RE: Wow, what have we become
By Digimonkey on 7/11/2008 8:17:30 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with you...except on this game. I think they are doing everyone a favor. Obviously you can still play this with a group of people, and play it with real beer. This is just a more sanitized method. Honestly you don't know where other peoples hands have been...especially in college.


RE: Wow, what have we become
By winterspan on 7/12/2008 11:10:41 PM , Rating: 2
"what next a game for paper foot ball, you know the one where two people plays, you make a goal post with your finger, and on the other end someone flicks a piece of paper. Geez, this is just..."

HAHAH! they have a paper football game in the iPhone App store on iTunes!


RE: Wow, what have we become
By bldckstark on 7/14/2008 12:23:14 PM , Rating: 2
You know, the football game can be sick and twisted too. I take people out from time to time for work and usually we go to a "nudie" bar after dinner. While there I teach the foreigners to make the paper footballs with a dollar bill and "kick" them from the table up onto the stage.

Often the dancers will lay on their back and spread their legs like goal posts. The dancers tell me they would rather do this than rub themselves on people.

I came up with this idea because I am extremely bored in these joints, and it creates a little fun.


By shortylickens on 8/3/2008 8:33:36 PM , Rating: 1
You know what else they have?
A game that actually recreates the clubbing experience in Vegas.
I shit you not.
You go out, dance, and hit on chicks.
Thats it, thats the game.


Yes, let's blame the games
By Polynikes on 7/10/2008 12:03:18 PM , Rating: 5
Guess what, parents. Your kids may be legally able to buy this game, but that doesn't mean you MUST ALLOW THEM TO. They're your kids, your responsibility; you decide what they play and watch.

Stop being so lazy and be more proactive in parenting. Pay attention to what your kids do. Make sure they don't do things you consider bad.




By rippleyaliens on 7/10/2008 1:58:17 PM , Rating: 3
You know.. you took the words out of my mind....

This society today just killss me.. Parents of today, are soooo quick to blame , nintento, or microsoft or sony. ME, well my son knows who the hulk is.. so far i have 1-xbox regular, 3 keyboards, 1 sony psp, and a number of bedroom visits by "Hulk SMASH".. My son wants to say no.. BOOM, no it is... He says stop hulk smashing , and i say, Noo...

It is like kids are in more control than ever..


RE: Yes, let's blame the games
By Alias1431 on 7/10/2008 2:37:44 PM , Rating: 1
"Guess what, parents. Your kids may be legally able to buy this game, but that doesn't mean..." that we actually will. This game looks boring as shit!


RE: Yes, let's blame the games
By Polynikes on 7/10/2008 3:12:11 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, (especially since I'd rather play it for real) but the argument applies to all games that parents may not like.


It's not beer pong...
By blaster5k on 7/10/2008 12:51:19 PM , Rating: 1
... It's Beirut. Unless there are paddles in this game that I'm not seeing anyway. Beirut != Beer Pong. Similar, but different.




RE: It's not beer pong...
By spwrozek on 7/10/2008 1:06:37 PM , Rating: 2
Depends where you are from. My friends in Cali call it Beirut. In the Midwest it is beer pong. Different strokes for different folks.


RE: It's not beer pong...
By baseball43v3r on 7/10/2008 2:12:38 PM , Rating: 2
hmmm i've never heard Beirut, and i'm from Cali. its only called beer pong here, and the different versions of the rules are named after schools.


RE: It's not beer pong...
By Spivonious on 7/10/2008 2:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
It's beer pong over in the Northeast too.


RE: It's not beer pong...
By blaster5k on 7/10/2008 6:26:47 PM , Rating: 2
I went to a consistent top ten party school in the northeast. Anyone calling it "beer pong" was given heck for calling it that since "beer pong" is really a different (and older) game. That doesn't stop people from using it, even though it causes some confusion as to what game you're talking about.


who would win
By tastyratz on 7/10/2008 12:00:07 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
"We made it simpler, so anyone could play, from an 8-year-old to an 80-year-old."


So in the spirit of underage drinking... if said 8 year old and 80 year old were to engage in a game of beer pong who would hold their liquor and endurance of dexterity long enough to be declared the winner?

oh the memories to form bonding with grandma




RE: who would win
By FITCamaro on 7/10/2008 12:09:18 PM , Rating: 2
Hey. It gets kids to spend time with their elders. :)


Sad.
By StevoLincolnite on 7/10/2008 12:01:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Carrie Haugan, mother of two, is among these critics. She states, "We don't need to teach kids to drink, you know, get ready for drinking games. They'll start drinking earlier maybe."


Simple way to fix that, don't let your children play it, if every sensible parent did that, there wouldn't be a problem.
At the age of 13 and higher, children are more influenced by friends than they are by parents though, but with a strong foot, and not letting your children do whatever that desire I don't see it as being a problem.

Heck I would probably rather my kids play this game, than GTAIV, or Soldier of Fortune 2.




RE: Sad.
By walk2k on 7/10/2008 1:49:46 PM , Rating: 2
Don't be ridiculous. Parents aren't responsible for what their children do! The media is!

But seriously, I fail to see how this game promotes "underage" drinking any more than 8000 beer commercials per hour on TV do, which last time I checked do not have an age limit.


RE: Sad.
By pomaikai on 7/10/2008 3:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
Here is there point of view. "Society cant control the parents, no one can. It is impossible to force a parent who doesnt care to actually care. The only thing we can do is to keep those things from being released. We have implemented the whole rating system, but honestly there are parents who will still buy there kids M rated games because they just dont care."

Seriously, who is right? We can stop these things from being released since we cant control the parents and keep them from buying it for thre kids, but we cant just force all the kids to stay in the dark about everything because then they wont be able to understand and cope with the real world.

The problem is every sensible parent will do what is best, but what about the parents who arent sensible? Should we just let them screw up there kids?

Sorry but there is no simple fix. There is no black and white. Everything is grey. Thou shalt not kill, except for policemen and the army because they help people who hurt others or if someone threatens you with a weapon or breaks into you house then its ok, or....

We need a system that will only allow sensible parents to buy these games.


Anyone else notice..
By DASQ on 7/10/2008 12:36:34 PM , Rating: 3
Jag Jaeger and Vince Valenti?

Their NAMES make them sound like college doofuses/cheap porn stars.




RE: Anyone else notice..
By afkrotch on 7/11/2008 6:49:22 AM , Rating: 2
I wasn't even looking at their names. Their picture makes them look like a college doofus.


There isn't a controversy here
By Rodney McNaggerton on 7/10/2008 10:49:03 PM , Rating: 1
Most Americans get together to drink anyways. It goes like this. In other countries people get together and there are drinks there. In America people come for the drinks, and the social interaction with other people comes second. It's an American past time, being drunk. We need to stop pussyfooting around it. That no drinking under 21 regulation doesn't stop anything.




By Digimonkey on 7/11/2008 8:33:39 AM , Rating: 2
If that was true there would be a lot more people staying home and drinking. I mean if that's the main goal why hassle with the time it takes to get dressed up, get your friends together and drive to a club/bar?

I believe American's just can't handle their liquor as well or responsibly as others because we don't start drinking until late. A lot of European countries start drinking in early teens, but it's not a big deal there because the parents allow it. It gets dangerous when the teenage kid goes out drinking with buddies. Not only does that teenager have to get home safely, but will also probably be coaxed into over consumption by friends.


I can just see it now...
By MrBlastman on 7/10/2008 12:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
Lawsuits against Nintendo for creating a non-drinking friendly environment for their Wii which lead to broken TV's, sprained ankles and smashed wii-motes.

Everyone knows friends don't let friends play with their wii drunk. ;)

Que the Lawyers in 3... 2... 1...




By dare2savefreedom on 7/10/2008 12:31:48 PM , Rating: 2
anandi tech / daily tech less beer pong please:

>>Each team then takes terms bouncing ping pong balls

Now i know why there are so many spelling/grammar errors from this site - too too much beer pong being play too too much.




What about Game Party?
By spwrozek on 7/10/2008 1:12:37 PM , Rating: 2
Why did this not come up with Midway came out with Game Party? One of the 9 games is called Ping Cup and it is essentially Beer Pong. 10 cups and throw the ball in. You can't pick up 2 on the bounce or play last cup corner or air ball and drink but we all knew it was Beer Pong from the moment we saw it.




already a game with this in it
By Screwballl on 7/10/2008 2:28:49 PM , Rating: 2
and I own it... it is called "Party Games" for the Wii
Granted the cups just disappear but it is in the game... so why does this one have the "E" for everyone rating?




Easy Fix
By lightfoot on 7/10/2008 2:53:11 PM , Rating: 2
If you're afraid that your kids will buy this game and start drinking...

The easy fix is to STOP buying your kids the beer!

Why does the game have to be illegal if the alcohol already is??




This already exists
By sinclaj1 on 7/10/2008 3:01:04 PM , Rating: 2
Wii already has a "beer pong" game, it's in the title Wii Game Party. Doesn't show alcohol though and I doubt anyone would consider the animated audience as being "scantilly clad".




By Tanclearas on 7/11/2008 8:51:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Each team then takes terms bouncing ping pong balls at the other team’s cups.


I don't recall playing for an entire term. There would at least be breaks at Christmas and in February.




I must be missing something....
By pow1983 on 7/11/2008 9:44:33 AM , Rating: 2
I thought it was only illegal to "buy" an alcoholic drink below the age of 18. To "consume" an alcoholic drink you must be over the age of 5 and children under 5 must not be given alcohol unless under medical supervision or in an emergency (Children and Young Persons Act 1933).

Based on that I cant see what all the fuss is about.




....You're the...parents?
By RedAlice on 7/11/2008 10:26:35 AM , Rating: 2
Ok. Forget the concept of the game for now. What struck me was:

quote:
The game squeaked by with an ESRB Teen rating, which is where the controversy began. "T" rated games can be sold to minors as young as 13. Enraged parents feared that their teenagers would buy this game and it would fuel underage drinking.


"However do I keep little Billy or Janey from buying this game!!!???? Woe is me".

YOU'RE THE PARENTS! Keep track of your minors. Clearly if they're 13-15 they don't have a drivers license (in most states) and you have to drive them to the stores or allow them to walk to the mall without you and your supervision.
You make the rules. Tell them "NO, Honey, you can't buy this game for I fear it will fuel your future alcohol addiction."

Supervision? Anyone? If these parents are too busy to supervise their kids and treat them like "adults" and expect them to be "responsible" and make their own decisions, then you're going to have to live with what their decisions are.

Parents(some) need to grow up and be parents, instead of worrying and placing blame and responsibility on everybody else.

You don't have to give your kids allowances.
You don't have to let them get jobs.
You don't have to let them go shopping by themselves.
YOU HAVE A SAY IN WHAT THEY BUY WHEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND!
YOU'RE A PARENT! STAND UP AND BE AN ACTIVE PART OF YOUR CHILDS LIFE!
SAY NO TO WII BEER PONG (if you want)!

Ok. And now onto the game content. I remember when I was a kid I could buy CANDY CIGARETTES.
And comparing games that kids play (regardless of the rating, I'm sure) like GTA...beer pong seems like childs play.




How stereotypical...
By Regs on 7/11/2008 10:43:34 AM , Rating: 2
College alcohol abuse? Ok, maybe the drunken parents should get off their high horse like they are any more responsible. I never played that stuff in College. Why? Because it was stupid and it was a personal choice. It doesn't fuel a thing, however it does gather the dumb kids who don't want to graduate on time around in one place.




....You're the...parents?
By RedAlice on 7/11/2008 10:45:01 AM , Rating: 2
Ok. Forget the concept of the game for now. What struck me was:

quote:
The game squeaked by with an ESRB Teen rating, which is where the controversy began. "T" rated games can be sold to minors as young as 13. Enraged parents feared that their teenagers would buy this game and it would fuel underage drinking.


"However do I keep little Billy or Janey from buying this game!!!???? Woe is me".

YOU'RE THE PARENTS! Keep track of your minors. Clearly if they're 13-15 they don't have a drivers license (in most states) and you have to drive them to the stores or allow them to walk to the mall without you and your supervision.
You make the rules. Tell them "NO, Honey, you can't buy this game for I fear it will fuel your future alcohol addiction."

Supervision? Anyone? If these parents are too busy to supervise their kids and treat them like "adults" and expect them to be "responsible" and make their own decisions, then you're going to have to live with what their decisions are.

Parents(some) need to grow up and be parents, instead of worrying and placing blame and responsibility on everybody else.

You don't have to give your kids allowances.
You don't have to let them get jobs.
You don't have to let them go shopping by themselves.
YOU HAVE A SAY IN WHAT THEY BUY WHEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND!
YOU'RE A PARENT! STAND UP AND BE AN ACTIVE PART OF YOUR CHILDS LIFE!
SAY NO TO WII BEER PONG (if you want)!

Ok. And now onto the game content. I remember when I was a kid I could buy CANDY CIGARETTES.
And comparing games that kids play (regardless of the rating, I'm sure) like GTA...beer pong seems like childs play.




By shortylickens on 8/3/2008 8:29:01 PM , Rating: 2
While I agree that underage drinking is a problem, I do not believe that a video game will offer any more incentive for kids to do something they already want to do.

If parents are really unable to stop their kids from drinking, this game wont make any difference.
If parents ARE able to stop their kids from drinking: Same thing, no difference either way on what the kids will actually be able to do.




Umm...
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Umm...
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 7/10/2008 12:08:43 PM , Rating: 4
I don't think the comment was meant to be taken seriously...


RE: Umm...
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Umm...
By gyranthir on 7/10/2008 12:29:23 PM , Rating: 4
Also, Mario Party is very conducive to drinking games.


RE: Umm...
By nekobawt on 7/10/2008 4:45:41 PM , Rating: 2
I can see it now--land on a red spot, take a sip. Land on a Bowser spot, chug your drink.


RE: Umm...
By B3an on 7/10/2008 12:43:04 PM , Rating: 2
It was clearly not serious.. you know... a joke.

And in reply to your other post: "that little paper future telling device game for girls" is called a "Futune teller".

Nearly everytime you post on here you emabarass youself...


RE: Umm...
By FITCamaro on 7/10/2008 3:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nearly everytime you post on here you emabarass youself...


Coming from a guy who can't spell "Fortune" or "embarrass".

And man I feel really stupid that I don't remember what a kids game is called.


RE: Umm...
By gyranthir on 7/10/2008 12:28:06 PM , Rating: 2
They should rename the game,

Competitive Bozo Show Grand Prize Game!!

Because that's what I see every time I see someone playing beer pong.


RE: Umm...
By DM0407 on 7/10/2008 12:43:43 PM , Rating: 2
Shouldn't we be happy that this is more sanitary then regular beer pong? At least in the game people don't have to drink beer that a dirty ass ping pong ball was just in.


RE: Umm...
By gyranthir on 7/10/2008 1:13:17 PM , Rating: 3
While this may be uncommon or something but we rinse our balls before every toss.


RE: Umm...
By DM0407 on 7/10/2008 2:23:55 PM , Rating: 3
Still someone else is touching the balls prior to them entering your drink.

I personally don't wash my hands after using the bathroom unless I pee directly on them, which happens time to time(saving the environment one piss at a time, don't judge!) How many drunk people remember to wash there hands when they can barley remember who's team they're on?

If you ask me, that's a lot of indirect shlong to beer contact that I would prefer to avoid.


RE: Umm...
By Clauzii on 7/10/2008 5:59:04 PM , Rating: 2
It's actually more important to wash hands BEFORE. That thing down there should always stay clean. But also washing them after is ok too of course ;)


RE: Umm...
By Icelight on 7/11/2008 11:14:53 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Still someone else is touching the balls prior to them entering your drink.


It's only an issue if the balls touch.


RE: Umm...
By stryfe on 7/10/2008 2:36:03 PM , Rating: 2
Do you get your buddies to help you with yours?


RE: Umm...
By jhb116 on 7/10/2008 2:54:38 PM , Rating: 1
So how about a new Wii boxing game where we can beat the crap out of Jack Thompson - would that violate any rules? It certainly could be fun. :)


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