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The creators of Wii Beer Pong and founders of JV Games, Jag Jaeger, left, and Vince Valenti pose here at their Las Vegas office. They insist their intention was just to make a clean, fun sports game for people of all ages, unrelated to alcohol  (Source: Las Vegas Sun)

A Screenshot of the new game shows the game to have many of the features of real life college beer pong -- cups, scantily clad 20-somethings, and poor coordination.  (Source: JV Games)

Real life game of beer pong, as illustrated on Wikipedia. Beer pong for decades has been a staple of college life, particularly among fraternities.  (Source: Wikipedia)
Where's Jack Thompson when you need him

Somewhere in the dark recesses of disbarment, Jack Thompson's blood must be boiling.  And he's not the only one.  Video game censorship advocates nationwide have caught onto, what they class as a "disturbing" new video game for the world's most popular next generation video game system, the Nintendo Wii.

Certainly, the system has developed a reputation as appealing to all ages -- be they young or old -- but is known to be especially warmly received by the youngsters (and their parents).

That same Wii is now home to a curious new title that takes advantage of the Wii's motion sensing controls to offer up a time-honored competitive tradition that you won't be seeing in a Wii Sports pack anytime soon -- beer pong. 

Beer pong, also known as beirut, lob pong, or many other names is a wildly popular college drinking game.  It involves making a triangle of filled beer cups on each side of the table.  Each team then takes terms bouncing ping pong balls at the other team’s cups.  If the ball goes in, the other team has to chug the cup of beer.  The winning team is the first to eliminate the others cups.  The losing team has to chug the winners' remaining cups.

Wikipedia describes the necessary assets of a successful beer ponger as having a knack for aiming, taunting, and sexual gestures.

Among its fans it is just like any other team sport, supporting comradery, fun, and perhaps a bit of friendly competition.  To its detractors it has fueled college alcohol abuse.  The AP has run pieces citing beer pong as a factor in several alcohol related deaths.

This month, a new game entitled "Frat Party Games: Beer Pong" made by indie developer JV Games is scheduled to be released for the Wii.  The game squeaked by with an ESRB Teen rating, which is where the controversy began.  "T" rated games can be sold to minors as young as 13.  Enraged parents feared that their teenagers would buy this game and it would fuel underage drinking.

Carrie Haugan, mother of two, is among these critics.  She states, "We don't need to teach kids to drink, you know, get ready for drinking games. They'll start drinking earlier maybe."

The ESRB board disagrees.  There is no alcohol in cups in the game, just a simple dexterity game fueled by throwing skills.  They say the game had no connection to promoting drinking.

Faced with wild criticism, Nintendo stepped in and had some choice words with JV Games.  The developers have now agreed to change the name to "Pong Toss" from "Beer Pong".  Vince Valenti, cofounder of JV Games references this riff stating, "We had a little discussion with Nintendo and there were some angry parties."

The developers insist that the spirit is to simply recreate the game without focusing on the alcohol.  The other cofounder Jag Jaeger states, "Well, we didn’t want to make it an exactly lifelike game.  We made it simpler, so anyone could play, from an 8-year-old to an 80-year-old."

Some are not convinced by the new title or the developer's insistence that their intentions are pure.  Unsurprisingly, Carrie Haugan is among these harden critics.  She states, "Well, they know it's a drinking game. It'll encourage drinking."

Typically, it’s violence in video games that gets them a perhaps unjustly bad rap.  Recently, two teenagers killed the younger sister of one of the teens allegedly simulating moves from the game mortal combat.  Video game critics have long tried to link violence and video games, though some studies have shown that violent video games actually have no effect on real life violent tendencies and have numerous beneficial effects

Now video game critics have found a new whipping boy -- Wii Party Games: Pong Toss and its alleged promotion of underage drinking.



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Pretty sad...
By TheNuts on 7/10/2008 12:46:02 PM , Rating: 5
I am 35 yrs old and have a 14yr old daughter. I have been having an annual summer party for the past 14 years. The party usually draws around 80-90 people of which are adults and kids.

One of the traditions is beer pong. My friends and I play for quite awhile. On breaks, my daughter and her friends fill their cups with Kool-Aid and play against each other. I have brought my daughter up to the best of my ability and have taught her decent morals. She is in 9th grade now and has made the honor roll every year she has been in school. She is very involved in sports as well as the community. And best of all, has common sense.

Like I said, I let her and her friends play "Kool-aid" pong in between our beer pong breaks (with different cups, obviously). To see how she has been around "real" beer pong for many, many years and has turned out to be a pretty darn good kid and to have people freak out that a stupid game emulates "real" like, is just obsurd.

I am sure there are many, many other kids out there with a sense of decency to understand what is right and wrong. I believe it is all about the parenting as I have shown by raising my daughter. Unfortuanetly, there are bad parents out there who don't give a rats ass about the way they bring up their children and make it bad for the "good" ones who have some common sense




RE: Pretty sad...
By FingerMeElmo87 on 7/10/2008 1:48:05 PM , Rating: 3
PREACH BROTHA NUTS!!!!!


RE: Pretty sad...
By Jimbo1234 on 7/10/2008 2:00:11 PM , Rating: 5
Just wait until she's in college. The Kool-Aid will quicky be replaced with Vodka. Been there done that. Those 4.0 honor role girls are the biggest drinkers out there. At least at UW-Madison they were.


RE: Pretty sad...
By FITCamaro on 7/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: Pretty sad...
By bobcpg on 7/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: Pretty sad...
By shaw on 7/10/2008 5:54:54 PM , Rating: 3
In this day of age it isn't the beer that makes your GPA drop in college, it's too much World of Warcraft.


RE: Pretty sad...
By comc49 on 7/10/2008 6:45:36 PM , Rating: 2
yah, my sat prep teacher used to go to cal tech and she said many students drop out because of WOW. i was like wtf then how did they get in cal tech if they play WOW??


RE: Pretty sad...
By Complex Pants on 7/13/2008 1:01:41 AM , Rating: 4
As a Caltech grad (2005) I can say that before WoW, there was DaOC and Counter Strike, and yes people did flunk out because of it. You have to understand that the people at Caltech got in because for the most part high school was very easy and the SAT's were a joke. During high school they had a lot of free time to play games and such. When Caltech starts piling on the Quantum Mechanics (required for all undergrads) and you have to ditch your games for work, some old habits die hard.

At Caltech, drugs and alcohol rarely cause you to fail out. It is commonly video games and just not caring about doing your homework. Also remember we get a fair number of 13 year olds.


RE: Pretty sad...
By wrekd on 7/10/2008 7:38:46 PM , Rating: 2
All they need to do is release a field sobriety test for the Wii Fit board. Then they'll know when they've had too much to drink...er something.


RE: Pretty sad...
By TheNuts on 7/11/2008 2:02:22 PM , Rating: 2
That's not the point here. They are talking about the promotion of underage drinking here. When my daughter is in college, I can only hope any pray that I have instilled enough common sense and morals for her to do the "right" thing. I am not naive enough to believe that she is a perfect daughter that can do no wrong. Hell, I was kicked out of college because of my bad grades due to partying every night.

The point being, I feel, children sbeing brought up by good parenting have a better chance in society and have the knowledge to make smart choices and not play a stupid video game and want to run out and get wasted emulating the game


RE: Pretty sad...
By pomaikai on 7/10/2008 2:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with the name change or an adult rating. Nintendo took the right steps and made them change the name. There is nothing wrong with the game itself, but a game named "Beer Pong" should not be sold to kids. Like you said the kids at your party are playing "kool-aid" pong not beer pong.

About the parenting part. Once a year party like that is fine. The problems are the parents who are always drinking and partying. The kids see that as normal everyday life and will start drinking and partying the first chance they get.


RE: Pretty sad...
By Clauzii on 7/10/2008 6:01:33 PM , Rating: 2
"The problems are the parents who are always drinking and partying."

So true..


RE: Pretty sad...
By rdeegvainl on 7/11/2008 8:33:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
There is nothing wrong with the game itself

quote:
but a game named "Beer Pong" should not be sold to kids.


/Facepalm
So what, the word beer makes it now not suitable for kids. So we shouldn't sell root beer to kids? There is nothing wrong with root beer itself. It's the name and not the content right?


RE: Pretty sad...
By 67STANG on 7/10/2008 2:27:31 PM , Rating: 5
Wait a minute, I thought only people who buy Apple products drink Kool-aid....


RE: Pretty sad...
By winterspan on 7/10/2008 6:35:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, My friends and I were playing "real" beer pong when we were 14, and drank on the weekends throughout highschool. Of course, my parents didn't really know :). Anyways, I ended up with a 3.8 GPA and got into a first-rate university.

In highschool, my friends and I didn't drink and drive, and despite lots of alcohol being consumed and a lot of juvenile behavior, we were responsible and looked out for each other and no one was ever killed or badly injured as a result of alcohol.

Now of course there were (are) many kids, even in their senior year of highschool who were not mature enough to handle drinking alcohol. But I don't believe "underage drinking" itself is the problem, it's all about individual responsibility and maturity.

Instead of ignoring the issue and pretending their children are going to always be playing board games on the weekend, Parents should address the issue of alcohol and underage drinking in a responsible, open manner. I'm not condoning every parent allow their children to drink alcohol, I'm saying they need to be realistic about the issue considering many kids are going to drink no matter what and they need to teach their kids about responsibility and safety, particularly regarding the dangers of drinking and driving, alcohol poisoning, drugs, etc.

I saw firsthand how ignorance and denial on the part of parents could create bad situations, where some kids would go to parties and drive home when they'd been drinking because the parents wouldn't allow the kids to stay overnight at other's homes in the frivolous attempt to keep their kids "out of trouble". Apparently, they though their kids would be "safer" or less likely to get into trouble if they had to always come home at night. Well, all that did was make them drive home AFTER they had been drinking! Instead, they could have stayed over at the friends house and been much safer than trying to "sober up" to drive home!

I don't have all the answers, I'm just sharing...


RE: Pretty sad...
By flydian on 7/10/2008 7:26:47 PM , Rating: 5
"Now of course there were (are) many kids, even in their senior year of highschool who were not mature enough to handle drinking alcohol. But I don't believe "underage drinking" itself is the problem, it's all about individual responsibility and maturity."

Agreed! I was one of those immature ones (though I didn't know it at the time, of course). I made some stupid choices that had an adverse effect on my life for quite a while. Yet I don't blame Beer Pong, or frat parties, or Halloween 1987 at UCSB (WOOO!), or even alcohol in general. I actually blame MYSELF for making those choices!

OMFG! Personal responsibility? Here? Now? Unpossible!


RE: Pretty sad...
By nunya on 7/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Pretty sad...
By Chris Simmo on 7/11/2008 3:17:20 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, from what I have noticed is the protective parents that blame everything but themselves have rotten kids, and the kids turn out to be pricks, often thinking they are better then everyone else! You go crook at the kids when they do something wrong. If its always someone or something else fault, then you can't be a particularly good parent, and in the process of complaining, ruin it for everyone else