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"So that's a 'No' on a cut of the iPod hardware sales? Well, I had to ask."  (Source: NBC)
New allegations emerge which indicate more possible causes for the NBC and Apple split.

The story of NBC and iTunes' breakup is well known to DailyTech regulars.  Back in August DailyTech first reported the split.  It then went on to cover Apple's decision to prematurely drop its contract with NBC, which would have last until year's end. 
The coverage included a blast at NBC in which Apple alleged that the split resulted from NBC's greed $4.99 per episode pricing demands.  NBC fired back, finding a new home at Amazon's new Unbox download service.

NBC previously stated that it wanted to be able to offer free pilot episodes, control the packaging of content and have more flexibility in pricing.  It also wanted additional protection from piracy.  It stated that Apple was unwilling to work with it on these issues.

Now new allegations have emerged, which may provide shocking testimony to NBC's audacity, if they are true.

NBC President Jeff Zucker, according to a report in Variety, allegedly shared with The New Yorker's Ken Auletta during a benefit for former football powerhouse Syracuse University that NBC had wanted a cut of every iPod Apple sold as part of NBC's negotiations to renew their contract. 

Zucker is quoted as saying, "Apple sold millions of dollars worth of hardware off the back of our content and made a lot of money.  They did not want to share in what they were making off the hardware or allow us to adjust pricing."

This revelation is being met with incredulity in the media industry.  After all, NBC was not alone in most of its complaints against Apple -- for example, iTunes’ fixed price of $1.99 per episode.  However, no other television network would dare make as audacious a demand as a cut of hardware revenues.

More surprising is how little money NBC was really making for Apple and itself.  In the first year of its contract Zucker is quoted as placing its iTunes revenue $15 million USD.  In comparison to the $16 billion USD in revenue that NBC Universal, this is only 0.3 percent of the company's total revenue.

It was noted that NBC Universal's theme park business did $100 million USD in revenue. On the other hand, this does mean that iTunes sold approximately 7.5 million NBC TV episodes.

It seems relatively obvious that such demands were the realm of fantasy.  Otherwise every television maker from Sony to LG would have to pay a slice to NBC, Fox and the other studios.  The “iDevices” would have to pay cuts to Fox, ABC and many more.  This is obviously an untenable business model, considering the drive for low cost expensive hardware that often is only slightly profitable at best.

Other networks such as FOX and ABC have not dared make such demands.

NBC has a chance to prove itself on its own with the new HULA service it is starting with FOX (coverage later today at DailyTech), its deal with Amazon Unbox and its NBC Direct service, reported about at DailyTech earlier this month.

However, until NBC shows a far larger business volume, its demands may appear undeniably like gold-digging of a hardware giant.



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Chuck
By Spivonious on 10/31/2007 9:14:16 AM , Rating: 2
I love this show. The writers really nailed the whole working in a big box store thing.




RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: Chuck
By h0kiez on 10/31/2007 9:47:51 AM , Rating: 2
Relax dude...it's a sitcom.

Plus, the co-star is hot. I'm in just for that. Can't we get some pics of her on this page?


RE: Chuck
By therealnickdanger on 10/31/2007 10:01:43 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah... Jason must think it too cliche to post a pic of her have us all obsess over it.

In yer face, Jas!
http://www.modelvolume.com/yvonne_strzechowski/yvo...


RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 10:34:56 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not so sure one hour shows can be classified as sitcoms. I think you have to have a completely pointless half hour show for that.

The show was meh even ignoring the constant mac and iphone cameos. The hard drive thing was really just a last straw in pulling the plug on watching a boring show. As for the co star, she's just another tube shaped fashion model type with hips like a 12 year old boy. So meh again.


RE: Chuck
By Spivonious on 10/31/2007 1:54:50 PM , Rating: 2
What does length have to do with the genre of show? Sitcom means Situation Comedy, which Chuck definitely is, with a hint of action show thrown in for kicks. If Heroes (speaking of boring shows) was only 30 minutes would it no longer be a drama?

Product placement is everywhere, it's time you just accept it and move on. Even Terminator back in 1985 or whatever had a very long shot on Reese's Nike shoes. I agree that the co-star isn't that attractive.


RE: Chuck
By 16nm on 10/31/2007 2:47:30 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I agree that the co-star isn't that attractive.

Yeah, she's a real dog-girl
http://www.edu.lahti.fi/~meheinon/MIKÄ%20TÄÄ%20O.j...


RE: Chuck
By V2K on 10/31/2007 10:00:04 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I hate the fact that they always get it wrong when people have a top secret computer database uploaded to their brain. They way they do it in Chuck is very unrealistic.

And the NSA never allows undercover operatives to sell hot dogs dressed in hot novelty outfits!


RE: Chuck
By MPE on 10/31/2007 11:47:54 AM , Rating: 2
That is one dumb reason.

You actually care enough about how people refer to a computer - especially a fictional character you have no dealing with in real life?

Things like that don't get you girlfriends outside of The Sims.


RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 1:10:54 PM , Rating: 1
Being irked because people call something by the wrong name and refuse to be corrected is what is called a pet peeve.

If you are going to expect me to watch your show, movie etc, you better make it authentic or I am not interested.

Furthermore insulting me over it is something that just proves your place as an internet forum bully that needs negative attention to survive.


RE: Chuck
By Spivonious on 10/31/2007 1:56:08 PM , Rating: 1
It's a TV show. Stop taking it so seriously. You sound like you didn't/don't have enough friends as a child.


RE: Chuck
By adam92682 on 10/31/2007 12:06:19 PM , Rating: 3
I thing they got the part right then because in store technicians are incompetent.


RE: Chuck
By borismkv on 10/31/2007 12:39:10 PM , Rating: 1
You actually correct the way people whose computers you are fixing talk? Wow...they must hate your guts. Being able to handle users with respect and patience is a major part of being a competent technician. Guess you haven't quite nailed that one yourself.


RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 1:15:28 PM , Rating: 1
Referring to things by the wrong name to make people feel smart when they are in fact stupid, is not in my job description. Maybe you feel it is in yours, thats great for you. I feel no need to baby people about their lack of knowledge.

If someone gets their nose out of joint about being told what the correct term for something is, too bad for them. Thankfully I do not work at dell, so I have no need to be an obsequious boot licker to try and get business. That is the sales reps job.


RE: Chuck
By borismkv on 10/31/2007 1:43:47 PM , Rating: 1
I assume you're one of those techs that works in a back room in a computer shop where no customers ever go? It may be a salesman's job to *get* customers, but it is a technician's job to *keep* customers. Making people feel small and idiotic (by correcting them on such simplistic and inane things as jargon) is just plane rude. If someone refers to something incorrectly, just ignore it. But I guess I should be grateful that you're a complete SOB to users. I mean, it's people like you that help me get all the customers I want, since I actually know how to deal with people as well as computers.


RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 1:53:23 PM , Rating: 2
Theres a difference between saying "hey moron it's not a hard drive, my god you are stupid." than saying "actualy hard drive refers to the physical storage inside your computer are you maybe referring to the tower?"

Would you honestly be so out of joint over that that you are going to think I am the antichrist? If so I would say you are maybe just a wee bit sensitive.

Correcting mistakes does not automatically imply doing so in a rude manner.


RE: Chuck
By Spivonious on 10/31/2007 1:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
The customer already feels stupid because they can't fix it themselves. No matter how nice you are about it they will still come away from you feeling even more stupid because the holier-than-thou computer tech corrected them.


RE: Chuck
By Oregonian2 on 10/31/2007 2:07:09 PM , Rating: 3
Or maybe smarter because they've learned something?


RE: Chuck
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 2:22:15 PM , Rating: 1
That is exactly the point. Theres no reason the customer can't learn something by taking their computer in. Much in the way of giving them advice on how to avoid problems in the future so they won't have to bring it back in.

Furthermore it often times is neccesary to correct them in the process of clarifying the problem. "Theres something wrong with my hard drive." Just doesn't cut it, eventualy you are going to have to ask them if they are refering to the actual hard drive or some other general problem and to be specific about what it is.

I would love for every customer that gets dealt with to come away smarter and knowing more about their computer. If it means I don't have to clean vundo off it every two months because they learned to avoid it for example that's a good thing.

I can imagine if I went to a mechanic and told him there's something funny with my engine when my brakes were squeaking I would be getting corrected somewhere along the line. It is just the wall of ignorance comes up when dealing with a computer and a total air of wanting to be babied.


RE: Chuck